Tuesday, October 3, 2017

PDN: VATICAN DECIDES


http://www.guampdn.com/story/news/2017/10/02/byrnes-tribunal-re-apuron-verdict-sentence-but-waiting-archdiocese-say-sure-whether-apuron-guilty-no/721815001/

19 comments:

  1. How long, O LORD? Will you forget me forever?
    How long will you hide your face from me? (Psalm 13:1)

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  2. Janet B - MangilaoOctober 3, 2017 at 12:23 PM

    Apurun already knows the verdict, for sure for sure! As a matter of fact, we all already know the verdict. But we will have to wait until the ink is dried before Rome will share its findings.

    That Apurun is guilty of sex abuse is already known, but it should be interesting to see what they have found on all the other stuff he has been doing as the only unmonitored CEO on Guam.

    Will the Vatican address his dealings with priests and with Church assets? If they want a poster boy for what a bishop in the Catholic Church should NOT be, then they will throw in the works. It would be a good learning lesson for every other unscrupulous leader, and anyone prone to temptation.

    DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU is what a guilty on all counts would mean. Or Rome could take the easy road and just nail him on his perversion.

    Most of us would just like the matter to go away and never have to utter the name Apurun again. But I hope the Church shows it is serious about cracking down on the sense of entitlement a lot of these bishops have developed.

    Last real question is whether Apurun will finally enter into settlement talks once the verdict is made public, or will he fight to keep his ill gotten fortune and completely disregard the victims he ruined? Based on who he is my bet is he goes for the money rather than doing what is right. That has been his track record so far.

    But if he has had a true conversion of heart and finally gets to the point of remorse, he will release his estate to the settlement to atone for who he has been.

    Regardless, Archbishop Byrnes, our true leader, has called for a year of reparation, so we all need to pray for all victims...those who have come forth, and those who continue to suffer in silence. We are praying for you!

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  3. Apuron Guilty is a better headline. Even better would be "Introducing Apuron, Inmate #365-666"

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  4. It could be just a coincidence, but the timing of the La Stampa fairy tale portraying Apuron as a victim to preserve the Neocatechumenal Way, may be a reaction to leaked information about the decision in Apuron's Vatican trial.

    Only time will tell, we wait patiently.

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    1. Rose de los Reyes (Seattle, WA)October 4, 2017 at 3:13 AM

      That thought occurred to me, too, Anon 1:50. One because of the timing of the release of that article. Second, I characterize that La Stampa article as one of the NCW’s tactics to discredit the eventual canonical trial’s findings --- even before the findings were made public. It was as if the article was an advance response. If the conclusion were favorable to Apuron, there wouldn’t have been the need for Pius-the-Putrid and La Stampa to publish such a self-serving article void of supporting documentation and named quoted sources that have direct knowledge. It was a fictional story, more of how Pius-the-Putrid would have liked the story to have been, rather than the truthful reality that the local Church and the local faithful lived through for thirty years.

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    2. Should Apuron be found guilty, it would be the basis of the NCW battle cry, severe persecution of Bro Ton, and the NCW in hostile Guam Church.

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    3. Hello anon @ 9.51. They do not need for Apuron to be found guilty. This is what they already claim.
      Actually this is the main idea behind la Stampa fairy tale, which basically took Pius arguments point by point

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  5. Let this apu-run nightmare be some sort of a “caveat emptor” for future church leaders. This social climber was able to get away with much because of unbridled deference to clergy. “Trust and verify” ought to be a fundamental principle in our dealings with diocese/parish leaders, otherwise we will revert to square one. At present, a huge number of clergy are not held accountable for blatant aberrations and managerial abuses. The parish and financial councils must be the compass to prevent further destruction of the Church and its patrimony. The finances, for instance, are money held in trust from, by and for the people. A clergyman who uses these funds for personal enrichment and a superfluous lifestyle is a thief and a criminal.

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    1. You are making excellent points anon @3.58. These are major existential issues for the future of the Church on Guam.
      Unfortunately Apuron did not only allow a virtual take over of the diocese by the neos, he also de facto allowed many less than stellar priest to do almost whatever they wished. We basically had a vacuum of leadership that lasted 30 years.
      I know from reliable sources that there are several measures in the work to address some of the more egregious issues.
      Of course reversing and normalizing 30 years of absent management, is not a small feat in any way.

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    2. You still have to deal with the clericalist mental defectives who paid pervert Apuron a fortune to rob the Archdiocese blind for 30 years. They're still in business and as dangerous as the Neos.

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  6. How long would it take to get the required signatures? In this day and age of FedEx, UPS, etc. and considering the importance of this case, I would think it shouldn't take more than a few days to a week. Unless there's something or someone else that would enter the picture after the signatures are obtained.

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    1. Yes there is someone else who has entered the picture: the Kiko machine with his willing servant the Red Pope.

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    2. Tim, are you saying that the Red Pope can still do something about the verdict reached, even after the verdict has been confirmed by the judges? Also, who will determine the sentence to be served by Apuron?

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  7. Frenchie can you specifically mention those issues please.

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    1. Yes anon, I can. You will have to wait next week.
      I am on the road right now

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  8. Cut the crap, Frenchie and state your case. "On the road" or not, you obviously have access to some type of computer.

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  9. CDF is delaying announcement of the verdict on Apuron until they're sure all of the Vatican's ass-covering cards have been played. If there's a way of evading admission of guilt, the CDF will find it.

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    1. We are seeing the last stages of Apuron playing his "no one can get me" card.

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