Wednesday, August 3, 2016

VATICAN ARROGANCE TO THE MAX

Posted by Tim Rohr

Hon: Church is treating latest accusation against church members seriously
http://www.guampdn.com/story/news/2016/08/02/hon-church-treating-latest-accusation-against-church-members-seriously/87944964/

PDN: “Hon on Tuesday reiterated his desire to meet with people who’ve recently accused Arcbishop Anthony Apuron of sexual abuse. He also said he wants to meet with Tudela.”

Today on Jesse Lujan’s show, Hon said that he hasn’t contacted Tudela because he didn’t know how. What? Tudela publicly testified at a public hearing which means he signed in with his name, phone, number and email address. There is no excuse that 2 days later Hon is saying he doesn’t know how to contact him. Don't you have a SARC?

Hon said NOTHING about Mr. Tudela publicly until Jesse Lujan interviewed him this morning. Only then did he express his concern for Mr. Tudela. If he really is serious he would have issued a statement expressing concern for Mr. Tudela immediately after the public hearing  He did not. 

PDN: “When PDN asked Hon, early Tuesday, whether he believes Apuron is innocent, Hon said he welcomes the alleged victims to contact him “so that we take seriously the matter into consideration.”

Soon after Walter Denton spoke about being raped by Apuron, Hon publicly and from the pulpit compared the allegations against Apuron to a case where an adult woman accused a bishop of adultery which later proved false. His statement belittled and mocked the allegations against Apuron. Then he extended NOTHING to the victims until he was served with a law suit. 

PDN: “Hon said he doesn’t have any knowledge on whether the Vatican ordered Apuron to leave Guam, but only learned that Apuron went to Rome. Hon said he did not see Apuron when Hon was still in Rome, before he was sent to Guam in early June. Up to today, he said he doesn’t know where Apuron is.”

On June 6, Apuron released a video message from the steps of the Vatican saying that Hon was sent to Guam at his (Apuron’s) request. Hon has NEVER refuted this statement so it must be true. 

PDN: Within days of his arrival in Guam in early June, he said he privately asked about 48 priests who were on island to turn in a courtesy resignation to give him leeway to reassign them, if needed, for the unity of the church. He said most of the priests turned in their courtesy resignation, and he’s since been reassigning priests, in consultation with the Presbyteral Council.

Really? MOST of the priests? What about the ones who didn’t. What is Hon going to do about them? What he’s not telling you is that the priests who refused to resign are the Neocatechumenal priests led by Edivaldo. Apparently Hon is letting them get away with it because it is now two months later and the request was made within “day of his arrival.”

PDN: Hon said the Rev. Paul Gofigan and Monsignor James Benavente “did not ask to be back” to their original positions prior to Apuron removing them.

Very clever way for Hon to get around rescinding their Decrees of Removal. Both Gofigan and Benavente have canon law cases before the Vatican Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples of which Hon is the Secretary. Both cases contest their removals and require that they be restored to their positions. 

Vatican arrogance to the max.

24 comments:

  1. Apuron man is guilty and the Catholic Church is guilty!!! I served as an alter boy with my brother and when I looked back -i wondered why we stopped serving. DOWN WITH APURON MAN AND HIS THUGS!!!

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    1. Apuron is guilty

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    2. All this abuse on the youth of Guam, to include Boy Scouts, going back many, many years has affected our society. Think of the long term ramifications of this abuse and how each generation becomes affected by it. I was personally shocked at the number of former alter servers from Agat that are already deceased. What is wrong with that picture? I'm sure many turned their pain inward and suffered because of it.

      Time for AB Hon to step it up and stop dancing around issues. Start telling us like it is with a sincere attempt to address all the issues surrounding each controversy so that at least we know where you stand. I almost feel like I'm listening to another Diana.

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    3. I believe there is a tie to Guam's horrid history of sex abuse of children, especially by people who we ourselves protect because of their status, and our horrid suicide rate. Both are nearly twice the national average. No more holding candles. Start talking.

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    4. Victims of sexual abuse exhibit their symptoms in various ways.
      Suicide is just one of many. They can become sex offenders themselves, and/or destructive to self and or others. Abused boys may become easily provoked and aggressive -- do things to prove their manhood, such as rape and assault. Gender confusion is not uncommon, and as a result, quite a few become transvestites, transgenders, and become homosexuals as they were molested during the period of development when their sexual identity was not fully formed. A good number of those in prison are victims too. Abused girls can become promiscuous, have difficulties in relationships, become asexual or lesbians. They too can be perpetrators.
      When we take a closer look at the social ills in our island, we can see how sex abuse continues to ruin lives of the victims and affects us all. Alcoholism, drug addiction, are examples of how victims self medicate so they can deal with their damaged psyche.
      Let us continue to fight the good fight as we continue to bring awareness to our people. Let's educate ourselves on the issues and push for changes in behavior among ourselves and our Church leaders. Let's restore the Bride of Christ in her glory. Let us not fail our Lord, Jesus Christ, who found His One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church for the sake of OUR salvation!
      St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle.

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  2. Amazing! Since being served Hon has turned into a media junky. I'm sure Rome is amused. Sounds like a Chinese New Years fireworks! A lot of noise and smoke but in the morning just a big mess.

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  3. I see these priests are a bunch of liars. Take the archdiocese to court and let's find out the truth.

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    1. Not all priests are liars.
      Only a few.
      Those who supported Apuron need to be exposed for the trash they are.

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  4. Kudos to Mr. Jesse Lujan for putting Hon on the hot seat. We know now Hon is anything but honest, and the only way for him to talk is to include him in a lawsuit. But then again, even under oath, Hon may still not be honest!

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  5. Just wondering if any of these news articles are being carried in the international press. especially about Hon's ineptness.

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  6. I tried to fit Hon's name in the word "Hon est." It doesn't sound right. But it sounds right in the word "Dis Hon est."

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  7. Thank you Tim for this post.

    Really Hon? Were you sent here at Apuron's request? You have never made any statements to the contrary...

    Really Hon? You didn't and still don't expect the Edivaldo contingency to submit their coutesy resignations after 2 months? You didn't want them to feel like there were any "winners or losers"? Or were you just paving the Way for their continued infiltration of our parishes?

    Really Hon? You didn't know how to contact Mr. Tudela? Yes, he did sign in at the legislative hearing last Monday. Any one of your advisors could have told you that. If you were down there yourself to give testimony on behalf of the archdiocese you might have even met Mr. Tudela there!

    Really, Hon? You only understand law suits?

    I'll be joining the protesters this Sunday.

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  8. Tim I'm considering leaving the Catholic faith. Seems like there's bo hope especially with the facts you point out, even with those who are coming out. It not just the NCW but the whole church apparently. Help us.

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    1. We, the laity, must help the Church. We must help ourselves. Sunday 0900—0945, at the Cathedral. We still have a few picket signs available. See you there.

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    2. It appears your belief is in Church governance and not in Christ and His Bride. Get that right and you'll be okay.

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    3. Believe in Jesus Christ eat his body drink his blood and you will have eternal life. Read Gospel of John there you will find answers.

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  9. It is becoming abundantly clear that the Catholic faithful on GUAM are becoming increasingly impatient about not having any news at all about Apuron's situation and the status of the so called investigation he supposedly is undergoing. Archbishop Hon has not given any information about Apuron. It's hard to believe that he doesn't know anything whatsoever. Can he at least say that Apuron would not be back as the Archbishop of Agana and that the Vatican intends to have him replaced? This certainly would the people at ease. Otherwise the people are left with the possibility of Apuron returning and that would be totally unacceptable!! His title of Archbishop of Agana has not been removed.

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    1. Need to add another sign: "Where is Apuron?"

      If he is innocent as he says he is, why is he nowhere to be found?

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    2. Thank you, Vince. We are being played. Voices like yours are important. May I recommend that you send your testimony on Bill 326 directly to Archbishop Krebs with a request to forward to the appropriate Vatican congregation. We cannot trust Hon to do so. CC him anyway.

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    3. Trust and AB Savio just don't mix well together. Yes, Vince, send your testimony directly yo AB Krebs.

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    4. No trust in Archbishop Hon.

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    5. Archbishop Krebs maintains an air of Trust respect.

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    6. Encourage Apuron to return to Guam and meet with the people he spent 30 years destroying.

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  10. Yes. Title of Archbishop of Agana needs to be renoved from a serial child molester.

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