Monday, March 27, 2017

IT'S ABOUT GRATITUDE. AND FOR US, GRATITUDE MEANS ONLY ONE THING!

Posted by Tim

Apparently my previous post was a little too cryptic for the average reader. So let me outline this for EVERYONE. 

First, let's get this straight. 

Not a single priest or bishop will be made to pay personally for these abuses, at least not financially. Most of these guys are dead and gone, or like Brouillard, too old or doesn't have a cent to his name. Apuron might have a few bucks, but it's pennies compared to what will be paid.

No, the only people who will be made to pay for these abuses are the same people who built the church in the first place. They gave property, money, time, talent, treasure, sweat, prayers, and whole portions of their lives to build and serve the Church on Guam, not because of any bishop or priest, but because they believed in the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church and care about the eternal destination of their souls and the souls of those they love. 


Second, let's get this straight. 

In just about every other diocese where the civil statute of limitations was lifted, it was the work of church-hating legislators and ambulance-chasing lawyers. This is not the case in the Archdiocese of Agana. In this diocese, it was not legislators or lawyers, it was US, the people who are still out there week after week in the sun and rain holding those signs. 

We, the people who will pay the bill for your compensation, are the same people who created the legislation which permitted you to present us with the bill for that compensation. And don't forget it. WE DID THIS. And we did this for one reason and one reason only: TO CLEAN OUR CHURCH. 

Third, let's get this straight. 

Cleaning our Church means this: GETTING RID OF APURON. We knew that once we got rid of Apuron, that the RMS and the NCW would collapse, and the Stinking Monk, Adrian the Aimless, and David the Vulnus, all their filthy, mooching ilk would be history because it was only their control of Apuron that allowed these horrors to exist in the first place. 

We knew that the only way to get rid of Apuron was to expose his history of sexual abuse as well as his three decades of covering up for others. We knew this because Apuron himself said it (he thought, confidentially).  But we also knew it because given the horrible revelations of the last two decades, the Vatican would act fast once Roman investigators could get face to face with Apuron's accusers - as I had. 

Fourth, let's get this straight. 

The Cardinal Burke canonical court was constituted and sent to interview Apuron's victims because EACH VICTIM demanded it. As each of Apuron's victims came forward publicly, each one of them, after reading their statements, marched to a church office and deposited their statements. Each of those statements demanded justice from the Church and justice for Apuron. When Cardinal Burke proceeded to attempt to interview Apuron's victims, he was only doing what they themselves demanded. 

Burke may or may not have known that each of the victims had subsequently retained a civil lawyer to represent them in their civil cases, but it would not have mattered. Burke was doing what each of Apuron's victims had demanded he do. 

Fifth, let's get this straight. 

The canonical court and the civil court are two different animals. Apuron's civil attorney, Jackie Terlaje was NOT present at the canonical proceedings. Only Apuron's canon lawyers were present, as permitted by canon law. On behalf of Apuron's victims, the office of the Promoter of Justice (think Attorney General) was present. 

True, the representative from this office, in my opinion, did a poor job of informing the victims of the details about the proceedings, but that is beside the point, and let me repeat the point: EACH VICTIM, in writing, had demanded that the Church address the injustice done them. And that is EXACTLY what the canonical court attempted to do. 

By NOT testifying (and I do not know who did or who did not testify), the victims not only renege on their previous demand and cost Burke's crew tens of thousands of dollars and several days spent on a wild goose chase, but also may have endangered the prospects for their civil case. In fact, if they were not represented by a lawyer with the reputation of David Lujan, I'd say for certain that they endangered the prospects for their civil case.

And, in Lujan's defense, he did exactly what his job was. His only concern is the civil case and he had a right and duty to his clients to do anything he deemed necessary to protect his clients. However, each of those victims also had a right and duty to inform Lujan that they had, in writing, demanded canonical action against Apuron. They also had and still have a right and duty to the rest of us who have labored intensely and long in order that these same victims could see the justice they were demanding from the Church. 

And Last, let's get this straight.

If all you want is money and you don't care about our real aim: GET RID OF APURON, then the same people who worked so hard to get you your law can quickly become the same people who will demand and work for a new law that will kill the one you think you have. 

Conclusion

The people who have come forward about their sexual abuse at the hands of clergy deserve to be cared for and compensated to the best of our ability. That's why we worked so hard to pass that law and that is why we continue to march Sunday after Sunday. 

But each and every victim must understand that it is to THESE people, the people who march, the people who lobbied, the people who worked, the people who will ultimately pay the bill, that a debt of gratitude is owed. And that debt of gratitude is summed up in only this: HELP US GET RID OF APURON.

One last clarification.

Only the canonical court can get RID of Apuron. The civil court may be able to find him liable, but that's it. True, he will publicly discredited, but so long as he retains the title "Archbishop," we have failed. 

25 comments:

  1. This little 'ol lady is right behind you Tim.

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    1. there are MORE little 'ol ladies behind you Tim.

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    2. Yes, plenty more old ladies, old men and Catholics of every age. We are grateful for you, JW, Thoughtful Catholic, the CCOG, the LFM and those on the picket line! Without your efforts, I would've remained on the sidelines keeping quiet. Now, despite my anonymity here (sorry, it's necessary to continue my share of this important work), I'm not afraid to speak to my close friends and family about where I stand. Thankfully, it has helped them understand the conditions of the local church. Helping spread the truth one person at a time. Biba, Katoliku!

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  2. Tim, this will come as a shock, but the vast majority of people who read this blog are not stupid.

    We can also see your angry knee-jerk reaction when it's pointed out that some of your idols clearly have feet of clay.

    All of us want to see Apuron defrocked and the NCW flushed out of Guam. Get off of your high horse!

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    1. Well then you just displayed that you are not one of the readers who isn't stupid.

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    2. 12:34 PM. Time to stop hiding behind your horse.

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    3. Anon 12;34 PM cannot stop hiding /riding his high horse.his playmates are gone,left him high and dry and his horsey is his only way / means to flush himself off..lol..

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    4. 12:34 PM wanted an Arabian but got a putrid mule instead!

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    5. Anon 6:29 Am..aaaw I guess that makes 2 of us..so you're disappointed too...LMAO..

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  3. Strange. Tim posts his name and is accused of hiding!! Keep up the work Tim. Don't let hate stop what you're doing for the good of us all, the church and God

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    1. 5:37 PM, read carefully. Jose M was addressing 12:34 PM, and not Tim.

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    2. Jose said "Time" not Tim and Tim can stay on his horse for as long as he wants! He was the only one who was not afraid to lay his name and reputation on the line. He fought for Apuron on the Gay issue and was ridiculed with no help from anyone else. Then Apuron turns around and stabs him in the back! He fought for Gofigan and got sand kicked in his face. He did not remain anonymous when he said that there were victims and was threatened with a law suit! Tim has only fought for the authentic Catholic Church on Guam and took on a worldwide cult, by himself, for a long while. We owe him our gratitude or we would now all be Neos ourselves because of what Apuron and his lackeys were up to. I was blind but now I see, because of Tim's help! "Silent No More!" was for these victims and the hundreds of female victims who are yet to come forward. But it was Tim who inspired me to take action. We have all sat on our asses now it's time to get on our horses! The goal was to clean up our corrupted church and make it be the House of God again as it was always meant to be. Jesus chased out the money changers from the Temple, we too must chase out all who defame our church! I don't know what the price for justice is, but for all concerned it is all of us faithful Catholics that will be paying out for the law suits. I ask that we not be stabbed in the back too. I remain "Silent No More!"

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    3. Amen, Joe!

      When future generations look back at this time in history they will see a man who spoke truth to the civil and religious authorities and fought for what was right. Thank you, Tim, for waking us up and motivating us to do something. Thank you to the founding members of CCOG and LFM who continue to work for justice. Thank you, Joe, for taking the lead in Silent No More! and advocating for victims. Thank you for all who march each week to clean up our church. Thank you for all who pray for these efforts. May we see the fruits of our labor. May God bless us and give us strength.

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  4. Tim is spot on. That is precisely why I joined the effort and supported Apuron's victims. I pray that they testify.

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  5. There is a rumor going around that among the four, Walter, Roy, Roland and Doris, two testified. God bless those two.

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    1. I can't imagine their courage testifying in front of intimidating Vatican officials. I admire them.
      Agnes

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    2. Whoever the 2 victims are that testified,,I want to thank you for your courage...You did what you had / needed to do ..We will continue supporting you both..

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  6. ...I TESTIFIED..

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    1. Rose de los Reyes (Seattle, WA)March 29, 2017 at 4:01 AM

      Thank you for doing so. Assuming you are a victim/survivor that has a civil case, thank you very much for your testimony to the ecclesiastic court. Though difficult, your effort and courage in the dual forums of your civil case and the investigation in the ecclesiastic court is the honorable way to navigate both forums and, in the words of St. Paul, to “fight the good fight.” (2 Timothy 4:7) Civil court and ecclesiastic court function differently and have different rules and procedures. Wanting to see your goal to the end --- expose Abp. Apuron and stop sexual abuse in the church --- requires the fight in both courts with their different systems. I and many of us in JungleWatch support your fight in both courts and thank you deeply for testifying before the ecclesiastic court. Without knowing you, something tells me that, years from now, regardless of the outcomes of your case, you will be able to say the words of St. Paul: “I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith.” God bless you.

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  7. We must CLEAN OUT OUR CHURCH of all this heresy, complacency of the clergy (because of the weak leadership of Apuron and his three musketeers: Adrian the Portly; Pius the Aromatic; Adrian the Portly; and David the Vulcanus.
    Our duty and obligation as Catholic Christians is to make known problems to our Archbishop for the good (and in defense) of our Church as prescribed in the Code of Canon Law--Our Church Law:

    "Code of Canon Law, TITLE I. THE OBLIGATIONS AND RIGHTS OF ALL THE CHRISTIAN FAITHFUL

    Section 3. According to the knowledge, competence, and prestige which they possess, they have the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful, without prejudice to the integrity of faith and morals, with reverence toward their pastors, and attentive to common advantage and the dignity of persons."

    Now that Archbishop Byrnes is our new leader, we must report to him anything that would harm the Church.

    So, let's do our duty.

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    1. Start with Vulnus David - he is the harmful one. The irony is not lost on us, and never will be forgotten. How the arrogant bastard has fallen! Imagine firing the entire Archdiocesan Finance Council and calling them "vulnus to Archbishop Apuron" just so he can cover up for him the demonic intent of the NCW! Vulnus David (VD) is tasked by the Church and supposedly "educated" for 9 years (!) in Rome at our dime to protect our patrimony! Yet he goes on to manipulate an official public document (is that not a crime?) to further bilk us of $$$ for his NCW handlers! Enough already, arrest this felon!

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  8. Whoever they are, they knew what they were up against but followed their hearts and did the right thing..I have the utmost respect ,admiration and gratitude for both Victims who testified...

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  9. I do not hide, definitely not stupid, and picket every Sunday. My personal battle rhythm is the unconditional defrocking of Apuron first and then the systematic cleaning up of our Catholic Church on Guam. Onward, Tim; Onward Christian Soldiers.

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    1. Mary Lou Garcia-PeredaMarch 28, 2017 at 9:07 AM

      Gerald Taitano at 4:56 AM, although my physical challenges have made it difficult in 2017 for me to walk behind you as often as I did in the first 28 weeks of picketing in 2016, I march to the same battle rhythm. Thank you and God bless you for leading off the Battle March, when signaled by Commander Lou K, for the past 40 weeks.

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  10. Tim, sadly it's possible that Apuron will retain the Title of Archbishop just like filthy pedophile Wesolowski whose laicization was secretly reversed. He was buried from a chapel at St. Peter's Basilica with full episcopal honors last year. His funeral Mass was said by Francis' own Almoner.

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