tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post1057776310079688790..comments2024-02-29T20:49:12.171+10:00Comments on JungleWatch: THE ILLEGITIMATE REMOVAL OF FR. PAUL GOFIGAN - PART VII: THE EVIDENCEFrenchiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05189311368021711422noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-59240099214356017122014-05-14T21:57:30.828+10:002014-05-14T21:57:30.828+10:00Amon 4.18am. Know what your talking about and thro...Amon 4.18am. Know what your talking about and through the comments think I know who you are. It's been over twenty years of silence we all chose to leave and live with the pains. But the past years have been thinking is it not time to come clean and heal the wounds we all live with. Junglewatch has made me re re evaluate the past on Guam and confront those in the correct way those who need confronting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-6795846620343603772014-05-14T10:42:20.495+10:002014-05-14T10:42:20.495+10:005-14, 8:26AM - What if ..., and what if... and wha...5-14, 8:26AM - What if ..., and what if... and what ifs... Do you know any one (besides Fr. Gofigan) who was penalized and removed based on "what if's"? <br /><br />Such flimsy cover-up advice from the kiko's to the Archbishop! In their haste to commit a crime they forgot to think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-53940171371930486862014-05-14T10:24:45.127+10:002014-05-14T10:24:45.127+10:00Yes, how truly sad is the message that comes acros...Yes, how truly sad is the message that comes across from an un-compassionate “Shepherd of the Catholic Congregation” on Guam. How un-christian is the message too, that comes from his ignoring The Scriptural message of Jesus to "leave the 99 and look for the one lost sheep”– the sheep in this case is one who, in fact, sought repentance and came back to the fold, wanting and working hard to remain in the fold! <br /><br />The irony is, Fr. Gofigan welcomed and spiritually cared for this lost sheep; yet was castigated, penalized, humiliated and illegally removed? Well, if this shepherd has no compassion for a non-neo lost sheep from his congregation, why would he be any more compassionate for a non-neo Priest under his paternal care? Why? “Non-neo” is Key!<br /><br />Yes, Father Gofigan’s removal is another sad message for other compassionate, but non-neo, Priests under this Archbishop AND under the kikos who, so obviously have this shepherd wrapped around their fingers.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-5470281875916081372014-05-14T09:09:09.971+10:002014-05-14T09:09:09.971+10:00I am so glad you asked. But the Archbishop won'...I am so glad you asked. But the Archbishop won't be. Look for an upcoming post to answer your question. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-67349434519968369622014-05-14T09:08:33.164+10:002014-05-14T09:08:33.164+10:00What a wonderful Gospel inspired reply. I guess th...What a wonderful Gospel inspired reply. I guess the church should ban all sinners. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-13513713988571902852014-05-14T09:07:21.866+10:002014-05-14T09:07:21.866+10:00I guess we need to get rid of St. Paul, who in 1 C...I guess we need to get rid of St. Paul, who in 1 Cor 4:15 said: f"or in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel."Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-11965997209372241602014-05-14T08:29:47.369+10:002014-05-14T08:29:47.369+10:00Well, is this the main issue here that the Archbis...Well, is this the main issue here that the Archbishop is "not your father"? Is this truly bothering you? Take courage. There is only one Father in heaven and He always will be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-48070946406292571622014-05-14T08:26:21.883+10:002014-05-14T08:26:21.883+10:00What if this person felt tremendous temptation alr...What if this person felt tremendous temptation already to fall back into his sin? What if it was only a matter of time for him to act on the temptation? How can you you know what is in the heart of people on the national registry of offenders? Only God knows the hearts of people. Has anyone prayed for this person's soul?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-13880070525072080422014-05-14T08:21:19.810+10:002014-05-14T08:21:19.810+10:00Is there any evidence that "they had been mon...Is there any evidence that "they had been monitoring Fr. Paul for two years"? Why do you say this? Who claimed this and where? Even if the person was harmless, his name appeared in the national registry. This cannot be denied. Do you deny it? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-42824682660831478782014-05-14T04:18:01.965+10:002014-05-14T04:18:01.965+10:00Would like to know why in 1990 when archbishop Apu...Would like to know why in 1990 when archbishop Apuron was informed about (name redacted) he chose to do nothing for years when there was a serious issue. Yet with fr Paul there is no issue at all for children's safety yet he removes him. Those who reported (name redacted) to the archbishop are still here today re thinking the past history of the archbishop in the light of what is happening today. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-48462292515994019112014-05-14T01:13:58.571+10:002014-05-14T01:13:58.571+10:00You don't understand. I have a copy of Fr. Dac...You don't understand. I have a copy of Fr. Dacanay's appeal. BTW 8 of 10 bishops also used to move child molesting priests from parish to parish. So we now know.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-24275772771888774022014-05-13T23:26:06.191+10:002014-05-13T23:26:06.191+10:00What is really sad is the message this sent to th...What is really sad is the message this sent to the lay people of Guam...How unchristian is this message.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-75697526726603540182014-05-13T23:18:31.997+10:002014-05-13T23:18:31.997+10:00Tim, you don't seem to understand that the Arc...Tim, you don't seem to understand that the Archbishop was truly convinced that his instruction was NOT followed. He truly believed that there was a DANGER lingering around the parish because of non-compliance. He could have been charged for example, as he PERCEIVED, for gross negligence by parents if the situation would have continued that way. Don't you think it was a very natural reflex to make protection against those possible charges? So he acted. <br />Perhaps he made a rush judgment, but it is hard to argue that he did not do this because of the reason he stated. He may have obtained inaccurate information first, but he had to ACT based on the information he had, anyway. How else could anyone make an informed decision? <br />So it might be a misguided strategy to vilify the Archbishop more. He has ample room to PROTECT his action at any forum. It could be more fruitful to admit that the APPEARANCE of things worked against Fr. Paul and it is not only the Archbishop who would have made that decision. Perhaps 8 out of 10 bishops in office would have done the same thing. Is this not a rational assumption?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-5378289160104106442014-05-13T23:17:03.533+10:002014-05-13T23:17:03.533+10:00This man was merely a convenient scapegoat for the...This man was merely a convenient scapegoat for the archbishop to use so that he can remove Father Paul. I believe Mr. Rohr will expound on this next. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-32726666891907554972014-05-13T23:14:37.874+10:002014-05-13T23:14:37.874+10:00The archbishop had many opportunities to find a &q...The archbishop had many opportunities to find a "golden middle". As the "father" of Fr. Paul, he should have counseled Fr. Paul paternally. He had two years to do it, and even after the July 16th debacle, he could still have call Father Paul in to find that 'golden middle". Do you know that to this day, since that July 16th fiasco, the archbishop has never spoken to Fr. Paul. Would you as a Father do this to your child? The archbishop is no Father; he is a MONSTER. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-21315306159721979052014-05-13T21:47:34.021+10:002014-05-13T21:47:34.021+10:00How Terrible is this...YES, what he did to Father ...How Terrible is this...YES, what he did to Father Paul killed him slowly, but he gets up and tries to survive because that is just the kind of person Father Paul is...A SURVIVOR! It runs in the family and noone can get us down, because our parents taught us right...To Respect others, be COMPASSIONATE, TO CARE, LOVE, and always be CHRISTLIKE! Thank you mom and dad!Eileen Gofigannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-52078058415542564022014-05-13T18:45:06.881+10:002014-05-13T18:45:06.881+10:00It’s a well-known and recognized fact that the arr...It’s a well-known and recognized fact that the arrival and establishment of the ncw movement created a division within our Catholic Church on Guam.<br /> <br />As an individual and Priest, Fr. Gofigan is well-loved and well-liked, just as he was an effective Pastor and Administrator of his Parish. Those things about Fr. Gofigan ARE NOT however, the ONLY reasons that upon Fr. Gofigan’s removal, the existing division became much deeper and even much wider. Many more members of our congregation were angered because they intuitively understood and observed that the basis for Fr. Gofigan’s removal is linked to the kikos and their ambitions for an eventual kiko empire on Guam and because of their hold on the non-resistant Archbishop.<br /> <br />If after reading all the facts and documentation here about this evil scandal -- created by the kikos, using THE CATHOLIC FAITH as their instrument, with the willing participation of the Archbishop and Catholic Church hierarchy on our island as their pawns – after all that, and our Catholic Congregation on Guam just continues to remain silent; keeping heads buried deep down in the sand; ignoring this obvious evil scandal; then, God help us thru this next and up–coming “El Nino” and Typhoon Season!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-74417214638715910522014-05-13T18:16:08.005+10:002014-05-13T18:16:08.005+10:00Ah, yes. And that is what we are coming to: THE PR...Ah, yes. And that is what we are coming to: THE PROBLEM. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-11544363971652227252014-05-13T18:15:18.795+10:002014-05-13T18:15:18.795+10:00The "golden middle" is the way of Canon ...The "golden middle" is the way of Canon Law which is weighted towards the protection of bishops so these things don't happen. The archbishop did not just "skip some steps", he acted with complete disregard for the law, and the brutality of the ouster (locking Fr. Paul out of his office, ordering him to vacate the rectory, stripping him of his priestly faculties, telling him to go find another bishop...) really? Really? "Belligerence from the Archbishop's side is hard to prove? REally????Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-75447180915874934372014-05-13T17:56:36.320+10:002014-05-13T17:56:36.320+10:00The thing that puzzles me is that this man did go ...The thing that puzzles me is that this man did go to the proper channel and he had a police clearance! So what is the problem?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-11071320079163495382014-05-13T17:51:46.861+10:002014-05-13T17:51:46.861+10:00I guess our archbishop does not practice what he p...I guess our archbishop does not practice what he preaches! Tragic! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-67737595300353169822014-05-13T17:50:45.577+10:002014-05-13T17:50:45.577+10:00Even if the Archbishop skipped some steps in the p...Even if the Archbishop skipped some steps in the process, it is hard to argue that he was not led by genuine concern for the well being of the parish, especially the young and the vulnerable. You may say the person was not a menace to anyone, but it is a fact that he is included in a national registry. <br /><br />Therefore, on the one hand, belligerence from the Archbishop's side is hard to prove. On the other hand, the good intentions of Fr Paul is also hard to deny. This is a situation when any decision maker faces great challenge to make justice. Who will be the one who finds the golden middle? Is a mutually acceptable deal, perhaps, still attainable?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-83596758510676565892014-05-13T17:50:10.261+10:002014-05-13T17:50:10.261+10:00What is "much more going on" is that whe...What is "much more going on" is that when man shuts the door on Truth and Justice, God opens a window! God is good. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-43515600266501472872014-05-13T17:44:53.507+10:002014-05-13T17:44:53.507+10:00What is more telling is the lack of specific evide...What is more telling is the lack of specific evidence on the "grave harm" caused by the "employment" of this man. As any good canon lawyer would do, and the archbishop's Vicar General is a canon lawyer, you need to specific facts to back up your charge, especially one as serious as exposing the youth to "grave harm" resulting in your removal as pastor. Did they? Nada. They had been monitoring Fr. Paul for two years.....that is 24 months or 730 days! Was there a complaint filed by anyone against this man during this period? Was there an incident involving this man during this period? Did the school nearby file a complaint? Did the archbishop proffer any fact that will substantiate or corroborate this very serious charge of "grave harm"? NADA. He didn't list any in his letter to Fr. Paul because......drum roll please......there wasn't any. May our Lord and Savior continue to give Fr. Paul hope and courage, and may our Lord and Savior be merciful on the souls of our archbishop, vicar general, and chancellor. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-5883474074538328972014-05-13T17:35:01.806+10:002014-05-13T17:35:01.806+10:00Of course it was never an error. The archbishop an...Of course it was never an error. The archbishop and the Vicar General believed they could act without regard for the law. They did not expect Fr. Paul...or anyone ever to fight back. And they certainly did not expect JungleWatch. The fact that both Fr. Paul fought back and that this blog not only exists but has gained so much attention is evidence that there is much more going on behind Fr. Paul's support and the support of this blog. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.com