The only ones that prosper fron the NCW are the leaders. The followers are constantly being told that they lack Faith and that's why they have not prospered with their tithes and offerings. They are constantly being challenged to give more and see how much God loves them. When nothing happens to them, they are then told that it will happen in Gods time. The prosperity gospel is not of God but of mans evil desires. That is the reason why Diana is so clueless about finances. Sad, very sad.
Here (in Italy) there was a priest who on Sunday at 5pm celebrated the Tridentine Mass and at 8pm celebrated the Neocatechumenal "mass". When asked why, he smiled and gave an flabbergasting answer: "they [the Neo's] always give me quite a tip". Yes, Neo-money was able to corrupt a traditional "Tridentine" priest. And yes, that sin is named "simony".
This is probably one of the reasons why Fr. Adrian and Fr. Rudeeee are refusing to move on to their new assignments. They will be in assignment where there is no NCW communinty, therefore, it will be a loss of income to them in the form of lost "donation to the parish" ("tip" money) which they probably personally pocketed. I know I am speculating, but my intuition tells me that is not far from the truth.
Very interesting that anecdote, italian reader. Un saludo y grazie!
Has (Fr.) Rudeeee have a new assignment? I don't remember reading that anywhere.
*sorry, please correct: on Saturdays, not on Sundays
Mafiaso! Time to ROCK the BOAT!
pope francis was wise to appoint the tough cardinal pell to oversee the financial reforms in the vatican. but even pell had run into problems. the ncw is a big component of a money system that's ripe for exploitation.coincidentally and in contrast to the practices of the ncw and much of the guam church, i just received a statement from my mainland parish about the contributions i've given to the parish so far this year. accountability is important to the parish and so they make it a point to provide this information, which i greatly appreciate. i also know where the money that i give to the parish goes.i know this is why i've given so much more money, proportionate to my income, to my mainland parish that i ever did on guam. i sometimes feel bad about that, but frankly, it's hard to give more when you see so little fruit. apart, perhaps, from air conditioning.
I have to wonder if Cardinal Pell is concerned with the money system of the NCW, since he was instrumental in the establishment of the NCW in Australia from what I have read.
Cardinal George Pell maybe good Bishop, however he is very sympathetic to the NCW. While he was Bishop in Sydney he invited the NCW to open a RMS factory and gave the NCW a parish to run. Also if you look at one of his books (Contemplating Christ with Luke by Cardinal George Pell) you'll find Kiko drawings in it. I am not expecting too much scrutiny of the NCW funds by Rome as many Bishops have have been tricked and deceived by the NCW.
good points. the ncw has so much influence and power that even the supposed finance reformer might not even help! ughh.
Yes. Sadly Pell is a major Kiko. But at least he did the right thing when he was accused. He didn't call his accusers LIARS. And he didn't run to Papa...like Apuron. LOL.
Yes, and Cardinal Pell apparently bumped heads with Cardinal Filoni over the latter's refusal to participate in the financial reform process.I've also heard whispers that the Australian bishops are slowly waking up to some of the issues with the NCW.
Lapaz is correct. Catechists usually doesn't get money from the tenth, mainly it goes to bishop and parish, to help pay Church expenses.For current ncw expenses estraordinary money collections are made several times per year all over the world. Think about it: every starting year convivence Kiko asks for extras. There are 1.000.000 ncw members attendibg that conivivence. If each member gives 10$ Kiko can count over a 10.000.000$ yearly income. I am not considering all donations made by rich people: money, land, properties...and income coming from Kiko's activities: Book selling, painting, concerts, furniture selling....
Sandavi;If only that concept were used and applied by the neo communities of Guam, and solely for their needs on Guam, and if they were frugal, they can afford to build something nice for themselves, should being neo becomes more than a thing...As it stands now, when one looks at the outside the building, it still looks very much like a church, but upon entering its doors you're hit in the face by everything kiko, and the realization kicks in, you just entered the museum of kiko arts...Had they had faith in themselves, and faith in the concept of "build it, and they would come", the neo experiment might have succeeded, but noooooo, they just stooped to being bullies, liars and thieves...
Cardinal Pell is absolutely NCW friendly. He is one of the VIP always supporting Kiko in Domus with rabbis and different meetings and convivences, like Schonborn, O'Malley, and that one from Philipines.
Lapaz, thank you for answering my questions on the money flow. I apologize for this delayed note. It has been a busy week for me. I learned quite alot about the NCW from this and other articles you have posted in JungleWatch. It takes time to write them, and I appreciate that you take the time to do so.