tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post6919940613885669264..comments2024-03-27T11:42:13.364+10:00Comments on JungleWatch: SEX TALK AT MASS. DETAILS AT THE CATECHESIS.Frenchiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05189311368021711422noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-46315043643521605132014-09-02T10:32:04.687+10:002014-09-02T10:32:04.687+10:00Not getting "a definite answer" is the s...Not getting "a definite answer" is the standard experience. Everything is hidden. This is on purpose. They say all we have to do is "attend" and experience for ourselves. Our church does not teach that. When we question, our church directs us to the sources. This is why the church has always taken great pains to formulate into words and examinable documents every aspect of the faith. The Neo's do the exact opposite. Doing the exact opposite of what the Catholic Church itself does and takes great pains to do is "protestant". Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-12592355474761251762014-09-02T06:22:56.953+10:002014-09-02T06:22:56.953+10:00i guess my instincts were right when i viewed thos...i guess my instincts were right when i viewed those "invitation to joy!" banners with suspicion, when they first showed up at st anthony. that was, what, 18 years ago now, i think?<br /><br />the reason i was suspicious about it was that every time i asked what that banner was about, i couldn't get a definite answer. at first it sounded like simple lectures, like a normal Bible study or something. next thing i knew, people who had gone to the talks started greeting each other with their own special greetings--what was it again, "joy!" with a kiss? ... and now, in 2014, we've got this situation.<br /><br />it was several years later, when i had to sit through the neocat homily takeover. i guess the innocent-looking "invitation" banner couldn't cut it anymore. they needed a more in-your-face kind of strategy.<br />rey dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16873954768569450928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-72353053129611464232014-09-01T21:20:58.286+10:002014-09-01T21:20:58.286+10:00It was at St. Anthony's years ago that we had ...It was at St. Anthony's years ago that we had to listen to NCW Pat (the tall) testifying of being "passed from man to man." I remember turning in shock to the woman next to me and asking, "Would you get up and say something like that in front of everyone?" I used to joke every time I saw the "Invitation to Joy" that the sign should more accurately say, "Invitation to Harassment."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-9272802733464522772014-09-01T15:39:13.582+10:002014-09-01T15:39:13.582+10:007:28 Is this Ivan from Agat who helps out at the s...7:28 Is this Ivan from Agat who helps out at the seminary? Why is he terrible? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-9556654725715506902014-09-01T12:57:18.272+10:002014-09-01T12:57:18.272+10:00Anonymous (August 31, 2014 at 10:19 AM and 1:50 PM...Anonymous (August 31, 2014 at 10:19 AM and 1:50 PM), I thank you for your clarification that you are not a member of NCW and that you were writing as a "very concerned parent." I myself am a very concerned Grandparent who is fighting to protect the AUTHENTIC Faith of our One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church for the sake of my Grandchildren and who puts my name on my comments because I believe in what I write. I stand by what I wrote in response to your 10:19 AM comment — that your interpretation of "personally confront" was very much along the lines of the mindset of the more militant NCW members who are inclined to insults and threats.<br /><br />I’m guessing that you may be a newcomer to the discussions here in JungleWatch and, as a result of your level of concern, you automatically assumed physical violence when Tim wrote the need to "personally confront" the individual who profaned the Mass. Tim — and even members of his family — has had to endure insults and/or threats over the past year but he has always used words — not threats of physical harm — to deal with those individuals.<br /><br />I hope knowing this will put your mind at rest and that you will continue to read not just Tim’s posts but also the comments that, at times, can be very informative.<br /><br />God bless you.Mary Lounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-25963614689823620632014-09-01T12:35:04.063+10:002014-09-01T12:35:04.063+10:00Anonymous (August 31, 2014 at 1:50 PM), you can se...Anonymous (August 31, 2014 at 1:50 PM), you can see for yourself at “Don’t Mess With the Caps” (http://www.junglewatch.info/2014/03/dont-mess-with-caps.html) in which Anonymous (March 5 @ 12:33 PM) writes, “… Tim ROHR. I have a Louisville Bat here that have your name …” <br /><br />There is also this comment from “A Letter from Fr. Efren” (http://www.junglewatch.info/2014/07/a-letter-from-fr-efren-adversario.html#comment-form) in which Anonymous (August 1 @ 11:23 AM) writes, “Individuals who are critical of aaa in PDN have been identified by the Neo community for extermination.”<br /><br />Of course there are other threats, but these are the ones I have made notes of because I found them so disturbing since they both denoted a certain degree of violence and/or physical harm!<br /><br />What is curious is how “Diana” and the other Kikos/Kikobots twist criticisms about the NCW and/or AAA into “persecutions” and threats simply because that is their mindset. It’s very unfortunate and unhealthy, IMO.Mary Lounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-87574151109990199392014-09-01T11:31:02.158+10:002014-09-01T11:31:02.158+10:00The Baptist would not want them. The Baptists may...The Baptist would not want them. The Baptists may be a different Christian denomination, but those that I know are wonderful people. Not like any of our our "Neo Catholics" that we have had the pleasure of putting up with. Please do not throw trash and feces at them, the Baptists do not deserve the NEO in their midst, as how WE the true Catholics do not need the NEOs!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-22999761283994886322014-09-01T09:40:02.425+10:002014-09-01T09:40:02.425+10:00It's been a while now. Haven't seen that ...It's been a while now. Haven't seen that big banner "Invitation to Joy!" for quite some time now. I guess they realized that taking over homilies is gonna raise some eyebrows. Just imagine if we all accept their invitation to joy, who will actually attend mass at St. Anthony. We will all be attending at the hall next to the covered parking garage for the priests. We won't fit. And so while we are meeting outside the church, they will renovate the church and when it is done we will all be back to church and find the cross changed and the altar moved forward. I guess if we don't know any better, we will not notice. But we will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-10912461857919745352014-09-01T08:17:44.459+10:002014-09-01T08:17:44.459+10:00Innovations that removes Reverence from practicall...Innovations that removes Reverence from practically all of the Seven Sacraments and is not Christ, solely centered, is and should be everyone's grave concern for the salvation of our souls.bekanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-21873644477571937052014-09-01T07:37:21.242+10:002014-09-01T07:37:21.242+10:00But the neos say what AAA meant is only Jungle Wat...But the neos say what AAA meant is only Jungle Watch and The Thoughtful Catholic are the blogs not to be read. <br /><br />Nonsense again.... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-91292739127636988172014-09-01T07:28:37.177+10:002014-09-01T07:28:37.177+10:00Wojciech was part of beginning group of RMS Semina...Wojciech was part of beginning group of RMS Seminarians. He is incardinated in NEWARK. Served here to get NEO going on down south, I guess. His Pastor is Ivan the Terrible. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-27603129663343944542014-09-01T03:09:47.927+10:002014-09-01T03:09:47.927+10:00Then why was he here?Then why was he here?Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-28428124561642858592014-09-01T02:50:32.641+10:002014-09-01T02:50:32.641+10:00Fr. Wojciech Jaskowiak was an awesome priest. He ...Fr. Wojciech Jaskowiak was an awesome priest. He may have been neo but he didn't put any pressure on us to join. It was always an invitation. The people of San Dimas Church were never given a reason why he left. He had gone to Poland to be with his ailing mother who eventually was called to her rest. Time went on and we were told he wasn't coming back. No explanation. We were told he'd be back to get his things (still in the konbentu) but he never came back. NO ONE has heard from him. When we ask, they tell us they don't know. We ask other priests (neo), they tell us we can "google" him. Next thing you know we have Fr. Art, another neo priest. He too was one who did not pressure us to join. Just a few years later, he's told he's going to Asia on a mission. Then enters Fr. Luis. Yet still, there's a "small" community that combines Umatac and Merizo. I think the perssure is on to increase the numbers of members in the community. I'm starting to feel the pressue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-92067014246184478902014-09-01T01:57:19.570+10:002014-09-01T01:57:19.570+10:00
Archbishop Apuron would do well as the Archbishop...<br />Archbishop Apuron would do well as the Archbishop for the military archdiocese. His Excellency would be able to fly all over the world free of charge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-88751925398378359402014-09-01T01:36:18.499+10:002014-09-01T01:36:18.499+10:00Fr. Woijeck is not incardinated in Guam. Fr. Woijeck is not incardinated in Guam. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-1600417860232072832014-09-01T00:32:10.682+10:002014-09-01T00:32:10.682+10:00i was at a sunday Mass at st anthony several years...i was at a sunday Mass at st anthony several years ago when neocats did their homily ambush/takeover. i think it was fr bibi who passed the mic around to the witnessers. i was, like: people don't want to or care to hear this; this is absolutely not the proper time; there are kids listening.<br /><br />but my family and i stayed for the rest of the Mass (not that it's ever easy to leave anyway, given the parking situation there). we dismissed it as just a strange and a bit annoying interruption. thankfully they didn't do that again, as i recall.rey dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16873954768569450928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-50514965920306576042014-08-31T21:30:51.490+10:002014-08-31T21:30:51.490+10:00Was that Fr. Woijeck (not sure if that's how y...Was that Fr. Woijeck (not sure if that's how you spell it)? He was in Barrigada before he was down in Merizo. He was indeed different from many of the other Neo priests. I had a good experience with him as a priest. Too bad he has left Guam. :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-9308068488105596162014-08-31T21:03:37.086+10:002014-08-31T21:03:37.086+10:00According to 11:59, it was after the post-communio...According to 11:59, it was after the post-communion prayer and before the final blessing. But so long at the priest is still in the sanctuary it is still considered "Mass". Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-61914365485153220972014-08-31T21:02:30.788+10:002014-08-31T21:02:30.788+10:00It’s not a matter of not wanting to join. It’s a m...It’s not a matter of not wanting to join. It’s a matter of being able to go to Mass with your family and not have this crap shoved in your face. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-8974980894977774432014-08-31T20:31:27.565+10:002014-08-31T20:31:27.565+10:00UncleScrewtape: (whispering) wormwood, I see you...UncleScrewtape: (whispering) wormwood, I see you have done well with the good house of Joseph, but be subtle and do not inspire an awakening of the prayerful ones, for their intercessor as you know can swipe the lot of you little waifs, if you have to, call upon your brother LEGION, for he will attend to you at once. There is already notice of your doings in his parish and they are now forging with his Brother Francis! Let LEGION take the lead on this, spread our errors throughout the land of SanVitores, but be gentle and they will acquiesce to your intrigues.<br /> <br />Wormwood: Of course Uncle, LEGION has already shown me a trick or two in Pride, Arrogance, Lust and Greed. He is quite the teacher. We’ve already weaken the one with the Mitre, a little more apathy and indifference for his flock and we shall receive him into our fathers house below.<br /><br />UncleScrewtape: heheheh Wormwood, if I didn’t know any better I swear you had some good in you…but you will be greatly rewarded upon our reception of the Heir of Peter….HHAHHAHAAH…once he is secured to us the rest of the flock will follow! OH the punishment is GREAT for this one for he is charged to be the Light of our Enemy for his flock. Remember Wormwood, do not permit his ordained ones to preach of us and our plan of destruction. The more their minds are numb and do not see our existence the sweeter the end will be. <br /><br />Wormwood: Yes Uncle, the wolves are already in our enemies House and slowly devouring the unsuspecting, and dissident abound with the prudent use of morality and indifference for their Holy Sacraments. We will continue to blind their minds of the truths of our dwelling below where the soul roasts for eternity and the pains NEVER ENDS!<br /><br />UncleScrewtape: Wormwood! You little devil!<br />Wormwood: heheheh<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-46202710585646012262014-08-31T20:30:31.311+10:002014-08-31T20:30:31.311+10:00If these people want to "witness" then t...If these people want to "witness" then they should go join a southern baptist church. Leave our Catholic Church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-70227942274927948062014-08-31T20:03:16.556+10:002014-08-31T20:03:16.556+10:00He will never get through the military diocese on ...He will never get through the military diocese on Guam.Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-74869635797810279222014-08-31T20:00:12.648+10:002014-08-31T20:00:12.648+10:00Lucky for those who have military benefits, they h...Lucky for those who have military benefits, they have a choice!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-66241941106863327272014-08-31T18:46:11.462+10:002014-08-31T18:46:11.462+10:00Katoliku and Atan Belen Del Karmen use to be the A...Katoliku and Atan Belen Del Karmen use to be the Archies favorite Chamorro church hymn. <br />guess that changed and is why he's confuse. Ai lokue.......<br /><br />Mr. Tim, before all this confusion with the Neo group I wasn't well educated as to their teaching but always wondered why we needed to have two group in our church. It's seems like a take over so that we can now look to KIKO as our POPE. I know it's to late for Agat, they now have Alberto down there.......oh yea and he's on retreat so we'll see what happens when he gets back. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-70446199243787557142014-08-31T18:16:38.789+10:002014-08-31T18:16:38.789+10:00That's what I did. Walked out. Went elsewhere....That's what I did. Walked out. Went elsewhere. However. AAA is determined to make sure that soon there will be no "elsewhere" to go.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.com