tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post5451885565148860267..comments2024-03-27T11:42:13.364+10:00Comments on JungleWatch: THE POLITICAL HISTORY OF KIKO ARUGELLO AND THE NCWFrenchiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05189311368021711422noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-45224858242690811892015-09-19T10:04:10.379+10:002015-09-19T10:04:10.379+10:00Thanks, 7:04. My comment at 8:57 was a response 7:...Thanks, 7:04. My comment at 8:57 was a response 7:48 who called me "Tim Jones." LOL. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-73833684703457974522015-09-19T07:04:35.917+10:002015-09-19T07:04:35.917+10:00I posted the12:38 piece. I meant to describe the ...I posted the12:38 piece. I meant to describe the machinations of kiko arguello as eerily simlar to what happened in Guyana. I never meant to imply that it was about Tim Rohr. Far from it. Mr. Rohr is a leading advocate against kookie leadership of apuron and deceptions of ncw. He is my hero, and an unapologetic defender of Catholic values. Sorry for the misunderstanding I caused. AmenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-57257229621554120822015-09-18T21:00:11.752+10:002015-09-18T21:00:11.752+10:00LoL, You got me, I guess some of my old military w...LoL, You got me, I guess some of my old military ways are coming out.frenchienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-51821683650973248632015-09-18T20:59:23.249+10:002015-09-18T20:59:23.249+10:00I can go in more details about this with you if yo...I can go in more details about this with you if you wish, it is actually part of the excellent deception Carmen has devised since the beginning, in order to get almost unchallenged support from conservatives.<br />You can ask Tim for my private email, so I can send them to you directly.frenchienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-62336469347879752542015-08-25T13:33:18.522+10:002015-08-25T13:33:18.522+10:00Tim, your many years of life on Guam are showing. ...Tim, your many years of life on Guam are showing. The Pacific islands have a preeminent role in the history of amphibious warfare. Hence your incorrect assumption:<br /><br /><i>(Note: While Frenchie uses the word "bridgehead" hear, he probably means "beachhead.")</i><br /><br />In fact, a “bridgehead” has a venerable role in European military history. <br /> <br /><i>See</i> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgehead" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgehead</a>. (I did attend a service academy.)<br /><br />I eagerly await the next installment!<br />CNMI Lawyernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-18604062939403749802015-08-19T22:19:09.566+10:002015-08-19T22:19:09.566+10:00Thanks, Frenchie. That's an enduring puzzle: ...Thanks, Frenchie. That's an enduring puzzle: why was Cardinal Morcillo so active in promoting the Neocatechumenal Way. You mention a few reasons, and I look forward to hearing more.Chuck Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18227690954739498998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-15840358041928075372015-08-19T19:22:53.329+10:002015-08-19T19:22:53.329+10:00Hello Flo,
Thank you for your question. As far as ...Hello Flo,<br />Thank you for your question. As far as anybody can tell Carmen was a novice nun who never took her vows.<br />As I mentioned earlier, it was almost impossible for a woman at that time in Franco's Spain to study at the college level. One of the only way opened was to join a religious order and do your study while in that order.<br />Carmen has a Phd in Chemistry and another degree in Theology. This is quite remarkable and unique for that period.<br />It is safe to assume that it was by choosing this path that she was able to reach that level of study.<br />As far as her order, there again, things are murky, some (and she is one of them) declare that she quit to pursue her new found career, others claim that she was asked to leave because of some of her theories, which were way too close to the "modernist" movement. <br />The modernist movement had been under fire from both Pius XII and John XXIII, as well as their predecessor Pius XI, Benedict XV and Pius X.<br />The Orthodoxy of the Spanish Church at this moment in time, would have no such deviation. It has been suggested that, it is also a reason why Archbishop Morcillo was so helpful to help Carmen and Francisco move to Italy. By doing so he would get some space from a potentially embarrassing situation for himself and the Hernandez Barrera family vis a vis of the Church and the Spanish Government.<br />I will go in further details regarding that issue at a later date, but keep it in mind since it is an important part of that puzzle.<br />frenchienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-60809480307224080582015-08-19T13:50:38.883+10:002015-08-19T13:50:38.883+10:00asshole!!!!!!!!asshole!!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-91395426622419625392015-08-19T12:16:09.306+10:002015-08-19T12:16:09.306+10:00I had a book I purchased titled "The Pope'...I had a book I purchased titled "The Pope's Armada by Gordon Uquart. (not sure if that's correct spelling) it mentioned Carmen as being a nun, is that true? I would like to purchase another book if this is good and honest read. (I gave mine to a friend.)<br /><br />Flo B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-54319887383409070732015-07-28T07:17:45.438+10:002015-07-28T07:17:45.438+10:00the "tweaking" of self-created legends r...the "tweaking" of self-created legends reminds me of popular former ewtn evangelist, fr john corapi. he used to claim to have trained for the u.s. special forces and having other notable experiences, until real veterans actually verified his stories and found he never did many of the things that he claimed to have done. so fr corapi just tweaked his stories.<br /><br />it must be a trait of demagogue-types to embellish their own bios. in the philippines growing up, i've heard people say how president marcos had memorized entire books. not saying it's not possible, but i have a feeling that wasn't a true story.<br />rey dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16873954768569450928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-40940551602975713052015-07-27T14:46:53.694+10:002015-07-27T14:46:53.694+10:00Keep on digging Frenchie. People are beginning to ...Keep on digging Frenchie. People are beginning to smell the Kiko crap already. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-56090577366527134992015-07-27T13:16:01.930+10:002015-07-27T13:16:01.930+10:00Hello Anon at 11.49,
I had read these statements....Hello Anon at 11.49, <br />I had read these statements. For me, the more I dig into the people and their networks, the more it appears, that the legend they put out for consumption is exactly that, a legend. They tweak it as they go.<br />Actually this is their Achille's heal, that is why there is a need for them to keep the whole story as mysterious and vague as possible. I will particularly address their tripod and other issues later. I have been digging a lot more, where people have not gone yet, because it has elements that can put in perspective the hidden parts untold.<br />So far people get hung on the "technnical" issues, while I believe, that you need to understand the persons and their history to piece things together,frenchienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-615445933506809992015-07-27T13:01:43.778+10:002015-07-27T13:01:43.778+10:00Hello Rey, I will cover the Carmen issue.As for th...Hello Rey, I will cover the Carmen issue.As for the relation with NCW and Opus Dei with the Franco Regime, we are talking apples and oranges.<br />As far as Opus Dei, it was basically an integral part of organizing in the Church what already existed within the political arena. Knowing that Franco's time was nearing and a more moderate version would appear.<br />For NCW, it was different in the sense that Carmen sold it to the Church and the Regime, as a conservative movement (which it is not) that could channel and counter the socialist and marxist movements within the poor sectors of society. They basically portrayed themselves as a useful buffer of societal displeasure. ( a sort of opium for the people)<br />It was a snow job where Carmen, through Kiko used political connections to establish bridgeheads, under a pretense that was false.<br />Indeed we have seen that the NCW while pretending to bolster the family and traditions, instead is dead set on destroying it.<br />They used the same approach, to be able to reach Italy and other countries. <br />In fact while they used connections within conservative, some would say reactionary movements, once they are on strong ground, their agenda slowly changes. They basically preach what they know some princes in the church want to hear, to get the most advantages. Once in control of a sector, they then push their agenda very slowly.<br />They need to do that in order to put their financial structure in place first.<br />It is well hidden and uses soft power rather than hard power.<br />That is their main difference with Opus Dei, at least in their relation with political and ecclesiastical powers.frenchienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-72466845164724767962015-07-27T11:49:42.345+10:002015-07-27T11:49:42.345+10:00I would add the following link to fill in some bla...I would add the following link to fill in some blanks and to give a little more context. From an address of Carmen in 2002:<br /><br />http://www.camminoneocatecumenale.it/new/default.asp?lang=it&page=storia02<br /><br />There are a number of revealing statements - such as that both Kiko and Carmen (but particularly Kiko) had tried and failed separately to "found" some small community program before, and that Kiko was keen to "found" something, anything.<br /><br />It seems likely that in between their first and second meeting, Kiko invented the vision of Our Lady in order to get Carmen's support.<br /><br />When they met, Kiko had been involved in the Cursillo movement for at least a year.<br /><br />Carmen says - the real danger is Kiko Arguello "we do not want to die Kikos" she says. "and Kiko can die with all his Kikophrenalia and his songs"<br /><br />There is a further discussion on this speech at http://neocatecumenali.blogspot.com/2011/09/questo-pontificio-consiglio-avra-un.html<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-70782332350387965872015-07-27T08:57:16.312+10:002015-07-27T08:57:16.312+10:00Gotta love comments like this. Not only do they ma...Gotta love comments like this. Not only do they make my donations go up (thank you everyone), but they prove to all the world that every allegation of heresy, abuse, theft, subterfuge, and sheer lawlessness that we have made on this blog is true. For not once has any one of our allegations been substantively refuted. Only insults. Only insults. Bring them on. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-80496251217873210342015-07-27T07:48:51.730+10:002015-07-27T07:48:51.730+10:00''TIM JONES''''TIM JONES''Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-78279516819597165452015-07-26T12:38:27.143+10:002015-07-26T12:38:27.143+10:00Am watching the Jonestown massacre on CNN this Sun...Am watching the Jonestown massacre on CNN this Sunday morning. Wow, very enlightening! I hope some folks are tuned in, so they will know exactly the perils of mass adulation for a single personality cult, and to determine how this controlling dictatorship can be discerned, and hopefully avoided.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-45790072486817922202015-07-26T01:22:05.852+10:002015-07-26T01:22:05.852+10:00excellent write up by frenchie. two questions: 1)...excellent write up by frenchie. two questions: 1) is it true that carmen hernandez had been a religious sister or nun? 2) was there a difference between the franco regime's treatment of the ncw vs other groups, like opus dei?rey dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16873954768569450928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-43789928273647304262015-07-25T15:18:26.941+10:002015-07-25T15:18:26.941+10:00Carmencita Vieja, having a PhD in Chemistry? She ...Carmencita Vieja, having a PhD in Chemistry? She must have concocted the koolaid recipe, no wonder it is so effective in mass hypnotic trance. The only ingredient I know so far is orange pulp, thanks to presbyter edivaldo's rants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com