tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post707964500649790831..comments2024-03-27T11:42:13.364+10:00Comments on JungleWatch: IT TAKES A VILLAGEFrenchiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05189311368021711422noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-74394162389265891162016-07-06T18:54:51.895+10:002016-07-06T18:54:51.895+10:00Something horribly and tragically has been going o...Something horribly and tragically has been going on for years...that of a deathly nightshade that smote what once has pledged forever in the eyes of God turned her gaze to one who pledged purity of service and now take trips unbeknownst to their companions on yearly pilgrimage. It is sinister, and cries to the heavens for justice. Connect the dots, weep copious tears and utter words of rage!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-45837005457900605902016-07-06T02:57:43.219+10:002016-07-06T02:57:43.219+10:00"Diana, there is an expression in Spanish ver..."Diana, there is an expression in Spanish very used by neocatechumenal catechists, I don't know if it is used as well in English: "tener el colmillo retorcido", translated: "to have a twisted tusk".<br />I can not belive while I was reading your post, it seemed you actually were showing true empathy. Finally bubble of illusion broke and for the umpteenth time you did not give even one millimeter. I tell you just what Jesus says: "with the same measure you use, you will be measured". That is the point. No mercy, no compassion...nothing. As well as you claim for Apuron's innocence until proben guilty, you must appeal to the benefit of the doubt with those who say they were sexually abused. People do not use to go through the world inventing sexual abuses as if they were just drinking a coke. <br />That lack of mercy is incompatible with Jesus' heart. You can pray Liturgy of Hours like a pro, you can assist twice a mass for Sunday precept, you can sing as angels in your community, you can even levitate with your white linen tunic...If you do not love, you are nothing. <br />Maybe this is the point."<br /><br />I have just wrote it after reading the top of unmercy attitude. Sorry because I have noticed a mistake: proben is with v, it is, proven.<br /><br />Today a catholic spanish priest has been comdemned by a civil (not eclesiastical) court for raping an altar girl some decades ago. Of course and sadly, this is not an isolated case. <br />The very isolated case is that a religious movement like the Way takes part in favour of a person acused by sexual abuses and against those who say they were abused. <br />If the catholic Church would do the same, as it has happened until our times, it is, to protect the supposedly abuser against the supposedly victims abused, then we did not stay here talking about it.<br />NCW should make his attitude public in front of mass media, despite gossiping through a lady member of the Way in Guam. If NCW actually belives -as his "unofficial" voicer in Guam claims- Apuron is victim of a conspiracy due he is a neo-member, then the NCW should tell it for the mass media. <br />It will not happen because then Kiko will be reported. Remember what happened with his open mouth in Italy around the Family Day, he just was silenced by the own Episcopal Conference. Someday somebody will report Kiko to Strasburg Court. <br />Kiko, please, give a press conference to public and officially clarify what is NCW opinion about those who say Apuron abused them. <br />LAPAZnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-85804610829583168922016-07-06T00:01:44.785+10:002016-07-06T00:01:44.785+10:00Who are guam priests who pen a weekly tome? Someth...Who are guam priests who pen a weekly tome? Something going on here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-47678362296364063682016-07-05T23:59:53.645+10:002016-07-05T23:59:53.645+10:00
These poems being closely studied to observe conn...<br />These poems being closely studied to observe connections hidden messages in the text.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-20948577405690576352016-07-05T23:54:28.242+10:002016-07-05T23:54:28.242+10:00The primrose and the primula
Are really very simul...The primrose and the primula<br />Are really very simula<br />But out in Guam<br />The slugs and the snails<br />Make both of them look grimula.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-87929279820528332016-07-05T23:45:27.597+10:002016-07-05T23:45:27.597+10:00Kiko's "You are shit" anthropology c...Kiko's "You are shit" anthropology certainly is germane to the discussion, Anon 9:34 AM, and I thank you for reminding us. Here is a list of posts that discuss various aspects of this topic:<br />* <a href="http://thoughtfulcatholic.com/?page_id=44769" rel="nofollow">You're shit, but God loves you</a><br />* <a href="http://thoughtfulcatholic.com/?page_id=44446" rel="nofollow">God makes no demands</a><br />* <a href="http://thoughtfulcatholic.com/?page_id=43911" rel="nofollow">Jesus Christ loves me just the way I am</a><br />* <a href="http://thoughtfulcatholic.com/?page_id=45013" rel="nofollow">Do not resist evil, Part I</a><br />* <a href="http://thoughtfulcatholic.com/?page_id=44155" rel="nofollow">The Doctrine of the Necessary Judas</a>Chuck Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18227690954739498998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-10495788298735770632016-07-05T20:33:25.819+10:002016-07-05T20:33:25.819+10:00Oh can it be, that evening primrose be
That wrough...Oh can it be, that evening primrose be<br />That wrought her beloved's gaze forever smote<br />and journeyed far at year's interval<br />to that which they called the holy land <br />now in the guise as if husband<br />this priest that pens a weekly tome<br />yet full of greed which he sends home.<br /><br />Could it be then, that hope anew<br />light for a church, long gone askew?<br />would that your voice, count up also<br />say what you know, ought justice flow!<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-50790391940988569752016-07-05T20:25:12.418+10:002016-07-05T20:25:12.418+10:00
With all due respect to Archbishop Hon his ad hoc...<br />With all due respect to Archbishop Hon his ad hoc groups are doomed to fail. Groups fail to include all fractions of the church. Hope they work but very much doubt.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-56143004287719749362016-07-05T17:52:50.979+10:002016-07-05T17:52:50.979+10:00When once the sun sinks in the west
And dewdrops p...When once the sun sinks in the west<br />And dewdrops pearl the evening's breast,<br />Almost as pale as the moonbeams are,<br />Or its companionable star,<br />The evening Primrose opes anew<br />Its delicate blossoms to the dew,<br />And priest hermit like shunning the light<br />Wastes its fair bloom upon the night<br />Who, blindfolded to its fond caresses,<br />Knows not the beauty it possesses,<br />Thus it blooms on while night is by<br />When day looks out with open eye<br />Bashed at the gaze it cannot shun<br />It faints and withers and is gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-26792453752249495802016-07-05T15:58:27.019+10:002016-07-05T15:58:27.019+10:00
Priest concerned in this post should be advised ...<br />Priest concerned in this post should be advised to leave Guam return to his place of incardination. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-5133594948864486182016-07-05T15:02:20.409+10:002016-07-05T15:02:20.409+10:00Yes Andrew. There are more solutions to our church...Yes Andrew. There are more solutions to our church problems on Guam if only we open our eyes to the heavens. The church needs a complete cleansing from the dysfunction of the past. These dysfunctional individuals along with apuron are guilty of leading this Archdiocese to a moral disorder. It is Anthony Apuron his minions who begun this war over two decades ago. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-31501821281619616042016-07-05T14:12:14.163+10:002016-07-05T14:12:14.163+10:00
Archdiocese of Agana needs a complete cleaning of...<br />Archdiocese of Agana needs a complete cleaning of house. Unfortunately the approach Archbishop Hon only deepened a crisis of leadership. Unfortunately he should have first built the trust of people. Peace can only flow from a true respect for others along with a sense of justice. The situation caused by apuron created deep seated emotional hurt anxiety. Healing cannot possibly begin until trust is rebuilt. Archbishop Hon yes you hold the power but your power will not bring healing unless you begin to understand the pain so many lived under. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-1926294993311801952016-07-05T13:54:09.195+10:002016-07-05T13:54:09.195+10:00More and more I think of the Jack Nicholson quote ...More and more I think of the Jack Nicholson quote from A Few Good Men: "You can't handle the truth!" Maybe that's it. Maybe we can't handle the truth. Maybe we need to close our eyes and repeat over and over, "It isn't happening" or "It didn't happen." If we don't think about it, it doesn't exist. Maybe that is the solution. Maybe.Andrew Camachonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-69623216806076847092016-07-05T13:51:31.768+10:002016-07-05T13:51:31.768+10:00There is a name circulating.
For obvious reasons n...There is a name circulating.<br />For obvious reasons no names can be released on Junglewatch. However information regarding this story is known but not published. Archbishop Hon himself is not aware of the full extent of the damage . However Archbishop Krebs is aware.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-46930053503641949502016-07-05T12:36:03.122+10:002016-07-05T12:36:03.122+10:00Note: as you know I don't put names on the bl...Note: as you know I don't put names on the blog unless I know I can back it up. I have many horrific accounts, and not just of the sex variety. Money too. If you or you know someone who is willing to put their name in an accusation, I will make sure you are legally covered as I did for the others.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-19581996708989674432016-07-05T11:58:47.653+10:002016-07-05T11:58:47.653+10:00We are faced with a choice: 1) Continue to do what...We are faced with a choice: 1) Continue to do what we have been doing - sweeping problems under the rug, hoping no one will find out, praying that things will get better or 2) Speak out and expose the truth no matter how painful it is.<br /><br />The first choice is certainly easier. Unfortunately the problem does not get better and more people suffer as a result. The second choice is very difficult. However the community is very supportive and we want to help in the healing process.<br /><br />Lord, help all who have suffered abuse. Heal their hearts and minds. Give them the courage to speak the truth and seek justice. Bless our island with true peace.Andrew Camachonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-69664373902998588782016-07-05T11:53:39.982+10:002016-07-05T11:53:39.982+10:00Indeed. Point taken. Indeed. Point taken. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-752480993566464522016-07-05T10:47:15.633+10:002016-07-05T10:47:15.633+10:00While Anthony Sablan Apuron's penchant for you...While Anthony Sablan Apuron's penchant for young boys has been demonstrated with the revelations by personal testimonies from 3 of his victims, the 4th one represented by his mother — and I believe there are still more victims out there unwilling to come forward — it appears that other members of the clergy preferred members of the opposite sex. <br /><br />From this post it is clear that there are women with their own accounts of abuse — abuse about which they have remained silent for decades. Whether or not they will reveal their abuse at the hands of clergy — long before the NCW came to Guam — remains to be seen. Since at least one of the priests is "still in active ministry," such revelations would demonstrate that the <b>condoning</b> AND <b>covering up</b> of sexual abuse by clergy is alive and well in the Archdiocese of Agaña. <br /><br />Truly the time has come when victims can be <b>SILENT NO MORE</b> … even if it means priests "still in active ministry" will have to endure the consequences of their actions. Furthermore I hope the reactions of Anthony Sablan Apuron have taught them what <b>NOT</b> to do should their victim(s) decide to come forward. <b>Do NOT demonize your accusers and threaten to sue them</b> as Apuron did. To do so would be to victimize them anew and would only serve to prove you are just as repulsive as Anthony Sablan Apuron. Mary Lou Garcia-Peredanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-16438776931549485302016-07-05T10:38:50.395+10:002016-07-05T10:38:50.395+10:00The problem is not only neo. Important to remember...The problem is not only neo. Important to remember neo only came in flourished becauses Apuron needed to cover up his abuse and others. Problems evolved when neo used their knowledge of the abuses to blackmail Apuron. The four sexual abuses so far only tip of the iceberg to the real state of affairs. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-76817871793916180612016-07-05T10:33:45.197+10:002016-07-05T10:33:45.197+10:00This remaining silent has been part of our culture...This remaining silent has been part of our culture as long as I can remember. People talked in their own homes but would never bring it out to the authorities. This is why so many young people suffered. If the person they trusted the most couldn't help them then who would.? If they turned to a priest who they thought would help them they heard "priests live a lonely life".. Where could they go? Who could they trust? Just sweep it under the rug and hopefully it will go away. Well it's not going away again. It's out there let's deal with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-85865139623572841802016-07-05T09:55:14.992+10:002016-07-05T09:55:14.992+10:00 The account of the husband who committed Suicide ... The account of the husband who committed Suicide happened here on Guam. Priest concerned continues to suck money out of our people . He is not a priest of our Archdiocese.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-57608029794395733862016-07-05T09:46:35.734+10:002016-07-05T09:46:35.734+10:00You are correct in nailing Kiko's theological ...You are correct in nailing Kiko's theological anthropology as the culprit in their hiding of clergy perverts. However, the crimes noted above happened long before the arrival of Kiko's institutional perversions, and they are still going on amongst clergy (as well as non-clergy) who are not neo. There is something much more evil at the root of it. Kiko's teaching are only the fungus growing on a rotten log. And Satan may well be satisfied with our being diverted to thinking that the problem is only neo. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-34254088818746818292016-07-05T09:34:22.984+10:002016-07-05T09:34:22.984+10:00You've hit the nail on the head here. The whol...You've hit the nail on the head here. The whole Neo worldview, their whole theological anthropology, is wrapped up on this Lutheran "man is shit" bad theology whereby redemption is only God covering up this shit with a blanket of snow (Luther's words, not mine). They think we are so fundamentally worthless that once Jesus forgives us and we accept it, then everything is a-ok. Hence their complete willingness to let their bishops, priests, and catechists be as lecherous as they want--it really doesn't matter since we are all sinners anyway. <br /><br />God help us. It's funny (not ha-ha funny) how they are so quick to dismiss the sufferings of others. They are the most un-Catholic Catholics I've ever seen. What makes it worse, they are so far from the Tradition that they've long since lost their Catholicity. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com