Friday, July 11, 2014

DEAR ARCHBISHOP KREBS

We thank you for your visit and for your wish to celebrate Mass with us (Sunday, St. Jude's, Sinajana, 8:30am). I heard the pastor there, Fr. Gus, took quite a grilling from Archbishop Apuron when he found out that you would be mixing with us little people. But no worries. We think it's great that you will be celebrating Mass in an ordinary village parish. 

We have also  heard that you may be joining Archbishop Apuron and his personal Neo-community at his home for their Saturday night Neo-Eucharist, or perhaps attend a Neo-Eucharist at the Neo-Seminary. 

Either way, we are hoping that Archbishop Apuron, who is sure to celebrate in either location, will not make an exception for your presence and cheat you out of experiencing an authentic Neo-Eucharist, complete with the congregation standing during the consecration, distributing the consecrated host to the communicants before his own communion, and everyone consuming the host while seated.

If these practices are permitted and regularly practiced, then Archbishop Apuron SHOULD NOT change them to conform to the liturgical books simply because you will be there. In fact, he may show you the documents permitting these practices, in which case you can then put all our questions to rest since he won't. 

I also hope that they will not omit the dancing around the flower-laden table in the end. Maybe you will be moved to join them. Given your heritage a polka or at least a Strauss waltz would be more appropriate. But alas, nothing but Kiko Arguello-approved dance steps will be permitted.  I hear they are not hard though. Nevertheless, enjoy! 





15 comments:

  1. I hope that the planned meetings with the Clergy will not include Archbishop Apuron.

    Archbishop Krebs, the fear of retribution is very real in this small island of ours and you should take that into consideration.

    As for the clergy, although I recognize that there will be Neo-Priests also attending this meeting with Archbishop Krebs, I hope that the Non-Neo Priests will speak up, reflecting the
    voice of their parishioners.


    There is such a thing as obedience to higher authority, but that should end when being obedient allows abuse (financial and otherwise) to happen. Someone once said, "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing."

    What are our parish priests doing?

    Frank

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    1. The meeting on Monday will be in the Archbishop's presence, so you can be sure nothing will happen there. Just the way he wants it. But the priests of the Archdiocese are not stupid and they are no longer willing to be bullied - at least some. They have something else planned.

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  2. You should attend the Eucharist to make sure they don't make the changes, Tim.

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    1. Everyone should attend. According to Article 13 § 2. of the Statute of the Neocatechumenal Way:

      "The celebrations of the Eucharist of the neocatechumenal communities on Saturday evening are part of the Sunday liturgical pastoral work of the parish and are open also to other faithful."

      So, everyone show up at the Archbishop's residence, Saturday night, 7:30pm. Actually any Saturday night. Don't expect pizza though. That's only on Sundays and pizza for all was not included in the Statute...yet.

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    2. We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza,We want Pizza, WHAT ABOUT US, ARCHBISHOP??

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    3. Maybe one Sunday night, we can all just show up. But don't plan on getting any pizza. We could bring our own and have a pizza-in.

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    4. :- ((( OK, Tim, we'll bring our own. Pizza be with you. I'm Sad.

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  3. Smell something very wrong. Making a lot of connections this morning . Mary Lou are you connecting the dots.

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  4. DIANA ANNOUNCEMENT: Now hear YE : "Archbishop Martin Krebs is scheduled to visit Guam on July 12-15. Most likely, he would be joining the Archbishop's community to celebrate the Eucharist in the Neocatechumenal Way. I actually hope so. The Papal Nuncio in the United States had celebrated the Eucharist with the Neocatechumenal Way, and they had no problems with it. Archbishop Krebs will also be meeting with the clergy.

    Thank YOU Princess Diana !

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    1. Dear Diana, Apostolic delegates are not authorized to "have problems with it", or with anything. Their job is simply to be the "nuncio", the voice between Rome and their district. They gather information and report back to the appropriate congregations and vice versa. Those congregations don't immediately respond either, as we see with Fr. Paul's case. And in most cases, Rome always tries to work behind the scenes to achieve a pastoral solution, and sometimes for decades. Meanwhile, because Rome does not respond, it does not mean that the rest of the Catholic world cannot require you to stay true to your Catholic credentials as provided in your Statute. Outside of your Statute, you are not Catholic.

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    2. Also, why would the nuncio have "problems with it". You DO NOT celebrate your usual version of the Eucharist when you have a papal visitor, just like Archbishop Apuron won't when Archbishop Krebs is present. He will do exactly what your Statute says to do, which is as follows:

      Art. 13 § 3. For the celebration of the Eucharist in the small communities the approved liturgical books of the Roman Rite are followed, with the exception of the explicit concessions from the Holy See. (49). See Footnote 49. Voila! Cardinal Arinze's letter.

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    3. Yep, and that's why Pope Benedict XVI ordered the investigations, which came to nothing and then was stopped by Pope Francis.

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    4. It probably doesn't occur to you that the investigation was actually concluded under Francis and he has opted for a pastoral approach instead of a disciplinary one. The fact is that Francis has NOT modified your statute. In fact, he recently publicly reminded Kiko to follow it. And even if you don't respect your own statute, we do.

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    5. Disobedience is a serious thing. The SSPX was excommunicated for disobedience. This is the liturgy we're talkin' about. That's more serious than not accepting Vatican II. Pope Franis excommunicated a priest for supporting women's ordination. There was no pastoral care there in that excommunication.

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    6. To clarify, the SSPX was not excommunicated. It's founder and four bishops were. They were excommunicated due to the founder consecrating the 4 new bishops without Rome's permission. The founder is now dead, and excommunication lifted, as it was for the bishops.

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