Tuesday, August 26, 2014

I WANNA BE RICH, OH YEAH, I WANNA BE RICH!

“All payroll checks issued for the pay period ending on Saturday, August 1, 2014, shall not be released until the Employee has acknowledged notification of this policy…” (Letter to Cathedral Employees, August 4, 2014)

Hmmm, Msgr. David and Archbishop Apuron, you both signed this. Did you run this past your legal counsel first? Withholding pay already earned unless the employee signs this? You can do this as a condition of employment BUT NOT AS A CONDITION OF RECEIVING PAY ALREADY EARNED!!!

Cathedral employees, former or otherwise, if you were forced to sign this to receive your paycheck, you may have already qualified for a much bigger paycheck. See your attorneys. And don't forget me...the "evil businessman"! LOL!






132 comments:

  1. Yep!! Work without compensation aka slavery. Those days are over. Yet another big mistake. Big. Huge. Obscene. Really offensive. Really Really offensive. (Ala pretty woman)

    ReplyDelete
  2. You should prepare for a lawsuit for posting this publicly? WHO GABE THIS TO YOU?! GET READY TIM!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anon 5:06 PM why are you assuming that Tim got this letter or any letter from someone? He just prayed to the Holy Spirit and it appeared. Same as the NCW priest...they don't prepare their homilies, the wait for the Holy Spirit and then they talk.

      What is wrong with you people. Having all these documents is a miracle, just as RMS is a miracle!

      Delete
    2. ^winner^ that above comment wins the internet for the day!

      Delete
    3. Ya Tim, how dare you publicly display all the stupid and evil things they do. It's all your fault. They only do these things because you publicly display them.

      Huh? Sorry Tim, I'm not sure where that came from, must be reading too much of Diana's stupidity lately.

      Delete
    4. Ya right 5:06 pm....like Tim is going to tell you who gabe it to him. And he should do this why? Because you ask? (This sounds more like Father Echivaldo, The Juice!)

      Delete
    5. Yah. I got it the same way they got the seminary. God.

      Delete
    6. I don't want to win a day on the internet, what I. Want to know is why there was a purple banner hanging in front of the pulpit at the Cathedral on Sunday which says Unity something, something?

      Next question is did Harold go to Korea to drive the Archbishop there?

      Third and final question...what happened to the priests who signed the letter and were summoned to the Chancery one by one?

      Delete
    7. Dear Anon at 5.06pm, are really you that stupid?
      Is it possible that you cannot even comprehend the concept of breaking labor laws?
      If somebody is going to get sued on this it is the Archdiocese,as an employer, the Archbishop who put his signature at the bottom of this illegal document, and of course poor moronic Adrian, who has not learned a thing since he left the seminary.
      But of course to learn you have to be willing to open your mind, which is beyond his intellectual capabilities.
      This is a whistle blowing case.
      If the local government pays any attention, we have an Archbishop that coerce employees to sign, post facto, a confidentiality agreement. (Total panic on board!)
      An Archbishop that hides a sexual predator, and lies to cover his exit, who violates the law of the Commonwealth, and possibly files false tax statements......whoa!
      And you!!!! poor lost soul!!!! stand there and think Tim is going to get sued!!!!
      I cannot believe the level of stupidity you exhibit!!!!
      Totally unbelievable......

      Delete
    8. Papers from heaven just keep dropping! What can I I say? It is truly a MIRACLE and it didn't cost the Archdiocese a penny...at least not yet!

      Delete
    9. Anonymous (August 26, 2014 at 9:48 PM), the purple "Unity and Charity" banner hanging on the pulpit at the 9:30 AM Mass on 24 August belonged to the Catholic Daughters of the Americas who were present for the installation of their new officers.

      Someone else will have to respond to your other questions. But I, like you, want to know what happened to the 5 brave priests who signed the letter. Did they ever meet with the Archbishop, per Fr. Adrian's statement on KUAM?

      Delete
    10. @5:06 yah, Tim, who GABE this to you? Life is a mystery.

      Delete
    11. Good old Sister Anna, OP worked away at the Chancery as Chancellor and no one heard a word about her. How did Prince ADRIAN make it into such a power position? Show off and abusing his role to SERVE, not Terrorize. Any wonder kids in your village didn't like you. Any wonder. Holy Terror

      Delete
    12. Janet B - MangilaoAugust 27, 2014 at 11:03 AM

      Anonymous August 26, 2014 at 5:06 PM - your question is a little misplaced, just as misplaced as the attempt by Tony Baloney, David the JCD, and Adrian are misplaced in their effort to stop truth from leaking out to the public.

      First, truth will always find its way out, and it should be our Church leaders who lead this charge. Instead, they are the ones trying to destroy truth. It just isn't going to happen.

      Second, if they think the average employee at the Cathedral Gift Shop is the cause of all these leaks, they are sadly naive. All the documents that have found their way to the light of truth have come from high sources, because the three banditos on the hill would never let these documents be reviewed by mere employees. With all the lies and back room deals being made, they are smart enough to know to keep these things in a very tight and small circle of trust.

      So asking employees to sign a ridiculous confidentiality document is worthless. These leaks are coming from the very top echelon. Some one with great personal ambition, who wants to climb one step higher. Obviously, not the Archbishop. Who in their right mind would inflict such self injury? So, who in this top tier of trust is the mole?

      I don't pretend to know, but if Tony really wants to put away his shoes ruined everytime he steps in more doo-doo, then he needs to look at his own best advisers to see where all this intel is coming from.

      In the meantime, Anonymous August 26, 2014 at 5:06 PM, what you really should be asking is not where these documents are coming from, but is there really any reason why these should not be readily available to any Catholic who wishes to inspect the daily activities of OUR Church. There really is no need for secrecy if there is nothing to hide, is there?

      Delete
    13. Anon 5:08.....I gave it to Tim, so what you want to do about it?

      Delete
    14. Correction....I meant Anon 5:06.....Anyhow, what does it matter how Tim received the letter. Talk on the issue, that being that this letter is a clear violation in holding back wages earned. You hide behind anonymity and think you wont be found out?

      Delete
  3. This should also be brought to the attention of the federal Dept of Labor office on island. Definitely illegal. Hmm, maybe I'll contact them myself.
    Eileen Benavente-Blas

    ReplyDelete
  4. Sounds like a gag order. How do those two define what is confidential?
    Eileen Benavente-Blas

    ReplyDelete
  5. Totally illegal! By law employers must pay salaries earned within 7 days of the end of the pay period. Cannot hold their pay!!!

    ReplyDelete
  6. Sue Tim for what? He's not beholden to anyone at the chancery. Fortunately for him he's not a priest. Can't get removed, lied about, displaced, sent back to the PI etc.

    ReplyDelete
  7. Info for Tony and Adrian,
    Hope they've prepared their spin for the federal Dept of Labor. I am definitely notifying the feds. Bullies come in all guises...

    "It is unlawful for an employer to attach any conditions to the receipt of wages or monies owed to an employee for services performed. Even if there is no written agreement, you have an implied-in-fact contract with your employer that in exchange for services performed by you, you are entitled to agreed upon compensation. If the employer fails or refuses to pay rigthfully earned wages, the employer may be liable under theories of breach of contract, unjust enrichment, and conversion."

    Eileen Benavente-Blas

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Oops, I should have said "David" not "Adrian." Mea culpa...
      Eileen Benavente-Blas

      Delete
    2. So you wanna be part of this also Eileen? Please answer, are you sure.

      Delete
    3. Wow! Check that out. Both a bully and a coward. Aren't they always. You got caught with your pants down so now you're threatening a woman. Freak.

      Delete
    4. 7:00,

      Humble yourself and accept that they are wrong. Go ahead and threaten, but don't forget to smile because your on candid IP address camera. EBB is no coward, unlike you being all internet tuff.

      Delete
    5. Call in the Labor dept!!!! These guys are nuts and off their rockers!

      Delete
    6. You go girl!!!!

      Delete
  8. I hear some of them refused to sign the confidentiality form and Jackie Terlaje got pissed off at them. Good for the ones who refused to sign!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Was it a notification acknowledgement or did they have to sign on the dotted line agreeing to some terms?

      Delete
    2. Janet B - MangilaoAugust 27, 2014 at 4:43 PM

      Jackie Terlaje is an agent of the court. As an attorney she should know better, but apparently the KAKA has blinded her legal senses. Who ever files a labor complaint should also include Atty Terlaje, maybe the Guam Bar will sanction her!

      Delete
  9. Please former cathedral staff take this letter to the dept of labor. Suggest a class action case against the archbishop .

    ReplyDelete
  10. Time to call in the Feds.

    ReplyDelete
  11. Cathedral staff who signed this need to group together and file a case .

    ReplyDelete
  12. Good for them. Did they get their paychecks???
    Eileen Benavente-Blas

    ReplyDelete
  13. After reading and reading all that is happening within our church I've come to realize that up until a year ago I myself was a lost soul "lost my way, lost my way to our church and most shamefully lost my faith in our lord.
    But through help of my family I have found my "WAY", my way back to our ONE HOLY APOSTOLIC CHURCH!
    I am a faithful parishioner of St. Joseph church,Inarajan and didn't know of the existance of the Neo way and I feel so blessed to not know of them during my most vulnerable time.

    As for Monsignor David, I looked up to you as my friend, my pale, and most of all as a messenger of our lord and I'm deeply disappointed in seeing your name/signature of this.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Suggest this document is faxed into the dept of labor immediately. Can someone please do this and confirm on this page.

      Delete
  14. Is Jackie Terlaje both with the cathedral and the cemetery? Is her services pro bono? We have attorneys too. She must be the God given attorney for the NEOS!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. And not a very bright one at that.

      Delete
    2. Jackie Terlaje is known to be an excellent attorney. Unfortunately, she's on the wrong side.

      Delete
  15. Knowledge is power!!!

    Guam Area Office
    US Dept. of Labor
    Wage & Hour Division
    520 West Soledad Ave.
    Hagatna, Guam 96910-4950
    Phone:
    (671) 473-9178
    1-866-4-USWAGE
    (1-866-487-9243)
    Patrick Candoleta
    Asst. District Director
    -------------------------
    Eileen Benavente- Blas

    ReplyDelete
  16. Bwaahahhahahaha,...letter after letter...after letter...after letter...after letter.

    Can't wait to see what stupid thing they do next.

    Bwahahahahhaaha....the three stooges foiled by their own idiocy again.

    That's what you get for turning your back on the Mother Church, and lying, cheating and stealing from her in the process. God is not sleeping.

    ReplyDelete
  17. Shocking. shame on you Anthony.

    ReplyDelete

  18. Three of them are no longer sentire cum ecclesia.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. This is the result for placing inexperience managers in these positions. Awaiting more ineptness with the operation of the Mother Church. A bunch of wanna be.

      Delete
  19. I might be wrong, but is think the Director of the Dept. of Labor is a catechist. So good luck with taking this case to them if it's true. Good opportunity though to see where the directors loyalties lie.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Can't mix your fed job with religion! He has no choice but to entertain or people going to higher ups!

      Delete
    2. I don't think the governor will put up with the director should the director mishandle or sabotage the complaint(s). To be on the safe side, the governor should be advised on the director's conflict of interest when filing the complaint(s).

      Delete
    3. If that director fails to take proper action and use his position to coverup a legal case, not only could he lose his job, but he could also be indicted under the law for corruption.

      Delete
  20. Wow!!! This is just crazy. I hope you all file, I never want to go against Mother Church, but this is just ridiculous. People and their families are depending on monies earned. I pray that they are able to sustain and that this craziness subsides.

    ReplyDelete
  21. This is too much already. Apuron needs to go! Stepping down isn't enough. An island wide petition is needed.

    ReplyDelete
  22. OMG is what God is probably saying about right now? David and Tony, you guys are a class act. Shame on you Jackie for being a part of this too! I guess the Neo movement is more important then truth and justice. The Guam bar should look into this harassment.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. While I don't think there is enough here for the Bar Assoc to make a case against Jackie, it is sadly obvious that the legal advise given by this poor excuse for a lawyer is really not a good one.
      Any first year Law school student would get an F on such work.

      Delete
  23. Terrible legal advice. Whistleblowers are always protected. They must have stuff they want to hide. Shameful conduct coming from our church. It's what you would expect from the Third Reich.

    ReplyDelete
  24. What the Archbishop is doing here is illegal. All employees who have been discharged must receive their final paycheck immediately upon discharge. All employees who have left employment voluntarily must receive their final paycheck on the next regular payday. The payment of the final paycheck cannot be withheld or conditioned. The pertinent law is set forth below. I urge anyone who refused to sign the agreement and whose wages are being withheld, as well as anyone who signed the agreement in order to obtain their wages, to contact both the Guam Department of Labor and the Office of the Attorney General. The pertinent law and contact info are set forth below.

    Guam Law

    22 GCA § 3201. Wages to be Paid, When.

    The earned wages of all employees shall be due and payable within seven (7) days after the end of each pay period, except that:

    (a) the earned wages of all employees discharged the employer either with or without cause shall be immediately due and payable upon discharge;

    (b) if an employee leaves his employment voluntarily, his earned wages shall be due and payable on the next regular pay day;

    22 GCA § 3205. Criminal Penalty.

    Any person who, having the ability to pay, intentionally refuses to pay wages due and payable when demanded or who violates any provision of §§ 3201 through 3204 of this Title shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

    Who to Contact to File Complaint?

    -- Guam Department of Labor

    (671) 475-7024
    (671) 300-4601/2

    -- Office of the Attorney General, Guam

    (671) 475-3324
    (671) 475-3406
    (671) 475-3360

    -- US Department of Labor

    http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/wages/lastpaycheck.htm

    ReplyDelete
  25. UncleScrewtape: Damn you Wormwood you conniving fiend, your lack of experience has once again exposed our intellectual paucity and stupidity to even the novice of faithful. You will pay for this blunder dearly I promise. Your promise of deliverance of 'him', The Prize has yet to be realised, you will deliver him! do you understand!
    Wormwood: Please Uncle I'm at the cusp of victory, you must let me play out this whole episode, see! I've caused even more distress and coiling in our enemies household, it's just a matter of time before the whole lot fall into our friends inveiglement, him who is at 'the Hill'.
    UncleScrewtape: Well then you must act quickly, summon your siblings, Glabose and Toudpipe and make a even bigger mess of this house that our enemy, that Diego San Vitores seized from us so long ago, it is after all the prized jewel we yearn for. Keep close your three 'Friends' at the Hill, and those dressed in Black who encamp themselves at the edge of the cove. But beware Wormwood, beware of that 'man' Diego, for his stature has been elevated, it has yet to be revealed but he is the driving force behind our enemies, those who are behind the Truth, they must not know this. You must stop him and his at all cost. Now begone and secure The Prized one...and more souls for your father below!
    Wormwood: Yes Uncle, you will see, more division, destruction, confusion and irreverence in our enemies House.

    ReplyDelete

  26. archbishop are you above the Law?

    ReplyDelete
  27. O my gosh! How dumb can they get? If they are so hung up about leaking out the policy, and identifying the whistleblower, why didn't they number each notice before it is handed out to each employee? That way, when the notice is leaked out, and gets duplicated, they can trace by the number in an attempt to identify the whistleblower (of course, the whistleblower could always black out any identification mark on the notice).

    Not that that really matters, because even if the whistleblower is identified, the case of ILLEGAL WITHHOLDING OF WAGES still remains valid. This certainly appears to be a bona fide case of ILLEGAL WITHHOLDING OF WAGES - never mind the policy and whistleblowing. And, yes - possibly an harassment issue to boot! ("I won't pay you until you sign!")

    Get ready, folks! We may have a different type of battle at bay here. And the NEOS can't say that we were the cause of this potential legal battle brewing; the letter wasn't ours! OOOPS. I'm sorry, I guess they can (and most probably will still) say that we are the liars, that we fabricated this whole story up against His Excellency, and how cruel and evil can we get!!! It is their modus operandi! I guess it will be all Tim's fault again!! Just watch for the Neo diehards to come out en masse to defend their hero, who can do no wrong, and can tell no lie!

    You good Neo guys and gals, wake up and smell the coffee. We want you back in the True Fold with us. It is not too late! Abandon ship, before the Titanic sinks!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Janet B - MangilaoAugust 27, 2014 at 10:27 AM

      The NCW is not the Titanic. It is literally a "little dingy"! Diana, Adrian, David and Tony prove this every day!

      Delete
    2. Sorry, Janet. I didn't mean to be so condescending by using the Titanic in the analogy. You're right; "little dingy" is more like it. I just meant to emphasise the message to bail out NOW, before the mess gets messier.

      Delete
    3. Janet B - MangilaoAugust 27, 2014 at 4:56 PM

      Right on, I'm with you sister. I tried being civil to Tony Baloney after a neighbor suggested I was being rude to a man of the cloth. I was successful for a few months, but still disagreed with him. But as he always does, Tony Baloney finally hit a new low, and proved to me once again he was not worth even an ounce of respect.
      Like you, I feel for the good neos who actually get spiritual nourishment from their community. They depend on the neo for guidance. But if they continue to remain silent in the face of all the corruption that has been revealed, the neo will be taken away from them forever. They need to speak out against the leadership that is running the garbage scow aground. The more the good neos remain silent, the deeper the little dingy sinks.
      There are only two ways to save themselves (the good neos). Toss the dead weight overboard (your corrupted leaders), or bail out and swim over to Holy Mother Church. Just make sure you decide before it's too late!

      Delete
  28. http://www.shrm.org/LegalIssues/StateandLocalResources/StateandLocalStatutesandRegulations/Documents/wagepaymentlaw.pdf

    The 1st commandment in business - never mess with your employees paycheck.

    Guess they've gone 3rd world dictatorship? Tyrants!

    ReplyDelete
  29. To: Anonymous August 26, 2014 at 7:00 PM
    Who said to me
    "So you wanna be part of this also Eileen? Please answer, are you sure."
    Yes, I am sure. An employer cannot withhold an employee's paycheck. Doing so is against federal and local law. I've reported an employer before for cheating employees out of overtime pay. The feds did an investigation and the employer was made to pay the overtime. Most of these employees were not aware that they deserved overtime pay. This company has since gone out of business. So I am not afraid to do what I feel I have to do when employees are treated unfairly.
    Are you threatening me?
    Eileen Benavente-Blas

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Good for you, Eileen. And yes he is. And I believe we both know who he is.

      Delete
    2. Atta girl, Eileen! Be strong in your resolve, because you are absolutely correct. This IS a case of "illegal withholding of wages". Their counter-attack on you is just another example of their modus operandi - if you can't defend the position, try attacking the person: a classic "ad hominem" logic fallacy.

      Delete
  30. You can tell how full the Archbishop is of himself just by the way he signs his name. He makes it a point to sign Most Rev and even his Doctorate of Divinity! Years ago as a student at FD I remember thinking how foolish that looked. Clearly not a humble man, but one who is obsessed with letters before after his name!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. @6:03 pm that D.D. after Archies name stands for Dodo bird. Flightless, extinct bird. SERIOUSLY, that doctorate is not an earned degree it is an honorific for bishops. MOST bishops consider it TACKY to use it nowadays, but not Dodo of Agana.

      Delete
    2. 6.03am. Good observation. study how he signs his name and the formation of the letters!

      Delete
    3. D.D.= Dumb Dumb
      D.D.= Delusional Disorder
      D.D = Dysfunctional Disorder
      D.D.= Dimasao Dakon (always lying)
      D.D. = Direct Destruction

      and the list can go on!

      Delete
  31. AAA will be visiting and "celebrating" mass at Father Duenas Memorial School today. I hope he is prepared to answer some questions. My son may have a few regarding why majority of the Parishes have NEO Priests and what is happening with our local Dioceses Seminary. Praying for a real answer based on facts, not deception or skirting our the question/issue. He is VERY curious as to why the Archbishop has to say.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. You let your son go to FD but yet your against the Archnishop? Why don't you send him to HARVEST instead. Hypocrit!

      Delete
    2. It will be on Thursday. BTW parents are invited to attend....

      Delete
    3. 8:36 Your post shows that you don't know the proper usage of "your" and you accused someone of being a "hypocrit". What's a hypocrit? Oh, you meant hypocrite. Did you get your education from the seminary? LOL

      Delete
    4. It doesn't matther 10:02 because it's not the 'Archnishop' that you're against. What is that anyway?

      Delete
    5. LOL - all seminarians graduate with honors. The best get the Summa cum loudly award.

      Delete
    6. Yah, get ready for the shouting of Harold the Loud.

      Delete
  32. Janet B - MangilaoAugust 27, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    THERE IS HOPE!!!
    At least Adrian has gotten smart enough to not put his name on this document. Only Tony Baloney and David the JCD played the part of fools.

    If Adrian keeps learning, he might rise to the level of being a real priest, except of course for his homily equating Tony with God. Really shameful use of the pulpit. Oops, I take it all back....

    THERE IS NO HOPE!!!!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. It is my personal foolishness to hope. However, must say not too easy.

      Delete
  33. It would be very inappropriate and disrespectful for students or anyone for that matter to use Archbishop Apuron's visit to Father Duenas as a forum to confront him on "controversial" matters that do not pertain to his visit. It sounds like the Archbishop is being set up for an "ambush" by individuals who want to use the visit for their own antagonistic agenda. I sure hope Fr. Jeff, the FDMS principal, does not allow the kind of confrontation that is being suggested in this blog. If that were to happen, I would have very little respect and credibilty for what Jungle Watch is wanting to accomplish.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Bullshit! The bishop needs to be transparent with the NCW and his plans to implement this NCW in all the churches. He needs to start respect us.

      Delete
    2. Go back to the Diana blog and make your statement there.

      Delete
    3. Ambush?? If Archie has nothing to hide, he shouldn't consider this an ambush.

      Delete
    4. Anonymous (August 27, 2014 at 10:56 AM), you believe that “(i)t would be very inappropriate and disrespectful for students … to use Archbishop Apuron’s visit to Father Duenas … to confront him on ‘controversial’ matters that do not pertain to his visit” while it was totally appropriate and acceptable for that same Archbishop to tell the students at Notre Dame High School “don’t believe what you hear and read on blogs”?

      Inasmuch as it was the Archbishop who first brought up the topic of blogs, he pretty much opened that door. There may have been some NDHS students who had not paid much attention to this particular blog, but chances are that as soon as he admonished them, they couldn’t wait to see what all the fuss was about. It is part of our fallen nature that, when we are told NOT to do something, we immediately act is opposition and DO the very thing we’re told not to do. So, by telling the students NOT to “believe want you hear and read on blogs” the Archbishop inadvertently encouraged them to check it out for themselves.

      The students at FDMS — and those at other high schools — have inquisitive minds and are encouraged to be critical thinkers. Do not for a moment think that they accept everything they read without question; I’m sure many of the students have discussed these topics. So they WILL HAVE QUESTIONS — they may opt for “non-controversial” questions or they may ask the harder “controversial” ones. Whether or not the Archbishop will be willing to respond to the latter is another matter.

      BTW: Whether or not you have “respect and credibility for what Jungle Watch is wanting to accomplish” is for you to determine and I agree with Anonymous at 11:18 AM — your comment is better suited for “Diana’s” blog since that’s where all the lack of respect and credibility for this blog actually exists.

      Delete
    5. By now, the Archbishop should be prepared to encounter questions wherever he goes.

      As to the appropriateness of the event, as long as it is not a solemn occasion, I don't think he should be surprised. However, if Pale Jeff deems it so, he should make some sort of directives for the students on how to conduct themselves and their questions.

      Additionally, I am sure the Archbishop or someone close to him is now aware of a potential line of questions per this thread.

      Delete
    6. At 10:56AM: I sure hope you were not educated at a Catholic school because your belief that it is inappropriate to question the Archbishop is contrary to everything that I learned from the Mercy nuns at Mercy Heights and SAS, my teachers at FDMS, and the Jesuits in law school. I was always taught to be "strong in the faith," but never was I taught not to question our faith. In fact, I was taught the opposite. It was in Mr. Bonifacio's FD Theology class where I learned how to think critically about and appreciate the Catholic church at the same time. It was in Fr. George's class where I came to embrace the social justice teachings of the church. When I speak to my Catholic colleagues here in the mainland about my Catholic education experience on Guam, they are surprised that I was exposed to such progressive views (FD's health class even taught us about contraception). Many people have become disillusioned with the church, but I think it is because of my Catholic educators on Guam that I continue to remain strong in the faith. Fellow Friars--Pope Francis said to make a mess in your diocese at the most recent World Youth Day. I hope you take his words to heart when the Archbishop comes to visit you. NEVER doubt the value of your Catholic education. Fortes in Fides! Alum, Class of 2001.

      Delete
    7. 10:56 Don't get your panty all tied up in a knot!! There shouldn't be any problem if the Archbishop has nothing to hide and can substantiate his actions or inactions....so relax!

      Delete
  34. Hope the "Way" can save the Archdiocese when Dept. of Labor comes investigating and the employees file a class action lawsuit in Federal Court. The team of lawyers at the archdiocese can't squirm their "way" out of this one. Their intention is not to make the Cathedral or Archbishop bankrupt in fact they money they get (And they will get) will go towards the Capuchins, Notre Dame Convent, and the Carmelites. So pass that trash bag around cause daddy's cashing in and papa need some new shoes!

    ReplyDelete
  35. Archbishop has school visits, where he entertains questions from students. He must do this with US--- the real Catholics of the Church!

    Tim, could this opportunity be set up?

    When and Where?

    We will be there!!!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Speaking from experience (I was at AOLG at the time), he will skirt around the issues. I asked him a question regarding wrongfully accused laypeople and their accusers, and I stood there enduring a 5+ (seemingly) minute lecture on popes in the dark ages

      Delete
  36. Anon @10:56.....,aye ya yay.. Archie sympathizer, but never mind that he is up to his ears in deception and never mind that you ignore that a group of ex employees paycheck is being illegally withheld. Get off your mis directed righteous position. You do not fool me. You state that "You would have little respect and credibility for what JW is wanting to accomplish"? How disingenuous...you already prematurely expose your judge jury hangman bias! So a parent shares that her FD son has questions and concerns and that parent prays for factual answers and not deceptions . You in the meantime respond with words like "confront him on controversial" "set up for an ambush" "antagonistic agenda ", "kind of confrontational suggested" !!!
    Those are really intense emotions of words that you are applying to what a parent is simply stating that is happening at the school. How little Faith you have and how blinded you are in discerning good vs evil. Please spare the hypocrisy and go find your voice that is guided by conscience!

    ReplyDelete
  37. The Archbishop is coming to Father Duenas tomorrow for his annual school visit. Come join us, friends and family are invited. I'm excited about this visit, for the first time in my Catholic education I have real questions I want answered by the Archbishop.
    Stayed tuned for the report hopefully there is no GAG order on us.... and Father Jeff allows us to speak our minds and ask the difficult questions. Fortes In Fide!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies

    1. We want to ask archbishop about Tagatay Treatmemt!

      Delete
    2. Janet B - MangilaoAugust 27, 2014 at 10:41 PM

      Good for you, young one. You are our hope. I prayed a rosary for you today, that your question may open the hardened heart of our Spiritual Leader, His Excellency Tony Baloney.

      Be strong tomorrow, and the truth will let you free. It is an amazing feeling!!!

      Delete
  38. What a consolation to read the U Matuna and find out Arch went to visit Korea with no less than three Neo BFFs...Edivaldo and of course Harold. Doesn't sound like a lottery. Soon Arch and Harold will be off to Columbia! BTW, Diana got to speak with important Vatican clerics in Italian! What an opportunity for an ordinary young woman!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. You can view pictures of his Korea visit here: http://www.aganaarch.org/7850/archbishop-apuron-in-korea/

      Delete
    2. Janet B - MangilaoAugust 27, 2014 at 11:50 PM

      These photos are priceless. Tony Baloney spends precious moments with Pope Kiko. Photos complement of Fr Suck her Juice.

      First photo caption reads "Archbishop Apuron shares a moment with Pope Francis, Korea". Pope Francis face reads: "Are you really Korean, or is your father Filipino?"

      Second photo caption reads "Archbishop Anthony had the privilege of personally greeting Pope Francis after the Mass of the Beatification of Paul Yun Ji-chung and 123 martyrs in the Gwanghwamun Square in central Seoul, the capital city of South Korea." Pope Francis face reads: "Security! I need to get to my car but this imposer is in my Way!"

      Third caption reads "During his stay in South Korea, Archbishop Anthony was housed at the same hotel as Monsignor Guido Marini. Marini, right, is the Master of Ceremony for the Holy Father." Faces on poor priests assigned to actual pope reads: "We don't know who this kook is, but he is not on the list of approved dignitaries. Let's surround him to keep him away from the Holy Father, he may be DANGEROUS! Thank God he doesn't know the Pope is at a different, secret hotel to protect him from wanna-be bishops. What a LOSER!"

      Tony Baloney has no shame. He will impose himself anywhere trying to justify himself, besides his failures.12 months ago Kiko would have used this as a photo op that Pope Francis supports the NCW. Now, knowing what they do about the lack of abilities of Tony, they will not post anything on the official KAKA web site.

      Only question remaining is does Fr OJ think these photo lies actually justify your costs for the trip? Who paid for Deacon Harold?

      Delete
  39. How about keeping this at the adult conversational level and not be childish?...

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Cool it. This is still a blog; not an instruction manual. Sheesh, @

      Delete
  40. @anon at 10:56 Please attend in good Faith. I have absolute confidence that these fine men are capable of civil discourse. If the Archbishop has nothing to hide he has nothing to fear. Advise to the Archbishop, simply speak the TRUTH.
    Fortes in Fide, for God and for Guam!

    ReplyDelete
  41. I notice too that now that there is a NEO take over the 5:45 am mass is packed! Wow same as us, we move to where we are comfortable with. Why the sudden interest in the 5:45am mass now NEO? Where have you been? This is the daily morning mass mind you me! Why didn't you people attend this mass before??? OOPS, need to support the NEO presbyters, my bad!

    Why don't you all now offer to do the readings, say the rosary in Chamorros, etc? Oops, are you all going to make changes at this daily morning mass too?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes, God works in mysterious ways. He's slowly bringing them back to Mother Church. They are finally starting to see the light.

      Delete
    2. Yes we are taking over. We are going to show you how to pray.

      Delete
    3. Our Archbishop is right! Didn't you read Ric Eusebio's article today? The NCW is THEEEEEEEE only way! You all need to listen and obey...this includes you, Tommy Tanaka and all the Yona crowd. It's been a losing battle for you all! We will NEVER GO AWAY!

      The bottom line is WE WILL DEFINITELY TEACH YOU ALL HOW TO PRAY!

      Delete
    4. For the 5:45am mass alter server, you are doing things the wrong way! Please check with the presbyter who you can see or talk about this. BTW, the old man can also retire!

      We are now the new blood in the church....all others move over!

      Delete
    5. Didn't you read the Pope's promulgation of the way? There is no mention of approval for a Chamorro mass or rosary.

      Delete
    6. By old man you must be referring to the Arch or Father Pius.....I agree they need to retire....

      Delete
    7. Janet B - MangilaoAugust 27, 2014 at 10:44 PM

      Coming soon, according to a Cathedral friend of mine...masses at 5:45 will be in Spanish rather than Chamorro? Disgusting. They should learn our language \, not the other Way around!

      Delete
    8. Just wondering.....do the neos pay when they use church facilities for their separate masses?

      Delete
    9. Hahaha...the old man that helps the altar server! Get up and go to 5:45 daily morning mass. Join us and you will see! Come and pray with us. Are you a lazy bone?

      Delete
    10. Okay, once again anon 10:55 the answer is NO!!!!!!! THEY DON'T EVEN TURN IN THEIR SATURDAY NIGHT CELEBRATION COLLECTION...I KNOW..I COUNT FOR A CHURCH. WE COUNT THE COLLECTION AFTER EVERY MASS, WALLA NO MONEY FROM THE NEOS....

      Delete
    11. To the Anonymous poster at 7:54 PM:

      Correction: It's Altar Server. As a former leader myself, I cringe when people misspell the name of the ministry. These are young individuals who were inspired early in their lives to assist our priests in the celebration of the Mass, and in some parishes are called the Knights of the Altar.

      All it shows is that you have a low level of education, or rarely stick around to get to know the other ministries listed in your parish's bulletin.

      Secondly, don't you dare disrespect the faithful who show up at all times during the week to prepare for Mass and help to ensure that the entire ritual goes smoothly so that those of the congregation will maintain its attention on the focal point of our celebration. How dare you mock the volunteer (both the Altar Server and the faithful member of our congregation) who both woke up in the wee hours of the morning, got ready, and headed over to prepare for the upcoming celebration? Do you have no shame whatsoever?

      And to say we're doing things wrong? No you idiot - we're following the rites prescribed by the Sacramentary and Ordo, books that have been in existence long before your "Way" showed up. If you don't know what those are, check your parish priest. Maybe you just might be granted a tour of your parish's sacristy to have a chance to read it.

      Oh, and to the Anonymous poster on August 27 at 8:02 PM-

      Read up on Vatican II. Prior to Vatican II, Masses were entirely in Latin. However, during this council it was decided that the Mass could be said in the vernacular language of the country. Therefore, you have Masses in every language possible.

      And if you're not sure what Vatican II was, then do a search. You'll also find that its members included 4 cardinals who would become popes. So...I'm pretty sure that should settle your inquiry regarding Chamorro Masses and rosaries.

      Delete
    12. That's just it, we need to alter the servers. They don't understand how to serve the proper Way. As for the Chamorro mass, read Eusebios' article again. There is nothing in there about saying the mass in Chamorro. So start following the Way, it will change your snotty attitude and bring you to our level.

      Delete
    13. @ 7:05 PM You are correct. These two men for many years,have faithfully opened the church at 4:45 AM to prepared things for Mass. Not once have I heard them moan or groan about doing the work they do. I am sure they do it for the Lord.

      On an other note, you have elderly women come in early to say the rosary and other prayers in Chamorro before Mass. No complains there either. These women come not from the Agana Parish, but from other parishes. They too, have devoted their time because of their love for the Lord.

      Now for the sour note...the week where the Gospel was all about the weed and the wheat, I now come to realize and understand what Father Michael meant when he said in his homily...We too must pull out the weeds in our lives, just as the Church needs to pull out its own weed.

      Apparently Father Michael knew what was to come down a week later after his homily.
      It appears now, at least for me, that he was insinuating that Msgr James was the weed and had to be pulled out. The following week, Msgr James was handed his letter!

      Father Michael may be quite and look very innocent, but as the saying goes, "the quietest people are the deadliest."







      Delete
    14. Anonymous August 28, 2014 at 9:23 PM
      "That's just it, we need to alter the servers. They don't understand how to serve the proper Way."

      - As stated earlier, these young men and women are actually serving Masses based on the liturgical guidelines that have been prescribed by books which have been in existence long before your organization was even a twinkle in your founder's eye.

      "As for the Chamorro mass, read Eusebios' article again. There is nothing in there about saying the mass in Chamorro."

      - How the heck did Dr. Eusebio's letter get into the conversation? Wow...can you read the timestamps addressed on my last post? I know it must have been a challenge to keep up with the conversation, given that your reading abilities must've gone on overdrive to comprehend, but I was commenting on another Anonymous posting that questioned the validity of Chamorro Masses and rosaries, but advertised the Pope's promulgation of the way. Well, that's because there isn't any need for a promulgation if there's already been a council of bishops that nipped that issue in the bud years before Pope Francis assumed his position.

      "So start following the Way, it will change your snotty attitude and bring you to our level."

      - Interesting. Must have been because I referenced material that has nothing to do with this Neo/Non-Neo nonsense.

      This is basic stuff that anyone who never attended even a CCD class could actually look up on their own thanks to the internet, and for anyone who was curious to just ask their local parish priest.

      And trust me, if "your level" is one that is both illiterate and uneducated in the rich history and traditions of our (yours and mine, whether Neo or not) Catholic Church, then I definitely reject your offer.

      Delete
    15. @anal 4:47PM 8/29.....the truth of the matter is, you need to condition yourself for changes. The statues that Eusebio follows does not include masses said in Chamorro or otherwise!

      Get used to the idea that for the next several months, you will all be in the pre-conditioned stages. After that, you will be conditioned to accept ALL the changes, to include CCD/ RCIA classes, Baptismal and Marital classes and last but not least how to be salted because you are all still dried and dead bones!

      Our Deacon Harold is a VERY STRONG ADVOCATE and HE WILL be the the IRON FIST of the NCW! His character and personality is not one to mess with! Why do you think that out of all the seminarians he is the "chosen one" of the Archbishop. In him the Archbishop sees his strength to lead and fight just as you are all fighting for your so called spiritual, liturgical and cultural rights!

      We are here to stay and NOT ONE of YOU will even be able to move our ROCK! Not even your backers of priests which are few in numbers! WE WILL CERTAINLY PREVAIL!

      Delete
  42. Fr. Efren AdversarioAugust 28, 2014 at 6:40 AM

    It was not my intention to get immersed in the ongoing turmoil of the Archdiocese, and certainly I had no desire to react to social media unless to clarify matters that personally hit below the belt as it did earlier. One thing we can all agree is to bring matters to a peaceful and respectful resolution. Someone alerted me of FD being mentioned recently due to the Archbishop's visit. As part of school staff and as chaplain, we have thwarted negative articulations of this turmoil from students. We have encouraged our students to welcome the Archbishop as one would welcome a guest into our home: with dignity and respect. Father Jeff and I, along with our hardworking faculty, agree that as entities entrusted by parents to mold their boys into future global and island leaders our primary goals are to prepare their children for college and to help mold them as upstanding citizens with good moral character. They are in school to learn, and they are (newsflash!) smart. Anyone who tries to understand the generation of millenials and below would know that this generation is extremely adept with social media and has an acute understanding of the world around them. They see and hear things with their heart, and want to get involved in rectifying those that are out of whack. These are our children, and proud as we are of them, we have to do our part in imparting solid foundation. Boy, are they getting important lessons on leadership 101 "what-not-to-do" as they observe the way we relate to the issues facing us! As they articulate their observations, casually and intelligently, we have encouraged them to focus on their studies because "we adults might be taking a long while to sort things out but this is our battle." We extremely underestimate the concerns voiced out by our young people. This is exactly the problem when we indiscriminately air out our dirty laundry in public: a macrocosm of what a child feels when mom and dad had a fight, "is it my fault?" I am thoroughly convinced that the longer we allow this situation to fester, the deeper the wounds we inflict on our young people. The venom and invective we so freely hurl at each other without really trying to delve into the deeper causes of division can ingrain itself in the psyche of young impressionable minds. We adults owe them the truth and we owe them an explanation why we keep dragging our feet when we know so well that "the emperor has no clothes." We owe each other rational and transparent explanations, as well as charity and understanding that we as Catholic Christians are all about. How we go about resolving turmoil is as important as the goal we all have in mind. Let us not lose hope, and let us face the future without fear. God bless you always.

    Father Efren Adversario

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Thank you Father Efren for your post. Yes, as you said, we owe each other rational and transparent explanations with charity and understanding. I take it that you have us and the Church leadership in mind. The Faithful did not start this whole mess. One of life's valuable lessons is: "There are consequences for one's actions (or inaction)." No one is exempt. We are held accountable for our actions in our lifetime. But you already know this. God bless.

      Delete
    2. So Father Efrennwhy do you post in a jate blog? Did you not get the message from your boss?

      Delete
    3. Fr. Efren, don't blame you for having no intention of immersing yourself in present, "affairs". Have you seen His Excellency Anthony's new nicely appointed office yet?

      Delete
    4. Thank you Father Efren for posting on this informative Blog. Readers value the contribution from an informed Catholic Priest who has served our men and women in Uniform.

      Delete
    5. Oh Tim I have to tell you I don't know Father Efren at all. I have never even seen him. But what I have done, is to tell a lot of people to read his blog on this site.

      Why? Because his blogs reflects a high consciousness of someone who has a personal relationship with GOD.

      Who ever that priest is, it is easy to recognize he is walking the High Road. ONE WITH GOD.

      Many years ago I heard a priest quote St. Teresa of Avila, saying
      “Christ has no body now on earth but yours,
      no hands but yours,
      no feet but yours,
      Yours are the eyes through which to look out
      Christ's compassion to the world
      Yours are the feet with which he is to go about doing good;
      Yours are the hands with which he is to bless men now.”

      The priest explained how having a personal relationship with GOD was like having a relationship so intimate that one did not feel separation having no place where GOD begins or stops.

      Father Eferon says " I feel in my heart" as he writes with a deep intimacy of being faithfully married to a Loving God. His words shine a brilliant light cutting through all the apparent dark murky stuff.

      He also reminds me this quote by St.Teresa
      “The important thing is not to think much, but to love much.”

      Tim I don't think you will ever get more strength based than Father Eferen. The impact of his positive, spiritual, yet truthful energy jumps right out of the computer.
      What an awesome spiritual leader.

      The two greatest commandments taught by Jesus I dare say are the cause and effect of Father Efren's uplifting consciousness.
      1. Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind, and with thy whole strength;
      2.Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
      I humbly Thank You Father Efren for your showing us your great love of GOD, wisdom and spiritual commitment.

      I am spiritually elevated to new heights with tears of joy. Those boys at FD are indeed blessed to have you mentor and guide them through their informative years. Guam is greatly blessed to have you here.

      You are demonstrating what it is to be a true spiritual leader and a great Catholic priest. Thank You. Thank You. Thank You.

      May The Good Lord Continue to Bestow You with Avalanches of Abundant Blessings and Peace that Surpasses All Understanding.

      "It is love alone that counts."St. Therese of Lisieux

      Delete
  43. It is quit telling of the upbringing and teaching of the person posting on Aug 27 at 11:06 pm. No respect and appreciation for the elderly who are there not to serve the priest or you but for God. These people need to be taken aside and taught respect for older people and our Chamorro culture.....this behavior is truly a reflection on your upbringing and the people your honor: Father Pius, Arch, Father Adrienne and all the other neos responsible for your formation. This is what we have to look forward to with the "new blood taking over". Sadly, this behavior is acceptable in the new administration. Poor reflection on you and your character.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Guess they don't like them, because they are not a part of the community. If this is so, then by all means take over. I know these men come to church at 4:45am to set up and make sure that things are ready for Mass! Who of you are willing to do this? I am sure that these two me would rather sleep in few more hours before heading out to morning mass.

      Their dedication speaks for themselves! Shame on you for even suggesting this!

      Delete
  44. Fr. Efren AdversarioAugust 28, 2014 at 8:31 PM

    Tim, please answer whoever asked why I posted in a "jate blog" and whether I received the memo from my boss:

    First of all, last time I checked the word "jate" is not part of Webster's English dictionary.

    Second, I have utmost respect for people who "say what they mean and mean what they say," such as not hiding behind anonymity and for those who back up their words with research and documentation. If the writer meant "hate" blog, I will be loathe to classify this venue as such. In fact I am anguished by the fact that very intelligent and genuinely concerned lay Roman Catholics in Guam have been relegated to this venue because of fear, intimidation, and leadership's refusal to dialogue in an honest manner. This should not be, the secrecy and silence are a blatant defiance of the Apostolic Delegate Archbishop Kreb's encouragement to "build bridges."

    Third, I believe in my heart that there is much willingness to resolve on the part of those who engage in the conversation but this frustrated effort is being met with documented layers of untruths. No person of goodwill ever wants the Archdiocese to be divided between polarizing lines of defense, namecalling and overall disrespect for the dignity of another. This culture is not about that: anyone who has gone through the horrors of the Second World War will tell you that they learned to share the meager resources of a small terrorized island because everyone believed there is enough for everyone. It seems to me that this venue has spiralled into a forum for negativity when it can be a potent source of objective information. Let us not set aside the astute perspective of our laypersons who are valuable partners in our faith growth. I hope we can take a step back, put a lid on our emotions and maturely identify issues that need to be resolved. Last week St. Thomas Aquinas School invited me to talk to their student leaders on Conflict Resolution. The youngters get it! Why is it so difficult for us adults to do this? With the Archbishop's litany of unsolicited advice to high school captive audience, perhaps our young people can do a better job than us. It is now their Church anyway, so let them chart the future course of this Archdiocese. Let this be a damning evidence of misdirected stewardship and how we squandered the opportunity "to leave this world better than we found it."

    Fourth, a vital military directive that I learned is to never obey an unlawful order from a senior officer. I have not been given any order which might infringe on my freedom of speech. I have fought ample time for our country to allow anyone to take that right away from me. If it comes to that point, I am free to chart my future destiny without trepidation - it is my journey and not anyone else's. Please do not preempt my course before I reach the bridge. You know what? There is life beyond our arcane concerns. My commitment is to fight for justice and truth. Look in the mirror and see whether the image reflected is willing to fight for those values as well.

    Father Efren Adversario
    In Arduis Fideli

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Father Efren, we enjoyed your 5:45am masses. Though it was short because you were yanked out and placed at Father Duenas, I found your masses to be very spiritually fulfilling. I also appreciated that you said the mass in Chamorro. Now we are stuck with Father Michael Jucutan. Nice priest but he has a long way to go before we can call him a true priest. I cringe when he steps to pulpit. He should video himself and see what I mean.

      Delete
    2. Jucutan is not nice....he is a bully ...watch out for him.....one of the flying monkeys for then wicked witches from the hill.

      Delete
  45. Although I haven't had the pleasure of meeting you Father Efren, just know that I have the highest of respect for you. We are right behind you in the fight for justice and truth.

    ReplyDelete
  46. I heard that as yesterday, both Cathedral Basilica office & gift shop employees deductions for taxes, 401k & health insurance payments has not been forwarded to the respective agencies. I was told that the employees were only issued their Net Pay, I was told letters were issued to them last Friday from the new Rector....wonder what is the contain of that letter? But then the GAG confidentiality is still in effect. Stay tuned .....

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Blow right through that confidentiality crap. They wouldn't t abide by it!

      Delete

  47. There will never be peace on Guam why Archbishop remains.

    ReplyDelete

Recommendations by JungleWatch