tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post5000741901631554044..comments2024-03-27T11:42:13.364+10:00Comments on JungleWatch: A FRIEND CALLED TONIGHT...Frenchiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05189311368021711422noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-33222742650943366132014-03-11T13:05:50.510+10:002014-03-11T13:05:50.510+10:00I agree. someone is playing games here. Whoever yo...I agree. someone is playing games here. Whoever you are, this is not a game. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-25255044191633076902014-03-11T02:36:28.002+10:002014-03-11T02:36:28.002+10:00I don't not think this comment is from a membe...I don't not think this comment is from a member. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-85513070963120625692014-03-11T00:02:21.328+10:002014-03-11T00:02:21.328+10:00Ric. You don't understand. We in the neo are t...Ric. You don't understand. We in the neo are the saved people of Israel. We who walk the way are saved already. Our eternity has begun in the neo community. This is how it is in heaven. We just eat the bread , that is blessed for us as a symbol of the lord. The bread will allow us to walk the way. The wine mixed with the bread in our mouth gives us strength to be neo for ever. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-22820065328501647872014-03-10T22:54:09.757+10:002014-03-10T22:54:09.757+10:00At the very, very, very, minimum, at least there w...At the very, very, very, minimum, at least there was a priest to hear confessions. <br /><br />I am not sure how to analyze this, or even if I should since all sacraments performed by a priest, no matter the heart of the priest, is <i>ex opere operato</i>, therefore valid. Importantly, he has to say these words: <br /><b>I absolve you from your sins<br />in the name of the Father, and of the Son, +<br />and of the Holy Spirit.</b><br /><br />The penance that was attached is still deeply concerning and troubling. I hope it's not stock.Average_Joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-40524004823307271632014-03-10T19:39:39.513+10:002014-03-10T19:39:39.513+10:00Anon 11:51 , interesting thing is that those are t...Anon 11:51 , interesting thing is that those are the same things David Koresh and Jim jones told their followers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-83833098282549616742014-03-10T18:32:12.310+10:002014-03-10T18:32:12.310+10:00Sorry to say I got to mass a little late on Ash We...Sorry to say I got to mass a little late on Ash Wednesday. I arrived at the Cathedral after the mass started at 7PM and was surprised to see that the confessional was still lighted. And it stayed lit all during the mass. I saw with my very own eyes that it was Fr Michael, the new priest, who was in the confessional during mass, and was even there for a while after mass. I was talking to one of the deacons after mass when he finally came out. It was him hearing confessions that night.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-38918955468826537532014-03-10T17:41:38.795+10:002014-03-10T17:41:38.795+10:00It was Father Michael Jucatan, the new Neo priest....It was Father Michael Jucatan, the new Neo priest. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-72180443373519532012014-03-10T15:25:04.889+10:002014-03-10T15:25:04.889+10:00The Archbishop IS the pastor of the Cathedral Basi...The Archbishop IS the pastor of the Cathedral Basilica, not Msgr. James. Msgr. James is just the rector. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-8685035404084012182014-03-10T15:15:16.276+10:002014-03-10T15:15:16.276+10:00So Anonymous, since you have a discrepancy with me...So Anonymous, since you have a discrepancy with me, let us clear it between the two of us as you have just recommended. Call the Cathedral Gift Shop at 479-6279. Leave your name and number. I will call you back. Common sense. Waiting. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-26406964050373934432014-03-10T15:14:19.266+10:002014-03-10T15:14:19.266+10:00Brother please look within yourself and use your b...Brother please look within yourself and use your brain instead of blindly obeying your catechists. The way is not going to save you and just because you walk doesn't mean you have a ticket to heaven! The greatest saints didn't walk in the way and yet they have a place in heaven. Ric Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-5358164339609734622014-03-10T15:06:46.270+10:002014-03-10T15:06:46.270+10:00If you reread the comment above, the issue is not ...If you reread the comment above, the issue is not the gay "individual" or a person with a same-sex orientation, the issue is a "lifestyle". Let me know if I need to explain further. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-7706614723655771102014-03-10T14:49:01.782+10:002014-03-10T14:49:01.782+10:00So the Priest asked her, if it was okay?
She was g...So the Priest asked her, if it was okay?<br />She was given an option. Why didnt she respond? Instead she chose to keep quiet and leave the confessional confused and unclear. Then she decided out of all people to call Tim and get his opinion. What was she thinking? Tim would give her an unbiased opinion? Wrong, wrong, wrong!<br />Brothers if you have a discrepancy with another, clear it between the two of you before going and bringing in a third party. Common Sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-69424444863310261842014-03-10T14:44:53.950+10:002014-03-10T14:44:53.950+10:00Hello if this is true....it sounds like you dont u...Hello if this is true....it sounds like you dont understand the church position on that lifestyle. There was once a Guest Speaker Priest, a convert, who came on island and told the congregation that "gays" are sick. Then you have the local diocesan priest who invited this convert priest on island, now waving all the colorful flags around his parish. Where as I see it, he regularly accepts these couples and often goes out to eat with them in groups. What am I trying to say? Those who choose this lifestyle need to be treated in a compassionate way. They need to be brought to an understanding of how God created them and why he created them. This must be done with patience. Remember, claiming yourself as a gay individual is not the sin itself. Engaging in the gay tendencies is what the Lord forbids. So, to call out a priest on this issue is immature.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-9148209897404775972014-03-10T14:13:10.159+10:002014-03-10T14:13:10.159+10:00The two neo priests I heard talk about rotting in ...The two neo priests I heard talk about rotting in hell ( exact words) just went to the mission lands. So now there are some replacements. Rotting in hell sounds like a course in the RMS. Too many with the same words and in the same accent! Who is teaching in this lingo? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-86461861795821667502014-03-10T12:16:06.948+10:002014-03-10T12:16:06.948+10:00In fairness it is not so much the priest who heard...In fairness it is not so much the priest who heard the confession. The problem is it is the lack of formation which the guy received. We have learnt that the guy concerned has a limited capacity of theological insight and pastoral practice. It is not his fault, he was ordained without completing all the studies, and had no pastoral experience prior to ordination. It now manifests itself after ordination. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-91566069865970122972014-03-10T10:58:51.934+10:002014-03-10T10:58:51.934+10:00Anonymous (March 9, 2014 at 2:19 AM/2:53PM): You c...Anonymous (March 9, 2014 at 2:19 AM/2:53PM): You claim that you are a “regular Roman Catholic” and then accuse Tim of being “Catholic by Book” who fails “to be Catholic by Heart”. It sounds as though you have been drinking the same brand of Kiko Argüello Kool Aid (aka “KAKA”) that the rabid NeoCats do. Like the NeoCats who drink the “KAKA” so deeply, it appears as though you view any questions, concerns and frustrations regarding the activities of the Three on the Hill and the NeoCats as “HATE.” You claim to have been “keeping tabs” on every word that Tim posts. Do you also “keep tabs” on the words of NeoCats, like the one who described Tim as the “son of Lucifer”? Or is that acceptable, in your mind?<br /><br />Like you, “I thank God for this Jungle, because it has exposed the true colors of people whom I thought to be examples of true faith” — like the Three on the Hill who were supposed to be spiritual leaders of all Catholics. Instead of nurturing us spiritually, they have failed miserably, are MEMBERS of a cult that promotes heresies and continue to try and force-feed those heresies by giving free reign to poorly-formed NeoCat priests to use the Sacrament of Penance to coerce people to join the movement. I was hoping and praying that the priest who did this was someone who had gone off the deep end, but after reading some of the comments on this post it’s clear that his questionable behavior was not an isolated incident. <br /><br />Stop drinking the “KAKA,” Anonymous (March 9, 2014 at 2:19 AM/2:53PM) before you change from a “regular Roman Catholic” into a NeoCat … unless, of course, you’re already a NeoCat telling another lie, adding to the HUGE Web of Lies that has been woven by the Three on the Hill.Mary Lounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-24234163875258976012014-03-10T10:28:27.670+10:002014-03-10T10:28:27.670+10:00To get noticed in Rome you have to have numbers an...To get noticed in Rome you have to have numbers and money. However, this past year under Francis, the climate and culture is beginning to change. Under jp2 and b16 Apuron could fly as high as he liked with his plan. But not so true now, if the mind of Francis continues in the next pope, Apuron will not find it so easy. If tim continues junglewatch, the people express their concerns, the diocesan priests protect the island, it will be these external factors, that lead to removing the neo in time. It will take about ten years to reduce the movement, leaving a small group that are in order. Today Guam is a free for all, where the archbishop has no control over the local church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-4588530661157825862014-03-10T10:17:44.085+10:002014-03-10T10:17:44.085+10:00Tim is correct. Apuron is concerned only with numb...Tim is correct. Apuron is concerned only with numbers and money. In Rome what matters is how many people and how much money. If Apuron gives numbers and money from Guam he may get what he wants, a red hat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-50867002500640574232014-03-10T06:34:07.131+10:002014-03-10T06:34:07.131+10:00Let's review. You are welcome to call the woma...Let's review. You are welcome to call the woman a liar, but she did not misunderstand him, and this is not the first recounting of such a penance. The priest did not ask her if she preferred another penance. When the woman did not respond, he asked her if it was "okay?" Since the priest did not give her an option, she was concerned that she would not receive absolution if she did not consent. So she only replied "I am at your mercy." <br /><br />It was not her fault that she did not question the priest or ask for another penance. This isn't something a penitent should have to do. Sadly, it's not even the priest's fault that he handled this badly and did not present another option, but only told her that her penitential assignment was a "mercy from me to you." It's not his fault because these men are not being trained properly as we are all beginning to see. They are being herded through the seminary lickety split so the Archbishop can 1) get his numbers up for Rome to see, and 2) wreak revenge on the rest of us. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-33813795871449724272014-03-10T02:56:49.249+10:002014-03-10T02:56:49.249+10:00I have never heard of a priest giving something li...I have never heard of a priest giving something like this out as a penance. I would imagine it was misunderstood and it was a recommendation and not the penance given which is well within the right of any priest to say. So, let's calm the lunch mob please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-47619961138390725002014-03-09T23:45:02.538+10:002014-03-09T23:45:02.538+10:00In persona Christi?
"this is a mercy from me...In persona Christi? <br />"this is a mercy from me to you"? and you say "The penance should be a remedy to sin"<br />This penance to go to something that teaches heresy? <br />you really going to lie and deny that kiko teaches that the current Catholic way of doing things is S***?<br />" To come and burn down the old trees that serve no purpose." Here we see the true motive of the NCW to burn down the church that Christ built so you can have one built by kiko! What you fail to realize is that by following this theology of the NCW you are calling Jesus a Liar! and denying that the Holy Spirit has been and will continue to guide the one true church that has existed from the beginning with the apostles.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-7457700253741504562014-03-09T23:30:39.567+10:002014-03-09T23:30:39.567+10:00All the priests of Guam should become neo. This is...All the priests of Guam should become neo. This is the wish of archbishop Apuron he has told us so. All priests must be neo. If they do not like neo then they should seek another bishop to sponsor them. To us it is very clear. Support neo or leave Guam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-46205541901126909652014-03-09T23:23:18.295+10:002014-03-09T23:23:18.295+10:00Sad to also confirm that neo priests have been ask...Sad to also confirm that neo priests have been asking for money inside the confession to support them. Called a priest friend of ours in San Francisco who is not neo, he said if true , this is a very serious sin, which needs to be reported to Rome. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-8389256873319105312014-03-09T18:53:55.391+10:002014-03-09T18:53:55.391+10:00Your right chuck. What garbage are they telling pe...Your right chuck. What garbage are they telling people within their own community that will not post in the junglewatch. How much psychlogical blackmail are the priests giving their members. We already learnt one neo priest Has told two gay guys okmfor them to be together just keep it quiet. That is not catholic teaching. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-84115734423129644842014-03-09T16:29:43.738+10:002014-03-09T16:29:43.738+10:00If they are so quick to leverage the Sacrament of ...If they are so quick to leverage the Sacrament of Penance for their sectarian ends, just think how tempted they must be to do the same with their own, with great confidence that no follower of Kiko will disobey or bring it to the jungle. Chuck Whitehttp://thoughtfulcatholic.com/?page_id=895noreply@blogger.com