tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post4082951812544129580..comments2024-03-27T11:42:13.364+10:00Comments on JungleWatch: HOLINESS AND THE TRADITIONFrenchiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05189311368021711422noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-73976031113622893342016-07-25T16:40:39.909+10:002016-07-25T16:40:39.909+10:00A brief addendum: Bonhoeffer's work is quite a...A brief addendum: Bonhoeffer's work is quite admirable and excellent food for thought (his Cost of Discipleship is a classic of course and worthwhile for everyone, and his Letter and his Ethics are also noteworthy). I say this because he is a notable exception, in my experience. There are others, of course, but this must be said with the near complete collapse of theology consistent with much of ANYTHING within the Protestant multiplicity of faith. Most of what I see and read today, on Guam, in journals, in lectures, and elsewhere, lacks virtually any substance. But my sources aren't complete, and I do personally know a few would-be Protestant Thomists--although how they will be able to sustain that tension is worth betting on.<br /><br />Hence, my comment on the Eucharist. Without parsing it out, such a radical self re-orientation is virtually impossible without the sacraments, in particular the Eucharist and Confession. But Bonhoeffer as solid Lutheran was certainly no Reformer and so within his own writings remains outside the vast ocean of Protestant muck.Glaucon Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12802239323211056159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-32030276571365648882016-07-25T16:38:02.667+10:002016-07-25T16:38:02.667+10:00This comment has been removed by the author.Glaucon Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12802239323211056159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-54589540859231090262016-07-23T21:32:16.938+10:002016-07-23T21:32:16.938+10:00That is true--one broad stroke is too general--but...That is true--one broad stroke is too general--but we still have to use the same Eucharist-less paint, regardless. Glaucon Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12802239323211056159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-26414914343710923432016-07-23T08:19:44.627+10:002016-07-23T08:19:44.627+10:00Thank you, Glaucon, for your contributions to our ...Thank you, Glaucon, for your contributions to our Church's healing on Guam. Your writing springs from a deep well of thoughtfulness. <br /><br />One reminder though: I would not paint all Protestants with the same broad stroke. You yourself indicate above that holiness is really a state of being when you write about it as conforming to the love of Christ. A way of living (such as attending frequent Mass) flows from this condition of being (conformity to the love of Christ). This way of being involves a radical self re-orientation, captured by the late Protestant theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer (executed by Adolf Hitler's People's Court on April 9, 1945): “When Jesus calls a man to follow him, he bids him come and die.”Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16437625683522270930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-42363672996904348152016-07-22T09:11:38.003+10:002016-07-22T09:11:38.003+10:00I do appreciate the comments, but please know that...I do appreciate the comments, but please know that what is written are the thoughts and motivations of all who write for JungleWatch, and hopefully those who read. We hope for the future, and we ask for your prayers, esp for Tim who led so well and got us so far. God love you. Glaucon Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12802239323211056159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-69922766313931137692016-07-22T07:12:57.455+10:002016-07-22T07:12:57.455+10:00How can I even explain the timing of this peace an...How can I even explain the timing of this peace and my current struggle? Your discourse has been a constant conversation amongst many who have been aware of the true crisis. Thank you for being eloquent in capturing the thoughts shared amongst many. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017031828837981810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-68039695623397362192016-07-22T06:19:35.655+10:002016-07-22T06:19:35.655+10:00Mr. Glaucon Jr, I commend your thought process and...Mr. Glaucon Jr, I commend your thought process and the way you put it in writing. Hands down, a valuable template in moving forward to revitalize our faith. You and Mr. JR San Agustin must keep on writing. God bless you.<br />Father EfrenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-30690797342179563842016-07-21T23:41:46.960+10:002016-07-21T23:41:46.960+10:00St. Paul as he addressed the Church in Corinth abo...St. Paul as he addressed the Church in Corinth about the division that exist when they come to celebrate the Lords Supper, admonished the Church recognizing that there will be factions among the believers, "For there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized." 1 Corinth 11:19. I have to admit that God also is using this division in our local church as part of the process to purify his Church, and raise awareness of how we've become complacent in our faith, become distracted with the materialistic aspects of life and is using this opportunity to lead us back on track with Him. Despite all the troubles we are seeing, It is apparent in our dialogs in this blog, There seems to be a resurgence of local church members searching and learning scripture in defense of our Catholic faith, an increased knowledge about the liturgy, a reemphasis of the real presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist, more understanding of the need to worship God reverently in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Better understanding of the sacraments and their roles in our lives. But more importantly we must endeavor to continue our efforts to search and uphold the truth, seek justice for those wronged and protect the vulnerable and innocent. God Bless..RAMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-32148439987392045182016-07-21T23:36:41.870+10:002016-07-21T23:36:41.870+10:00I cannot say (write) enough how important and spot...I cannot say (write) enough how important and spot on this post is. Definitely sharing!Jose M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08952497464662156978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-81438652189463583152016-07-21T22:29:26.215+10:002016-07-21T22:29:26.215+10:00Claucon Jr. - What a whiff of fresh air your treat...Claucon Jr. - What a whiff of fresh air your treatise has brought upon me, and I hope upon a whole lot of others too. You are so very right on a lot of things, but it takes a lot more than just meditative reading to take it all in. It takes a lot of contemplation and prayer to assimilate all you have said. I believe that God is using you as an instrument to bring about healing to a suffering Church - and that healing must come from within, not from without.<br /><br />For too long our people have been living their Faith in a less than fervent way, and perhaps He has sent us this scourge of suffering to test our Faith. Without denigration to my position, it is fairly easy to cast aspersions on the NCW as the cause of adulterating our Faith. And while that might be very true (and God knows how strongly I have been opposing it for theological, dogmatic and liturgical aberrations), ridding ourselves of the cancer of NCW may just be a preliminary condition toward REAL HEALING - and that is the healing of our souls from within. Maybe God had give us this thorn to test our inner faith in Him, not just the external adherence to our faith in and worship of Him.<br /><br />I shall continue to fight against the errors of the NCW, but now with an added overtone of improving my own life and holiness. Ridding ourselves of the cancer of the NCW must be reinforced by an internal metanoia within our own lives.<br /><br />I had to re-read your writing twice (3 times) to get its full impact. I think it is one of the best things I have ever read in JW. Some of the "remedies" you had prescribed, I too had written about earlier. I thank you for reinforcing them. If only your formula of "internal healing" is heeded and practiced by us all, maybe the pangs of suffering will be more tolerable, and deliverance will be more forthcoming. I am reminded once more of my favorite prayer: "If My people, who are called by My name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek My Face, and turn from their wicked ways - then will I hear from Heaven, and will forgive their sins, and will heal their land". (2 Chron 7:12)<br /><br />I promise not to preach again, but I just had to return your wonderful writing in kind. Oremus pro invicem. (JRSA: 7/21/16)J.R.San Agustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17874835056590971951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-73259623869353595032016-07-21T22:20:18.503+10:002016-07-21T22:20:18.503+10:00Tradition is what makes us grounded. The Tradition...Tradition is what makes us grounded. The Tradition that Glaucon Jr listed for our Catholic Church defines and reminds us of why we yurn for and would defend against the erosions that splinter organizations Such as the NCW threaten. While we are thought to be obedient, Jesus questioned the practices of Pharisees who were more form than substance in their beliefs. Some were not Holy and demanded respect rather than earning respect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-51071700858898921242016-07-21T22:17:02.059+10:002016-07-21T22:17:02.059+10:00Someone needs to be collecting these. Brilliant. Someone needs to be collecting these. Brilliant. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-3914408538563000412016-07-21T21:46:06.647+10:002016-07-21T21:46:06.647+10:00Screwtape: Oh dear, what have you done Wormwood! ...Screwtape: Oh dear, what have you done Wormwood! This iteration of Tradition is exactly what we did not want the feeble minds to discover, this new enemy is awakening all the great Saints that has caused so much souls to escape our claws.<br /><br />Wormwood: What shall we do Uncle, the West has rejected much of our Enemy’s tenets, so it seems, and their edifices are being sold off to the highest bidders. I’m sure this little settlement will be next, as you know the Spanish ones are making the clandestine move in Luther’s name and much of this island has assent to the foreign and deformed doctrines.<br /><br />Screwtape: Nevertheless Wormwood, this new enemy is causing great agony to our father below! His little chitchat of Tradition, Catechesis, Holy Bishop and Holy Priest will surely charm even the little ones. You must whisper in the ears of the Proxy devil and let him issue an edict from the very steps he ignored the poor victims, hehehe…an edict once again to his sinuous patrons who “go to church” out of feelings but never understanding our motives, of false peace, love and reconciliation. Let the Kiss of Judas continue IN their churches, dull their minds with duties, leisure’s and platitudes, and keep pestering the true Holy Priests with troubles and timidity.<br /><br />Wormwood: Oh Uncle it’s no wonder all of HELL admires you!<br /><br />Screwtape: Save your pedestrian tribute and get me SOULS!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-75466864048461147452016-07-21T21:29:52.515+10:002016-07-21T21:29:52.515+10:00Anyone know if old Putrid Pius is going World Yout...Anyone know if old Putrid Pius is going World Youth Day? Need to have eyes looking out for him and Apuron at the event.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com