by Chuck White
Another recording has been secretly smuggled out of the castle…Listen to what Fr. Edwin “Pius” Sammut O.C.D, the lead catechist for “the Way” in Guam, and another speaker told members during their recent “Beginning of the Year” Convivence in Guam about the Way’s troubles in Japan. (continued)
Wow. It is remarkable how so many are easily manipulated by what Fr. Pius put forth. This kind of conditioning is the most sad. It is disgusting how he broadly paints a grossly negative brush of the bishops of Japan. Sad.
ReplyDeleteAnd as far as exclusion from the Eucharist, that is a total lie. Nobody was refused the proper Mass that all Catholics participate. A bold face lie. This demonstrates the separation inherent in this "movement."
My dear Jose, what this demonstrate is how evil Pius can be, he knowingly mislead his people, Using again and again, false analysis and out of context issues to paint the opposite situation that actually exist. The man is a manipulator and a liar.
DeleteThis is plain and simple.
No wonder his own people on Malta got rid of him.
Pure evil
One thing that struck me, Jose, was the emphasis on "persecution." These words were spoken while introducing Kiko's new song, "Messiah, Lion to Vanquish", which was supposedly inspired by the "persecution" happening in Japan. The words of the song were attributed to Saint Vittorino, a martyr who died during the persecutions of the Emperor Diocletian.
ReplyDelete"The Way" emphasizes persecution starting with the 4th night of the initial catechesis (click here to read more), and this is a classic characteristic of sectarian movements.
By the way, Fr. Santiago Flor-Caravia, formerly the pastor in Chalan Pago, is now serving in Japan, most assuredly with the permission of the bishop of that diocese in Japan.
Chuck, I believe Father Santiago was on loan for the Archdiocese of Agana. His true home base is in Japan. He does speak Japanese.
DeleteUmatuna. December 8, 2013. Headlines. "Four Diocesan priests go to the mission". "Father Santiago will go to Japan"
DeleteReally? If Santiago was on loan from Japan then how is it that he goes "to the mission" by returning to his home? More neocat b.s. More evidence of a parallel church.
Most probably he is incardinated in his home country which I believe is Ecuador and he is wandering.
My understanding was Father Santiago was asked to return to Japan by his Bishop in Japan. I do not know who requested for him to stay a little longer on island.
DeleteYes, Fr. Santiago told me once that he was on loan from Japan. And the 2013 directory for the Archdiocese said that he was no in cardinal ed here, but the Umatuna article that I cited says that he IS incardinated here. The Umatuna never lies, right?
DeleteIf Fr. Santiago is wandering around the world this is exactly what the Vatican wishes to stop. Clergy Incardinated into a diocese must be in the diocese or living outside with approval of the home bishop and the receiving bishop. Important to amend irregular clergy situations. A concern of the Vatican regarding Guam.
DeleteConcerned Catholics are you busy?
ReplyDeleteAsk them. www.concernedcatholicsofguam.org
DeleteLook what a mole just sent. Apparently Deacon Steve is not happy with his bishop. Anyone know the story on this?
ReplyDeleteDecember 19, 2014
Most Rev. Anthony Sablan Apuron, OFM Cap., D.D.
Metropolitan Archbishop of Agaña
Hagåtña, GU
Dear Archbishop:
In reviewing a posting on Jungle Watch dated Tuesday, December 16, 2014, it has come to my attention that a member of the clergy appears to have violated Canon 1373, which states: “A person who publicly incites among subjects animosities or hatred against the Apostolic See or an ordinary because of some act of power or ecclesiastical ministry or provokes subjects to disobey them is to be punished by an interdict or other just penalties.”
Fr Pius was talking at a beginning of the year retreat of the Neocatechumenal Way recently where he was recorded and quoted as saying: “Now what happened was very simple, okay. The Bishops of Japan, which are very very territorial, okay, they saw that in ??? Way, they judged it as being too European. Therefore, they decided to you know, to stop it. And in Japan it’s very important, you know, that they look united. They are not united, but that they look united. But there were some bishops that were against this. They liked the Way, they were in favor of the Way, and therefore, however, for the sake of appearing united, of looking as a united front, they decided to take this decision. For five years the [NCW] brothers cannot meet in the Church. No one can prohibit anyone from meeting, you know, I can meet in homes, and can go and study the scriptures in the homes, this is a right of every Christian. You know, that no one can take away this right. Therefore, okay, the brothers continue, but they are meeting in the homes. They cannot have a Eucharist because the Eucharist is a liturgy, therefore, you know, therefore they cannot because the Bishops don’t want. So for five years they were put on quarantine. You cannot meet, you cannot have a celebration in the Church. This as you can imagine created tremendous suffering, okay. But the brothers did what they were told. They obeyed, they did not make any protests, they did not go to the FBI, you know, they just, they just obeyed. They just did what they were told. And Kiko went to visit them, because of…what he is saying ?? Is this, they [Bishops of Japan] basically disobeyed the Pope, eh, it’s a very serious thing. Because the Pope told them explicitly, Pope Benedict, “Don’t do it. Don’t do it.” And they [Bishops of Japan] decided to do it. So it’s a very clear disobedience. But they have their conscience and they sit in front of God. But for you to know the facts.”
I believe you were also present during this discussion. As you can imagine, this type of language puts the ordinaries in Japan in a very bad light, creating animosities and hatred against the Japanese bishops and the Church. And I believe further the actual facts will prove most of the statements by Fr Pius to be lies and half-truths. It would appear that he purposely withheld information to foment hatred against ordinaries not supportive of the Neocatechumenal Way, and that you have done nothing to stop that animosity.
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ReplyDeleteI believe you were also present during this discussion. As you can imagine, this type of language puts the ordinaries in Japan in a very bad light, creating animosities and hatred against the Japanese bishops and the Church. And I believe further the actual facts will prove most of the statements by Fr Pius to be lies and half-truths. It would appear that he purposely withheld information to foment hatred against ordinaries not supportive of the Neocatechumenal Way, and that you have done nothing to stop that animosity.
These words were spoken by a priest, in Guam at your invitation, in his official capacity of the Church, and were spoken publicly at a Church function, at a meeting of the NCW. Now many people are questioning why you did nothing to stop Fr Pius’ actions to bring hatred to the Japanese ordinaries and the Church, and why you did not simply correct his statement at that time.
As a member of the clergy for the Archdiocese of Agana, this hate speech is highly offensive to me, and the Catholic faithful have also voiced their concern. I formally ask you to thoroughly investigate this matter and to take whatever action is necessary to correct these statements and prevent such an abuse of ecclesiastical ministry from happening again, especially in your presence. Canon 1347 §1 suggests guidelines on possible action to be taken.
Please feel free to contact me with any questions you may have.
Your servant in Christ,
Stephen Wm. Martinez, KHS
Cc: Msgr. David C. Quitugua, JCD, Vicar General
Fr. Adrian Cristobal, Chancellor
ReplyDeletePius has been spreading violence, hatred, distrust, and disunity since the day he arrived. A dangerous man.
The sad situation with our Archbishop is he is the chief shepherd and teaher of the Catholic Church in Guam, However he has allowed an outsider in Edwin Pius to catechize him on his catholic faith, Its no wonder he is very confused and lost and may be the reason that the NCW heretical doctrines are being rampantly propagated among all NCW communities on Guam. Archbishop, you thought that the NCW will uplift your legacy as a bishop in the catholic church, however your alegiance to the NCW severed ties with other members of the Catholic Church in Guam. You have lost the respect of the people and the Clergy who are non neo.
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