Thursday, July 30, 2015


This is the latest installment from Frenchie on "The incredible adventures of Carmen and Kiko." The full version with all the installments can be found here

Continued: the incredible adventures of Carmen and Kiko.

The idea that sold Archbishop Casimiro Morcillo to contact his good friend and vicar general of Rome Archbishop Angelo Dell'Acqua (the representative of the Pope as Archbishop of Rome) under Pope Paul VI, was that Carmen and Kiko could work the "miracle" they had achieved in Madrid.

Archbishop Morcillo took Carmen along in 1967 for the ceremony of elevation of Dell'Acqua to the Cardinalate, and they worked out the when and how, Carmen and Kiko would be able to start their Venture in Rome.

After the ousting of Mussolini in Italy by the King and Marshal Badaglio, the German had invaded Italy, which led to extremely hard fighting with the allies for the liberation of Italy.

There was still hard fighting in Northern Italy when the German signed their unconditional surrender in May of 1945.

After that Italy was administered by an American military government who put in place "christian democrats" allied to the USA. At the same time the communists were very active all over Italy, as they had taken a large responsibility in the resistance to Mussolini and the Germans from 1943 to 1945. As strong allies to Stalin in the USSR, they saw the church as a direct enemy.

Italy in the mid 1960s was still very much a place fraught with political and economical upheaval.
The North was mostly industrialized, and with a rich agriculture. The South (mezzagiorno) was extremely poor, rural and corrupted with strong mafia presence.

Rome, the eternal city, was in fact two cities. One of beauty and palazzos, the other of awful slums in the scarred ruins left by the war and the effect of poverty brought on by internal immigration from the south of Italy.

The Vicar General decided then, that the best place for Carmen and Kiko would be the shanty town of the Borghetto Latino, an old publican neighborhood of Rome which was made of illegal buildings strawn around without planning, and often without running water and/or electricity.

This was a place the good Cardinal felt needed a special effort. 

Many poor people living there were from Abruzzo, Puglia, Calabria, Sicily, Sardinia.
Carmen had her bridgehead and was authorized to bring her companion and their dog and pony show to Rome.

History was ready to be made once more . 


  1. The reconstruction of the story of Kiko and carmen by Frechie, as far I know, is not correct.

    Kiko has never been "francoist", but marxist, in the manner of so many young European artists and intellectuals of the '60s. Kiko also was charm of the thought of Sartre and Hegel and art by Jackson Pollock and Mark Rothko. The first community that was born in Rome, was full of young Catholics left. They thought that Kiko was one of liberation theology, deceived by its picturesque liturgy, Kiko had gained a very conservative Catholic moral, who astonished the clergy. Young people in the 60 fleeing the Catholic morality and instead he conquered them.

    Carmen Hernadez, is no heir to the "Grupo Ebro", she never took the vows. He has lived for several years in a kibbutz in Israel. she is the theological mind of the Neocatechumenal with Father Mario Pezzi, Msgr. Ricardo Blazquez and Msgr. Pedro Farnes. Two other important elements of the ncw were Stefano Gennarini (responsible for Poland) and right arm organizational of Kiko and Toni Spandri (who died some years ago, responsible for Germany), who were students of Josef Ratzinger in Regensburg and have had the privilege to be part of the "Ratzinger Schülerkreis" a circle of 50 former student of Pope Benedict. They were responsible for the annihilation of the "Arinze" decree.

    1. Funny how you call it the "Arinze decree" when in fact it was coming from the man you claim they had followed,
      Pope emeritus Benedict XVI.
      And it was never annihilated as you claim, just DISOBEYED.
      If what you say is true, produce the document refuting the "decree"... whats that you say, you'll have to look for it somewhere?
      ya right, heard that one before.

    2. I am not so sure that Mario is not on our side. His observations - though they may be in error - appear to be neutral. In any event, he does not sound like a Kiko...yet. As for the "Arinze" decree and its "annihilation", referring to as the "Arinze letter" or "decree" is a shorthand way of referring to a letter from the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Sacraments of which Cardinal Arinze was its then-prefect. Arinze signed the letter but opened with the words "the Holy Father wishes you to know."

      Kiko completely rejected it. This is documented in the right sidebar under the video clip with Kiko waving his hands around.

  2. Lol. Interesting it took a long week to get the altered and ever changing "official version".
    Guess Pius is getting edgy.....
    Have a nice weekend.
    Will address more of your statements

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