Let us not forget that the KAKA filled Lead Catechist, the almighty Dungbat herself started this discussion:
DianaNovember 2, 2016 at 7:20 PM I am placing the comment made under the last OP also under this OP: According to the anonymous poster:
AnonymousNovember 2, 2016 at 7:00 PM Fact - Hon failed to remove apuron. Fact - Hon is and was removed in disgrace. Fact - Hon was not informed by way of official channels of the appointment of Byreans. Fact - Byreans appointment was effective immediately when it was announced. Fact - neither was Krebs informed, or else news would have reached HON's ears in a matter of seconds.
So Hon and Krebs were intentionally left in the dark by the powers that be in the Vatican. Not only were Krebs and Hon left in the dark, they were completely caught off guard by their superiors in Rome. This information was intentionally withheld from them. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
I wouldn't be surprised if Guam is just a stepping stone for Archbishop Byrnes. Look at the home grown Archbishop of Detroit-- he was sent to Oakland for a few years to serve as Archbishop and eventually made his way back. Byrnes was sent as a pastoral Archbishop to clean things up from an outsider's perspective. I've seen his videos and he same 100x more pastoral and down to earth than Assbishop Apuron!
Archbishop Apuron was only in love with himself. He caused alot of harm to many people in his life as a priest and a bishop. He represents the face of Satan. The question for us now is how do we heal the damage he caused. How do we reclaim peace and not allow him to continue anymore destroying our lives and the famalies around. My sister said to me the other day. are you aware most of the things we have talked about in 24 years is despot bishops. He has taken over your life. There is much healing to be done. But slowly we can do it. when I see David Lujan ready to fight for the abused I know there will be justice. And you know what not even half the victims have come forward yet.
Anonymous 5:48 a.m. I agree with you about Guam being a temporary stepping stone for AB Byrnes. Bishop Blasé Cupich was assigned to Spokane, WA for a brief 4 years after having been bishop in South Dakota and in 2014 he was assigned to being archbishop of Chicago and is about to be elevated to cardinal. Melinda
We shouldn't speak of Guam as a "stepping stone" for Byrnes. That would imply that he has voluntarily chosen this as a career move, when, by his own admission, he was not even consulted in the matter - though I am assuming he could have still refused.
Even if Guam is one of the most troubled dioceses in the world (and it is), "fixing" Guam will hardly be resume enhancement. As big as our problems are to us, in the world scheme of things, we are still relatively unknown.
That said, there is no doubt that Guam matters to the Neocatechumenal Way and all who attached their fortunes to it. And if it is true that Filoni is next in line to be pope, then what happens here the next few years will REALLY matter.
The pressure will really be on Byrnes. If Filoni is to have a shot at being the next pope, he can't be saddled with a group that has a growing reputation of giving refuge to sexual predators - particularly a bishop. Byrnes will be under great pressure from Rome to quiet things. We will be under great pressure to be quieted - not from Byrnes, but from our own.
Surely we will soon hear: you people are never satisfied, why don't you give him a chance, etc. etc. etc.
We are NOT here to "give Byrnes a chance." We are here to hold up the TRUTH whatever the cost. Shirking from that has given us decades of abuse. It's up to us whether we are willing to endure decades more.
1) The Neocatechumenal way NOT a charism, it is a heresy. 2) It is a Protestant-Jewish community masquerading as Catholic that has infiltrated the Catholic Church. 3) It is also a personality cult surrounding its founder (Kiko).
The NCW is anti-canon law. It is also against what it pretends are "its own statutes". In 10 years you are hardly started (having taken away from you all your spare time all those years). And it doesn't "insert you into" the Church except in an unmentionable fashion. I was in it 28 years so I know. Even as I appreciated the Bible studies with friends I knew previously who also joined, our PP was damaging other clergy and parishioners. LOTS of suicides AND a mysterious death later I no longer think these are nuisance eccentrics. Theft is not a fruit of the Holy Spirit, even if assisted by a DLM. Even without that, no statement it states about itself vis a vis either the Church authorities or secular authorities is true, hence it has to be regarded as operating illegally in secular terms as well as ecclesiastically completely irregular (the Vatican is, sadly, rather inured to the latter). Neither the "itinerary" nor any of the RMSs are diocesan in the slightest.
Y'all ordinary priest on Guam take heed to this comment from-Anonymous Nov. 2, 2016@10:57p.m. and righteously stand up for the sake of all SOULS, correct this comment and put and end to . This is not right nor fair to those trying to return back to the Catholic faith. Be careful Anonymous nov.2,10:57p.m. for God has no one favorite person on earth. It is foolish to USE the name of the Holy Spirit for ones satisfaction.
Anon Nov. 2 @ 10:57pm. The "Holy Spirit" you allude to must refer to Kiko & his "Neo" sympathizers holding high office within the Vatican. No matter how you try to twist things, truth will always prevail. Time will tell if Absp. Byrnes will be the right person to flush out the evil that has infiltrated our Church. May the "Holy Spirit" give him the wisdom and guidance to fully restore our one true, Catholic and apostolic Church. Ann A.
What a moron. Lol.
ReplyDeleteSorry I meant "what a moron" to the neo commenter trashing the legacy of hon. Lol
DeleteLet us not forget that the KAKA filled Lead Catechist, the almighty Dungbat herself started this discussion:
ReplyDeleteDianaNovember 2, 2016 at 7:20 PM
I am placing the comment made under the last OP also under this OP: According to the anonymous poster:
AnonymousNovember 2, 2016 at 7:00 PM
Fact - Hon failed to remove apuron.
Fact - Hon is and was removed in disgrace.
Fact - Hon was not informed by way of official channels of the appointment of Byreans.
Fact - Byreans appointment was effective immediately when it was announced.
Fact - neither was Krebs informed, or else news would have reached HON's ears in a matter of seconds.
So Hon and Krebs were intentionally left in the dark by the powers that be in the Vatican.
Not only were Krebs and Hon left in the dark, they were completely caught off guard by their superiors in Rome. This information was intentionally withheld from them.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
Like ALL neos, they live to be in the spotlight. Bunch of pee'ons...
DeleteI wouldn't be surprised if Guam is just a stepping stone for Archbishop Byrnes. Look at the home grown Archbishop of Detroit-- he was sent to Oakland for a few years to serve as Archbishop and eventually made his way back. Byrnes was sent as a pastoral Archbishop to clean things up from an outsider's perspective. I've seen his videos and he same 100x more pastoral and down to earth than Assbishop Apuron!
ReplyDeleteIf he's successful here then he'll be a big gun troubleshooter for yet another hot spot. But we are a bit ahead of ourselves; aren't we?
DeleteFrom this post of Dirty Di looks like we have RACISTS all over the place!
DeleteArchbishop Apuron was only in love with himself. He caused alot of harm to many people in his life as a priest and a bishop. He represents the face of Satan. The question for us now is how do we heal the damage he caused. How do we reclaim peace and not allow him to continue anymore destroying our lives and the famalies around.
DeleteMy sister said to me the other day. are you aware most of the things we have talked about in 24 years is despot bishops. He has taken over your life. There is much healing to be done. But slowly we can do it.
when I see David Lujan ready to fight for the abused I know there will be justice. And you know what not even half the victims have come forward yet.
Anonymous 5:48 a.m. I agree with you about Guam being a temporary stepping stone for AB Byrnes. Bishop Blasé Cupich was assigned to Spokane, WA for a brief 4 years after having been bishop in South Dakota and in 2014 he was assigned to being archbishop of Chicago and is about to be elevated to cardinal. Melinda
DeleteWe shouldn't speak of Guam as a "stepping stone" for Byrnes. That would imply that he has voluntarily chosen this as a career move, when, by his own admission, he was not even consulted in the matter - though I am assuming he could have still refused.
DeleteEven if Guam is one of the most troubled dioceses in the world (and it is), "fixing" Guam will hardly be resume enhancement. As big as our problems are to us, in the world scheme of things, we are still relatively unknown.
That said, there is no doubt that Guam matters to the Neocatechumenal Way and all who attached their fortunes to it. And if it is true that Filoni is next in line to be pope, then what happens here the next few years will REALLY matter.
The pressure will really be on Byrnes. If Filoni is to have a shot at being the next pope, he can't be saddled with a group that has a growing reputation of giving refuge to sexual predators - particularly a bishop. Byrnes will be under great pressure from Rome to quiet things. We will be under great pressure to be quieted - not from Byrnes, but from our own.
Surely we will soon hear: you people are never satisfied, why don't you give him a chance, etc. etc. etc.
We are NOT here to "give Byrnes a chance." We are here to hold up the TRUTH whatever the cost. Shirking from that has given us decades of abuse. It's up to us whether we are willing to endure decades more.
The truth:
ReplyDelete1) The Neocatechumenal way NOT a charism, it is a heresy.
2) It is a Protestant-Jewish community masquerading as Catholic that has infiltrated the Catholic Church.
3) It is also a personality cult surrounding its founder (Kiko).
The NCW is anti-canon law. It is also against what it pretends are "its own statutes". In 10 years you are hardly started (having taken away from you all your spare time all those years). And it doesn't "insert you into" the Church except in an unmentionable fashion. I was in it 28 years so I know. Even as I appreciated the Bible studies with friends I knew previously who also joined, our PP was damaging other clergy and parishioners. LOTS of suicides AND a mysterious death later I no longer think these are nuisance eccentrics. Theft is not a fruit of the Holy Spirit, even if assisted by a DLM. Even without that, no statement it states about itself vis a vis either the Church authorities or secular authorities is true, hence it has to be regarded as operating illegally in secular terms as well as ecclesiastically completely irregular (the Vatican is, sadly, rather inured to the latter). Neither the "itinerary" nor any of the RMSs are diocesan in the slightest.
DeleteY'all ordinary priest on Guam take heed to this comment from-Anonymous Nov. 2, 2016@10:57p.m. and righteously stand up for the sake of all SOULS, correct this comment and put and end to . This is not right nor fair to those trying to return back to the Catholic faith. Be careful Anonymous nov.2,10:57p.m. for God has no one favorite person on earth. It is foolish to USE the name of the Holy Spirit for ones satisfaction.
ReplyDeleteAnon Nov. 2 @ 10:57pm. The "Holy Spirit" you allude to must refer to Kiko & his "Neo" sympathizers holding high office within the Vatican. No matter how you try to twist things, truth will always prevail.
ReplyDeleteTime will tell if Absp. Byrnes will be the right person to flush out the evil that has infiltrated our Church. May the "Holy Spirit" give him the wisdom and guidance to fully restore our one true, Catholic and apostolic Church. Ann A.
Yeah I saw the IP address coming from down south who happens to be your trolls who attempt to black mail the way. LMAO. So obvious.
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