Friday, June 6, 2014

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Let's first reread some choice lines from Diana's Blog. The context is here. The original is here.

DIANA: "All I said is that Kiko was invited to the Phiilippines by the Cardinal."

DIANA: "the Pinoy Catholic website only VERIFIED what I stated.....that the Cardinal DID invite Kiko."

DIANA: "...what Tim is saying is that he has more INSIDE information about their cardinal in the Philippines than the Pinoys (Filipinos) who actually live in their own country. Clearly, this does not sound like a man who is willing to listen."

ANONYMOUS TO DIANA: "Tim Rohr is carelessly looking for a flaw. I hope the guy don't get a stroke swinging at the air. His audience don't realize little by little he is punking out."

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P.S. Diana "herself" told us where the lie originated

"Kiko Arguello will be visiting the Philippines. It is not yet in the news report that after the Philippines, he will be visiting Japan. We know because we received the word from Kiko who told it to the Archbishop and the Team Catechists here in Guam. If you do not believe me, that is not my problem."

206 comments:

  1. Well worth the wait, Tim . What next?

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    1. Just sit around and wait for the next lie. It'll come. Peace.

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  2. OKAY all you Kikio's....Pleeeeeaaaaassse entertain us with your BS response, lies, spin, etc.

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  3. Good for His Eminence!

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  4. There it is folks..the whle truth and nothing but the truth!

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  5. DiAAAAAna, where are you? Cooking supper?

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    1. Diana, face up. The longer you wait, the harder it will be.

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    2. I hope she likes the taste of eating crow!!!!!!!

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  6. Shall we all go to the airport to meet the pilgrims? Bongos and all?

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    1. They might not come back.

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    2. Maybe they will all follow kiko on his "victory tour" to Japan.
      I hear all the bishops love him just as much there as in the Philippines.
      LOL

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  7. I assume that the "existing disputes" that the Cardinal refers to are disputes raging about the NCW in the Philippines, not here. That he would even mention them in a letter to a layperson is telling.

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    1. I think it is more about "existing disputes" with the NCW in Guam. That would make it even more telling.

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    2. I noticed that as well. I do not think that the Cardinal is as interested in the goings on here on Guam. He has to be speaking of the RP. For him to include that sentiment is very foreboding for the NCW.

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  8. The letter was dated May 29th. That was over a week ago. It was an official letter and sent to the Umatuna. Therefore, the archbishop was aware of this letter since May 29th and yet didn't do anything to apologize to Cardinal Tagle. Very very very sad and shameful.

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    1. As I said, the Archbishop is going to let Jennifer take the fall. And she'll just count it as persecution.

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    2. As a norm I defend the archbishop. Having read the cardinals letter now I can no longer support these lies. Hope he reads this page.

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    3. Cardinal tagle letter forged. Do not believe.

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    4. Surely it was written by a ghost writer. And not someone else but a real ghost.

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    5. Yes, forgery. How could Tim get that? Impossible.

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    6. Yes, anon of 6:01pm . . . the letter was forged in the fires of truth!

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    7. Forged? Then let Tony Diaz and Sister Miriam come out and say so! They got a copy too!

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    8. Yes they have a copy, but they have no guts. Don't try spin to spin this letter as false unless they come out. The spinning and denials have begun.

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  9. Tim,

    Thank you for standing up to the Truth and exposing the LIE. God bless you.

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    1. I can expose the lie, but only "the people" can hold the Archbishop responsible for it. It's up to you. I'm just the messenger.

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  10. God Bless Cardinal Tagle.

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  11. I haven't seen the latest Umatuna yet, but with the publication of the letter here on JW, are we to assume that a retraction did not make it to press? Yikes!

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    1. You've got that right, Anonymous (June 6, 2014 at 5:42 PM). Tim Rohr gave the Archbishop every opportunity to issue an apology and/or retraction in the U Matuna Si Yu'os. The only reason Tim has released the letter via JungleWatch is because the Archbishop FAILED (once again) to do the Right Thing.

      Like 5:16 PM, I'm interested to read what the Kikos, Kiko-bots — and yes, even "Diana" — will have to say, how they will spin this letter.

      Thank you, Tim, for revealing another morsel of TRUTH, a concept foreign to the Three on the Hill.

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    2. Morsel?? This is a chunk big enough to choke on.

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  12. One view just now from Makati

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  13. Mr. Tim Rohr. Congratulations for standing up for truth honor and integrity. Now we know the truth from the cardinal himself. What a bomb . We must never trust archbishop Apiron again.
    To those who have accused Tim and others of lies should be ashamed.

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  14. This is messed up man. Archbishop, stop embarrassing us.

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  15. Thank you Tim for leading us to truth. You are an inspiration for Guam.

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  16. As steadfast as the neos and kikos are in defending their cult, this has got to hurt like a hard gut check. Especially to those who fought tooth and nail insisting that the Cardinal invited Kiko. If I were them, for me it's now time to start questioning every thing that comes from the lips of a kiko but is not documented in writing. I hope the innocent neo-ites see that they were manipulated by their catechists and responsibles.

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    1. Let's see if ZENIT reports this one.

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  17. Lost respect to Arcbisnop as read the cardinals letter. Will never trust him, Jen, or tony again. They bring shame to our island hom of Giuam. Ashamed of archbishop.

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    1. I think we can give Tony some room. He is too smart not to have known what would happen should the story prove false. Perhaps he let it through so that THIS would happen. He's probably just as trapped as everyone else at the chancery, and probably sick of it.

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    2. I think Jennifer, Tony and Sister Marian are clearly patsies. I would be embarrassed to be them, but there are greater more influential forces at play here.

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    3. Diaz or Apuron?

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    4. None of the chancery knows yet, they don't read jungle watch. ; )

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    5. I just realized that the Archbishop did not receive a copy of the Cardinal's letter — only Tony Diaz and Sister Marian are listed as having a copy furnished to them — so I guess the Archbishop can claim that he knew NOTHING about this letter.

      I can actually imagine the Archbishop going around just like Sergeant Schultz on Hogan's Heroes, saying: "I hear nothing, I see nothing, I know nothing – NOTHING!!"

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    6. Sr Marian on Mercy retreat.

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    7. Retreat over today!

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    8. I asked for moratorium on Neo ordinations on JW months ago. Now I hope for moratorium n the whole itinerency, movement, or CULT. NOW,

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    9. Janet B - MangilaoJune 6, 2014 at 11:07 PM

      no pass for sr marian. her retreat ends today, yes, but she wasn't on retreat when the letter from Cardinal Tagle arrived.

      sad that now shame has been brought upon the entire U Matuna staff.

      way to go Archbishop, more lives injured because of your actions!

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    10. Publisher: Most Reverend Anthony Sablan Apuron, O.F.M., Cap., D.D.
      Director: Sister Marian Arroyo, RSM, Division of Pastoral Ministries
      Interim Editor: Tony C. Diaz,
      TODAY TONY Diaz listed as EDITOR , Sr. Marian Arroyo RSM removed.

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    11. Anonymous (June 7, 2014 at 3:03 AM), I don't know which edition of the U Matuna Si Yu'os you are referring to when you posted "Publisher: Most Reverend Anthony Sablan Apuron, O.F.M., Cap., D.D.
      Director: Sister Marian Arroyo, RSM, Division of Pastoral Ministries
      Interim Editor: Tony C. Diaz,
      TODAY TONY Diaz listed as EDITOR , Sr. Marian Arroyo RSM removed."

      I don't know when the last time Tony Diaz was "Interim Editor" — how far back did you have to look for that title?

      As in months past, the 8 June Edition shows:
      PUBLISHER Most Reverend Anthony Sablan Apuron, O.F.M., Cap., D.D.
      EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: Sister Marian Arroyo, RSM Division of Pastoral Ministries
      EDITOR: Tony C. Diaz

      Please note that Sister Marian's name hasn't been removed from the Editorial Staff.

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    12. Mary Lou, check both places listed on Archdiocese site. Could just be messed up . Think Sr. marian executive director.

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    13. Also meant to say, Mary Lou...that was copy/ paste from site. Thanks.

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    14. (Anonymous June 8, 2014 at 3:10 PM/3:11 PM), thank you for your clarification. I thought you were referring to the hard copy of the U Matuna Si Yu'os; I did not realize you were looking at the information from an online source.

      According to http://www.aganaarch.org/diocesan-offices/diocesan-related-offices-agencies-ministries/ Sister Marian and Tony Diaz are listed as "Director" and "Interim Editor," respectively.

      The page http://umatuna.org/about/mission-of-the-umatuna lists Sister Marian and Tony Diaz as "Director" and "Editor" respectively.

      I'm not sure why the online version(s) and the print version of the Editorial Staff of the U Matuna Si Yu'os differ, but in the online versions I was able to find, Sister Marian Arroyo was listed as "Director" while in the hard copy her title is "Executive Director."

      Could you please provide the site from which you copied and pasted the information in your comment? Somehow I missed that site. Thank you.

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    15. EDITORIAL STAFF
      The Office of the Umatuna Si Yu’us is located at the Chancery
      196 B Cuesta, San Ramon Hill

      Tony Diaz, Editor
      (671) 562-0065
      editor@umatuna.org
      Sedrick Serisola, Graphic & Production Designer

      Doris Pablo, Business Manager
      (671) 562-0062
      dpablo@umatuna.org
      John Joseph Bautista, Sales & Marketing Executive
      (671) 562-0063
      jbautista@umatuna.org

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    16. Archdiocese site
      U Matuna Si Yu’os, Catholic Newspaper of the Archdiocese

      207 Archbishop F.C. Flores Street, Hagåtña, Guam 96910

      Publisher: Most Reverend Anthony Sablan Apuron, O.F.M., Cap., D.D.
      Director: Sister Marian Arroyo, RSM, Division of Pastoral Ministries
      Interim Editor: Tony C. Diaz,
      Graphic & Production Design: Sedrick S. Serisola
      Business Manager: Doris Pablo
      Sales & Marketing: Breeana Quitugua

      Tel: (671) 562-0065
      Tel: (671) 562-0063
      editor@umatuna.org
      www.umatuna.org

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  18. My God what have you done archbishop Apiuron . Where is your integrity?

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  19. Hard evidence of the manipulative methods of the NCW cult. This outright deception begs the question, what other events have been twisted to further their agenda?

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    1. Let's not lose sight of the reason for the pilgrimage...vocations . There's a lot to be sorted out there!

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    2. Anonymous (June 6, 2014 at 6:14 PM), something tells me that the real reason for the pilgrimage was more about getting "up close and personal" with Kiko, Carmen and Fr. Mario and much less about vocations.And even less about evangelizing in the streets of Manila.

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    3. Anonymous (June 6, 2014 at 6:14 PM), something tells me that the real reason for this pilgrimage was much more about the hope to get "UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL" with Kiko, Carmen and Fr. Mario, not so much about vocations … and even less about evangelizing through the streets of Manila per the Deleted Article. The Archbishop and his fellow travelers were thrilled at the prospect of seeing Kiko, et al. in person ― and maybe even touching them (or their garments)!

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    4. Oh yeah. The youth of Guam will be evangelizing the youth of Manila at the Makati Shangri La. Isn't that where all the youth who need Jesus hang out?

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    5. Mary Lou, maybe by touching their garments they are expecting a miracle. Can you imagine Kiko and his team to include Father Pius in a private meeting preaching to Tagle using their diagram!!!!

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    6. Mary Lou, you are right. That was not about vocations for the Guam ncw.hierarchy and entourage; as for Kiko, he saw an opportunity to schmooze with the Metro Manila clerical team planning the January visit of the Pope to Manila and to pave the way for acquiring assurances that kiko would be up front and center, along side the Pope for photo ops, fabricated approval ops, more lies ops.

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    7. Janet B - MangilaoJune 6, 2014 at 9:27 PM

      Sad evidence that the moral decay of society has reached the very top level of our church. For almost a year now a few people have doggedly been harping on the Archbishop and his "group". But now we have a watershed moment.

      Proof positive of the evil that has invaded our leadership.

      What is even worse, they were absolutely caught in the lie and called on it by His Eminence Cardinal Tagle. He was very kind and pastoral but the message was clear...he did not appreciate being used for Kiko agrandizement. His stated concern at the end was to put an end to the existing disputes.

      Your Eminence, we thank you for all your efforts and we apologize that you were so disrespected by our Archbishop and leadership.

      How did the Archbishop and his team react to the Cardinal's effort to clear the record? Acting like 8 year olds, they tried to keep it quiet, hoping nobody else would find out. They could have stopped the dispute more than a week ago, but no, they chose to do nothing.

      The good Cardinal tried to save the Archbishop and the Church on Guam massive embarrassment by going to the source of the problem to allow them to retract. And the Guam Church did nothing. Since last week Thursday they chose to ignore Cardinal Tagle.

      Sad day in Guam indeed, but at least people are now finally fired up. I tried a few months ago to show more respect for our Archbishop. But in that time he has done no act to restore my respect or trust in him. Now he has turned the entire Church on Guam against him, except the kikos.

      Archbishop, now is the time to consider your health, and the health of the faith on Guam. Step down, retire for medical reasons, or whatever. But the people of Guam now deserve a chance to start the healing process. We can now see clearly there is absolutely no hope for change while you occupy the bishop's chair.

      This revelation was made 4 hours ago and 90 people have commented, and you have no more support. Please consider all of this and step aside. Then the healing can begin.

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    8. Janet this is a tragic day for the church when it becomes clear we cannot trust anymore the spiritual leader . Archbishop has lost trust today of Catholics who defended him. How can we defend him when truth is he attempted to fool us. That hurts. We given him two thousand USD a year gift and he now we learn he fools us. Very hurt over this.

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    9. To Mary Lou at 8:14 PM. I totally agree. I posted comments these past week stating just that. The invitation by Cardinal Tagle and the supposed evangelization was merely a ruse for their real motive: to get up close to pay homage to their prophet and king, Kiko, and at the same time, impress Kiko on how Guam can easily mobilize to pay him homage. There was no evangelization ever intended. It was all about kissing Kiko's ass, all to the tune of $100,000. I hope the kiss was worth it. LOL............

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    10. Kiss on both checks Neo European style.

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  20. For all those who have forgotten this is is a refresher. As satiated on Diana's post

    DianaJune 2, 2014 at 12:53 AM
    Dear Anonymous at 11:31 p.m.,

    Since April, the NCW already knew that Kiko Arguello will be visiting the Philippines at the invitation of the Cardinal. While those in Junglewatch are estimating the cost of the trip per person, those in the Way already know the exact amount per person. We also know that after the Philippines, Kiko will be traveling to Japan. He was also invited by the Japanese bishops in Japan.

    Right now, you already have the news report from the Pinoy Catholics that Kiko Arguello will be visiting the Philippines. It is not yet in the news report that after the Philippines, he will be visiting Japan. We know because we received the word from Kiko who told it to the Archbishop and the Team Catechists here in Guam. If you do not believe me, that is not my problem. In time, the news report will come out that Kiko will be visiting Japan. Just remember that you heard from the NCW first before it hit the internet and the news.

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    1. Will be doing a separate post on the so-called invitation from the Japanese bishops. Absolutely hilarious given this news:

      VATICAN CITY – Citing years of “trouble”, Japan’s Catholic bishops have asked the Neocatechumenal Way to cease activities in the country for the next five years.

      Archbishop Joseph Mitsuaki Takami of Nagasaki told Catholic News Agency on Dec 15 that the bishops’ proposal, made directly to the Way’s founder, Kiko Arguello, has so far not been accepted.

      http://www.catholicnews.sg/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5469%3Ajapans-bishops-want-neocatechumenal-way-to-stop-work&catid=261&Itemid=473

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    2. To think they were told this news (rather lie) since April!

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    3. We see another example of how kiko nuts will say anything without any reason or support.
      AnonymousJune 6, 2014 at 6:51 PM says:
      "To think they were told this news (rather lie) since April!" Obviously kiko-fool does not know how to read. Early on in the article it talks about the Japan bishops meeting with Pope Benedict XVI. Guess what anon...that means this took place a few years ago. January 2011 to be exact. But go ahead and convince us that the word just got to Kiko this April. If we fall for that then you can sidestep yet another controversy.
      Hmmm...........
      Is Catechesis #11 entitled: how to tell lies so obviously wrong that people will pity you?
      Leave the jungle and don't come back. This site is for people who seek the truth.

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  21. Tim, may it be asked why This lie was printed. Why would the archbishop lie. Also what does this tell us about Fr. Paul Gofigan. May be archbishop has created greater lies about Paul's integrity. Guam is in a mess.

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  22. Dishonesty beyond words. Sorry.

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  23. Archbishop Krebs apostolic delegate may be interested to read this case. Archbishop Apuron lies to a cardinal nothing to stop him with lies to the apostolic delegate.

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  24. What is happening to our church. Sickening.

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  25. This was no simple grammatical error or misprint. It was a deliberate manipulation of what actually occurred. This is certainly news worthy in the context of all the other lies being exposed coming from the chancery.

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  26. The letter of cardinal tagle manifests that archbishop is nothing more than an out right liar.

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  27. For those who doubt the authenticity of the letter, all you have to do is ask Jennifer to see her copy. It's that easy.

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  28. Very disturbing information. A. Priest in Guam.

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  29. For respect for cardinal an apology from the archdiocese needs to be made. .
    An apology should also be extended to all those who had their integrity questioned due to this reckless lie.

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    1. Janet B - MangilaoJune 6, 2014 at 8:49 PM

      An apology to all the parents who sent their kids to Manila because Cardinal Tagle had invited them.
      Sickening how our dear Archbishop has totally lost his compass. But we have been seeing this for quite a while now. This is just the boldest move.
      But one has to ask the question:
      If our Archbishop can lie like this when the whole world is scrutinizing him, what has he done when he knew no one was watching. This issue is only the tip of an ugly iceberg that now the whole world can see.
      I pray Archbishop Krebs will finally do something to save us:
      1. further embarrassment
      2. further pillaging of Church funds
      3. further abuse of the clergy
      4. further loss of the faithful by a total lack of leadership

      Dear Apostolic Delegate - please help us, now more than ever.

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    2. Janet B. apologies to these parents are not necessary . If you notice on the video in Diana 's blog you see Father Edulvaldo. By just looking at the youths there most of them came from the community in Chalan Pago. They are Die Heart NEOS!

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  30. Responsibles, co-Responsibles, catechists, presbyters, and Archbishop Apuron why do you all make announcements during your gathering that is not true.....BECAUSE KIKO SAYS SO AND WE MUST OBEY!

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    1. Your Excellency, Catholics cannot support the actions you or the chancery. Loss of trust in your ability to lead this community.

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  31. Priests and friends talking about this matter. We can't even say it is an error or typo. It was a lie with full knowledge of intention to miss lead the people. We trusted the archbishop and he abused the trust, and truth is now seem. That hurts.

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  32. Arch will now sit through this typhoon as he did before with the gay letter he wrote, the friary problem, so many problems in his past. He will sit tight, ride the storm, do nothing, that's how he will respond. Problem is now we have evidence the problem is him and his two companions on the hill. Where are they in all this.

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  33. Apuron may the Holy Spirit lead you to,truth this Pentecost Sunday.

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  34. I will send to you the Spirit of truth, says the Lord; he will guide you to all truth. Alleluia verse for tomorrow. Let us pray.

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  35. Talk about shock and awe.

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  36. Concern is Fr. Paul Gofigan. Suspect the archbishop has lied concerning Fr. Paul. We all know the Archbishop lies, we got used to it over the years. He lied about many priests. It is only past year through junglewatch we see that the lies do not help the archdiocese. The lies divide us. Archbishop and fr. A divide the clergy of Huam. It is a fact. So many lies and no one responds only fearless Tim Rohr. Thank you Tim.

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  37. If this is not distressing, not disturbingly telling, and if this is not the straw for everyone employed at the Chancery (neo or non-neo); if it’s not a grave concern for parents of youth in the neo; if it’s not jarring at this point to the sensibleness of adults in the neo -- especially to our Deacons who have for a while been already observing questionable things about the NCW -- then, God have mercy on our Catholic Church on Guam!

    Is this how we Catholics on Guam want to be known as and want to be seen as, world-wide? Our total disregard for and our total indifference to what is going on in our Diocese and our Beloved Catholic Faith and Church on Guam? Our complacency and our lukewarmness to an evil rapidly devouring our Catholic Church our youth and adults? Our de-sensitization to the immorality and scandal in our midst and out in the open?

    Our silence will only mean our complicity in the demise of our Catholic Faith and our Catholic Church as we know it, now; but most importantly, it will mean our culpability for enabling it and for not militantly doing something to stop this!

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  38. Deacon Harold " babe" guess you will be quiet now for a time.

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  39. Maria agree. How can we remain silent after what is revealed today. Archbishop must think we are fools.

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  40. View 9:30 mass at cathedral. Next Sunday it will be empty.

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    1. No it won't be! Students will be confirmed this Sunday by the Archbishop! Seeing Kiko was more important than confirming the student in Maina yesterday. Now you can see who is more important!

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    2. Wow! Thats really sad @ anon 8:06

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    3. Putting a trip to Manila over his duty and responsibility to do confirmations? That is certainly very sad! That is also very telling. This Archbishop's heart, mind and soul is now totally with and totally for the ncw not with or for our Catholic Faith and Church!

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    4. May be should not attend Sunday 9. 30am to show arch we do not want his lies.

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    5. This Sunday Mass live stream not there. What happened?

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  41. Hooraaay to Tim and company for proving the NCW and Kiko wrong! Congratulation and I applaud you. Well deserve all accolades for proving the way wrongly assume Tagle invited Kiko.

    Starting from a guy who in the Parish.

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  42. Thank you Tim, for your persistence and for remaining steadfast on this and on so many disturbing practices and issues linked and rooted to the ncw. Now that our eyes are opened wider, our suspicions confirmed and the unquestionable proof is out on what the ncw is all about, what can we do as concerned Catholics about putting a halt to ncw’s destruction of our beloved authentic Catholic Church on our island?

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    1. Maria, actually it is the Bishop with whom responsibility lies. (pun intended)
      He has the authority and responsibility to put a stop to this profanation of the Liturgy, among other things.
      Start a petition, stating all the errors going on get signatures and forward it to the Nuncio.

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  43. Diana contributing to traffic on this blog.


    DianaJune 6, 2014 at 7:52 PM
    Dear Anonymous a 7:37 p.m.,

    As I said to another anonymous poster, I stand corrected. I was wrong. It appears that it was the NCW in the Philippines who invited Kiko and then invited their cardinal to meet with Kiko rather than the other way around. It is then a good thing that the news article written by Jennifer Dulla was taken out

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    1. Studying the letter and dates ms dulla knew how serious it was chose to remain silent. We cannot trust ms Dulla again. Ms Dulla had days to come clean she had received the letter from the cardinal and ignored. Unacceptable . No trust in you Jen. Thought you were gracious but sadly was wrong.

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    2. Janet B - MangilaoJune 6, 2014 at 11:31 PM

      So Diana, how does it feel to know you belong to an organization that shamelessly lies to its members? And they made you look like a total buffoon along the Way?

      Interesting retraction on your part, "It appears that it was the NCW in the Philippines who invited Kiko and then invited their cardinal to meet with Kiko rather than the other way around."

      Really? It doesn't appear that way to me at all. Incredible, after getting busted for a huge lie, and now you're still going to try and lie your way out? Should we now believe what you say "because Kiko told us so"? No offense, but before you make the same mistake twice, you should make sure to documentthis with proof in writing, rather than post mere speculation.

      But I forgot, ethics are of no concern when you can twist the truth with convenient lies. Please provide proof of what you say, or please shut up and save yourself further embarrassment!

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    3. The real question is who gave the information to Ms. Dulla to say what she wrote in the article.

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    4. Ms Dulla answer vocation call in PI meeting. Pray for her in the nuns.

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    5. The order that Ms Dulla wants to enter MUST have the NCW PROGRAM. Pius Sammutt will make sure of that! NCW members MUST ENTER RELIGIOUS LIFE WITH THE PROGRAM......HELLO!

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    6. She has done so before. Yes, pray for her.

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    7. Working for the abortion senator or following Kiko. Such choices.

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  44. As stated by Diana, the chain of command about the Cardinal went from Kiko-Archbishop-Team Catechists who inevitably told the members. LISTEN, OBEY, DONT QUESTION and SILENCE! Now, maybe more eyes will be opened and start questioning the validity of all information poured out by Kiko and not to stand alone on BECAUSE KIKO SAYS, WE MUST OBEY!

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  45. Kiko will address Guam to explain.

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  46. Disaster. Not even sure what arch can say to dig out of this. If he was pressured by a higher authority to lie about cardinal tagle and to lie to the youth he must tell us who pressured him. The only way to understand .

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  47. Where is the kiko prayer people talking about cannot find it.

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  48. Lord save your people. Lord save your church.

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  49. Tragic. For many months I have been watching junglewatch from afar. I really didn't believe what was being said, all the negative speculation about the Archbishop. I knew him when he was just a priest.
    And now I just woke up and with horror realize that he has committed a huge mistake/misrepresentation. Worse yet he and his leadership tried to cover it up for more than 8 days. Now I must question whether all that was said previously might be valid. Archbishop, we really need to hear from you so our faith in you can be restored.
    A former parishioner deeply saddened.

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  50. Janet B - MangilaoJune 7, 2014 at 12:13 AM

    NEWS FLASH from Anonymous June 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM
    "Kiko will address Guam to explain."

    Oh Joy, more Kiko says!

    Sorry. Tell him to head straight back to Spain after his Japan victory tour!

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    1. Hopefully, winging his way home to Spain shanty towns as we speak. Fly way Kiko Bird.

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    2. Guam announced FIRST OF ATTENDEES! Hurray!

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    3. Pius probably asked Kiko to announce it that way! Remember who out the Archbishop on stage during his trip to Rome in February! His tail, Father Pius. Always trying to make a name for himself elsewhere for glory and fame!

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  51. Did Diana just admitted she was wrong by saying she stands corrected? Then there is hope that the neocats, not the Kikos, will again open their hearts and minds to the Truth. We pray.

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  52. At the event earlier today, in a holding room filled with many top ranking neos waiting for their cue to come on stage to talk, Kiko overheard a conversation going on between Cardinal Tagle and the Responsibles in the Philippines apologizing to him about the article posted in the Umatuna. Kiko came over and blurred out, "Oh don't pay attention to those crazy reporters".

    So it looks like not only did the Archbishop sell out Ms. Dulla, but also did Kiko. It looks like it runs in the Kiko-family.

    Guam Neo that was present

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    1. Let's see if the seminarians are grown men and blindly march through all of this. And gather at the feet of their fearless leader for pizza and 3D movies.

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  53. Those who help Tim in Manila we know.

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    1. Are you sure?

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    2. " This meeting will change your life forever." Kiko.

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  54. Guam Neo present- you and Tim have proven your point that it was an erroneous post about Tagle inviting the Way. So your not satisfied? Why don't line them up, with the Archbishop on the white wall. I'll lend you my 50 caliber and point and shoot. I know for a fact that's what you wanna do. Admit it! Get to the point. Your irritated cus they admit they were wrong. Come on I'll supply you ammunition and Colt 45.

    Let me know.

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    1. Wow. Sounds like you're the one who's irritated. Actually WHO admitted they were wrong? Not the Archbishop. Not Jennifer Dulla. Not the Umatuna. Not even "Diana" since he/she/it/them is not a person. There is no accountability on anyone's part, just like the rest of the Neocatechumenal Way. And beside, we are not looking for an apology. We are looking for the archbishop to decide whether or not he is a bishop or a brother. Under the statutes, HE CAN'T BE BOTH.

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    2. Again Tim who are you decide the Archbishop can't be both? Do you also decide for him when he can breathe? Get your fetch fork and head to the hills and burn it. I dare you.

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    3. Anon at 10:34 am You "know for a fact" that Tim and Guam Neo present want to shoot people? I think you are one who is in dire need of counseling. You obviously are projecting what resides in your psyche. I think JW should keep your isp on file for reference. Thank you for alerting us to your arsenal.

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    4. I dare you to actually put your real name to your cowardly threats, COWARD. But as an FYI, look up Art 1 §2 in the Statute. I didn't decide, the pope did.

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    5. Yes. He logged on at 10:33:23 from Barrigada. I have it.

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  55. I just love Diana....didn't she see the whole video! Cardinal Tagle left after his short speech..she needs to watch it again! She makes it sound like he stayed there for the whole event!

    DianaJune 7, 2014 at 12:43 PM
    Dear Anonymous at 8:49 a.m.,

    I agree! It was a beautiful event! Kiko and the Cardinal of Manila were together there to celebrate such a beautiful event. God has truly given us great blessings!

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    1. Ah. There we have it. I knew it was coming...the kiko spin. Diana never disappoints!

      Saddest of all is that he/she sounds like they really believe it all.

      LOL

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    2. Unfortunately we are not able to print the full story. But it is safe to say cardinal did not stay long.

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  56. The meeting was a carbon copy of all those meetings. Getting old. Had no FIRE. it was clear. Kiko, Lord bless him, lost his magnetism , that's for sure. Arch and companion Pius CERTAINLY weren't on FIRE. occasions of this sort can't be duplicated over and over. Come, Holy SPIRIT.

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    1. Fr. Pius looked rather, um, arid.

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  57. There goes Diana. The NCW spin is on. Before the end of the week, and after posting photo after photo, the NCW will be proclaiming that Cardinal Tagle is One Body and Spirit with the
    Neo....just like the Popes. The NCW markeing machine is something else. But not too
    worry.Junglewatch will keep an eye on them. Thank goodness someone is.

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    1. Go back and watch the video! Watch the short shot of Cardinal Tagle's expression at the beginning when Kiko first speaks! He sure didn't look enthusiastic about KIKO'S preaching!

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    2. Neither did Pope Francis on "Kiko Lectures the Pope" to the right.

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  58. Is there a bio available on sister Mary carmen the nun with kiko. Is she the spiritual director. What is her position in the organization.

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    1. whoever Sister Mary Carmen she is, she should not be in the NCW. Hopefully, as a religious she is already initiated and had deepened her baptismal vows. Too bad Cardinal Chito did not sit down for a while and get preached at by Kiko. Yes, Diana's page has just taken the high road and giving glowing reports of the disorganized EVENT in the Philippines.

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    2. Speaking of BIO....Diana, whoever you are, we are not listening to you from your hiding place. We know who Tim is. Just continue copying and pasting if you think it is a help toward building the Kingdom. Don't address current events. You are not good at it. Just not your gift, sorry.

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    3. She actually dictates what Kiko is to say. She is the real driving force behind Kiko!

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  59. I jst love this segment of Diana's post. Especially about "why would the NCW want to embarrass themselves.

    AnonymousJune 7, 2014 at 10:28 AM
    There was no miscommunication, there was intent to deceive and fake the favor of Cardinal Tagle. It's part of the Neo track record.

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    DianaJune 7, 2014 at 12:27 PM
    Dear Anonymous at 10:28 a.m.,

    It is obvious that an invitation was sent to Guam because other countries such as Singapore were there as well. So, invitations were sent to Guam and Kiko. The confusion lies on who sent the invitation. If the NCW here intended to purposely give out the wrong information, it would only cause an embarrassment to ourselves rather than the Cardinal.


    AnonymousJune 7, 2014 at 3:09 PM
    "If the NCW here intended to purposely give out the wrong information, it would only cause an embarrassment to ourselves rather than the Cardinal."

    No kidding! I highly doubt the Cardinal was embarrassed! But you are right, this was just further embarrassment for the neo.


    DianaJune 7, 2014 at 3:33 PM
    Dear Anonymous at 3:09 p.m.,

    And this is why I do not think it is intentional. Why would the NCW want to embarrass itself?

    Reply

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    1. There was an invitation. Peter Palomo, on this blog, told us about it. It was simply an invitation to come to the Paranaque event to see Kiko. It did not come from Cardinal Tagle because Cardinal Tagle is not the bishop of Paranaque. It came from the Neo hierarchy. Only in Guam was it transformed into a personal invitation from Cardinal Tagle. And the fact that the Archbishop did not correct it tells us that it came from or through him...though it was probably ordered by his neo superiors.

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    2. However, speaking of embarrassing yourself...Diana.

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    3. Silly you Diana, you forgot to add this to your question: "Why would the NCW want to embarrass itself, AGAIN AND AGAIN BY CONTINUING TO LIE AND LIE AND LIE AND THINK THAT WE CAN FOOL NON-NEO CATHOLICS' INTELLIGENCE?"

      But really, the question you should have posed to yourselves to ponder on and discern amongst the kikos and yourselves in the ncw Diana, is this: "Why does the ncw think that crime pays? ... and gee, why does the ncw continue to really believe that our lies would not be discovered?"

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  60. Since I can't remember where the comments were about the NCW paying for the use of the churches, or the payment of this trip I will post my question here. Sorry!

    In regards to the Umatuna, when there is a section plastered in the Umatuna advertising the NCW such as their Gala, St. Patrick's Feast Day, or any other events associated with this movement, does the NCW pay for these or is payment done at the courtesy of the Archbishop?

    Umatuna staff can you answer? If a Catholic School wants to post in the Umatuna, they have to pay! If any religious organizations want to put something in regarding their organizations, they have to pay. This includes the parishes!

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    1. No. Neither the seminary nor the archbishop pays. You are right, everyone else pays. Not even fiesta announcement or congratulations for ordination anniversaries are free. Everything for the seminary and the neo is free. The only way to stop this is to stop advertising. Start using social media and other ways of getting announcements or even put them in the local papers. Stop supporting the U Matuna.

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    2. Page 2 of the Umatuna lists the names and phone numbers of the business manager, advertising representative, and editor. Call them and ask if ads are placed for free. It appears to me that because they have a "business manager", the paper is run like a business. Ads aren't free and bills are paid. There are so many altruistic people who may in fact pay the ads of the events listed by Mr. Rohr.

      The manamko, those at St. Dominics family or staff or patients, or the Skilled Nursing Unit read the Umatuna. Also families who do not engage in social media read it. It would be sad to see the Umatuna disappear because of a misperception.

      Mr. Rohr, I read your columns in the past. I found them very useful. I enjoy reading the columns of Fr. Joel and Fr. Dan. I also read Fr. Pius' column when it is published. I like knowing what is happening in my Church. These columns have helped me through periods of crisis. Why throw the baby out with the bath water?

      "...take one or two others along with you, so that ‘every fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses.’" (Matthew 18:16)

      http://www.usccb.org/bible/matthew/18

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    3. Thank you for your comments. Unfortunately our chancery only responds to monetary threats. Discouraging advertising in the U Matuna if they continue to violate our trust is the only leverage we have. But bear in mind, the Neo overtake of the U Matuna is just another step in the Neo overtake of each and every parish and of the entire island of Guam. They are counting on the cultural penchant for non-confrontation to be able to walk in here and make the locals lay down. So far they have succeeded because up to know they have been right about our wanting peace and unity and not confrontation. This is why they thought they could get away with getting the archbishop to sign over the Yona property and getting rid of Fr. Paul. Guam has a history of succumbing quickly to colonizers. And as in the past, the idea was to convert the chief and the indians would follow. Well the "indians" are smarter now.

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  61. Now we know about u Matuna it becomes clear best to withdraw financial support . U Matuna and it's staff have shown they have no personal integrity . Honestly even the sisters of mercy partaking in thiis lie is not welcomed. Would have expected better from the sisters. Withdraw financial support it's a cheap paper anyway and serves no purpose. With social media today you don't need for communication.

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    1. May have been charged double for Fr. Paul's ordination ad. Yikes.

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    2. Sisters of Mercy have nothing to do with this. How did you figure that one out, genius.

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    3. Only one Sister of Mercy is involved. Sr. Marian Arroyo.

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    4. I would concur that the RSM have nothing to do with this. However, it is easy to see why one might think that given that an RSM is the Executive Director of the U Matuna. As far as I know, Sister Marian is not a member of the Neo nor is any RSM. This was totally the Archbishop's doing. Everyone else was just following orders. They should resign if they want to avoid being caught in future scams.

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  62. This ad placed in the Umatuna just shows how people still trust and believe in him! Everyone in life needs to be given a second chance and this is exactly what he did. He had showed his compassion!

    Mary Magdalene was the greatest sinner and The Lord forgave her. So do not judge lest you be judged!

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    1. That little blurb in the Umatuna is far from being interpreted as an apology from the Archbishop. When and if he gives a genuine apology then it will be construed as having earned our forgiveness.

      and BTW, you can't forgive if an apology is not initiated and forgiveness isn't solicited. BTW a GENERAL request for forgiveness that begins with "IF i have ... " does not demonstrate acceptance of a commission or an omission, and is not genuine, not real; as a matter of fact, it is clearly and unequivocably fake.

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    2. 8:42 a.m from 4:30 pm the ad I was referring to was meant for Father Paul and not the tacky cut and paste!

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  63. Unacceptable. This is not an apology. Amounts to nothing more than a poor attempt of the paper to do something for damage control.

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    1. Yes, particularly grievous given that it was Cardinal Tagle himself who was abused and it was the Cardinal himself who lodged the written complaint. They should have printed his letter. So once again, they know NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING.

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    2. As per a post in Diana's blog by Bernie. Could this be Bernie Santo Tomas whose so. Is a seminarian at RMS?
      AnonymousJune 9, 2014 at 8:55 PM
      I wonder what was the purpose of the Jungle blog by withholding confidential information about the Cardinal Tagle invitation.

      If you read the thread of the blog you see how the information was deliberately withhold post by post in order to incite emotions. This followed an evil script to entice and entrap the readers of the blog who fell to the scheme with no exception. Just read the comments when the confidential Tagle letter was eventually exposed. It was a shameful hatchet job what the Jungle blog did by manipulation and delaying confidential information that was obtained by an international plot and therefore was known by the blog much earlier!

      This evil scheme was designed to thwart attention from the real thing that happened in the Philippines: the visit of the International Catechist Team that will be followed by establishing hundreds and hundreds of Neocatechumenal communities all around. The flocking of people into the new formation will ensue a spirited renewal of the whole Catholic Church in the Philippines. This is the truth that happened on June 6th, 2014. ;)

      Bernie

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    3. The evil scheme was that the Chancery knew about the letter and did nothing about it. The NCW KNEW way ahead of time about this event, but did nothing to rectify the statement!

      You last last statement about renewing the spirituality of the WHOLE CATHOLIC CHURCH IN THE PHILIPPINES IS AN INSULT TO THE FILIPINO PEOPLE. IT IS A SPIT ON CARDINAL TAGLE'S FACE Saying in not so many words, HEY CARDINAL YOU AREN'T DOING YOUR JOB!

      You people consider yourselves the SAVIOR OF the WORLD!

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  64. Archbishop has a history of doing nothing. Had the archbishop have acted correctly it would have saved young men .

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  65. For 25 years arch has never given an apology to anyone. He will give a general apology at the end of his office in seven years.

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  66. Deleting content from websites and blogs seems to be standard practice for the Kiko's who try to cover their tracks. I commented on Diana's blog in regards to Bernie's last paragraph above. There were a couple of exchanges between Diana and I, and on her last comment to me, she attacked me personally and accused me of contributing to shady behind the scene dealings that I metioned on a previous comment. She also responded to my comment about my mother, saying that my mother is a fine example, but that it was unfortunate that I did not follow my mother in her walk with Jesus, whether through the Way or not.

    I responded to her comment and pointed out that there seemed to be alot of anger/hatred directed towards me, and I questioned how she could judge my walk of faith without even knowing me, and that I was only pointing out what I had observed while watching the video. I did not attack anyone personally. I told her that I would pray that God guides her through life.

    I followed up that comment (a little annoyed) with another letting her know that I had also talked to my mother about the NCW's non-conformance with mandatory Catholic Church practices; the Archbishop and Kiko disobeying the Pope, and several other things. I ended the comment by saying that it was up to my mom if she choosed to believe it or not.

    To be continued....

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  67. Continuation...

    About 15 minutes later, her nasty comments were deleted from the thread. Only these comments prior to her nastiness remain:


    Anonymous (ME)
    June 10, 2014 at 8:37 AM

    The truth of what happened is that it was a sham. The video is clear evidence of the use of crowd manipulation and peer to induce the desire result. This is evident at the end when the girls start to go up to the stage in response to Kiko. You can see some hesitation at first, but if you observe carefully you will see girls respond after seeing others go to the stage. I'm sure there were some that truly felt the calling, but there were also many that obviously did not. This is evident by the dreadful crying by some of the girls on stage. Many of these were not cries of joy; you can see some of them comforting each other. Similar to a scene you might scene on t.v., a move, or documentary about human trafficking/slavery. They are not there by choice, hence the dreadful crying.

    One of the tactics used to get commitments from these young girls is crowd manipulation and peer pressure. Hitler used to his advantage. The girls may also feel the pressure from their parents and community. The pressure could come in a negative/positive for but still create the desired effect/action. There is also pressure to make your peers, family and community proud by volunteering; thus increasing the number of volunteers from your community. This is evident by the constant attention paid to the numbers during the entire event.

    Another thing is their age. There were many girls committing at such a young age. These girls are not old enough to determine for themselves if they are ready to make such a commitment, and no one else should be making that decision for them through manipulation or peer pressure. The should be mentored and guided through a process of discernment. The opposite can cause extreme psychological damage if they come to the decision that it is not their calling, but had already committed. Shame, guilt and feelin that they turned their back on God are only some of the feelings that could hurt them in the long run.

    To be continued...


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  68. Continuation...

    Diana
    June 10, 2014 at 9:13 AM

    Dear Anonymous 8:37 a.m.,

    You mention age as a problem? God can call anyone regardless of age. The history of the Church shows that we even have very young martyrs who were willing to give up everything for Christ such as Maria Gorettil (spelling). When Aaron Quitugua wanted to join the seminary, did you question his age?

    I agree that not everyone of those youths who got up there will become priests and nuns. They will be going through a process of discernment in pre-vocation and in their scrutinies.. Yes, we have pre-vocation and scrutinies to determine if the girls are really committed to the life of the monastery or not.

    And by the way, when these youths were called, there were NO music playing in the background. Kiko called for any boys who want to be in the priesthood, and there was NO music playing in the background.....only a call to the priest. It was the same with the girls. The music only started playing when they were being blessed by the bishops.

    You compare this calling from God to human trafficking and slavery? Human trafficking and slavery were definitely forced. These youths in the Neocatechumenal Way, on the other hand, were not forced. As anyone can see, NOT all the youths went to the stage. It was their choice.


    Anonymous (SOME IDIOT)
    June 10, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    Now Tim Rohr hides as anonymous. His comments gives him away.



    Anonymous (ME)
    June 10, 2014 at 12:59 PM

    I can't prove it but I made the comment and I'm not Tim. However id do admire the quality of his work. I choose to remain anonymous because my mother is a responsible and I don't want her to experience any backlash. She knows what I think of some of the NCW practices. I most admit that she has grown in her faith, but was oblivious to all the shady behind the scene dealings. She's not a blind Kiko, thank God, and I'm sure she won't be after our talks.


    THE REST WAS DELETED! Not even an apology for letting out the DIRTY NEO in her. Diana's comments were a pure reflection of his/her nastiness through the Way; I think she realized it and destroyed the evidence. I'm sure this is just one of many, many stories out there about Diana.

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    1. You are correct in your estimation of 11:30AM as "SOME IDIOT". Like I would 1) even comment on Diana's blog, and 2) comment as Anonymous when I have no reason to hide and am actually proud of what I say. (I do understand your situation though.) Thanks for your support. Stay at it. While I don't comment or even go there except to verify items copied here, others need to expose her/him/they/it as you have.

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  69. AnonymousJune 10, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    Anon 12:59 PM what do you mean blind Kiko? Can you explain?
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    AnonymousJune 10, 2014 at 6:37 PM

    A Kikobot

    Whatever Kiko says goes

    I don't care about the facts cause Kiko said

    I obey Kiko

    No need to understand cause Kiko already said

    Kiko is a living saint

    Kiko has angel wings

    He is a modern day profit

    I hope this helps to explain anonymous's comment at 12:59

    AnonymousJune 10, 2014 at 9:38 PM

    a blind kiko is one who does the following:

    1. Take ANY criticisms against the NCW and categorizes such as a persecution against themselves
    or the community.

    2. Does not question what their catechists say or seek to learn more about their faith other
    than what is catechized to them. It's as if the Book of Life suddenly began with the NCW and
    anything outside of the dogma of their catechesis is circumspect.

    -Catholics United-
    DianaJune 11, 2014 at 5:58 AM

    There is no one in the NCW who obeys Kiko.

    There is a big difference between criticisms of the NCW and persecution of people. When you persecute people, you target certain persons such as the Archbishop.


    -she doesn't refute that kiko is a living saint!

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    1. Hmmm. So when the Archbishop targets certain people it's called...?

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    2. Tim, it's called revenge!

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    3. Archbishop has targeted priests and laity for elimination.

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    4. Lord have mercy , elimination sounds like dictatorship.

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    5. When the Archbishop targets certain people, it's called … "Exercising His Episcopal Authority," of course! LOL

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  70. June 11 @ 8:02,

    I can't find that trail of comments on Diana's blog, but I know it's real because I submitted the first comment responding to what is meant by blind Kiko.

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  71. Keep sending ballistic missiles to the chancery chancery will return to Manila.

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  72. Why would kiko a lay man want to be calling boys to the stage to be priests. Unless he then directs them to one of his seminaries. He has lost his mind.

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  73. Ballistic missiles Lord have mercy. Does pope Francis use these terms. Peace.

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  74. How does Diana know that the Cardinal did not give his permission for his letter to go public. An Investigation in to the leak????


    DianaJune 11, 2014 at 12:13 PM
    Because the Cardinal's letter was "leaked out", secretly obtained and even disclosed to the public without the Cardinal's permission, an investigation may be in order. I do not think that Cardinal Tagle would want his personal letters and confidential documents be "leaked out." Rather, he would be offended by it.

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    1. Well, then, let's see now. Who are the only people who could have leaked it? Jennifer Dulla, Tony Diaz, or Sister Marian. These are the only people who the letter was addressed to. It's either that or Cardinal Tagle authorized the release of his letter to others.

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  75. Cardinal tagles personal letters were leaked out of his office by Tim's contact in Manila. Contact is the one who circulated the letter. Contact is a priest.

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  76. Diana will name the priest who leaked the secret letter .

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    1. OOOOOOOO! Diana! When you gonna name him. HAAAAAAAAA. Won't waste too much time waiting around; that is for sure. Name who Diana is first, OK? Thanks. Pizza be with you!

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  77. Diana knows who leaked the letter. Leak was in Manila by a crazy priest with crazy friends in Manila society.

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  78. I thought the Goddess of Love was over the Cardinal Tagle issue...lol...why is she giving it so much attention now? Maybe because Tim got a copy of the letter and she was totally clueless? This is just too funny. Move on Diana.

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    1. I agree that is why. Diana was clueless and Tim made her eat her own words, which she has trouble digesting. Yup! Lies and deception are hard to digest. LOL...

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  79. LOL. She's just trying to distract us from who WROTE the letter and why. And the reason it was written suggests that author wouldn't be too worried about it being "leaked."

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  80. Cardinal tagle Harbouring suspended priiests in Manila. Now that's a story . Archbishop Apuron does not shelter bad Priests in yona. Cardinal tagle Diana knows.

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    1. Whoa! where we going here, Diana, co-responsible NOT. Who was talking about "yona", HUH? "Cardinal tagle Diana knows" ominous. This @ 3:43 just gave away way too much. Diana, WE KNOW.

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  81. The Cardinal's letter should have been opened to the public. The church should be transparent with policies, statements, letters concerning the church. Withholding of these things is a Communistic practice.

    The article written by Miss Dulla was a public document in the Umatuna Si Yu'us, therefore the Cardinal's letter should have been made public to include a public apology to the Cardinal.

    Posted by me: PUTIN

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  82. Diana Still waiting for your revelation ?

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  83. Red alert! Red alert! Russians unchurched needs Evanzelization! All Neocats welcome!

    Red alert! Red alert! In desperate need of Evangilization in Mindinao Muslim community for the unchurched. Neocats also welcome!

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    1. Get in line for the Evangelization. A billion people in China ahead of those souls. First things first. Kiko will have to call 30,000 more presbyters. Neocats have to follow the plan. They are WALKING slowly.

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  84. Send them to mindinao .

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  85. Don't think so.

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    1. Why not? Afraid of being shot and decapitate! It isn't a very pretty picture. I was there when the ambush was made on an envoy heading to file the petition for an election. When they dug up the cars that were buried with these people some were shot through the head, some decapitated.

      This is the mission of the NCW, to evangelize those who are unchurched. These people who were responsible were unchurched. You speak of evangelization but have the FEAR OF THE LORD to go to these places that are hostile? WHY? This is what your mission is suppose to be all about. It is not about taking those who are already initiated into the church. Your mission is to evangelized those who are unchurched!

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  86. Not our mission to go to places like south Philippines. Our mission is to evangelize Catholics who are Luke warm and need salting to give them life. Guam is full of dry bones my role is to give the bones salted water to bring life to a dead community. Guam is full of dry bones, parishes are dead, non neo priests dead, our role is to bring life to the community.

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  87. Well at least Anonymous 2:07 tells it like it is. Neocats are here to save the non-neo Catholics who apparently are all dead in their faith. Shows you exactly where we stand with the neocats, doesn't it?

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