Friday, September 1, 2017

FILONI IS NOT THE HOLY SEE, YOU SEE :)

The KAKA filled NEO Cult Zombies are again showing their true colors at the Dungbats latest blog. They are using that ill fated social media to tell everyone that the Red Pope controls the NEO Cult Presbyter Factory in Yona and ArchNEO Cult Presbyter Anthony Sablan aspirin is still in control of the Catholics on Guam. LMAO 😂 😂



AnonymousAugust 31, 2017 at 7:57 PM

Excuse me. RMS cannot be sold off without the approval of the Congregation for Evangelization/curia.
Archbishop of Agana requires consent of curia to sell/close down.
Wishes of Cardinal Filoni/curia important. Archbishop Anthony is Archbishop of Agana.

Canon Law does not require the approval of Filoni, the Curia, or his pathetic congregation. Canon Law requires permission "of the Holy See":
Can. 1292 §2. The permission of the Holy See is also required for the valid alienation of goods whose value exceeds the maximum amount, goods given to the Church by vow, or goods precious for artistic or historical reasons.
So what is the Holy See? Is it Filoni? Nope. The Holy See is ultimately the pope. The Catholic Church is a monarchy, not a democracy. But beyond that, there is this:
Can. 1293 §1. The alienation of goods whose value exceeds the defined minimum amount also requires the following: 
1/ a just cause, such as urgent necessity, evident advantage, piety, charity, or some other grave pastoral reason;
The "just cause" is the salvation of the "essential properties," i.e. churches and schools. If the Yona property is NOT part of the settlement, attorneys for the plaintiffs will NOT be willing to settle and will pursue their cases through the court where ALL diocesan properties will be at risk.

The pope is not likely to place all of our churches and schools at risk to save a neo-infested property which will probably need millions of dollars of decontamination work (if not several exorcisms), before the property is of any use to anyone.

24 comments:

  1. Francis is totally unpredictable, so don't hold your breath on the disposition of RMS. Just remember that NCW stooge O'Malley is one of his closest friends.

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    1. It really isn't even in Francis' hands. It will be in the hands of the civil courts.

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    2. That's correct Tim. The permission of the Holy See is ultimately meaningless in a civil litigation where civil law, not Church law, governs and controls.

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    3. Not true. The Vatican had to formally approve sales of all the real estate this diocese lost during the abuse catastrople. Rome's decisions were what finalized the sales.

      Copies were published in the diocesan newspaper every time the Faithful justifiably objected. No civil Courts were involved.

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    4. Civil courts involved here. It's settle or
      Let the courts take over.

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  2. Can. 1293 "some other grave pastoral reason" - this would be that the funds for purchase of the property was obtained by deception, then when the lies were uncovered, the source of the donation was coerced to lie to cover up the deception. Not to mention that the property was quietly given away to the NCW cult.

    These are the fruits of the NCW for the world to see ......

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  3. No Junglewatch.

    Apostolic Costitution Pastor Bonus:


    Art. 85 — It pertains to the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples to direct and coordinate throughout the world the actual work of spreading the Gospel as well as missionary cooperation, without prejudice to the competence of the Congregation for the Oriental Churches.

    Art. 86 — The Congregation promotes research in mission theology, spirituality and pastoral work; it likewise proposes principles, norms, and procedures, fitting the needs of time and place, by which evangelization is carried out.

    Art. 87 — The Congregation strives to bring the people of God, well aware of their duty and filled with missionary spirit, to cooperate effectively in the missionary task by their prayers and the witness of their lives, by their active work and contributions.

    Art. 88 — § 1. It takes steps to awaken missionary vocations, whether clerical, religious, or lay, and advises on a suitable distribution of missionaries.

    § 2. In the territories subject to it, it also cares for the education of the secular clergy and of catechists, without prejudice to the competence of the Congregation of Seminaries and Educational Institutions concerning the general programme of studies, as well as what pertains to the universities and other institutes of higher education.

    Art. 89 — Within its competence are mission territories, the evangelization of which is committed to suitable institutes and societies and to particular Churches. For these territories it deals with everything pertaining to the establishment and change of ecclesiastical circumscriptions and to the provision of these Churches, and it carries out the other functions that the Congregation of Bishops fulfills within the scope of its competence.

    Art. 90 — § 1. With regard to members of institutes of consecrated life, whether these are erected in the mission territories or are just working there, the Congregation enjoys competence in matters touching those members as missionaries, individually and collectively, without prejudice to art. 21, § 1.

    § 2. Those societies of apostolic life that were founded for the missions are subject to this Congregation.

    Art. 91 — To foster missionary cooperation, even through the effective collection and equal distribution of subsidies, the Congregation chiefly uses the Pontifical Missionary Works, namely, the Society for the Propagation of the Faith, the Society of St. Peter the Apostle, and the Holy Childhood Association, as well as the Pontifical Missionary Union of the Clergy.

    Art. 92 — Through a special office, the Congregation administers its own funds and other resources destined for the missions, with full accountability to the Prefecture for the Economic Affairs of the Holy See.

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    1. It’s quite entertaining to see the Kiko’s suddenly scrambling to demand obedience to a roman congregation when they, especially Tony, radically thumbed their noses at such a congregation which had magisterial competence over governance of the liturgy. Nevertheless, canon law will show, that the Filoni Baloney’s congregation has NO competence relative to the alienation of any of the diocesan properties that are now subject to sale in order to compensate Apuron’s victims - and they were ALL Apuron’s victims, since not only did he abuse some himself, he did NOTHING to find and help the hundreds of victims we are now learning of even though he knew of the records of the priests now being accused.

      And beyond any Vatican dispute about the alienation of these properties, civil law is NOT subject to canon law, and the sale of said properties will be either court ordered or occur under a civil law settlement. There is NOTHING Rome can do.

      However, if Filoni Baloney and his pathetic band of Kiko’s press the issue, it will open the door for the super lawyers to sue Filoni personally, his Congregation, and the entire Vatican, as any administrative obedience to Filoni will compromise the shield of “no employer-employee relationship” which now protects them. If Filoni has administrative authority in this diocese, then he is PERSONALLY LIABLE for not removing the monster, Apuron.

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    2. Anon @ 3:06 pm. This Apostolic Constitution doesn't apply to the NCW. The Apostolic Constitution is directed at the Church and its faithful, of which the heretical NCW cult is not part of.

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    3. Filoni and his Vatican cabal can claim Diplomatic Immunity. They're untouchable by civil authorities.

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  4. On mission lands the congregation for evangelization has gathered in his hands the power of the congregation for the clergy and for the Bishop

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    1. LOL. Do you really think the Superior and Federal District court cares?

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    2. Courts couldn't care less about Church property used solely for religious purposes because it's tax-exempt. Constitutional Separation of Church and State, etc.

      However, if RMS takes reservations as Billygoat suggests and it functions as a for-profit resort hotel, that could be a huge game changer. If the NCW doesn't ante up, the property could be seized for back taxes.

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    3. Tim, they'll care if tax evasion becomes an issue. If reservations are being taken at RMS, it's possible that the place is being run sub rosa as a for-profit venture, not as a tax-exempt religious foundation.

      Hopefully, Byrnes is aware of what's actually going on out there. If he isn't, the Archdiocese could take some deadly fire from tax authorities at all levels from local to Federal.

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  5. Stupid neos and their beliefs. They think they can rewrite canon law or at least twist it to suite their agenda.

    The archdiocese needs to start charging all those idiots at the RMS Hotel. I'm sure before any of those tenants leave they will trash the hotel because there is no one to hold them responsible.

    They should've been paying rent from the very beginning in my opinion.

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    1. The comment below from a KAKA filled NEO Cult Zombie (possibly a NEO Cult Presbyter wanna-be) on the Dungbats latest blog is a good reason why we must rid the world of this NEO Cult cancer. It's always about them. They squander the parish resources so they can pay tribute to Profit Kiko. They know what's at stake. Guam is the perfect location to get rejects incardinated into the US Catholic Churches, therefore they highly value the NEO Cult half-baked Presbyter Factory over the local parishes.

      AnonymousSeptember 1, 2017 at 2:17 PM
      There are parishes that can close. Other parishes combined.
      Waste of resources manpower in 2017 to maintain a parish in each village. Close down parishes they no longer work.Reality now. New communties of Fellowship liturgy open to us. Old concept of parish is dead.

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    2. Yep. Straight out of Fr. Walsh's mouth.

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  6. It is quite singular that this whole battle for the seminar is managed by a REAL ESTATE AGENT!!

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    1. Yes, it is, ol' chap. Quite "singular," I say. Tallyho. Courage :)

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    2. Tally HO! Yup.

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    3. If Guam's Church real estate sales are anything like those throughout the US, there are absolutely no realtors, brokers, agents or commission payments involved. Only salaried, chancery-based real estate professionals who handle all commercial property transactions from start to finish. If necessary, independent legal counsel is available.

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  7. Irony is not the Neos'forte. They constantly contradict themselves. If you remember a couple of years ago, when this blog uncovered the financial irregularities of the Apuron's administration and the fact that two nuncios in a row had failed to received the mandatory financial reports of Archdiocese. The same Morons argued with the same rabid devotion to covering up their rear ends, that Archbishop Apuron could do as he pleased. Of course now that the proverbial shoe is on the other foot, they argue the exact opposite.
    Funny! No?

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  8. The KAKA Filled NEO CULT Dungbat is adding its twist as it created a new blog in a desperate hope of generating a firestorm of discussion:

    The Holy See

    There are two definitions of "Holy See."  Tim Rohr is only looking at one definition.  According to Tim Rohr:
    So what is the Holy See? Is it Filoni? Nope. The Holy See is ultimately the pope. The Catholic Church is a monarchy, not a democracy. But beyond that, there is this: Yes, the Holy See is the Pope, but it is also the Secretariat of State, the Council for the Public Affairs of the Church, and other institutes of the Roman Curia. According to the Code of Canon Law 361:

    Can. 361 In this Code, the term Apostolic See or Holy See refers not only to the Roman Pontiff but also to the Secretariat of State, the Council for the Public Affairs of the Church, and other institutes of the Roman Curia, unless it is otherwise apparent from the nature of the matter or the context of the words.

    The Code of Canon Law specifically stated that the Holy See not only refers to the Roman Pontiff (the Pope), but also to the Secretariat of State, the Council for the Public Affairs of the Church, and other institutes of the Roman Curia.  So, should we listen to the jungle or the Code of Canon Law? Therefore, Anonymous 7:57 pm was correct when he/she stated the following:

    AnonymousAugust 31, 2017 at 7:57 PM

    Excuse me. RMS cannot be sold off without the approval of the Congregation for Evangelization/curia.
    Archbishop of Agana requires consent of curia to sell/close down.
    Wishes of Cardinal Filoni/curia important. Archbishop Anthony is Archbishop of Agana. 

    Posted by Diana at 5:31 PM

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    1. LOL. Tell that to a federal court judge. SMH :)

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