Thursday, May 12, 2016

LOL. THIS IS HILARIOUS


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "TRAPPED!":

Tim, why is Bishop Schneider's opinion so important to you? Does he run the church and does he approve whether or not the NCW is valid or not? You call yourself Catholic? I have no doubt you are a true one. So if you are, just stop all of this and obey Pope Francis, the LEADER of the church and stop trying to be the next Martin Luther. The pope approves the NCW. If you have questions try writing to him. https://zenit.org/articles/pope-francis-backs-neocatechumenal-way-liturgy/ 

LOL. The pope, the pope, the pope. Such a freak. This is the parrot talk of the NCW because they don't really know what it is the pope said, they only repeat what they are told what "the pope said."

So let's do this again - since I already did this awhile back.

First of all the Pope DID NOT SAY that HE "approves the NCW." That is the take of the lapdog Kiko media, ZENIT, which headlined its interview with - guess who - Kiko Arguello: Pope Francis Backs Neocatechumenal Way Liturgy
https://zenit.org/articles/pope-francis-backs-neocatechumenal-way-liturgy/

This is horribly dishonest reporting and is another reason why ZENIT should be discarded as a real news source.

ZENIT begins its fraudulent article right off the bat stating: "The Vatican Secretariat of State sent a letter on April 3rd from the Holy Father to Kiko Argüello. ZENIT wants the reader to think that Kiko received a letter from the pope personally delivered by the Vatican Secretariat of State.

LOL. These Kiko's and their lies, and so easy to prove.

Here's the background. After Kiko got the crap kicked out of him by Pope Francis on February 1, 2014 in front of several thousand followers - emboldening bishops and pastors around the world to stand up to Kiko's bull___t - Kiko went sniveling and sobbing to Pope Francis for a pat on the head in a letter to the pope dated March 15, 2014.

By the way, if you want to know why Francis kicked the crap out of Kiko, you have to know what Kiko did to the Pope first. He made the Pope sit in a chair while Kiko yelled at him for twenty minutes in front of 12,000 neocats.


Watch the video here.


Kiko received a reply to his March 15 letter, BUT IT WAS NOT FROM THE POPE. It wasn't even from the Vatican Secretary of State - as the lyin'-ass ZENIT said.

The reply was from Archbishop Angelo Becciu. And who is he? 

Becciu is the "Substitute for General Affairs to the Secretary of State." This is where general "to do" matters, not rising to the level of importance to be addressed by the secretary himself, are sent. Thus, the title "General Affairs."

So Kiko's little cry-baby diatribe didn't even reach a level of importance to reach the desk of the Secretary of State let alone the pope - as Kiko and Zenit want you to think. 

Let's go ahead and read the full letter from "the Substitute."

From the Vatican, April 3rd, 2014

Most Esteemed Sir

Mr. Francisco ARGÜELLO,

With a respectful letter of the past March 15th, you expressed to the Holy Father your grave concern because some people interpreted a quote from the discourse of the past February 1st in a negative way towards the Neocatechumenal Way; there, where His Holiness said that, at times, it would be better to renounce to live in all its details what the itinerary of the Way would demand, in order to ensure unity among the brethren who form the one ecclesial community.

I have to assure you that Pope Francis has considered carefully what you explained and wishes to confirm, as he has already expressed in the context of the Audience and of His Speech on February 1st, His paternal closeness and His loving encouragement to you and to all adherents to the Way.      

The Holy Father does well know the evangelizing dynamism of the Neocatechumenal Way, the experience of authentic conversion of life of so very many faithful, and the fruits of good generated thanks to the presence of the communities all over the world. His Holiness is convinced that the words above mentioned, which aimed to underline the need to safeguard the precious good of ecclesial communion, do not lend themselves to misunderstandings, above all because they are valid for any form of Christian life.

Such words do not in any way modify the Statutes, rather they confirm them: as far as it pertains to the celebrations of the Paschal Vigil and the Sunday Eucharist, mentioned by you, articles 12 and 13, read in their entirety, constitute therefore the regulatory charter of reference.        

As the Paschal Solemnities approach, Pope Francis assures His closeness and His memory in the Lord and, while he asks to persevere in prayer for His universal ministry, He sends from His heart to you, to the International Team and to all the adherents to the Neocatechumenal Way, His Apostolic Blessing.

With feelings of profound esteem and a heartfelt greeting in the Lord.

                                                                                         + Angelo Becciu

                                                                                          Substitute      
https://zenit.org/articles/archbishop-angelo-becciu-s-letter-to-kiko-arguello/
First, notice, that there are NO personal words from Francis himself, just a message to be relayed. So it is NOT a letter from the pope.

There are the normal pastoral niceties that the Pope says to everyone, but now let's look at what  the pope said specifically about the NCW's liturgy. Here it is:
"...articles 12 and 13, read in their entirety, constitute therefore the regulatory charter of reference."
Only the idiots over at Diana could interpret this to mean anything other than a strict order to Kiko to stay within his statute. Thus the reference to the precise articles which govern the liturgy and the emphasis that these articles comprise Kiko's "regulatory charter of reference."

In other words, "STOP BOTHERING ME, ARGUELLO. YOU HAVE YOUR RULE BOOK. FOLLOW THE DAMN THING!"    

The Kiko's go all gah-gah over the fact that there hasn't been an overt slap down from the pope ordering them to stop trespassing their own statute, but that's because they are children, and children need a spanking in order to understand not to "go there."

The pope is trying to treat Kiko like an adult. Like a good father he is giving him (and his vile spawn) time to grow up. But like Henry VIII and Luther (ironic that I would be accused of being him), Francis will see that his waiting will be to no avail. Like Henry and Luther, Arius, Pelagius, Nestorius, and all the others, in the case of heretics, the glorification of self eventually trumps the good of the Church.

And soon, what is happening on Guam, will cause someone in Rome to finally slap this pathetic Spanish mosquito.


12 comments:

  1. Tim, your last comment is hilarious! Rome can use the fact that the zika virus is dangerous and they are preventing the spread of the contagion.

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  2. Bishop Schneider's opinion matters because HE FOLLOWS THE POPE! He knows what the Magisterium teaches and he does not add, subtract or deviate from it, unlike kilo arguello and his band of purchased bishops and cardinals.

    Bishop Schneider would be tantamount to an independent scientist doing research for the science itself. Kiko's bishops are comparable to researchers conducting studies paid by Merck Laboratories. They seek results favorable to the drug company, and cease/redirect the research when the direction does not follow the desired results.

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    1. @Teri U So you are saying that Arguello purchased these bishops and cardinals. watch that video. if the pope really didn't want the NCW, he wouldn't have given his blessing to the mission families. OHH wait... you know everything right? so the pope may be KIKO PURCHASED TOO?!?!?!

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    2. This is the problem with you imbeciles. Because the pope doesn’t publicly spank you, because the pope does what the pope should do which is to encourage, and because the pope does not want to scandalize most of the innocent, you think that this is some big smooch on your silly little way.

      You sad people only know the history Kiko gives you. Pius the V cried tears over Henry 8’s defection giving him every opportunity to return to the Church even after it was clear that Henry was going to turn against him. The same with Luther. The church spent years quietly trying to turn Luther around, trying not to scandalize the little ones.

      Francis is doing the same. It is clear in his last three addresses to the NCW that he knows there’s a problem, but like a good pastor he is offering words that he hopes will lead to self-regulation, discipline, and obedience. Sadly it will be to no avail.

      The bishops and cardinals in the video are in the video. It doesn’t mean that they know anything except for the few who are really kilo’s like Cordes and Rylko. Bishop Schneider is not an outsider. He was the NCW’s episcopal delegate in Kazakhstan for several years. Per his words he “assisted their Masses and meetings and read the writings of Kiko.” And he calls Kiko and his Way a Protestant-Jewish heresy with a Catholic decoration.

      You are unable to refute this claim by presenting evidence from Kiko’s teachings. Your only reply is what we always get: numbers, pictures, nice words from the pope that are twisted into official approval the way Kiko and Zenit did in the above post.

      So since you are unable to present anything of substance, we are free to believe whatever we want about your Way. And we believe exactly as what Schneider says: it’s a heresy. And we don’t have a problem with that. Go have your heresy. Just stay the hell off our pulpits. Go and be really missionaries. China awaits. What the hell are you doing here!

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    3. lol So where is that one document where the POPE himself says its a heresy Tim? and what about China?! you wouldn't have the courage to even do what half these mission families do, which is leaving their country and their families (non-immediate) to spread God's word! let alone even going out to protest yourself ! but your probably going to make excuses for that as well. KNOCK US OUT LOL

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    4. LOL. There's anonymous lecturing me about courage. Knock us out, Anonymous. Courage.

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    5. lol and you wont even answer the question. you only INTERPRET what the pope says. YOU DONT have it in clear writing either that it is a heresy. so provide that document saying it is! and see excuses again ! cant even answer the question. lol pathetic.

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    6. Oh yawn. Haven't you read DIANA. No documents are necessary. My catechism said so, coward. Come back when you grow up. Bye.

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  3. Palmada del mosquito. Slap him already!

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  4. A lady told me of an incident when a woman got up at one of her parish’s catechetical meetings, and berated the group of non-Neos who were there why they are “persecuting the NCW” when every Pope since JPII to Francis had APPROVED the NCW. Unfortunately, the pastor of her parish did not stand up in defense. I presume his silence is because he himself did not know the history (the “ins-and-outs”) of the Way.

    I told my lady-informant that this is an old story that the NCW adherents have been told to parrot whenever they are “attacked” – deflect, lie, and deflect again. It is their MO. I will bet you a dollar to a dime that the woman antagonist doesn’t even know which pope said what. And it is easy enough for them to sound convincing – to the uneducated. Who would question it if the popes said so, right? But try to ask them to identify which pope said what and where, and where can I find that document – and you got ‘em cornered. They don’t know! They are only parroting. Witness the testimonial of Gieuseppe Gennarini on K-57 radio. Hadn’t we heard that same story over and over again from our local breed of parrots?

    Information and knowledge of the truth is our biggest weapon against them. That is why I encourage everyone to READ THOROUGHLY the blog that Tim just posted. Read, and listen especially to the links Tim has provided to get “first-hand” info, and to be personally convinced; don’t just parrot what you hear/read.

    Quote Pope Francis’ lecturing of several thousand Neos at the Pope Paul VI Hall at the Vatican on February 1, 2014: “… the Catholic Church’s overall unity is more important than the details of their own practices… that the freedom of each person must not be forced, and you must respect even the possible choice of those who decide to search for other forms of Christian life outside the Way…Communion is essential… Sometimes it might be better to renounce living what your path calls for in all its details for the sake of guaranteeing unity (i.e. One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church)… The movement’s Saturday evening liturgies, celebrated in small groups around a table as if it were Jesus’ banquet, have been a source of concern among bishops (unfortunately, not ours) who find such practices confuse the faithful. The Vatican has yet to approve the liturgical practices… Francis also told the groups’ members … to pay attention to cultural differences when they go about seeking converts…”

    Then speak of the total disrespect Kiko showed Pope Francis when he had the Pope wait while he lectures him of the virtues of the Way. See the link on Tim’s blog. This is classic of total disrespect of the Pope!

    Then speak of Cardinal Arinze’s admonition to the NCW that it is Pope Benedict XVI’s explicit wish that they adhere strictly to the liturgy and Rubrics of the Roman Missal in the celebration of the Mass.
    These are hardly a carte blanche Papal approval of the Way! (jrsa: 5/12/16)

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  5. For the love of all things holy people the Pope DID NOT authorize your so-called services!!! Listen to what he has been saying ... He is gently scolding you all to not be a divisive force in our churches. Yes he blesses your missionaries of course! He has to! It's the right thing to do for those innocents going and spreading the Good Word. But he is also reminding your higher ups to be cautious ... Be very very cautious. It's a gentle politically correct statement to give. Now shoo and go away. Drink your koolaide, bang on your tambourine and dance naked under the full moon light or whatever crap it is that you do. Peace.

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  6. No wonder Kiko was so interested in the writings of Rene Girard on Mimetism.
    I think he figured it out pretty well, since most of his followers are aping, and parroting whatever Kiko or any of his Catechists are saying and doing.

    This is a scary world of zombies just re-playing whatever they have been fed, like little robots, unable to think about anything outside of what their program wrote.
    Sad, sad, sad!!!!

    A scary parallel world of

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