Excerpt from an article in Church Militant: "People worldwideToo many leaders feel beholden to absolutely no one or anything except their own career ambitions and ideologies. These are all public cases — very public cases. Their silence, stonewalling and deflecting have nothing to do with prudence or confessional matter or anything of the kind. These things are all well known and yet they continue to behave as though they have done nothing wrong and owe no one an explanation of anything. What bishops who act like this are doing is continuing to contribute to a general demoralizing of the Catholic faithful, a weakening of the faith of those with sensitive or weak faiths, and setting the stage for the next generation of bishops who follow behind them to not be able to recover from the damage they have inflicted on the Church.The actions of these men — these successors of the Apostles — are doing great harm to the Church, and they need to come clean on their actions or resign. They need to stand up and admit their many and grievous errors and mistakes, ask for forgiveness for their sins against the Faith — for that is what we are talking about at the end of the day — and be willing to resign their offices.They run the Church like it’s a business and they are the CEO. This has got to stop. "Calling Rome!
Is that another Foreigner holding up a sign. Shameful Chamorros tai ma mahlao
The irony of calling out someone as shameful, while hiding behind an Anonymous name. This is called a massive failure.
At 2:44 AM, that "foreigner" is married to a Chamorro lady and has been living here longer than the younger generations of Chamorros. Furthermore, he has demonstrated time and time again that he is concerned about our fellow Guamanians by having served as a lawmaker, and to this day remains a vocal advocate with the betterment of our community in mind. In a sense, it is a shame that not enough local people are as passionate as he is in standing up for what is right and just.
Let's quit it with foreigner, ok? Or refuse anything coming from DC, or Extension society, too. Disgusting. Oh, and let's turn away foreign tourist, also.
No that man holding up the sign is not a foreigner, he is a friend. He is a friend to his devoted wife, he is a friend to his community, a friend to his faith and my friend. He served his country as a Marine and made Guam his home. He served this island as a Senator and in the "Guam" National Guard. He has given much to this island that he calls home. So Anon 2:44, when you grow some balls and do half the things this "man" has done for this island and the nation, and when you come out of hiding, then you can comment. In the mean-time take that foreigner Zolatan and yourself off this island or at least stop stealing oxygen from the rest of us!!
To Anon at 2:44 AM You have such great DISDAIN of foreigners, as well as scorn at the Chamorros. Is this you again irrelevant Rudy boy? The timing of your post is like clockwork! Ha-ha! BTW, since the Neo communities on Guam are riddled with foreigners and Chamorros, you must feel total contempt for the whole sect then. Joy-Joy!! Gosh, you are a pitiful person!
What is shameful is your comment, @2:44am! (blame it on insomnia??) Dalai, you don't even recognize a prominent member of our community--for quite a number of years! And you say "tai ma mahlao" to those in attendance?! The Saina of our community who can school you in all things Chamorro AND Katoliku? *smh* Where do you come from?
Apuron needs foreigners to help him. Problem is they see his corruption so they also stand back from him. The extension society we have not forgotten.
To anon at 2:44 AM:In case you haven't noticed, Guam is an international community. Many Chamorros from generations past have married "foreigners" and these "foreign" names are now Chamorro family names. Put your name to your opinions, chicken. Hagu tai mamahlo.Eileen Benavente-Blas
Haven't had a chance to post this, but during AAA's visit to Bishop Baumgartner last week, my son told me that someone asked AAA a question and his off topic answer was basically "...if you don't love the Pope, you don't love God...it's the same with the bishop...." I had to ask my son several times to repeat what he just said, as I couldn't believe it.. So according to AAA, I don't love God!!!!
NEO/NCW Cult Presbyter Apuron is now using his position to extort compassion from the Catholics that don't understand that he has wronged them by his actions. His attempt to turn the table continues to backfire on him....Totally pathetic of this evil and selfish man to use his office to hide, while his continuous web of lies have divided the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church....To sum it all up.... Time to retire Apuron....your pathetic desperation is beginning to be the talk in the Villages....not no mention his peers abroad....
Apuwrongee trying to use the chair of St. Peter to justify his ungodly actions...Remember Apurongee; Judas was one of the disciples that lost his grace by betraying Jesus for 40 silver pieces.... Apurongee did the same; the only difference is that he did it for $40M + the total betrayal of all the Holy Men of the cloth through his selfish and slanderous web of lies.
Actually in a sense he is correct. the teaching comes from the 1st letter of John 4:20 and applies to all Christians not just the pope and bishops. " if any one says I love God and hates his brother, he is a liar. for he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen." This however, does not mean that we cannot disagree with his actions and call him out on them. Especially when they are causing scandal in the church. Furthermore, it does not mean that we will sit idly by and let him squander the churches resources, human or otherwise, because they are not his to do with as he pleases. He is charged with taking care of the the church, no easy task for anyone, but if you can no longer do it faithfully, Archbishop, it is time to retire.
The problem is that some mistake disagreement with hate. This is also a conditioning word, the constant use of the word hate. The Archbishop purposely misleads the students when he stated what he did without clarifying the difference. It's also consistent with the NCW conditioning.
ANON 2:44, you say "foreigner" holding up a sign, then say, "shameful Chamorros Tai MaMahlao." YOU, should be the Tai Mamahlao. Since when are Chamorros foreigners? These folks are exercising their right to protest against an oppressive regime, who advocates staying quiet and letting things be the same-old-same-old; who steal from the people who trusted them. We've seen the abuses this archbishop and his minions have done and are continuing to do. You on the other hand, want to play the "safe" position and call out from behind a vale of anonymity. Who really is the Tai Mamahlao? Crawl back under your oppressive rock or better yet, go away. Catholics of Guam....WAKE UP!! You cannot remain blind and silent to what goes on with our church here on Guam. Be vigilant, be brave and Be Not Afraid, for when two or more are gathered in His name, there He is in our midst.
That person holding up the sign is probably more Chamorro than you. Tun Pedro Santos
ANON 2:44. I was there and I can tell you that we were respectful of the people attending mass and we were prayerful throughout the morning. Some of us were there for different grievances, yet we were all united in showing the archbishop and the people who may not know that we are a divided people under his leadership and that we want change in the way things are run in the archdiocese. Shame? You're right, I am not ashamed of myself and my actions and yes, I am a proud Chamorro. Please come and learn what we have seen, read, heard, and experienced as parishioners and Catholics here on our island. And I am proud to stand with those so-called "foreigners" that you called out as we are all affected by what is happening in the Catholic community and as Christians we are taught to love our brothers and sisters as we love the Lord.God bless you and may you see the light.
That foreigner that you referred to is a new convert to the Catholic (True one) not kiko's version and you can see that he is committed in preserving the one true faith. God Bless Robert