tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post8060314681204144942..comments2024-03-27T11:42:13.364+10:00Comments on JungleWatch: FROM AN EX-NEOCAT IN REPLY TO ANONYMOUSFrenchiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05189311368021711422noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-55747003564654517652017-03-14T21:33:32.884+10:002017-03-14T21:33:32.884+10:00Anonymous 8:17 I'm so happy for you that you c...Anonymous 8:17 I'm so happy for you that you chose to use your own intelligence and conscience instead of letting Kiko do it for you<br />AgnesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-90247286178700292372017-03-14T20:17:48.311+10:002017-03-14T20:17:48.311+10:00I was brought up in The Way. I affirm it is cultic...I was brought up in The Way. I affirm it is cultic aat at minimum sect. Everything said in the authors large paragraph about the creating dependency of members and a sense of specialness and division from mainstream church, and everyone else, is true. I'll tell you something else too. Around 2011 Kiko ordered all Neocat members to delete their Facebooks as he declared it an instrument of the devil. Many members complied but not me. Think about that for a while..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-72109334394441017302015-01-28T16:43:17.887+10:002015-01-28T16:43:17.887+10:00Why don't you read your comments aloud to your...Why don't you read your comments aloud to yourself, because you sound more like what you just said. LIKE A CHILD, you just mirrored what you just said. If you're a man, shame on you, I can imagine you might even cry loudly. That's how I picture you. Sorry, I can't say this more gently, so cry......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-87648228966105532122013-12-26T12:06:02.041+10:002013-12-26T12:06:02.041+10:00Zoltan, anyone can pull scripture out of context t...Zoltan, anyone can pull scripture out of context to make it fit their theology. Address the issue for the umpteenth time. If you think we are all liars and slanderers then follow your own advice and stop engaging the blog. really dude, your responses are getting silly!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-66508618490862624392013-12-24T19:22:54.783+10:002013-12-24T19:22:54.783+10:00Dear Anonymous, Dec 24th 2013 at 12:50pm...
In re...Dear Anonymous, Dec 24th 2013 at 12:50pm...<br /><br />In regards to your message to Mary Lou about being so rude, I beg to differ and I, too, have been donating my money to a much more visible cause. I like to know where my money goes. <br /><br />I attend non-neo priests/parishes whether it be capuchin or diocesan ...I can honestly say I no longer donate to the collection basket...I give my money in the form of mass intentions because I know where the money goes. If the church needs money for building, maintenance, or any other purpose for that specific church...I give my donation to the parish office for that specific purpose. I will not drop money into to the collection baskets anymore because I know a portion goes to the chancery but for what use? To help support the Redemptorist Mater or whatever the Archbishop sees fit to spend it on? No thank you.<br /><br />Yes, I am not a neo and choose not to be one. I know where Jesus is and if I ever need him I could easily go to the blessed sacrament ..and if I need advice, I could go to a priest, and if I need to confess I know I can confess to a priest and ONLY a priest. I know I can count on the Catholic Church as my salvation as long as I am faithful to our lord and to his commandments no one needs to tell me otherwise. <br /><br />I was born from a catholic family and baptized in a Catholic Church, raised as a catholic and taught the catholic faith...and as far as I am concerned...I will die a catholic with a traditional catholic mass in a Catholic Church with a catholic priest presiding in union with the Magisterium of the Catholic Church! <br /><br />And I definitely know in my heart that the NEO is not thee way!<br /><br />when did Jesus establish His Church? When? When He was here upon earth. And how long ago is it that Christ was upon earth? You know our Christian era dates from Him. He was born many centuries ago. That is an historical fact admitted by all. He lived on earth thirty-three years. That is the time Christ established His Church on earth. Any Church, that has not existed this long, is not the Church of Jesus Christ, but is the institution or invention of some man, but not of God, not of Christ.<br /><br />And to this we answer, if the Catholic Church had been once the true church, then she is still true, and shall be the true Church of God to the end of time, or Jesus Christ has deceived us. For Christ has promised that the gates of hell shall not prevail against the Church. He says that He has built it upon a rock, and that the gates of hell shall never prevail against it.<br /><br />As for NCW... You can argue and argue that you are under the umbrella of the catholic faith...but as I posted above the words from:<br />The One True Church<br />by Fr. Arnold Damen, S.J. (1815 - 1890)<br />Imprimatur: Michael Augustine, Archbishop of New York.<br /><br />Any Church, that has not existed this long, is not the Church of Jesus Christ, but is the institution or invention of some man, but not of God, not of Christ.<br /><br />You have to remember...your NCW is the institution or invention of Kiko and Carmen..... Christ already created a church...it is called the Catholic Church in which St. Peter became the first pope. You can not claim your service is catholic if you hold your church outside of the catholic church. Think about it! I mean.. really... think about it!<br /><br /><br />Maria Rosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-1614873133942055122013-12-24T19:06:20.032+10:002013-12-24T19:06:20.032+10:00Dear Anonymous, Dec 24th 2013 at 12:50pm...
In re...Dear Anonymous, Dec 24th 2013 at 12:50pm...<br /><br />In regards to your message to Mary Lou about being so rude, I beg to differ and I, too, have been donating my money to a much more visible cause. I like to know where my money goes. <br /><br />I attend non-neo priests/parishes whether it be capuchin or diocesan ...I can honestly say I no longer donate to the collection basket...I give my money in the form of mass intentions because I know where the money goes. If the church needs money for building, maintenance, or any other purpose for that specific church...I give my donation to the parish office for that specific purpose. I will not drop money into to the collection baskets anymore because I know a portion goes to the chancery but for what use? To help support the Redemptorist Mater or whatever the Archbishop sees fit to spend it on? No thank you.<br /><br /> Yes, I am not a neo and choose not to be one. I know where Jesus is and if I ever need him I could easily go to the blessed sacrament ..and if I need advice, I could go to a priest, and if I need to confess I know I can confess to a priest and ONLY a priest. I know I can count on the Catholic Church as my salvation as long as I am faithful to our lord and to his commandments no one needs to tell me otherwise. <br /><br />I was born from a catholic family and baptized in a Catholic Church, raised as a catholic and taught the catholic faith...and as far as I am concerned...I will die a catholic with a traditional catholic mass in a Catholic Church with a catholic priest presiding in union with the Magisterium of the Catholic Church! <br /><br />And I definitely know in my heart that the NEO is not thee way!<br /><br /> when did Jesus establish His Church? When? When He was here upon earth. And how long ago is it that Christ was upon earth? You know our Christian era dates from Him. He was born many centuries ago. That is an historical fact admitted by all. He lived on earth thirty-three years. That is the time Christ established His Church on earth. Any Church, that has not existed this long, is not the Church of Jesus Christ, but is the institution or invention of some man, but not of God, not of Christ.<br /><br />And to this we answer, if the Catholic Church had been once the true church, then she is still true, and shall be the true Church of God to the end of time, or Jesus Christ has deceived us. For Christ has promised that the gates of hell shall not prevail against the Church. He says that He has built it upon a rock, and that the gates of hell shall never prevail against it.<br /><br /><br /><br />Maria Rosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-81459811875136756152013-12-24T18:13:26.101+10:002013-12-24T18:13:26.101+10:00Anonymus- I just love the way you say "we are...Anonymus- I just love the way you say "we are 20,000" because all I know is 'we are One,Holy,Catholic and Apostolic Church".-<br /><br />Pernicious and instrumental affirmation.<br /><br />Neocatechumenal Way is an itinerary of Catholic Formation, valid for our society and for our times. (John Paul II, Apostolic letter "Ogniqualvolta"), this declaration is part of the MAGISTERIUM of the POPE.<br /><br />"Can. 752 Although not an assent of faith, a religious submission of the intellect and will must be given to a doctrine which the Supreme Pontiff or the college of bishops declares concerning faith or morals when they exercise the authentic magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim it by definitive act; therefore, the Christian faithful are to take care to avoid those things which do not agree with it."<br /><br /><br />Sorry for my english.Trilexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-43337709536877046242013-12-24T15:21:15.274+10:002013-12-24T15:21:15.274+10:00A percentage of what is collected from the parishe...A percentage of what is collected from the parishes go to the chancery for their so called budget operations. If ordot church collects an average of 15,000 a month then take 10% which is 1500×12=18000. So take 18000×13 parishes=234000 turned in to the chancery for their operational expenses. This is only an example. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-56309872606980202712013-12-24T15:04:34.569+10:002013-12-24T15:04:34.569+10:00The successor of Peter is the Bishop of Rome who i...The successor of Peter is the Bishop of Rome who is the Pope. Do not give Apuron a title he does not deserve. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-29726360888465387612013-12-24T14:45:34.524+10:002013-12-24T14:45:34.524+10:00It seems that the only thing the Archbishop is goo...It seems that the only thing the Archbishop is good at feeding, is HIMSELF.One of the Hungry!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-49936109889860691452013-12-24T14:34:46.032+10:002013-12-24T14:34:46.032+10:00Zoltan:
As Archbisop Anthony Apuron is the succes...Zoltan:<br /><br />As Archbisop Anthony Apuron is the successor of Peter, he is under the same admonition to look after and feed the sheep, as a father would to his children. There was nothing paternal about how he handled Fr. Paul, to name but one example. You may want to admonish him for not heeding to Christ's admonition. One of the Sheepnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-36300064135462104102013-12-24T14:23:49.107+10:002013-12-24T14:23:49.107+10:00Beware to all who contribute...the Archbishop has ...Beware to all who contribute...the Archbishop has long sticky fingers. We do need to support the Church, but there is no reason to support his money grabs. Why do you think the entire Archdiocese is being adited? Probably because they fear he has been getting a cut of the action all along. This is sickening.<br /><br />Safe to give to the parish so it stays there, and safe to give to the Capucchins. Any diocese-wide appeal likely to be siphoned off before it gets to its intended purpose. Maybe the Archbishop has been learning too much from how the Govt works!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-67643999589329037562013-12-24T14:23:48.346+10:002013-12-24T14:23:48.346+10:00Mary Lou are you living in the clouds?
since the b...Mary Lou are you living in the clouds?<br />since the beginning Most Reverend Tim Rohr affirmed that Fr. Paul was asked to resign because he did not accept the Way in his parish. And this is the fundamental problem, because everything has begun with a LIE, the devil was a liar since the beginning. The prince of this world is the devil...but the slaughtered lamb wins the beast. <br />Marry Christmas Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-38872228046322144332013-12-24T13:37:55.860+10:002013-12-24T13:37:55.860+10:00Anonymous at December 24, 2013 at 12:50 PM, read t...Anonymous at December 24, 2013 at 12:50 PM, read the comments again. Your analysis is way off and does not come close to what you have described. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-42912628694060247662013-12-24T12:50:43.891+10:002013-12-24T12:50:43.891+10:00You are rather rude Mary Lou. So what if this per...You are rather rude Mary Lou. So what if this person got invited to the luncheon. What this person does with his/her money is his/her business. You are just as horrible as Zoltan. I am not a Neo and never will be. There is so much bitterness in your heart. When you are not happy you want others to feel the way you do. Plain and simple. If you don't give whatsoever to the church, then don't. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-8336523774733736832013-12-24T12:39:29.592+10:002013-12-24T12:39:29.592+10:00Dear Mary Lou, here is why we have to respect the ...Dear Mary Lou, here is why we have to respect the Pope and Church leaders. We are the members, but Christ us the Head!<br /><br />""15 When they had eaten, Jesus said to Simon Peter, 'Simon son of John, do you love me more than these others do?' He answered, 'Yes, Lord, you know I love you.' Jesus said to him, 'Feed my lambs.'<br /><br />16 A second time he said to him, 'Simon son of John, do you love me?' He replied, 'Yes, Lord, you know I love you.' Jesus said to him, 'Look after my sheep.'<br /><br />17 Then he said to him a third time, 'Simon son of John, do you love me?' Peter was hurt that he asked him a third time, 'Do you love me?' and said, 'Lord, you know everything; you know I love you.' Jesus said to him, 'Feed my sheep."" (John 21:15-17)<br /><br />Merry Xmas! ;)Zoltanhttp://neocatheart.blogspot.com/2013/12/merry-xmas.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-36940890191641702452013-12-24T12:27:24.026+10:002013-12-24T12:27:24.026+10:00I found the reply by Anonymous (December 23, 2013 ...I found the reply by Anonymous (December 23, 2013 at 11:55 PM), a self-identified "anti-neo" to the question by Anonymous (December 23, 2013 at 9:44PM) about the invitation to the luncheon for the visiting Bishop from Rome quite interesting. The speculation by "11:55PM Anonymous" that the invitation was probably extended because of "many years" of donating to the seminary is quite likely an accurate one. <br /><br />Thanks to what I have learned over the past few months, I will no longer donate to the "AAA" (FKA "CCA") because I refuse to support RMS. Like "11:55PM Anonymous," I would prefer to contribute to the non-Neo diocesan seminary — preferably a DIRECT contribution so that my funds don't "accidentally" get diverted to RMS via "AAA." Mary Lounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-68409681467975020542013-12-24T12:11:59.160+10:002013-12-24T12:11:59.160+10:00To Anonymous (December 24, 2013 at 10:08 AM): How ...To Anonymous (December 24, 2013 at 10:08 AM): How very interesting that you and I interpreted that particular sentence — "However, that said, this is MY blog and I can do and say whatever I want with it" — differently. You see it as a vehicle to insult Tim as "becoming like a little spoil [sic] kid" whereas I view it as an opportunity to thank Tim for providing this blog as a forum for us to share our concerns about the division in the Church in Guam, which for me, began in January 2006 although I had heard — and dismissed — such concerns prior to hearing the Archbishop on KOLG.<br /><br />Tim also pointed out that all of us who choose to comment are guests. It is abundantly clear that you and some "guests" have a great deal of contempt for our "host," Tim Rohr. If any of these guests — particularly those in the NCW — think that Tim started this blog in July 2013 as an attack on the NCW, they are clearly ignorant of the earliest posts. On August 28, in a post entitled “TO BE CLEAR” Tim clarified that “ … JungleWatch is not concerned with the NCW …” Go back to the very beginning of the blog, people, and see what the first entries are about — they were NOT about the NCW. Check it out for yourself if you don’t believe me. Posts were not tagged as NCW until August.<br /><br />Thank you, Tim Rohr, for providing this blog as a vehicle to voice our questions, concerns, frustrations — and, at times, anger — about the division of the Church in Guam. I pray that God will send a faithful, orthodox, competent and impartial shepherd to heal, unite and lead the Church.Mary Lounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-44487008396214221042013-12-24T11:15:24.078+10:002013-12-24T11:15:24.078+10:00Anon at 10:08: Um, it is his blog. Not yours. H...Anon at 10:08: Um, it is his blog. Not yours. He does not have to allow you to act a fool, yet there you are. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-79410480561148014842013-12-24T10:56:51.895+10:002013-12-24T10:56:51.895+10:00I am glad you got invited. Hope you had a good ti...I am glad you got invited. Hope you had a good time. On your note of producing good priest well I like one who is spiritual. I watch the seminarians when they attend masses at the cathedral on various occassions and some of them don't even bother to participate wholeheartedly. They are either whispering to each other or giggling. So much for good examples with proper behavior in church. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-44417188318553370252013-12-24T10:48:43.094+10:002013-12-24T10:48:43.094+10:00Triplex you are beginning to sound like zoltan. Ev...Triplex you are beginning to sound like zoltan. Everything seems to be www.com. must b from the same community. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-63268397092754550922013-12-24T10:44:41.736+10:002013-12-24T10:44:41.736+10:00thats out of context. now you're just fishing ...thats out of context. now you're just fishing for insults. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-23555938968492707942013-12-24T10:08:32.558+10:002013-12-24T10:08:32.558+10:00"However, that said, this is MY blog and I ca..."However, that said, this is MY blog and I can do and say whatever I want with it."<br />Tim seems becoming like a little spoil kid. "THIS IS MINE DO NOT TOUCH IT OTHERWISE I WILL TELL MUM AND SHE WILL PUNISH YOU"...Tim grow up and accept that YOU ARE NOT GOD. In all these years in the Church you have not understand anything about Christianity, but do not worry you can begin from tonight that's why we celebrate Christmas every year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-60919414860705528232013-12-24T07:54:33.546+10:002013-12-24T07:54:33.546+10:00No trikex did with the WE ARE. No trikex did with the WE ARE. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-22924508928699661802013-12-24T07:30:09.889+10:002013-12-24T07:30:09.889+10:00There was only one comment moderated in the histor...There was only one comment moderated in the history of this blog and it was when I banned Zoltan early on because I believed he was not representative of most neos and his behavior would badly reflect on otherwise good and sincere people. I have published everything else and have left the comments open for quite a while. However, that said, this is MY blog and I can do and say whatever I want with it. You are a guest here. I have told you before to start your own blog and do the hard work that I have done to create a readership. But the best you can do is parasite on to mine. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.com