tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post8149239940390193781..comments2024-02-29T20:49:12.171+10:00Comments on JungleWatch: THE CATHEDRAL RECTOR'S VALENTINE'S DAY MISSIVE AND WHAT WE NEED TO KNOWFrenchiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05189311368021711422noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-53971438498029486432017-02-23T04:25:35.691+10:002017-02-23T04:25:35.691+10:00To Anon 6:12, for parishioners like you with an RM...To Anon 6:12, for parishioners like you with an RMS presbyter as pastor, considering a transfer to a parish nearby with a non-RMS presbyter as pastor. Setting aside the many other reasons, this transfer would be for the very basic reason discussed in this thread --- that there is inconsistent or a lack of implementation of the GIRM. If enough parishioners transfer out of these parishes with an RMS presbyter at its helm, that parish will collapse sooner or later. Until a non-RMS presbyter heads that parish and adherence to the GIRM is restored then return to your former parish. Do as JungleWatchers have been asking Abp. Byrnes to do --- take a side, take a stand. Don't go along with the NCW practices that are present in your parish if you don't agree with them. Transfer to another parish and practices your Catholic faith in the way it is supposed to be practiced.Rose de los Reyes (Seattle, WA)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-13007052570204247742017-02-23T01:47:35.573+10:002017-02-23T01:47:35.573+10:00How embossing president of CPAC wasting his interv...How embossing president of CPAC wasting his intervention in Rome speaking about the breadness of bread. He was already brainwashed at this time. Did he represent US or did he represent THEM. YOU KNOW, HIS TRUE BROTHERS. YES, I MEAN ALBERTO, FABIO, HAROLD, . Wait. Where are these guys? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-89209686278739150762017-02-23T01:39:04.163+10:002017-02-23T01:39:04.163+10:00The only people our priests take Communion to at M...The only people our priests take Communion to at Mass are disabled ones seated in a front pew section that's reserved for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-371259780613531422017-02-22T23:08:31.110+10:002017-02-22T23:08:31.110+10:00Touche', Tim! Indeed idiocy is a trademark of...Touche', Tim! Indeed idiocy is a trademark of neobots. Apuron, I can understand he bought the "banquet" crap since he really is an idiot, but others who are smarter somehow got snared in the kiko-think and hi-jinks! Sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-65555636376926378422017-02-22T20:59:55.396+10:002017-02-22T20:59:55.396+10:00The idiot talking trash n Rome while Carmelites in...The idiot talking trash n Rome while Carmelites in Guam were baking the hosts for Guam. Mass produced? Not. Kiko bread for sale. Kiko family recipe. More $$$$$$$$$$ for neocats . Still waiting to hear all about 'how we walk' c'mon. Out with it. Diana, feeling ok? Been quiet lately. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-48193667608962748502017-02-22T20:32:29.254+10:002017-02-22T20:32:29.254+10:00Sad state of affairsSad state of affairsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-19676425251522010322017-02-22T20:14:58.040+10:002017-02-22T20:14:58.040+10:00Well then if that's the rationale then what so...Well then if that's the rationale then what sort of banquet does one go to where you only get a tiny piece of bread? What an idiot.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-59423833307972424552017-02-22T20:09:56.324+10:002017-02-22T20:09:56.324+10:00Simply put the indult on Fr. Paul's desk.Simply put the indult on Fr. Paul's desk.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-2251483982973748392017-02-22T20:07:29.516+10:002017-02-22T20:07:29.516+10:00its a good thing byrnes is not taking sides, for n...its a good thing byrnes is not taking sides, for now he can just use his imagination being at a banquet. as the coadjutor can look forward to the return of apuron, as bishop-buddies they might enjoy a banquet for two.<br /><br />Archbishop Anthony Apuron of Agana, Guam, said the entire church should consider adopting some of the Way's liturgical practices, including restoring "the 'breadness' of the bread," by using the "unleavened bread used in the ancient and primitive church rather than the wafer-thin, mass-produced bread we use as hosts for our people today."<br /><br />And, he said, when a priest carries the Eucharist to people who are seated, it fosters more of a sense of community.<br /><br />"What sort of a banquet does one go to which requires you to stand rather than sit?" Archbishop Apuron asked<br /><br />http://www.catholicnews.com/data/sto...ns/0507371.htm<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-48359444738781027822017-02-22T20:04:50.207+10:002017-02-22T20:04:50.207+10:00Those Kiko paintings on the walls at the Barrigada...Those Kiko paintings on the walls at the Barrigada Church have to go! A fresh coat of paint over those paintings will be a big improvement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-90496926878184909822017-02-22T19:51:42.987+10:002017-02-22T19:51:42.987+10:00I hope byrnes is proud that the ncw is at the serv...I hope byrnes is proud that the ncw is at the service of the bishop. maybe byrnes should just send all local priest back to seminary school to be as educated as the ncw in their teachings. <br /><br />Diana June 22, 2014 at 7:20 AM<br />It was on December 14, 2008 during an interview with a Spanish newspaper La Razón, that Antonio Cardinal Cañizares, the Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship, expressed his view on the Eucharistic celebration of the Neocatechumenal Way:<br /><br />"There are no liturgical anomalies [in the Eucharist]; everything is in full compliance of the guidelines of the ‘Ordo Missae.’ What I have really seen there are Eucharists celebrated without any hurry, with a great faith, and where you can perceive the joy and the thanksgiving for the gift which is being bestowed in the Eucharist.” <br /><br />This was said by the Prefect after the changes were made. It was in October 2008 that I remember a change was made in how we receive the Eucharist. In my blogsite, I stated that I heard Father Pius said that they were given these instructions from Kiko, who in turn received the same instructions from the Pope. This change was universal. In the past, we used to receive the Body of Christ sitting down. The change that was made was to receive the Body of Christ standing up, then we sit down until everyone has received the Body of Christ. <br /><br />In his Canonical Observations on the Definitive Approval of the Statutes of the Neocatechumenal Way, Msgr. Juan Arrieta, Secretary of the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts, summarizes the liturgical concessions of the Neocatechumenal Way as follows:<br /><br />“First, that the neocatechumens celebrate the Eucharist in the small community, after the First Vespers of Sunday. Second, that this celebration, after First Vespers takes place according to the disposition of the diocesan bishop. Third, that these celebrations [...] are part of the pastoral work and consequently are open to all the faithful. Fourth, that in these celebrations the liturgical books approved by the Roman Rite are followed, 'with the exception of the explicit concessions from the Holy See' (always with unleavened bread), moving the rite of peace before the consecration, communion under both species, brief admonitions and echoes and, finally, a new way for the distribution of Communion: 'Regarding the distribution of Holy Communion under the two species, the neocatechumens receive standing, remaining at their place.' The faithful receive the precious body while standing, take seat and wait until all have received. Then the celebrant says 'Body of Christ, bring us everlasting life!' and the whole congregation consumes immediately after the priest consumes the host. The ecce Agnus Dei along with the Domine non sum dignus are typically recited but is sometimes omitted due to error on the part of the celebrant. Sharing the cup takes place afterward, individually, while the faithful are standing at their seats and a priest or Extraordinary minister of Holy Communion carries the chalice around.<br /><br />http://neocatechemunal.blogspot.com/2014/06/neocatechumenal-way-liturgy-and.html<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-37233758019006922962017-02-22T13:15:42.448+10:002017-02-22T13:15:42.448+10:00Here you go:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5...Here you go: <br />https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5IW0Zxhdou0WjFpeFFkeTAyRTgTimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-17374342855867738112017-02-22T12:21:01.882+10:002017-02-22T12:21:01.882+10:00Tim - Really looking forward to your formatting of...Tim - Really looking forward to your formatting of the info into printable form, so we can pass it out to our Barrigada group, to be better equipped with information for when we meet with our pastor to discuss the "de-neofication" of our parish. (JRSA: 2/22/17)<br /><br />I will soon format this into printable form so you can download and distribute copies. As mentioned, we will have to do much of the work ourselves to see to the enforcement of the Rector's directive. J.R.San Agustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17874835056590971951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-9282015703828673362017-02-22T11:58:16.345+10:002017-02-22T11:58:16.345+10:00What is a Neocat? A new Cartoon Network show? GET ...What is a Neocat? A new Cartoon Network show? GET THAT ADVERTISEMENT CARTOON NETWORK.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-34092302942098357482017-02-22T11:53:00.730+10:002017-02-22T11:53:00.730+10:00Hey is this the recipe for foie gras. That sounds ...Hey is this the recipe for foie gras. That sounds good. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-301588845057832872017-02-22T07:40:13.370+10:002017-02-22T07:40:13.370+10:00All Judas Byrnes has done so far is ram criminal C...All Judas Byrnes has done so far is ram criminal Cristobal down the Faithfuls' throats and feed his suffering flock to the Neocats. He has to go! <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-39009961193994695302017-02-22T06:12:25.962+10:002017-02-22T06:12:25.962+10:00Sadly, the parishes with NEO Cult activities has a...Sadly, the parishes with NEO Cult activities has an RMS Pastor assigned thanks to ArchNEO Cult Presbyter Apuron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-73417832095041853472017-02-22T03:56:09.320+10:002017-02-22T03:56:09.320+10:00I agree! In fact, it is a more manageable and mea...I agree! In fact, it is a more manageable and measureable effort to protect against heretical teachings and non-adherence to the General Instructions (GIRM) from a parish level. If all pastors ensure that no heresies are taught within their parishes and see to it that adherence to the GIRM is practiced; combine the collective efforts of each pastor, then little or none of these heresies and violations will be occurring on an archdiocesan level. Basically if, each house is kept clean, then the whole neighborhood is clean.Rose de los Reyes (Seattle, WA)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-91620008482524920402017-02-21T22:42:18.990+10:002017-02-21T22:42:18.990+10:00Are not pastors authorized to implement GIRM with ...Are not pastors authorized to implement GIRM with no exception? It is time we hold them accountable for the "pastoral discretion" clause under which they need to operate. Full compliance with established rules is not negotiable. Why the foot-dragging and skirting around leadership mandates? Why the utter dependence on what CA Byrnes has to say on the matter? If the clergy expects us to toe the line on Catholic assertions, then they have step up their administrative and moral leadership.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-41327360075154563942017-02-21T19:49:07.212+10:002017-02-21T19:49:07.212+10:00Okay DIANA,...SHOW US THE MONEY!...Okay DIANA,...SHOW US THE MONEY!...JCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-12569321707727449952017-02-21T18:44:26.318+10:002017-02-21T18:44:26.318+10:00Actually the 1990 document is supplanted by the 20...Actually the 1990 document is supplanted by the 2008 Statute which gave "final approval" to what the NCW could and could not do. There was nothing after that which gave any indult to any liturgical practice. They tried to sneak i past Benedict in 2012, but he caught it at the 11th hour and gave them a good slap down. Anyway, it's really up to Byrnes now to enforce. Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01305960063884511003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-56207203775292810652017-02-21T17:19:04.656+10:002017-02-21T17:19:04.656+10:00You're in my prayers. What an awful situation....You're in my prayers. What an awful situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-65960660437707191042017-02-21T16:13:19.256+10:002017-02-21T16:13:19.256+10:00Fake News. . . NCW will lie which is their way of ...Fake News. . . NCW will lie which is their way of getting their way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-11939364359189708652017-02-21T14:00:58.420+10:002017-02-21T14:00:58.420+10:00this has been the document/reference the diana/ncw...this has been the document/reference the diana/ncw have always relied on, its the only document since the birth of the ncw that has put a positive light on them, did the ncw really think JPII, will make a derogatory comment in public against anyone, its the duty of the pope to bless all.<br /><br />The nature of the Neocatechumenal Way is defined by His Holiness John Paul II when he writes: “I recognize the Neocatechumenal Way as an itinerary of Catholic formation, valid for our society and for our times.”1<br /><br />1 JOHN PAUL II, Letter, Ogniqualvolta, August 30, 1990, AAS 82 (1990) 15Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5652940417109665141.post-77986455700271547202017-02-21T12:49:23.405+10:002017-02-21T12:49:23.405+10:00Your attention, please! Diana has responded in a t...Your attention, please! Diana has responded in a timely manner to Fr Paul's letter. Diana said 'we have the documents'. The lost has been found. 2years 68 days according to a Tim's counter. Oh, what a day! Now let's see the said documents. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com