Saturday, July 26, 2014

MSGR. JAMES BENAVENTE REMOVED AS RECTOR OF CATHEDRAL BASILICA

Note: a letter from Msgr. James has been added to the bottom of this post.
At 9:17 PM tonight, KUAM posted a story about the removal of Msgr. James Benavente as rector of the Cathedral. He was also removed from all his other ministries and archdiocesan duties. 

I just learned through another source that yesterday Archbishop Apuron had accused Msgr. James of financial mismanagement. Msgr. James asked for a list of the charges and asked for time to clear his name. The Archbishop agreed. 

However, this morning, Msgr. David C. Quitugua, the Vicar General, and Fr. Adrian Cristobal, Chancellor, delivered a letter to Msgr. James removing him from his position as rector of the Cathedral and his other duties. 


It appears that Apuron needs a scapegoat. In 2012, after Apuron tried to give away the Old Accion Hotel property to the Neocatechumenal Way and was blocked by the finance council of which Msgr. James was a member, Apuron received a note from Rome directing an audit on the archdiocese. 

The archdiocese' finances are in such a mess that Deacon Dominic Kim was heard to say at the recent meeting with the Apostolic Delegate that the archdiocese's finances were "in-audit-able". And even though the projects overseen by Msgr. James were given a clean bill of health by the Vatican-ordered audit, Apuron is blaming Msgr. James for the archdiocese's financial woes. 

But of course this is all a big lie. Apuron is continuing his war against the non-neo priests, which is exactly what I predicted he would do after he agreed to "build bridges" at the recent meeting with the Apostolic Delegate. 

Oh, and don't forget Apuron's insane jealousy of Msgr. James' close friendship with Cardinal Tagle.

People, it is now time to come out of the shadows. We must act now. Send me an email at JungleWatch.info@gmail.com if you wish to join me in a plan of action. We will meet soon. Rome will soon hear Guam groan!

Archbishop, stay tuned. We will all soon hear your nasty speech from Tagaytay.

The floor of hell, Apuron. The floor of hell. 



205 comments:

  1. I AM TOTALLY TOTALLY TOTALLY TOTALLY WITHOUT WORDS!!!!!!!!

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    1. Well I hope you are not without a name, a face, and a voice. It is time to use those. Email me.

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    2. Janet B - MangilaoJuly 26, 2014 at 11:08 PM

      My My...our Archbishop certainly has an odd way of building bridges!
      Dear Nuncio - we respect your attempt to allow the Archbishop to make things right. What you did not know was the viciousness that he is capable of. We know because we have lived under this reign of terror for 30 years. All the while praying, hoping and believing things would get better. But just over a year ago our Archbishop woke the sleeping dog.
      We have been pleading and crying for intervention from Rome. We awaited your visit with great hope. We thank you for coming to see for yourself the real situation we have here on Guam. I respect the fact that you did not dress down the Archbishop in front of our clergy or others. But you now know for yourself that the three on the Hill are capable of anything and everything.
      Rome now needs to act, and they need to act quickly, because the people have now had enough. This move against Monsignor James will enrage many many people, and we will not stop until we know Rome is ready to make a change.
      You have seen, you have waited for our Archbishop to solve the problems, and now you see his solution.
      For the sake of our Church, we implore you to act now before we act.
      May God bless you in your swiftness.

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    3. This is enough, already. Something really, really bad is going to happen. Can't be good outcome for a long time now. How can these priests of NEO ever make thier home here for life after this crisis. Let is be a lesson to the world. There is Kiko on the right waving his arms faster and faster. Look at him. He's been there for months and we have been lacking in COURAGE.

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    4. THE JEALOUSY FACTOR. POISON.

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    5. Hey, obey you people. OBEY. Don't question. Obey.

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    6. Wonder if Archbishop Martin is at all surprised??? Come back. I want to see you.

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    7. I believe he is the only rich priest that still alive on Guam with a large net worth, I believe they should do an audit on the Arch Bishop Apuron. People have the right to choose their religion, and no one should have to be force to follow. Like they say, Christ is not sleeping and Karma has no religion.

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    8. I thought that all the good of our church for our people and our Lord is to bring our church to one!!! We're to bring the lost to the found and have them understand what our Catholic is all about!!! I've always been taught that, WE'RE THE CHURCH, WE'RE GOD'S PEOPLE, WE'RE FAMILY not divide US into anything other than ONE!!! Why are we to side with others when we're supposed to be just ONE not TWO!!!! Praying hard for all the richness in materialistic items/monies/jealousy/EVIL to end for those who are rich in all those and let the poor continue to be rich in LOVING/KINDNESS/FORGIVING!!!

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  2. PLEASE DEAR LORD, OUR CHURCH ON GUAM NEEDS YOU MORE THAN EVER!..LORD, HELP US!...ARCHBISHOP RESIGN NOW!

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  3. I AM TOTALLY TOTALLY TOTALLY TOTALLY WITHOUT WORDS!!!!!!!!

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  4. Msgr James and Fr Paul should sue the Arch for defamation of character. Church members should sue the archdiocese for mismanagement of funds. For starters.

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  5. AAA plan is coming to fruition. Removing all non Neo priest from the church and replacing them with Neo priest. This is good for the 500 Neo-cats but what about the over 100,000 non Neo parishioners? Where are we going? And who is going to financially support the church when we leave?

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    1. This will be interesting, indeed! When attendance drops in the parishes, everyone will be going to Masses with the religious orders, at the Carmelite convent or the friary, or one of the few real diocesan parishes left!

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    2. Would not blame local priests to excardinate if ARCH does not go. He can never make his home here now.

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  6. Apuron's leadership style is very communistic. If you don't like someone or didn't like what they said,you simply eliminate them. Look at what Hitler did to the Jews.

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  7. Nice timing, Archbishop! Just right after he celebrated his 20th jubilee! Trust it is the front page of the Umatuna si Yu'os, this week! With all due respect, you are losing the respect of your people, the flock you were called to shepherd and most of all, your priests! If you truly are doing things in the best interest of the archdiocese, RESIGN! As your spiritual children, we implore you to do so!

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  8. How does he sleep at night?

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    1. Doesn't stays up at night spinning evil plots. Jesus, help us.

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  9. I bet you Apuron is going to put a Neo priest in Cathedral. The 9:30 mass will dwindle even more.

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    1. Invasion practically complete. Solidarity with all peoples at war and victims of evil dictators. God help us. Poor Guam.

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    2. They are all insufficiently trained. Moratorium. Rich to Cathedral.

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    3. P-I-U-S staying at residence as he always does. Crawled back here the other day will not let go of his control. MIND control. Complete.

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    4. To think Guam invaded again without a shot being fired.

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  10. ARCHBISHOP ANTHONY, MSGR. DAVID AND FR. DAVID!!! ANOTHER GUAM SON ATTACKED...MSGR. JAMES!

    WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU CAN STOOP LOW BUT THIS IS A NEW RECORD, EVEN FOR THE THREE OF YOU!

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    1. Who is Fr. David?

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    2. Anonymous (July 27, 2014 at 8:26 PM), I believe Anonymous (July 26, 2014 at 11:00 PM) actually meant Fr. Adrian — he's the only one of the Three on the Hill missing from the list.

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  11. IF the Archbishop thinks the new incoming RECTOR after he is ordained and HAROLD is his name will get the support of the strong parishioners HE IS DEAD WRONG. COLLECTION WILL BE DOWN....ARCHBISHOP YOU CAN STAND AT THE CORNER OF CHIEF KEPUHA WITH YOUR NEW RECTOR AND VICE RECTOR AND ASK FOR DONATIONS. IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF AN EMPTY PLASTIC GALLON I AM SURE WE CAN AFFORD TO GIVE THAT TO YOU. NOW I WILL SAY ADIOS TO THE CATHEDRAL AND HELLO TO WHEREVER!

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    1. Halt the ordination of the three deacons until eveything is upright and secure. STOP now, Off in September to bring more men from far corners of the earth. The older two monsignors are retirement age. The honor is no longer given. How could this happen?? How? Monsignor David, I pray for your conversion.

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    2. What a witness to other believers on the island. What a witness. Lost his mind, for sure. Someone, anyone who knows anything corrupt, criminal, in the life of Tony Apuron come forth...it is the only way for him to step aside immediately. the men in Yona must be really inspired, God help them.

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  12. My prayers for Monsignor James.

    Father Matthew Blockley.

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  13. You will now learn the meaning of arduous and painful, archbishop. Get ready.

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    1. How can anybody at Chancery go to work on Monday?? I would have to quit. No notice.

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  14. Msgr. Benavente removed as Rector ?

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  15. What are the parishes with nonneo pastors?

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    1. Toto. Father Mike is pastor. Come one, come all. No black trash bags.

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    2. Maina, Toto and all Capuchin run churches.

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    3. Ma'ina - Pale' Richard Kidd
      Piti - Father Willy
      Mongmong - Fr. Gerard
      Maloloj - Father Romy Convocar
      Toto - Father Michael Crisostomo
      Dededo - Father Dan Bien
      Yigo - Father Pat Garcia
      Agana Heights - Father Andre Eduvala, OFM Cap.
      Mangialo - Father Joseph English, OFM Cap.
      Yona - Pale' Jose Villagomez, OFM Cap.
      Sinajana - Father Gus Gumataotao, OFM Cap.
      Talofofo - Father Felix Leon Guerrero, OFM Cap.

      Not too sure about Tamuning

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    4. Let's not forget Ordot-Monsignor David I.A.Quitugua

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    5. actually mongmong is Fr. Jun and yigo is Fr. Jonathan

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    6. Fr. Gerardo Hernandez is now at Santa Barbara. Fr. Danilo Trajano (previously of Ma'ina) is now at Mongmong. Fr. Jun is still the pastor.

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    7. Tumon is non-neo

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  16. Arch hears a knock on the door. Knock knock. Who's there? Conscience. Conscience who?

    Exactly.

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    1. A=Always

      P=Protecting

      U=Unconditionally

      R=Redemptoris Mater Seminary

      O=Over

      N=Non Neo Priests

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  17. He is one evil man.

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    1. AAA never wants to take the blame. He is like Obama, he never knows anything until he reads it in the paper or hears it on the news! Such a Schultz from Hogans Heroes, "I know nothin."

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    2. Well, doesn't know too much at this point...Prez and Arch over the reef!

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  18. Our Chancery is equivalent to the German Gestapo! You three are shoving shit down our throats. What other crap are you going to shove up our asses. My hemorrhoids are inflamed and this shit being shoved my ass is making want to vomit more. You guys are triplet tyrants and we see you. GAME OVER!!!.

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  19. Like to take a look at the BOOKS of the newbie neo priests...probably can not balance personal allowance. PASTORS ....right out of junior high.

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  20. Interesting-- they already removed the video of his 20th anniversary mass from the Cathedral's website.

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    1. Are you kidding? The priceless one of Arch watching the time and fidgeting all the while? The Pastor of the Cathedral removes the Rector. OK...lets see what today brings.

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  21. Your excellency Archbishop Apuron, you are our shepherd and are leading your sheep astray with the NCW! The Church Militant, the sheep you call "evil" are concerned for all souls including yours. My wife and I will continue to pray for all neos that have been deceived, but we will stand firm against this "kiko cult" that has invaded Guam. As "soldiers for Christ" we must defend our church though prayer, fasting and charity. Charity demands that the "truth" be defended and the error exposed and expunged. There can be only ONE TRUTH, ONE CHURCH and ONE POPE.
    Rome will not send the NEO packing, that's your bridge to dismantle before mending others.
    St. Michael defend us in battle!

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  22. One would wonder who the fantastic 3 is gonna attack next.

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  23. The Triple Tyrants are on a rampage. May God forgive them and have mercy on your souls.

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  24. The parallels with how he fired Fr. Paul Gofigan is striking. Both are local non-Neo priests. Both are very popular and devoted priests. Both are charismatic. Both were ambushed. Both were called in and were read the litany of baseless and false charges. Both were fired without notice and due process. Apuron was not pastoral in both cases. Paul and James were favorites to be next bishop. AND...both stood in the way of the BIG THREE(Anthony, David, and Adrian) to mold Guam in the image of the Neo.

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    1. 11:50 pm not alot more needs be said. surreal.

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    2. I knew the big 3 when they were not "famous". Shame on them for acting like spoiled divas who think that the church is their Barbie Dream house when they can move things at will just because it's what they want. They need to look in the mirror and deep into their compromised souls and realize that they will NEVER be loved and admired and respected the way priests like Monsignor James and Father Paul Gofigan. Shame on them. Apuron is a lost cause because he had been doing these kinds of things since he was a young priest. But I knew Adrian when he was at FD. I would have never believed that he would sell his soul to the devil.

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  25. This is a disaster for Guam.

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  26. This is tragic. Please Lord. Help Guam.

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  27. It sounds like the canonical process of pastoral counseling, consultation, and notice were all violated AGAIN!!!!!

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    1. Canonical protocol?????????????? PSHAW, I say!

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  28. Make that one more nail that Archie is nailing to his coffin. There are no accusations coming from you Tony Baloney directed to anyone that I am inclined to believe. You have been caught LYING to us and you are STILL LYING !!! Members of the Financial Committee, unite in Msgr. Benavente's defense because you hold the TRUTH, Present Members, John Wisenberger and Marilyn Megofna the ball is in your court to do the right thing.You must not remain silent. Religious Groups, Clergy and Laity. Unite! God Save Our Catholic Church and Our Catholic Faith Heritage from being DESTROYED by Tony Apuron unfaithful to the practices of THe Catholic Church! We are gentle people and we are the faithful community that makes up the Catholic Church on our island. I give you NOT one penny more for misusing our donations to fund this secretive movement. You are going DOWN Tony but you are not taking GUAM'S CATHOLIC CHURCH AWAY FROM US!!!

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    1. Finance council sworn to some kind of wierd oath cannot reveal anything to anyone everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!! Drip, drip, drip...is there a leak somewhere??? I thought I heard a distinct drip. Feels like the last days of Berlin when everything was falling apart. Next Arch will be in his bunker.

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    2. @12:43 not a time for "funny" ,but did you notice you last sentence? Archie Bunker??

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  29. He is trying to prove to is no one can get him.

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  30. From the annals of Uncle Screw Tape
    Uncle Screw Tape: WORMWOOOOOOOOD!
    (British accent)
    And what news have you to report today?
    Wormwood: Well uncle, I must say I’m feeling quite jovial of my odious deeds for the past week as you can see what’s happening in our little Christian island Guam.
    Uncle Screw Tape: Awe! Yes my protĂ©gĂ©e, indeed! It was an excruciating 500 years since that SanVitoris had taken hold of our “precious”, very soon my little one very soon the day of reckoning will be upon them and they will acquiesce through our subtle ingress we’ve made with our dear friends up in “the Hill”….hahahahahahahahaahaaha!
    Wormwood: Thank you Uncle, It would be my utmost pleasure to deliver this theater of men, with all the trimmings of corruptions, calumny, defamation, accusation, arrogance, deception, Ohhh but most of an irreconcilable heart! Uncle! Our brothers and sisters below cannot wait to greet them all!
    Uncle Screw Tape: Be still Wormwood, be still, lest your premature glee disappoints you and your brothers below. We will now see the fruit of your efforts these last 30 years, when you hear the words of HIM who is the PRIZE! You can then rejoice the victory that you so persue! But be still little one be still, our brother TIME has set his hands in motion and promised not fail us.
    Wormwood: Yes Uncle...hehehe...we've had quite a year I must say! and yes! HIM who is THE PRIZE will be our greatest trophy, Ohh the heart of men are so delicate and naive with a little pride, arrogance and a kiss of persuasion.
    TO BE CONTINUED!

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  31. Who did the investigation on Msgr Benavente. Was it the Triple Tyrant? They bungled up the Wadeson investigation and it lasted more than 14 years, yet they were not able to afford Msgr James the courtesy to clear his name. AAA were you coerced by Pius the one eyed black jack.

    AAA I guess your boss Pius is here for you to rely on for guidance and comfort. Maybe you should move your ministry and the 500 neocats to Iraq so you can save the Arabs from ISIS. We the other 100,000 Catholics don't want you here to tell us that our culture is our problem. AAA is an island boy who grew up with our culture. AAA + culture = problem. Resign AAA and the problem will be automatically solved. That goes for the rest of the Triple Tyrants.

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    1. Get that Pius, the Tall woman, and Michele Italian guy off of this island now. Just go, please.

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  32. I believe it's time for the People of God to act! Do Something! Let us cry to our God for help! Organize an event and get his attention! And demand the Archbishop for proof and documents! I witness today both at the Jubilee and Fiesta that NO ONE or Rarely anyone paid attention to the Archbishop. So SAD! How can YOU, Apuron, continue to live like this. Aren't u supposed to be a Shepherd? May God Save Our Archdiocese!

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    1. Did you slip an envelope....then forget it. No special attention for you! 12:04am go to bed and next time cough it up!

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    2. Is this like a regular transfer or some kind of heavy handed removal...what is removal? Whats with getting served by the two Gestapo officers at the door?

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  33. Are there really 500 Walkers on the island? Sounds like alot. People have been slowing to a crawl. Not really power walkers.

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  34. I hope all you anonymous out there email Tim Rohr with your names. I did. See you guys soon. May God continue to guide our moves for His purpose.

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  35. Msgr Benavente is being accused of mismanaged of funds? What about you Triple Tyrants taking our donations and giving it to the RMS. you've stated that the RMS is different and distinct from the church and your name is on it. Are you stealing our donations and giving it to your organization?

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  36. This is just wrong. Monsignor James is a great man who has helped keep this Church strong! God Bless him and have mercy on these people who are trying to bring him down. BIBA Monsignor James.

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  37. We should pack Msgr's 5:45a Mass in a show of solidarity in prayer

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  38. For the sake of our Catholic Church in Guam, we pray that Monsignor James fights this removal and groundless accusations. God will protect Monsignor, as He protected Fr. Paul.

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  39. No need to email! Kenneth Gumataotao San Agustin. I'm in!!!!!

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  40. Ukraine has Putin.....Iraq has ISIS.....Afghanistan has The Taliban....Israel has HAMAS....the U.S. has Obama....Arabic Christians have the radical Islamists...Guam has Apuron. We are indeed part of the world now!

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    1. And APURON has Kiko

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    2. That's wrong, Kiko has Archbishop Apuron

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    3. Israel DOES NOT have HAMAS !!! HAMAS is a terror group totally on the destruction of Israel !!

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    4. I guess you don't get it. The latter isn't good to the former.....move on!

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  41. Was NO reason given for his removal? NO explanation at all? This is unacceptable!

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  42. Guess the VICE RECTOR is in for a hell of a week or two. Good luck, son.

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  43. HAROLD you will NEVER match UP to MSGR. JAMES! This much I will predict, the Cathedral-Basilica will be in shambles.

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  44. Diana quote of note: "Folks he (TIM ROHR) just made a bold letter post to Archbishop burn in hell 3X. Msgr.James is out and believe me not obeying also." IF Diana is a woman and not a man and not a priest, a young woman in her early twenties who has been walking for 8 years, then how does she just happen to know Msgr. is NOT OBEYING??????????? My God, Diana. Venom

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    1. Point of Clarification to Anonymous (July 27, 2014 at 1:17 AM): The quote you provided — "Folks he (TIM ROHR) just made a bold letter post to Archbishop burn in hell 3X. Msgr. James is out and believe me not obeying also." — was not made by "Diana," but by an Anonymous person who submitted the comment on July 26, 2014 at 11:06 PM.

      Yes, "Diana" seems to be obsessed with the topic of "obedience" and constantly points out how (1) being "obedient" brings harmony; (2) Fr. Paul was not "obedient" when he was told to open his parish to the NCW; and (3) the "rogue priest" (AKA "Judas Iscariot") was not "obedient" when he provided information about the secret meetings with the Nuncio to the "owner of the jungle," among others. I'm pretty certain that "Diana" considers the unwillingness of Msgr. James Benavente to rubber stamp Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron's plan to transfer RMS to the NCW as not being "obedient" to the Archbishop who, in her words, has been handpicked by God.

      I'm not sure how "Diana," who claims to be a young woman in her twenties and a co-responsible in the NCW after having walked for eight years, deems "herself" qualified to sit in judgment, but I believe we will soon hear how those who dared to speak out at the "secret" clergy meeting — Msgr. David I. A. Quitugua (the elder), Fr. Michael Crisostomo, Fr. Efren Adversario, Fr. Richard Kidd, Deacon Steve Martinez and Deacon Bill Hagen — have not been "obedient" as well. It's just a matter of time.

      In closing, I'm not sure which "bold letter post to Archbishop burn in hell 3X" the person in "Diana's" blog was referring to … Unless he/she misread (and miscounted) "The floor of hell, Apuron. The floor of hell." — a reference to the words of St. Athanasius/St. John Chrysostom, "The floor of hell is covered with the skulls of bishops." If that is the "bold letter post" to which the commenter referred, it's par for the course where "Diana" and "her" ilk are concerned.

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    2. Mary Lou. Tim already knows the next victim.

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    3. 10:56AM a majority of us do know who the next victim will be.

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    4. More than one feels he is the NEXT VICTIM. Sort of like living in Hanoi Hilton.

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  45. I spoke with Monsignor James shortly after he tried to thwart the Archbishop's plan to transfer the seminary to the Neos. He knew there would be a reprisal for his efforts in protecting the archdiocese. He knew that the Archbishop might terminate him. The news of his termination comes as no surprise to me.

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  46. Does anyone have any background as to when the relationship between the Archbishop and Msgr. James began going sour? I was always under the impression that Msgr. James was a rising star in the Archdiocese. After all, it was the Archbishop who nominated Fr. James to become a Msgr. at such a young age. It's my understanding that Pope Francis is not even bestowing such titles on young priests at this time because he doesn't want to promote clericalism.

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  47. @3:11 am: It started after Benavente tried to stop the archbishop from giving the Yona property to the NCW.

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    1. More than a dozen lawyers in the WAY. Hope they are defense lawyers. That's what they say. Not very clever lawyers to join up. But LET THAT GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  48. This Gestapo-Like behavior by the Archbishop and his cronies is destroying Guam..Archbishop Krebs.........HELP!!!!!!!!!!

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  49. I think that Canon Law protects Monsignor James from this kind of capricious behavior by the archbishop and his henchmen. I hope he gets a CANON LAWYER and defense himself. This kind of behavior should never be tolerated by the church. This is BAD as hell.

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  50. Evil has penetrated the hearts, minds, and souls of the archbishop, vicar general, and the chancellor. The Devil is having a feast on top of San Ramon hill.

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    1. A Feast of the Devil, slurp. Delicious .

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  51. I am absolutely disgusted by the bullying tactics of the Archbishop. I too have been a victim of bullying by an organization - this administration - and I know all too well what it feels like to be treated as Msgr. James is now being treated. He is a good man. The Archbishop has gone too far (of course I think that every time he does something but this time he is not even pretending to show that this is not a form of retaliation). I knew quite some time ago that the Father Paul issues was because he refused to force neo on his parish and I heard Father Patrick Garcia was next because Yigo is a big parish and the Archbishop wants the Neo forced in all parishes because they are required to tithe which means more money for the archbishop. I do not know the REAL reasons behind his latest attack on Msgr. James but I will wait for Jungle Watch to expose it. The Church on Guam is imploding and it makes regular Catholics like me so depressed. I still have my faith but my zeal for our archdiocese is no longer there. I won't sign my name yet but if you coordinate an event or protest or something count me in.

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  52. Msgr James is always welcome at his old parish of Sta Barbara, Dededo!

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  53. My family and I are regulars at the 9:30 mass at the Cathedral, for reasons that have nothing to do with the fact that that's the Archbishop's mass. However, beginning today, we will no longer be attending that mass, for reasons that have EVERYTHING to do with the Archbishop. I hope (and suspect) that once more people get wind of this latest hatchet job of the Archbishop's (as the news is still kind of fresh), more and more 9:30 regulars, like us, may do the same. The scary thing about the concentration of power and wealth in the hands of the few -- and in the case of our loal church, in the hands of ONE man, guided by weak clergy and powerful laypersons -- is that that the more they get, the more they think they are owed. But to all such leaders out there, a word of caution: NEVER underestimate the power of a People Movement. My family and I stand ready to do whatever we must to ensure that this power does not continue unchecked, and that this "leader" (in Chamorro, I would call him dungi' (or coward)) will come to realize that he can't treat his flock and his fellow shepherds this way. I smell a revolution brewing, and I will zealously take part.

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  54. Many people thought Monsignor James would become the new Bishop for Guam. He sure was on his way in that direction. This attack on him is Neo related and inspired by Satan to defeat our Church! God Bless everyone in our Church and help us at this time of need.

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  55. Don't come to Our Lady of Peace and Safe Journey in Chalan Pago, it has been neo from the very beginning just like Barrigada and Agana, I am looking for a Catholic Parish near my home, and it will be either San Juan Bautista in Ordot, Santa Teresita in Mangilao, in the meantime I go to the Friary because of the Latin Mass that I loveso much from the time I was an altar server back in the late 40s through 1958 when I enlisted into the US Army. I have been the confirmation teacher since 1997 and if the Lord is wills it I wil be there until he calls me to rest, but I will not attend Mass there unless I am withmy students on special days. I love this parish but it seems different since the neos tok over, I don't feel the "Presence" when I go there.

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    1. Jesus, God bless you. Please allow me to clarify a little. The Agana Cathedral-Basilica has never had a Neo rector and has served as sanctuary for those escaping the Neocats. Now that Msgr. James has been illegally fired, without due process and without merit, things might change for the worse. Expect AAA to appoint a Neo rector and for everything at the Cathedral-Basilica to go south quickly.

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    2. Just announced by the Archbishop himself:

      Msgr. David C. Quitugua as the newly appointed Cathedral Rector = NEO PRIEST = !!!

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    3. Monsignor David new Rector at the right hand of Arch. At his left, a glimpse of the future...Harold picking at his fingernails and eyes darting back and forth.

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    4. Oh, JOY!! Now Tim will have to update "A Neo Directory of Parishes" originally posted on 14 July to reflect that now the Agana Cathedral will have the top 3 positions highlighted to indicate "Neo priests":
      • Pastor: Most Rev. Anthony S. Apuron, OFM Cap., D.D.
      • Rector: Rev. Msgr. David C. Quitugua, JCD
      • Vice Rector: Rev. Fr. Michael V. Jucutan

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  56. Rector, Msgr. David at the right hand of the Arch A Bishop Thank you Monsignor James. at the left hand of the Rector Harold who is supposted to be in Barrigada. So he says . Seminarians help to fill out stragglers in the pews. OMG. Poor Hariold doesn't like to sing ...must be shy. Dear God. At 9:30

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    1. Yes, NEOS bused in to fill the pews at the Cathedral. Good show guys. We recognized the plants.

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  57. Soon we will have a 6th mystery in our rosaries. It will be named the POWERFUL mystery.

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    1. I understand it to be The Powerful, The Horriful and The Awful mysteries..indicative of the big three at the HILL.

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  58. First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

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  59. NEO RECTOR , but of course!!! Working at the chancery, but that is ok...working at Seminary, that's ok...off island, that's ok. Sickly, that's ok. Quiet, no charisma, that's ok. We can get someone else in November. The Neo Vice Rector will take GOOD care. Other ministries? What other ministries? You people make things so complicated. Have a nice Sunday!!

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  60. Hmm....Food for thought!!!


    The Canon law of the Catholic Church explicitly mentions as special cases three offices of rectors:
    rectors of seminaries (c. 239 & c. 833 #6)
    rectors of churches that do not belong to a parish, a chapter of canons, or a religious order (c. 556 & 553)
    rectors of Catholic universities (c. 443 §3 #3 & c. 833 #7)

    However, these are not the only officials who exercise their functions using the title of rector. Since the term rector refers to the function of the particular office, a number of officials are not referred to as rectors even though they are rectors in actual practice. The diocesan bishop, for instance, is himself a rector, since he presides over both an ecclesiastical organization (the diocese) and an ecclesiastical building (his cathedral). In many dioceses, the bishop delegates the day-to-day operation of the cathedral to a priest, who is often incorrectly called a rector but whose specific title is plebanus or "people's pastor", especially if the cathedral operates as a parish church. Therefore, because a priest is designated head of a cathedral parish, he cannot be both rector and pastor, as a rector cannot canonically hold title over a parish (c.556). As a further example, the pastor of a parish (parochus in Latin) is pastor (not rector) over both his parish and the parish church. Finally, a president of a Catholic university is rector over the university and, if a priest, often the rector of any church that the university may operate, on the basis that it is not a canonical establishment of a parish (c. 557 §3).

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  61. I will GIVE any more of my money to this church until Archbishop Apuron is removed or resigns. NEVER AGAIN.

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  62. So has Monsignor James really been removed cuz of financial mismanagement or not? Was there another reason?

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    1. Read on Diana's Blog that Aaron Q is Monsignor's BOY, what is THAT?

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    2. Msgr. James does what all good priests do. Recognize vocations and encourage them by incorporating young men as much as possible into the life of the church and letting them experience the life of the priest so they can better discern their calling. Fr. Richard Kidd is an example of someone who Msgr. James cared for and cultivated for many years. Aaron is another. The snide remark on Diana's blog is another example of KAKA. For they know nothing of genuine Catholic life.

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    3. Boy, talk about calumny...

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  63. Thats just great a probability of having Neo Catechumenal Rector at the mother chuch. It was nice knowing Msgr. Benavente . Its a sudden after his anniversary and I find the disrupting just after his anniversary and unexpected removal of his office as the rector of the cathedral-basilica .

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  64. Tony Apuron seems to be burning his bridges behind him, rather than rebuilding them. It does not make sense until you realize that he, and especially his NEO-COHORTS DO NOT PLAN TO STAY ON GUAM indefinitely!

    That is why they are removing non-neo priests from positions of authority in the parishes to be replaced by neo-castrated sheep who will allow Apuron, or more specifically Apuron's handlers, to do as they wish with the parish's finances and fixed assets without question! Once they have transferred the funds and/or the assets of each parish, they will disappear!

    Perhaps, while waiting for independently audited financial statements from the Archdiocese of Agana, we should be asking each of our parishes to make an accounting also and setting up safeguards to protect its assets.

    Stay alert, people! We are under attack from within!!

    Frank

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  65. Msgr. James Benavente is my first cousin, and they better clear his name before we all embarrass Guam, out of sheer jealousy!

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  66. Anthony is systematically turning our Church over to Kiko. Wonder what he's getting in return?

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  67. Msgr. James was removed as Rector only to tarnish his name. He was a threat to Apuron and the NCW in the event he became our Archbishop. Unlike Apuron, Msgr. James is able to make friends easily. MSGR. JAMES, WE SUPPORT YOU ALL THE WAY.

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  68. My two cents. Harold was there in the cathedral because he was supposed to be designated rector but they realized it won't cut it. So, they brought it David the younger thinking it will. Good luck with that!

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  69. I thought the military had an "AARP"....I can see the church here on Guam has on also..."AARP" - Archbishop Apuron the Reprimanding Pastor"

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  70. HEY, HEY, HEY, THIS ARTICLE IS CIRCULATING ALL OVER FACEBOOK. WHAT A WAY FOR OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO KEEP UP WITH IN THE MAINLAND. GOOD JOB GUYS, LET US KEEP THIS GOING. FREEDOM OF THE PRESS, FREE PUBLICITY!

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  71. Even with Msgr. David at the Cathedral, remember he only answers to the Archbishop is also infected with the Kikolitist disease!

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  72. The only way for the shepard to realize his flock is rattled and concerned is for the flock to stand up together and say something. Enough is enough! At a time where our Church is being shaken by the increase of other devotions, the world news of accusations of abusing priests, uncooperative disclosure of finances, removal of good priests for doing Our Lords work. This is certainly not trying to follow Jesus. He reminds me of Pontius Pilate! Archbishop Apuron you are punishing your sheep. You are starving us, we are agitated, we are concerned, and you will lose as your sheep will go and find new pastures. I beg of you to stop yours ways and return to the path of Jesus, PLEASE!

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  73. Tim, was this a result of asking the Archbishop for financial statements and he asked for the Cathedral's accounting revenue and expenses? Who runs the cemetery and gift shop?

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    1. No. This is a result of Msgr. James simply being a superior person in every way compared to His Highness Apuron. It's the same with Fr. Paul. Both are excellent priests, make friends easily, and are much admired and loved. Apuron has to go off to Europe and South America and offer foreigners goodies in order to find someone to love him...or at least pretend to. Msgr. James has been one of the quietest, most obedient, and most servant-like of priests, especially when it comes to serving the Archbishop. However, he's not a neo-kiss ass and that's what Apuron wants. So death to all who won't kiss it.

      But it's also because Apuron thinks that Msgr. James is my informant. He’s not. I’m not stupid like the ding-dongs in the chancery, and neither is Msgr. James. Because of my involvement with the gift shop at the cathedral it would be too easy to link Msgr. to me, so I specifically distanced myself from him. I even relinquished my position as the manager of the store many months ago because I knew that Apuron would come after me through Msgr. James.

      Because Apuron is not man enough to engage legitimate criticism he simply bullies and terrorizes in the name of his episcopal hat. However, this is exactly what St. John Crysostom was referring to when he said “The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishop.” It is the fate of bishops who bully and terrorize in the name of the church.

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  74. I wonder what the dissolution of the umbrella group means. Will the book store and museum close?

    These are certainly dark times where our faith must be strong.

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    1. The Archdiocesan Development Group was a separate entity set up to oversee the restoration of the cemeteries, the creation of a museum, and oversight of the gift shop. By separating these operations from the hungry hands of the chancery, Msgr was able to accomplish many things. But now that the chancery's own finances are so messed up that according to Deacon Kim" the finance officer, they are "in-audit-able", they have to put those money making entities back within the control of their greedy little mitts so they can keep the Kiko factory going. They are also selling of church-owned lands for the same reason.

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    2. Lands for sale?? Where? Bidding?

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    3. Only an incompetent accountant would say that an account is "inaudible". Dominic Kim is a payroll clerk and his incompetence will be revealed in a forthcoming litigation. So will AAA's propensity to fall into the devil's clutches.

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    4. Probably selling parcels for .10 cents on the dollar to NEOKATS

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    5. Actually. Yes. The buyer got a great deal on that last one. If you are looking for cheap land, call the chancery now. They're having a fire sale.

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    6. Chancery ASS-ets

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    7. Lady Di and her new persona of El Camino is coming at your hard, Tim. Had to make a new blog because this sh-t does not become a woman, not a man and not a priest. She'll be listening if you go on the RADIO, on the radio...doo, dooo, doo.

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    8. Nice to know they need two blogs to go up against my one. I love the fact that they can't sleep. I can.

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  75. All these neo priest are being appointed as rectum of the church because they are all kiss ass with no backbone.

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  76. This might seem totally irrelevant, but it speaks somewhat to the character of at the time, Father Anthony Apuron, when he was assigned to Mt. Carmel Church. He was not only jealous of the other pastoral staff that were much loved by the community, he was often vindictive towards them. This was a person who really did not have the Lord in his heart. He was quite vain and more interested in getting hair permanents to curl his his straight hair than to humbly minister to the parish. Our community was so happy when he left. Now Archbishop, he is even more corrupt and dishonest and yet he is accusing Monsignor Benavente of wrongdoings that he himself perpetrated. Apuron is no man of God, but a man of Satan.

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    1. Not irrelevant at all. I have received many stories of his time in Agat. I have just elected not to post them yet, and also seeking further verification. Your comment is similar to the rest. We will do what we can to save our church now. History is full of examples of lay people saving their church from careerist and corrupt clerics. But ultimately Apuron has some serious stuff to answer for in the end.

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    2. Yup, too much permanents and hair color...causes BALDNESS....to bad, nothing left to play around with Archie. Your're looking very, hmmmm MATURE!!! Too bad, not acting so, shiny top.

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    3. Thanks for comment @6:24p.m. Have heard these stories for years also. Gone, but not forgotten. AGAT.

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    4. He tried to close Mount Carmel School until the people led by a good man saved it. He then supposedly changed his mind because no money came out of his, I mean the diocese' s pocket. He planted someone to secretly undermine the efforts of those who wanted the school to succeed until she was caught and replaced. It is now an award winning school no thanks to a greedy archbishop. Apuron is the epitome of everything bad, broken, dishonest, and politically corrupt in our diocese. And shame on him/them for putting a pedophile priest among our children. Adrian Cristobal claims they were just allegations. Try justifying that to someone whose life was changed and whose spirit was murdered by a sexual abuser. Shame on them for making excuses about this criminal priest and even more so for passing him on to San Francisco instead of removing him from the church altogether.

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    5. ... and the bishop is doing the same thing with St. Thomas just like what he did with Mt. Carmel ... just sharing from what I've heard ...

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  77. Cardinal Tagle. Please hear our plea! We need help!

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  78. A sad day for our Mother Church to loose such a great leader!

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  79. I think the writer of this blog is the evil one here.

    Who lives their lives trying to destroy someone? This jungle guy here.

    What a loser. I can't believe I wasted my time reading this Gossip Girl bullshit. Get a life.

    Thanks to my mommy who taught me not to believe the devil's lies.

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    1. You not only wasted your time reading you wasted more time writing a comment. What a fool. But you'll be back. Just watch!

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    2. Not worth wasting our time straigthening the logic of this @9:57.

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    3. what the? Don't leave a comment....JUST LEAVE

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    4. 9:57,

      How old are you...13?

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    5. @9:57, I happen to know for a fact that you personally work and serve the Archbishop. The writer of this blog is courageous enough to bring the unadulterated truth to the people because you and Apuron and your corrupted group are giving us nothing but lies and defensive hostility and cover - ups for your crimes against the church and our people. Shame on. U ou will answer to Our Father on you deathbed and I pray for your soul that you will be honest when you are seeking his forgiveness in you pathetic attempts to save yourself from the fires of hell.

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    6. Hate Group, the fruits of Tim Rohr. Are you ready??

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  80. I believe we should continue to attend the Cathedral for Mass, this has been Mngsr. James home for over 20yrs. and we must not let anyone stand in our way in support of him and our Church.
    The financial team should create a new account in whereas new monies coming in will be deposited in that acct., until they can rectify. We do not need new monies to be directed elsewhere.

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      You sound like a neo... Lets's keep attending the mass (benefit image of Arch)... Let's keep giving money (benefit Arch and neo only). Whatever traitor.

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    2. Sorry, going elsewhere for Mass

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    3. Creating another account does not do anything. It is the who is responsible for the finances that is the problem and that is the Arch. Let's not try to hide behind these problem with creative accounting.

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  81. Where is Msgr going to be placed? Inarajan?

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    1. I hope so...there hasn't been a Pastor there in almost two years!

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  82. Who lives their lives trying to destroy someone? You mean like the attempts to destroy father paul and msgr James? You tell me who is living that life. Wait. You already know. Because you are here. And angry. Truth hurts sometimes doesn't it @957

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  83. The only person doing any destruction is the arch himself. In the same breath he is destroying himself. To be the most powerful man in the church on our island and at the same time be the cause of his own demise must really such.

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  84. I've known Monsignor for almost 10 years now and he is sincerely the most humble and generous priest I know. IF THE CATHEDRAL IS DOING GREAT AND NOTHING IS WRONG WHY WOULD YOU REMOVE HIM ARCHBISHOP? Let me tell you how heartbroken I am to see you do such a thing. Monsignor has not done anything wrong. He literally takes care of everything for the cathedral...it's like his baby! HOW COULD YOU DO THIS? Sorry to say God, but I do not and will not support anything dealing with the cathedral now or ever in the future until justice is served for Monsignor James. Thank God I'm done with Confirmation there at the Cathedral because I will not deal with anyone other than Monsignor James himself.

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  85. Can you imagine how his elderly mother feels like after hearing her son has been removed from something he has been in charge of for almost half his life? YOU TELL HER ARCHBISHOP TELL HER THAT YOU REMOVED HER SON AND BREAK HER HEART

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  86. Praying for all those who might lose their jobs because of the Archbishop's idiotic actions. Please pray for all of them and for their wonderful boss.

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    1. I heard John Rivera was let go too. He and his wife Abi do the 7pm choir at Cathedral for many years. I can't believe what is happening.

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  87. How does he not see how severe this removal is affecting all of us? PUT MONSIGNOR JAMES BACK! No one and I repeat NO ONE can run Cathedral like he can.

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    1. A big reason why Apuron ( he does not deserve the respect that the title commands) removed Monsignor is because Apuron is jealous of him and because Apuron needs someone to blame his financial misdeeds on. Seriously though, since when does a servant of the church drive an expensive car. Jesus was often barefoot and not carried about in a gold chariot.

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    2. The Beautiful house of the sweet name of the Mother of God...dirty and in a shambles in no time. Cemeteries all overgrown....doesn't take long....and people have to be paid just wages....can't depend on volunteers for something on that scale. Look at the Yona Seminary....overgrown and not well maintained. The LAZY men who live there like kings. Mt. Carmel Retreat Center taken over by Archbisop is already a mess down there. He is wildly out of control ....hope the Nuncio returns because there is no way he could have taken in the scope of things. no way. The Japanese went berserk near the end of the war authorities sacrificed the best of their remaining men as kamikaze pilots....a crazy last ditch effort...Archbishop lopping off heads of well prepared experienced local priests right before our eyes!!! Just going nuts like every TYRANT does at the END. Read my lips: the End.

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  88. I've heard many rumors of how awful the Archbishop was and I'm sorry to say I now believe it. Monsignor James is humble, extremely generous, and he's not an ordinary priest. He isn't "down your throat" with Catholosim. He makes mass enjoyable and enlightening. How dare you Anthony.

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  89. I can't wait to see Christmas has in store this year. Peace on Earth and Goodwill to All? Love, Peace, Joy? I am sorry, I am just cracking up after reading all the comments. This...that....this... that....OMG....what is going on? The two most common words out of all these comments are: "Archbishop" and "Apuron". And there it is, the problem and the solution together, all in one. He is the problem and the solution at the same time. His actions causes problems and his actions could be solutions, if he would just make wise decisions. After reading this even now I am confused....LOL! I hope you understand what I am trying say. Instead of trying to heal, he prefers to hurt. Makes me wonder why he still puts "OFM Cap." at the end of his name? It must just be meaningless letters because he doesn't seem to remember the meaning. St.Francis of Assisi must really be disappointed. Instead of rebuilding the church as St.Francis was instructed to do by the Lord, he is set on destroying it or remolding it into what he wants it to be. He needs to remember that a house divided cannot stand on it's own...or something like that. I just realized that his elevation to auxillary bishop was not on merit, but a reward....and maybe that's when the local church began to crumble. Instead of the Vatican choosing a new archbishop, they probably thought it was easier to elevate him than review other candidates. He needs to remember that one cannot serve two masters at the same time....look what happens. Regarding the finances of the Archdiocese....something is amiss...when one becomes defensive about such things, one is usually hiding something.

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    1. Christmas! What? No bunelos dagu? This is sad! Maybe you can serve bunelos mangglo. In English air doughnuts. Serving this is so appropriate....why? The Archbishop and his team are full of air.

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    2. Oops, sorry I meant to say airheads instead of full of air! I stand corrected!

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    3. Hey no fair! I want my bunelos Dagu after the Christmas midnight mass!

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  90. In the very rare times the Archbishop has "graced" us with his presence at our church he is so standoffish (not sure if that is even a word) and might I say rude. I have always kissed his ring as he so rightfully demands and he doesn't really say anything back. He is too busy looking mighty and powerful and important. I have never met a man of the cloth that is so out of touch with his flock. When I look at our Pope and how kind and open and compassionate and caring he is it saddens me that we are stuck with such a rude archbishop who makes you feel like he is so much better than you. Instead of walking away inspired by meeting him you walk away feeling like he is looking down on you. Msgr. Benavente would have made an amazing Archbishop who is charismatic, compassionate and so down to earth. This Archbishop makes me sick. Sorry but not one penny of what little money I have will ever go to the Catholic church again. I will save that money and instead give it personally to the homeless.

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    1. I just donated a lot of items poor elderly need and cannot afford. Personally. It was a joy. And more than I would give to Archie.

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  91. The responsibility of the finance is always with the head of any organization. You cannot transfer that responsibility to an employee, if something is awry, the head gets the axe. Therefore, you Anthony should get the axe. Stop hiding and blaming everybody under you for your responsibilities. Resign now and let someone who really cares for the flock run the church. Someone with a character like the Pope who is caring, Like Monsignor James who is charismatic or Father Paul who is forgiving. You have none of these qualities. I don't know how you became Archbishop you lack these qualities. You hide behind the chancery and you don't talk to your flock. You lack the qualities of being even a priest. I see at mass but you run out the back door after mass. I have seen parishioners ask for you and you are running out the door as if to avoid these parishioners. They are coming to ask either for confession, for guidance or just to say hi and kiss your ring. it's like you are scared of us. You don't know us and I don't know you, the only thing I know about you is that you sometimes say mass. After all this events, I am starting to see the kind of character you have and it is ugly. How many friends do you have? Are you a hermit? Don't you care for the church, the parishioners and me. It seems like you only care for the RMS and the way. All you want from us is money to fund these activities. Look at your church first. They need a lot of help both financially and spiritually. They need you. If you can't do this then resign.

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    1. I completely agree with 6:04. I wanted to say "financial mismanagement?" Coming from the people who REFUSE TO PUBLISH the financial report? Who CONTINUE TO HIDE AND SCHEME? The Archbishop, in case he has forgotten, is the Pastor of Agana, and therefore, any "mismanagement" and all responsibility falls upon his shoulders.
      As for Adrian - "financial mismanagement?" Coming from a man who couldn't even handle the smallest parish on the island? Who never issued a financial report to the parishioners? The same with David. You two are the greediest, most corrupt "clergy" this island has ever witnessed, and all for the love of power! Your jealousy of Msgr. James and everything he has done has rotted your bones. You will never match up to him. NO ONE in this Archdiocese can do what Msgr. James can. He worked so hard to rebuild the Cathedral, the museum, the cemetery - all with the permission of the Archbishop and the finance council, and you accuse him of "financial mismanagement"? and pull the rug from under his feet.
      So where is this accusation coming from? It is all a LIE!!!!!! Tony, Adrian, and David are all good at this. Lying about Wadeson, lying about Fr. Paul, and now lying about Msgr. James. Let's not forget the lie to Aaron Quitugua. What kind of men would lie and cheat and deceive the people GOD entrusted to them? Only evil men who do not have the love of God in their hearts. Instead they choose to be "in persona Satan!" Only the devil himself would refuse young men to enter a seminary; only Satan himself would treat God's priests the way this Archbishop and his minions do; only Satan would glory in the mistreatment and abuse of God's people.
      Archbishop Krebs, do you not see the hatred these men have for God's people? Can you not see what they are doing to the NON NEO clergy in this Archdiocese? More priests are targeted - more parishes - more people. If Tony didn't listen to Cardinal Arinze, what made you think he would take your advice, you who are another representative from Rome? HE DOES NOT CARE!!!!
      ROME! We cry to you for help! Hear us!

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    2. My donations will now be going to the Bantay Bata orphanage in Manila!

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  92. When will the Archbishop realize that by his actions he is dividing his own Flock. He is duty bound to pray for the Holy Ghost to give him the courage to do what is necessary to bring the Flock back together. We all Pray to the Holy Ghost that he does the Right thing soon.

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  93. The prayer service that will be held tomorrow is not for Monsignor James or Father Paul. It is a prayer for our whole church. This prayer service is meant to ask God to help the Archbishop realize what he is doing is dividing and hurting our church. The Archbishop should be leading and communicating with all members of the Church, not just a select few.

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    1. I'll be there! I promise to carry a rosary and leave my baseball bat and all sharp objects in my car.

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  94. I have sensed from 20 plus years ago when I started really noticing Apuron, that he clearly was not suited to be an Archbishop. He is not approachable, quite a cold personality, and looks and talks down at you. So what's happening now with his conniving ways comes as no surprise to me...it was just a matter of time before everyone starts realizing that he's not a very good person. His lavish lifestyle and globetrotting is so blatant and quite insulting. So shameless. He has forgotten the meaning of humility. It appears now it's all about money for the Neocat organization and its select members.

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  95. According to Canon Law, You ARE and STILL are the rightful PASTOR of the Cathedral-Basilica, Msgr. James!

    Now we must be even more diligent in ensuring it stays that way, fellow Catholics, and not with "The Way."

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  96. I wonder how David will feel a few months from now when the banks foreclose on the Cathedral-Basilica for delinquent loan payments. For 20 years, Msgr. James was successful in making the monthly payments on Apuron's loans. David is unable to do the same but being a Neo would probably be forgiven because of illness. He's pretty good at creating psychosomatic symptoms.

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  97. Archbishop you need to rethink your logic and reinstate Monsignor James ASAP! Save our Church before it's too late. It's ok to error or to misjudge. We are all human and we will forgive you. You owe it to your flock to do the right thing. God is not sleeping and justice will always prevail. God Bless The Church!!!!!! Amen....

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  98. If mismanagement was the reason for removing Msgr. James, then why is Apuron still around?
    "What's good for the goose is good for the gander."

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  99. At 2:45pm I agree-- this is evident even by his actions at Mass. He never bothers to even stand up to receive the offertory gifts. I live in So Cal now and I have never seen Cardinal Mahony, Archbishop Gomez, or Bishop Vann do this. They always stand to receive the offertory. They also stick around after Mass to speak to their flock!

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  100. Keep Msgr. James in your prayer, we still do not know exactly what they are going to do with him, where they are going to send him and the full detail of how they continue to mistreat him.

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