Monday, May 26, 2014

HERE'S A GOOD ONE

We sure do learn a lot about the Neocatechumenal Way thanks to Diana. Here's another one from a commenter:
What difference does it make? According to an article and a youtube message on Diana's post there are various ways of celebrating the liturgy. The Orthodox Catholic, the Byzantine Catholic the Anglecan, etc. who have asked to return to the Roman Catholic Church still celebrate the liturgy/mass/ communion rite according to there belief. So what makes the NCW different? If they are taking certain practices from these religious group does that make them nonconforming to the rites of the Catholic Church? 
The woman knows how to prove that their practices are legitimate. There is no counterattack on this post.
Well the difference is that the Mass celebrated by the Neocatechumenal Way is not its own "rite". The Mass or "eucharist" as celebrated by the Neocatechumenal Way is (supposed to be) the Roman Rite, and there is only ONE Roman Rite. There is no Neocatechumenal Rite. The Mass, as celebrated by the Neocatechumenal Way is governed by the liturgical books of the Roman Rite with the exceptions noted in the Statute of the Neocatechumenal Way.

Because the "eucharist", as celebrated by the Neocatechumenal Way - specifically in the communion rite - violates the norms of the Roman Rite and the exceptions allowed by the Statute, the "eucharist" as celebrated by the Neocatechumenal Way is illicit

This is not a judgement or an opinion. There is no judgement or opinion needed. It is the same as if a person in the state of mortal sin receives communion and in doing so commits a sacrilege. No letter from the pope is necessary. It is simply true by the fact itself. 

Conform to your Statute and problem over. Simple. The fact that our pointing this simple fact out has produced the most inane ranting and raving from the Kiko's over these many months is towering evidence that there is something else going on. Something else, indeed!

11 comments:

  1. A Catholic is a Catholic. Does it matter how the liturgy is celebrated? Statutes approved by Rome! Liturgy approved by Rome! What more is there to say? NONE!

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    1. Statutes approved by Rome, yes. Follow them. Liturgy approved by Rome, No. Only the exceptions noted in the Statute. Feel free to prove me wrong.

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    2. But you're right. It doesn't matter how the liturgy is celebrated...to the Neocatechumenal Way. That's because you are a different church.

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  2. The Pope put his stamp of approval,per say and there is nothing you can do about it. Accept the fact that the NCW is not going away for a long, long, time! Not now! Not ever!

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    1. The Pope, Pope Benedict, put his stamp of approval on the Statute you were given. Follow it. Pope Franics (Feb. 1) put his stamp of approval on the good that you do. He put his stamp of disapproval on the bad that you do. Read it.

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  3. ANGLECAN? Really, Diana ? According to "there" belief? No words!

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  4. Don't think Diana is MS Dulles. She is smarter than this cr-p.

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  5. In our community Eucharist in the Agana community we begun small activities that bring people to Jesus. For example I am writing the preface to the Eucharist and the church approves this . Everyone present blesses the Eucharist and it has meaning. Later the NCW will have its own eucharist. Don't be afraid to join the community and experience The way.

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    1. This may be an impostor comment, so members from the Agana community are welcome to clarify if this is not true. However, the NCW already uses a preface that is not approved, so this may not be far off the mark.

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    2. Feels like a cult, talks like a cult, acts like a cult...NO THANK YOU! I'll stick with the Magisterium of the Church.

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  6. It is important to recognize that the reason why the NCW uses a different liturgy than the regular RCC is because its liturgical deviations reflect significant theological differences which are very important to Kiko. This is not an issue of form vs. substance. The form and the substance cannot -- in an RCC liturgy -- be disaggregated. The NCW liturgy is different (and different by design) because the NCW is theologically different from the RCC.

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