so much filth and corruption in apuron. i presume fr joel and the oftana family know this history well and, if so, may be willing to document it.
This is another outrageous example of how NEO/NCW Cult Prebyter Anthony Apuron treats priests that refuse to be a part of the CULT that is infesting Guam's Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. O' what a web this failure of an Archbishop weaves when he continually practices to deceive....STOP 100% of any form of donations until this NEO/CULT is irradiated from the Island of Guam.
I am appalled but this comes as no surprise as Fr. Gary is one of many, many immigrant priests on an R-1 Visa to Guam. I remember the same thing happening in the 1990's. But one local priest who was stripped early on was Fr. Patrick Garcia who is the first out of all of them...before Fr. Paul and before Msgr. James. Fr. Pat was removed from Pastorship because the three from the Chancery (Apuron, Quitugua the lesser, and Cristobal) reprimanded him for painting Mongmong Church petunia. His parish council actually made the decision and together it was done. They blamed him for mismanagement of funds but in actuality, he inherited a Church that Fr. Rudy destroyed. Once Fr. Rudy left, so many people came back. If you go to that parish today, everything that Fr. Pat did was removed. It is so sad to see this Archbishop use tactics that leave a priest questioning his vocation. Please remember that it is the same Archbishop that turned his back on his Capuchin Brothers barring them from celebrating Mass. This Archbishop is so full of the devil and Satanic behaviors. Why not ask him about the nude beach he visited on his lavish trips off island. Yes. Archbishop. We know about that one too. You need to be removed and I pray to Almighty God that you are removed!
@anon 10:20: what? is that true? i thought that fr pat himself said he needed to move temporarily to saipan for some mission he had to help with.
Walanghiya ka talaga, apuronMga kababayan, gumising na kayo!!!
Fr Paul will not be the last..and you know why...because we are the inferior Catholics who need to be taught the "true" way.See comment below from the dianas:The NCW is an itinerancy of Christian formation. Those who join the NCW are formed to become true Christians in which God will be put first. In the NCW, we only celebrate ONE Mass for a reason. The parish Mass, on the other hand, has MORE than one Mass to accommodate people's schedule. So, if a person cannot make it to the eight o'clock Mass because they have a game to go to, he/she can go to the eleven o'clock Mass. In the NCW, we teach people how to sacrifice for Christ, which is why we only have one Mass. You choose whether you want to go to the music concert or to the Eucharist. In other words, we are teaching Christians that you cannot have your cake and it too. You need to choose either God (which is the Mass) or the music concert. We are here to form Christians so they can put God first. In the Way, people learn about sacrifice.....giving up what they want and putting God first. Now, how does the parish teach the people about sacrifice? They don't. They have more than one Mass to accommodate people's schedule so that they can have their cake and eat it too. They can do what they want to do and still go to Mass because they have more than one Mass. They do not learn about sacrifice or putting God first.
Your arrogant post insults the parishioners that own the resources you proudly abuse....yes the title is under umbrella of the Corporation of the Archdioses.... But it is the blood and sweat of the parishioners that built that parish you continue to abuse with your cultism worship.....Wake up Guam.....stop letting them use your church resources to celebrate this sacrilegious way of worship. This post proves that they think that they are better than us.....Take a stand and block them from using your brain parish for their evil way of worship. We now see that the devil has infested your parish with the very words from Diana's post...
Many priests can attest to how heavy handed apuron had approached his spiritual leadership. His idea of service is for others to serve him rather than the other way around. He feels entitled to what was given to him as a responsibility. He had destroyed the morale of his priests and killed the spirits of faithful parishioners. There is no other way but to put an end to his evil reign. We hope sooner than later.
"Diana" flat out lies. The NCW hold multiple "celebrations" (not Masses) and even move them to Sunday when it is inconvenient for them to hold them on a Saturday. Everyone knows that there are more than one community on Guam as well and they don't all start at the same time.However, what is most important to understand about "Diana" is that the blog is sanctioned and endorsed by Fr. Pius as he instructs the communities to follow it. Because he is the head NCW catechist on Guam, every time they "eat, sleep or crap" they have to get his permission. From job changes, leaving the island, even who they date or marry, they need to consult with their catechists who in turn consult with Fr. Pius. The writing of the "Diana" blog is no different.Whenever "Diana" post anything, it is not incorrect to assume that it comes with Fr Pius' blessing. Otherwise, this "Diana" would not be congruent with Fr. Pius' "catechizing," and therefore doing things without consulting him. This is their catch-22. They created it.
Jose, Pius has her blog somewhere on one of his Web page, where one can click and go to. He is in full support of what she says or else he would correct her.
Blabber about "true Christians", and knocking us because "They do not learn about sacrifice or putting God first", and the false dichotomy of God or a music concert... I love it! We should encourage "Diana" to write more of this kind of thing! It's great, and works greatly to our favor. I've saved a snapshot of it here, just in case "she" gets smart and takes it down.
Anon @ 10:15am. I'm not too keen on promoting her site, but I am not afraid to rip it apart. However, if you want to go see for yourself, just send me an email via the link in my avatar next to my name.Chuck, you should cruise on over to my FB page and see the post I did on this last night. The other comments generated lots of activity for the commentor. She was and is still getting attacked by the NCW over her exposing Diana's lie. It's very very revealing of how these people operate; aggressively yet cowardly under the radar.
AAA, Pius, under the guise as Diana has stated that the NCW celebrates only one mass and that by having more than one mass to choose from, we the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church have not learned to sacrifice and put God first. You as the spiritual leader of Guam's Catholics is endorsing this message through your continued silence. Is this what you want as your legacy, to destroy the parishes and have separate communities of worship? Why then, do you condone the celebration of the daily morning and evening masses and the multiple masses on Saturday and Sunday? Your continued deceptive lies and evil deeds in order to preserve a community less than 1000 will be your legacy as it has made you a Unholy Deceptive Leader that tried to bring down the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church in Guam. To my late Pare' Joe (your older brother) and Godson Vincent Apuron, my deepest apologies for my posts about AAA (now known as presbyter Anthony who is under control of Pius and KIKO) on this blog.... Please note that I cannot stand idle when I see evil and deceptive deeds being done by AAA to Holy men of the cloth and the Lambs he was entrusted to Shepard. KATOLIKO "Spirit come into our lives today; Spirit Come Show us the Way"
AAA corrupt thief
Apuron will continue to destroy non-neo priests on Guam unless he resigns or the Pope removes him. His treachery knows no bounds. He has no shame, no conscience, no ability to live the example of Christ. He is a kiko puppet-- good only to have his strings pullers by his neo masters.Eileen Benavente-Blas
Eileen, there is no other way. This "call me tony" has to be removed, since he does not have the common sense to step down and allow real Catholics to sort this out and bring harmony to our island community. Now if the Vatican continues to coddle him by dragging this issue, we will have to physically do something to rid ourselves of this scumbag. The Apostolic Visitors are bereft of their duty, and we placed so much importance in their ability to resolve our problems with apuron. Who knows, they might even be complicit with the continued existence of ncw in Guam. Sadly, money talks, and churchmen can also be hypnotized by the glitter of gold.
Yes, what happened to Fr. Gary is true. I was a long time faithful and dedicated parishioner ofSan Vicente church and was there and talked to Fr. Gary when he got his letter. Aaa is a heartless, cruel person.i left that church even though my family felt bad but can not stand anything that has something to do with ncw. We have to get back our church. Holy father please help us.
There was another Filipino priest who was unceremoniously dismissed by Apuron. Fr Eugene was assigned in Sta Barbara. His sudden departure was somewhat shrouded in murky details. Fr Paul would probably know.
Elite Bakery in Tamuning which is owned by a nice elderly Cebuano couple also advertises in the Umatuna. They should be made aware of what Apuron did to Fr Gary, a fellow Cebuano.
Anonymous (June 7, 2015 at 10:34 AM), Elite Bakery might have advertised in the U Matuna Si Yu'os at one time, but I really haven't noticed any for awhile. I just checked this weekend's issue and there's none. I did a list of advertisements last week and Elite Bakery was not on that list.I know they advertise in the SASVCC Bulletin but that's not the same as the U Matuna.
This happened to Father Gary during November-December 1999 when he was also the chaplain for the Department of Corrections. We sent money to Father Gary through a special account at Metropolitan Bank.
sorry to criticize after the fact and distract from the main focus, but where was the public outrage when these injustices against fr gary were committed? is it just the island culture that prefers to deal with it quietly, rather than face it and bring it to light?i remember there was a petition circling when fr joel was being reassigned from tamuning to barrigada (as i recall). but that was just a reassignment. something like this is a true injustice, a wrong that needed to be pointed out and questioned.
Please remember that it was in 2008 that the Toto Parish rose up to protest the removal of our pastor. This was not a popular event among the Catholic faithful on Guam and also in our parish. People called us sinners, bad Catholics, possessed by the devil etc. for going against AAA. What happened to Father Gary in 1999 was a full eight years BEFORE that protest. In those days, no one questioned AAA. It was only now, in 2015, that AAA's grand scheme is fully revealed. The Philippine Consulate General of Guam was supposedly looking into possible labor abuses associated with AAA. However, we knew he was too powerful at that time and any complaints wouldn't go anywhere.
rey d. at 11:39am.Sorry but it is not our island culture to deal with all these injustices quietly, and to know that Father Joel knew about it is very disturbing to me.
Joel here make money self interested own gain. Cashee cashee bring envelopes to him wid cashee cashee........ $500 a time.
Certain priests aware of grave injustices to priests. Remained silent knowing injustices took place. Interesting how game plays out when those who treated unjustly become those unjustly treated. Whole drama going on here.......hope people understand. Tim does.
It appears we have solid incriminating facts and information which can be used to stop these atrocities from the aaa right now, why do we think we need to wait and see if another beloved and good non-neo pastor is again abused and thrown out before slapping a lawsuit against the aaa with our ironclad case!
Ironclad? Oh, em, gee.
Priests Guam suffered physical mental pain resulting from this administration. Many priests simply left to avoid the pain lies of him. Strange five years before retirement truth begins to be exposed. If not for Tim Rohr we would never even have received an apostolic visitation. This is not about NCW . This is about one bishop two priests and grave injustices of human rights over a 30 year period.
@ReyD, you know how humble Fr. Pat is. He would never tell people what happened to him out of respect and obedience to his vows as a priest, which includes orders from the higher ups. He remains humble. These things concerning the priests locally and regionally are very key points. Now that Guam, a member of CEPAC, has a Cardinal appointed to Oceania besides Archbishop Krebs, would be soooo important to make connections with. Concerned Catholics should request a visit by the Cardinal from Tonga to come visit us by paying for his roundtrip airfare. This was, The Cardinal can in fact, push for a replacement on Guam. Remember to keep the line of succession in mind as the laity of Guam organize. It is important to be aware also that Rome is watching every move. So keep faithful to everything in the Church.
Anon @ 2:33PM I am in agreement with your line of thought about inviting the good Cardinal from Tonga to bad for our cause and move our request forward with Rome. What say you, Archbishop Krebs?AAA once read the quote of J.K. Rowling..." it is our choices that shows what we truly are, far more than our abilities". That same weekend he was catechised into NCW. He chose to follow Satan's cult.
3.42. rather he chose to follow his own brain which never made good decisions. Not all NCW members are bad people. Other evening I had dinner with a couple who are an educated NCW members. They were very nice. But they are considering leaving to join couples for Christ as they have issues with teaching of Pius. They were saying even NCW community members do not agree with AAA or Pius. One may not agree with NCW practices that's ok. But we still respect them. But we can't respect people who spread evil and division . I think in Pius we have an extreme fundamental version of NCW which is unhealthy, unbalanced, and unhinged. He spread his mess all over Guam creating hell.
Pius instructing presbyters to preach that Jesus is the second Adam. Jucatan echoed this heresy in his homily during mass this evening.
Anonymous. @ 10:05PM This is not a heresy. Jesus is considered the new "Adam" and Mother Mary is the new "Eve."From the Catechism of the Catholic Church (which Tim has copies available at the CCOG meetings. Emphasis mine):504 Jesus is conceived by the Holy Spirit in the Virgin Mary's womb because he is the New Adam, who inaugurates the new creation: "The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven."162 From his conception, Christ's humanity is filled with the Holy Spirit, for God "gives him the Spirit without measure."163 From "his fullness" as the head of redeemed humanity "we have all received, grace upon grace."164505 By his virginal conception, Jesus, the New Adam, ushers in the new birth of children adopted in the Holy Spirit through faith. "How can this be?"165 Participation in the divine life arises "not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God".166 The acceptance of this life is virginal because it is entirely the Spirit's gift to man. The spousal character of the human vocation in relation to God167 is fulfilled perfectly in Mary's virginal motherhood.
There is no justice for priests on Guam with tony here. Grave injustices to our priests going back 30 years. Only since Mr. Tim Rohr began this informative publication can we express our concerns concerning Tony's injustices and sickening psychpath actions.
It is interesting to me that almost all commenters here at Jungle Watch do not bother anymore to capitalize the proper name of apuron or anything referring to him as archbishop. This seems a blatant disregard for his importance and shows utter disrespect. I concur with all who deliberately do this, because we cannot respect and will never regain such respect for a puny man whose reign simply left victims in its wake. So sad, he has to go, before the Archdiocese totally loses respect.
6.21pm. Good observation . Even official letters sent to Rome use smallLetters for his name.Interesting to also note John " typhoon " Toves produced a dramatic jig jag video clip. Video forwarded to Vatican. As one secretary stated " " Unfortunate for the church Archbishop of Guam is perceived by his Archdiocese in such light"
Call me tony....... Who would respect a complete drunken idiot...........call me tony...................ok tony boy.
Only less than 1000 NEO/NCW Cult Followers respect this evil man (NEO Presbyter Anthony Apuron). What spiritual Leader would deny a priest from God's Holy House (Local Parish Church)? What spiritual leader would spread lies to not only his flock but also the Diocese about a Holy Priest that's only crime was not following this evil Cult called the NEO/NCW which is led not by an ordained minister, but a man that cares more about making money than saving souls. AAA further threatened that Father Gary was not to step foot into any church on Guam. Father Gary would hide in back of churches during Mass so he could fulfill his Sunday obligation and pay respects to Our Lord and Savior ever present in the Holy Eucharist. Finally, when Father Gary was able to get back to the archbishop of Cebu to explain his situation, he found out that AAA rushed to the Philippines ahead of him with a concocted story of disobedience and other sins about Father Gary. AAA repeated the same story to everyone on Guam who believed him. This is one of many instances where Presbyter Tony has mistreated the Holy Men of the cloth and the Flock he was entrusted to Shepard. This Evil, Deceitful and Unholy Man must go.....
New cardinal of Tonga personal friend of Archbishop Krebs. We should invite the pacific cardinal to visit our Island. Cardinal is a humble man . He is going to Manila September so I'm sure very easy to make a side trip to Guam. Once more he will travel economy own expense..... First class naaa..... Call me tony.......