tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post3507245989588176974..comments2024-03-27T11:42:13.364+10:00Comments on JungleWatch: THE NEOCATECHUMENAL DISCOURSE OF FEARFrenchiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05189311368021711422noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-36349260187199658512017-12-02T01:57:59.755+10:002017-12-02T01:57:59.755+10:00Right at this moment our Parish in Miami, Florida ...Right at this moment our Parish in Miami, Florida it’s being invaded by the Kikos and the divisions that even their shadow create are already visible in our church! <br />Articles like this one give me hope that the people are going to wake up to the reality that they are being brainwashed and imprisoned in psychological prisons with no scape because all the demons of your past life of sins are guarding the doors!<br />They are being blackmailed by their own demons of the past!<br />Please, if any of you have any additional information or articles that can help us remove this cancer from our parish please send it to macarb55@yahoo.com <br />Thank-you and God Bless<br />Mario<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-49561430126858215312016-09-24T23:28:56.734+10:002016-09-24T23:28:56.734+10:00This comment has been removed by the author.LAPAZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09721649819415702288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-90920934921593378822016-09-24T23:28:00.234+10:002016-09-24T23:28:00.234+10:00This comment has been removed by the author.LAPAZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09721649819415702288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-44913047617205152902016-09-24T23:27:51.633+10:002016-09-24T23:27:51.633+10:00Oops, Baloney!Oops, Baloney!LAPAZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09721649819415702288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-33392457191874413622016-09-24T23:27:10.735+10:002016-09-24T23:27:10.735+10:00Tim, you have read my mind! I will edit to correct...Tim, you have read my mind! I will edit to correct the name.<br />Anonymous, you were right. It was a lapsus linguae: Ballin+Filoni+maybe O'Malley (great friend of Kiko too). Finally, Balloney.LAPAZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09721649819415702288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-88427241364736108932016-09-24T08:26:22.049+10:002016-09-24T08:26:22.049+10:00The more we get testimonies the more the process c...The more we get testimonies the more the process cements the fact that NCW still clings to the fallacy that any personal misfortune is a punishment of God for what a person did, either personally or as a result of inclusion in a genealogical construct. NCW belief in determinism espouses rigid adherence to its cultic laws (hence, unstinting obedience to a responsible) and non-tolerance for deviation. A member gets berated or shamed in community for what he or she has done to infuriate the gods (kiko, gennarini, etc.) and is allowed no redress for grievance. So we see that the individual is subsumed to the goals of the entire group, and is deemed a casualty easily dispensable. LaPaz is correct: there is no compassion for the individual but only as a means to a bigger end. Unfortunately gullible members are sucked into a lifetime subservience and mind control. NCW is like a drug that one knows, albeit late, is not healthy for oneself but fear getting deprived of its narcotic and hypnotic hold. It takes much bigger community support, even withdrawal into a safe place to allow rehab/ healing to take place. The island community perhaps need to establish a "safe haven" in order to shield recovering members from constant barrage of guilt assaults from "responsibles." Why the Vatican hierarchy allowed it to flourish is a no-brainer: politics and promise of wealth and position. Ambitious clerics have forgotten their fundamental charge and lured by a miter and crosier, or a place in the bureaucratic zoo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-78609577875540348472016-09-24T08:06:48.047+10:002016-09-24T08:06:48.047+10:00Would you really like to know, or are you just say...Would you really like to know, or are you just saying so? If you really want to know, I'll be happy to share with you a copy of the "manifesto" of the errors of NCW which a few of us had sent to AB Hon. Still pending to hear from AB Hon, but we are not holding our breath! (That's over a month ago!) Anyway, if you really want to know - not just saying so - indicate through this JW, and we'll be happy to share with you where Andrew got his facts - yes, facts; not fiction! To us it's not "entertaining" - it actually is frightening! It's a pretty long document, though (15 pages), so I'll to send it to you via an email attachment. Submitting comments in JW is limited by space; plus the fact that almost everybody in JW knows these facts! So, an email to you personally is better! Deal? - (jrsa: 9/24/16, 8 am)J.R.San Agustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17874835056590971951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-90810447874022955562016-09-24T06:48:12.921+10:002016-09-24T06:48:12.921+10:00I think she meant to write "Baloney" rhy...I think she meant to write "Baloney" rhymes with Filoni.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-85611984576665552262016-09-24T04:41:52.227+10:002016-09-24T04:41:52.227+10:00I still don't know where you gets your "f...I still don't know where you gets your "facts" lol but it's entertaining Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-52539818431964050182016-09-24T04:30:23.673+10:002016-09-24T04:30:23.673+10:00Excellent post. Thank you, LaPaz.
Much work has ...Excellent post. Thank you, LaPaz.<br /><br />Much work has already been done to clearly demonstrate serious problems of the NCW:<br /><br />Cult-like nature<br />Heretical teachings<br />Aberrant practices<br />Divisive tendencies<br />Suspicious finances<br /><br />These represent the "tip of the iceberg" of the NCW.<br /><br />The Catholics of Guam will continue to lead the effort to rectify the abuses in the church. Part of this effort is and will continue to be the exposing of the NCW and the harm it causes in the lives of the faithful. We pray for the poor souls caught in this web and feel helpless, as if there is no way to escape. Please know that we are here to welcome you back home to the Catholic Church.Andrew Camachonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-5681067663358983942016-09-24T03:36:37.704+10:002016-09-24T03:36:37.704+10:00At my second scrutiny, I answered as I felt like b...At my second scrutiny, I answered as I felt like but then I was definitely not a person the itinerants were interested in. The couples who used NFP were given a very hard time - again as had been at the First Scrutiny. Two individuals who literally said they didn't think God had changed them for the better (as one usually doesn't feel) were constructively excluded (I could say how) - I'm cutting the story short - no question of making their community continue to be supportive for them. The local secular press harassed my friends who were responsibles and bragged about it on the front page, the woman from the UCM and two others printed disparaging remarks about the actual members that the Bishop didn't rebuke (they presumably told him he wasn't allowed to) and some louts had disparaging remarks about the actual members printed in the Tablet. Meanwhile we were imprinted by what we saw in that room. Talk about pincer movement. Now they have nobbled both my metropolitan and my VG to undermine my current bishop. (I have never favoured the hurling of minutiae and hiding behind a bishop - creep and counter-creep - but these two times it has got blatant.) They have no conversation but to ask whether I shall attend their ceremonies. They are shells with no meaning to their words. Almost the last ceremony I was at was the ambrosia eating - mmm delicious!Austin OEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-45725367486604114902016-09-24T02:48:10.481+10:002016-09-24T02:48:10.481+10:00Please be more precise:
"Balini"?
- is...Please be more precise:<br /><br />"Balini"?<br /><br />- is that Filoni, Prefect of the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples?<br /><br />- is that Vallini, Cardinal Vicar of the Diocese of Rome?<br /><br />- is that Ballin, Bishop and Vicar Apostolic of the Apostolic Vicariate of Northern Arabia ?<br /><br />(note: all of those three are great friends of Kiko).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-74451819401862865572016-09-24T01:37:11.239+10:002016-09-24T01:37:11.239+10:00Another great post by LaPaz!
I am glad that you...Another great post by LaPaz! <br /><br />I am glad that you revealed the <i>second scrutiny</i> comparison in Pius' patsy's post ("Diana," of course). When I initially read it I did a double take. What a great display of the arrogance inherit in the NCW. <br /><br />Should we be thankful for the weakness in Apuron that it betrayed him in allowing the NCW to fester and attempt to take over our Church on Guam? The more they grew "confident" in their domination over the archdiocese, the more they exposed their extraordinarily insane methods of coercion and manipulation. It's through this arrogance that they could tout, through Pius's herald, the <i>second scrutiny</i> as a valid replacement for any credible and standard psychological testing. What hubris! Jose M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08952497464662156978noreply@blogger.com