Sunday, January 25, 2015

HOW SAD

How sad that we cannot go to our Catholic Mass without being "witnessed" to by Iglesia ni Cristo as we exit, and they are there at the order of our own bishop. Very sad. Very sad. Feel bad for those kids. Here is the direct link if you are not able to view the video below: https://vimeo.com/117692828 P.S. it's not really an Iglesia group. It's the neo. Doesn't matter. Different church.


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  1. in lite of........

    If money is the root of all evil, then why do the NEO ask for it in church?

    A Catholic boy and a NEOish boy were talking and the NEOish boy said, "My NEOish priest knows more than your priest." The NEOish boy said, "Of course he does, WE tell him everything."

    Q: Why did the NEO go to church?
    A: Because you paid for it!

    Q: What do you call a sleepwalking NEO?
    A: A roamin' NEOholic!

    Q: How can you tell if you're in a NEO church?
    A: Only half is sitting, the others are in line to testify!

    Q: Why did the NEO priest giggle?
    A: Mass testimonial hysteria!

    Nothing is more exciting than when the NEO priest says "NEO may go in peace"

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    1. Lmao. Hilarious collection, I love it! I see Diana climbing to the ceiling in pain when she hears these innocent jokes. She would better get a good laugh instead! Lol. But she as all neos is unable. Zero sense of humor. ;( Let me add a few more lines here:

      Q: Why do neos come two by two knocking on your door?
      A: One of them can read, the other can write.

      Q: What is the only way you obtain enlightenment in the neo?
      A: Through flashlight into your ear.

      Q: Why would neos follow Kiko in everything?
      A: They need someone who already has a high school diploma.

      Q: Why don't the neos sing any song not written by Kiko?
      A: Because that would begin with the fourth guitar accord and they only know three.

      Q: Why do neos need admonition before Scripture reading?
      A: Because they can look but not see, can hear but not understand.

      Q: Who gives the admonition to neos?
      A: Those who cannot read the Bible, so they prefer to talk about it.

      Q: Why do neos give echo after Scripture readings?
      A: Because the housewife needs to tell her husband sometime where the salt is in the kitchen.

      Q: Why would neos talk about salt and kitchen during echo?
      A: What else to talk about? They have never seen a Bible opened...

      Q: Do neos interpret the Bible?
      A: No Way! They only interpret the interpretations of others...

      Q: Why do neos raise they voice during echo?
      A: They want to wake up the presiding priest.

      Q: Why does the priest yell his homily in the neo?
      A: He wants to wake up the attending neos.

      Q: Why do neos eat candy during mass?
      A: The Word of God might be sweet, but come on, licking something sweet is more fun.

      Q: Why do neos eat candy during mass?
      A: They become real hungry at the third hour…

      Q: Why do neos eat tic tac mint before kissing?
      A: Because the Word of God sours in their mouth.

      Q: Why do neos kiss during mass?
      A: They like tongue soup wet.

      Q: Why do neos kiss during mass?
      A: That is only a foreplay to the after mass rock party around the altar!

      Q: How do neos save the marriage?
      A: They allow the husband to kiss the flower girls during mass, so he does not need to divorce to have fun.

      Q: Why do neos sit down to consume the holy host?
      A: They are all sinners, so why not sin one more time before taking the Eucharist!

      Q: Who is Diana?
      A: Diana is the neo transformer. She is a cry baby one day, a preacher the next. A financial expert today, a police lieutenant tomorrow. She is a she this moment, but she is a he a few seconds later. A true Jolly Joker.

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    2. Q: How come neos don't carry the rosary?
      A: Kiko hasn't made one with his face on it.

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    3. Is all this sarcasm and mockery really necessary? Does not help our cause one bit! Please, let's keep comments and posts dignified!

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  2. I have to admit living in a predominately non-Catholic area, I have been witnessed a few time by the born-again Protestants but never right outside a Catholic church. Would it not make more sense to "witness" the non-practicing Catholics or non-Catholics? I have luckily never had a Catholic witness me. Catholics trying to convert Catholics - odd! Did the NCW not make their quota of new participants after the Invitation to Joy last week ?

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  3. This is absolutely the last straw! How dare they disturb the peaceful and reflective recession from our authentic and legitimate mass. I WILL NOT donate one more penny to this Archdiocese Appeal, until the Archbishop personally apologizes to all of us. This is beyond belief, and if I had not seen this video, I would have denied it was possible. Maybe we need to show our appreciation, by returning the favor they have so generously given us...It is time to peacefully and loudly show our gratitude by singing to them during their celebrations. As a clergy of this diocese, I wish I could post my name, unfortunately, we know what happens to non Neo clergy here!
    Archbishop Anthony, if you did authorize this, shame on you. Obviously you missed the entire point of us greeting you at the meeting with the Vatican clergy. We were all called to work to peace and reconciliation within the clergy. Did you in fact see our embrace as a surrender to your will? Were you told that all is well, continue to step on our necks?
    I am shocked that you, a man of learning and education would resort to this.
    When and where will this oppression of the flock you have been charged with end? Are you the "good Shepard " or are you the follower of Kiko? Did Kiko and Pius ordain you, or was it the Pope?
    How far you have fallen. In grace, in respect, in obedience, can you go lower? Not in our eyes!
    Shame on you!
    Maybe it is time for you to take your cult, and leave the one true Catholic Church, because you no longer represent the true church to the people of Guam!

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    1. They dare and we can expect them to escalate their campaign. As long as AAA is a part of their cult they will press on. AAA needs to step down and repent for his transgressions against the nonNeo Catholics of Guam. However, I seriously doubt he'll do this.

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  4. You know they are getting desperate when they have to use the kids! The teach to not let your kids become "idols", but when needed, please bring them to show numbers!

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  5. The one girl with the tambourine - I felt bad for her. She looked very uneasy, but I'm sure her parents told tell her: Courage! You are evangelizing the heathens coming out of the Mass!

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  6. We all had a chuckle today in our village parish this morning. The tall bearded neo priest lost his train of thought and had to be reminded by a small boy that the commandment regarding today's Chain of Life event at the ITC intersection is "Thou shall not kill!" Now that's sad.

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    1. Half-baked Neo priest needs to get back into the oven. LOL! I think neo priests struggle when addressing the congregation with non noes in attendance because they are more at ease when they are with their neo community. They are just going through the motions with the traditional mass to appear legit.

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  7. We were there and people were trying to get out and run to their car! Everyone felt so uneasy. It is sad they have to try and convert us this way.

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  8. I didn't know Tony Posadas and wife are Neo until now. Didn't recognize the young girl with the inappropriately short dress. What ever happened to modesty especially in church?

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  9. Wonder if this is their WAY to further humiliate Magr. James. Tony Posadas and his wife seem to be gloating!

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    1. Brother Tony, come back to NCL. The NCW I here r plane evil. U making big mistake. Not saying just to have u back, but here real serious problem with that group. Good luck. Hope u come back.
      A real brother

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  10. It looks like they're targeting St Anthony Church because Fr Paul and Mr James are there.

    Are they trying to convert Catholics? After Mass? Why not just march up the aisle? Oh, yeah. That was last Sunday! I guess they got their marching orders last night.

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    1. Yup, adding salt to the wounds and insult to injury the way they were instructed by their Neo masters. Kiko will be pleased.

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  11. did I miss something? what does iglesia ni cristo have to do with this vid?

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  12. Archbishop is telling pastors to allow time within the Sunday mass for TWO seminarians from NCW to address the faithful regarding the archdiocese appeal. If the seminary doesn't get much money from the appeal why are they the promoters and marketing agents for the appeal? Something is fishy.

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    1. Money? How about a box of chocolate!

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  13. Mary Lou Garcia-PeredaJanuary 25, 2015 at 2:28 PM

    So are these folks from Iglesia ni Cristo? OR from the NCW?

    Is this "retaliation" for the peaceful prayer service that was held at the Santa Ana Chapel in Agat the evening of Saturday, 24 January? From all indications, the prayer group in Agat kept their distance from the NCW's pseudo liturgy, unlike this particular group …

    If this is more proof of NCW's "fruits", it's crystal clear that the NCW produces ROTTEN FRUITS

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    1. Rotten fruits and rotten eggs at that!

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    2. NCW cantors and their percussionist. Could tell by the way they strum their guitars. Kiko is from Spain and he only knows how to strum flamenco style. It's their norm.

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  14. Melanie San Agustin, I have a question for you. Does your group play any songs that are not composed by Kiko Arguello, the founder of your sect? ¿No? ¿Por qué no?

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    1. I learned the Kikos also are particular on how the guitar is strummed. Woe to the guitarist who screws up as he or she will go back to square one and get yelled at. Wonderful cult to be in for guilt-ridden folks.

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  15. Melanie? Wasn't she the one who tried to tell the parish priest what to do and how to do? When that didn't work she and her husband stopped being a part of the ministry services of the church!

    Such hypocrites then! Why did you return to the ministry?

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  16. That group at SASV outside where NEO's and they where trying to recruit and get our money! Sorry Charlie we will not give in this year! It's on Like Donkey Kong:)

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  17. Catholics converting Catholics.....only on Guam!! Shaking my head.

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    1. Mis-led Catholics (NEOs) fervently trying to covert real Catholics -- I feel pity for them and will pray for them to one day rejoin us in the true faith community established by Christ.

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    2. It appears that way at first glance but upon closer examination it's about a movement within the church that's wanting to take over and impose their will while claiming to be better Catholics. Of course we are learning more and more about them and it is quite evident that they have progressed from walking a fine line to outright disobedience and disregard to liturgical norms because their leader Is Kiko (not the Pope) instructs them to conduct their celebrations according to his guidelines.

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    3. They are quasi-Catholics at best. I feel sorry for those who fail to see the NCW for what it truly is. They have entrusted their spiritual salvation to an aging self-proclaimed prophet whose claim to fame is his artwork and gathering a following from the slums he lived in. Kiko the prophet and his partner Carmen worked their way into the Vatican and courted the church leaders. What we see now is how much power and influence they gained. Guam Catholics are gaining worldwide attention because they are holding up against the NCW and indications are that the NCW will not succeed in Guam the way they had envisioned. Katoliku esta finataihu!

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  18. Bitter-Sweet Archbishop! You inherit the neo, and it's founder to abandon Jesus His True Church and flock. AAA please take time out to be alone in a quiet place, regroup yourself and in deep meditation call on the Holy Spirit to be with you, no thoughts about the way--it makes you take the back door. Holy Spirit rain down, rain down on AAA!

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    1. Maasii, Maasii, Maasii si Antonio sa a esaugui I Katolikun Guam.

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    2. The head of this Neo snake "was" an atheist. I can't believe just how bold they're being -- I hope the Apostolic Delgation accidentally left someone behind to observe the shenanigans that have occurred since their departure.

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  19. This is in retaliation for what had happened the day before in Agat at their celebration! Pathetic.

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    1. No it ain't. This is not a retaliation? I don't think bishop is a happy man nowadays nor is he at peace. He needs help? And help he will get from the Holy Spirit. Don't you agree!

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    2. They retaliate a peaceful prayer service with an obnoxious, gloat-filled Kikoncert? To borrow a line from Jose M, "Go to... confession!"

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    3. @ 11:28,

      One must first be open to receive the Holy Spirit...so not much hope for AAA. Don't you agree?

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    4. @11:28p. " ? " is a question mark = used at the end of a question. " ! " is an exclamation point = used at the end of excited statement. ... just saying.

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  20. Truly pathetic. My concern is that they may believe the end is near and the entire sect pull another Heaven's Gate comet Hale-Bopp. I truly hope and pray they will find their "way" back to the true church. (pun intended, but no double entendre)

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  21. I may be mistaken, but I believe the lady in the white top and black skirt is Fr. Luis's mother.

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  22. Life of the cult in Guam is nearing the end.

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  23. Archbishop Savio, is this what you had in mind when you said let us seek unity? Is this the intention of the church to "convert" every practicing Roman Catholic to the neocatechumenate? What further proof do you need that this cult has no intention of reconciliation, but only one of a hostile take over?
    What other reason would they have for trying to "evangelize" practicing Catholics? Archbishop Savio, what you didn't allow anyone to say was that we, the church have been seeking reconciliation with this neo bishop for over ten years, to no avail. The only fruit we have seen is that it is woe to anyone who opposes or speaks the truth of what we have encountered with this cult. What will it take archbishop, what will it take? Does someone have to be martyred before you do something?

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    1. One thing very bad will happen to someone...our island pot is boiling over. My God, someone help us!!

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  24. there is a faucet on the other side of the wall and a long hose in Sister Doris's garden.
    next time these people pull a stunt like this, turn the hose on them.
    uninvited, disrespectful and meant to antagonize or frustrate those church goers.
    as for this witness garbage during mass, that is blasphemy!
    these people are fools and charlatans, if we don't want to hear their 4th rate priests, what makes them think we want to hear them?
    can't they just go underground like other cults and do their 'thing' out of sight?

    catholic charities appeal? NOT ONE PENNY!

    and hey, in 20 years when Monsignor James took care of the cathedral, there was never any mold or black grit on the structure. are these Neo freaks too good to water blast? no happy labor from the confirmation or CCD classes?
    cut the grass on Carmen's side AAA you creep.

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  25. I understand even if you do not give to the Charities of Appeal, the Archbishop is now requiring each Parish amount to release to the Archdiocese. So if you do give they will get it from our Parish Church funds. Just so sad since I give to our Parish Church for our Parish Expenses and now the Archdiocese is tapping in to our funds. Just so sad.

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    1. AGAIN! There is a requirement for the church to fork out X amount of money. The money assessed to the Churches was based on the amount of money to defray the previous years debts and to include the X amount of money needed to cover expenses this year.

      If you cant handle to the cost of running the seminary, why bring in so many people. BTW if there is a pool at the seminary, drain the water..the rates went up! Swim in the bathtub. Shut the aircon off. The breeze coming in from the ocean water should cool the place down. Such luxury is afforded to you ALL.

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    2. Open a health club with the exercise machine. Pool, exercise and strumming guitars...cool. RMS Club kikocabana.

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  26. my home parish. sad. the strange thing about st anthony is that neocats haven't fully assimilated it even though they have an active presence there. but at the same time it also is the place of exile for frs paul and james.

    also: can't the neocats have a bigger variety of tunes? all their songs sound the same. talk about imposing their own culture.

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    1. Their songs all sound the same because that's how kiko plays them. No other style but flamenco because their leader is from Spain. What kiko wants, kiko gets. Just ask AAA. Pathetic.

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  27. sounds like the hare krishnas but that's an insult to the hare krishnas because their music is soothing and they have better manners and more respect than to squat unwelcome and sing their obnoxious, uninspiring and boring music. how about they take some religious sensitivity courses and not be so 'tafu!'

    unsure if this video is unsettling because of the audacity, the disrespect, the ignorance or lack of grace? this small passage has such great meaning:

    Christians live every day by the grace of God. We receive forgiveness according to the riches of God’s grace, and grace drives our sanctification. Paul tells us, “the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives” (Titus 2:11). Spiritual growth doesn’t happen overnight; we “grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ” (2 Peter 2:18). Grace transforms our desires, motivations, and behavior.

    i'm all for using the hose or better yet a fire extinguisher.

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  28. Sorry Tim, but I don't know where to post this so here it is.

    Last Sunday at the Chain of LIfe...I'm not sure if anyone noticed but AAA arrived and just sat under the shade waiting for the event to start....while a Deacon (sorry not sure about his name) with a cane...was greeting and saying thank you to all of us present....walking the entire sidewalk from the mayor office side while AAA was just sitting on his butt....waiting.

    When the rosary started...AAA didnt even have a rosary with him...maybe he forgot or something...but he didn't look like a bishop nor a leader that day. so disappointed with his actions!!!

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  29. There was a 'confirmation mass' ....last night at San vicente church. correct me if i'm wrong but if this is confirmation mass...shouldnt that be done after easter.....also...why was it only NEO priests were there.....I didn't see any other non-neo priests with AAA.....

    strange things are happening to the church here on Guam!!!!

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    1. Students must have been in a FAST TRACKED Class! Taya' esta arkelamento gi Gi'ma Yu'os-ta!

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  30. One of the NCW's argument for having their own form of catechesis is that they are bringing back those who left the Catholic Church due to weak faith formation, divorce, or other serious transgression. Instead of trying to recruit more members from the regular church goers who obviously already have a personal relationship with God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, THEY should go out in evening and sing outside a strip club, massage parlor, and other "sinful establishments. Some of their members are familiar with the "night life" and other shady places so it shouldn't be a problem. Just don't bother the good people before , during, and after mass! Your "In you face" tactics at church is an invitation to violence, not joy. Think about it.

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