Monday, June 16, 2014

IF NOTHING ELSE...

If nothing else, this blog has provided a worldwide stage for the whole world to see the real fruits of the Kiko-way.

34 comments:

  1. "has provided" as opposed to "is providing" ? I hope that you are not going to stop blogging, Tim.

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    1. Correct. "Is providing and will continue to provide". Just getting started.

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  2. How can you generalize the NCW this way?

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    1. Which way. I said nothing positive or negative in my post. Other than the tag I didn't even use the words Neocatechumenal Way in the post. As you know, I separate the Kiko's from the Neo's.

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  3. David G, you seem like a reasonable chap. Do you think that the NCW has problems? If so, what are they? Or do you believe, like many "hard-core" members, that the NCW is without any fault with respect to its method, content and worship?

    Can you be specific in regards to your objections to the characterisation of the NCW by Junglewatch?

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  4. Sitting here watching FOX NEWS, I wonder why that KIKO/NCW does not open a RMS in countries where terrorists attack. This is where priests, seminarians, lay missionaries are the most needed. The situation in Baghdad is getting worse with the attack from the jihads. The ISIS, although not a large group are said to be stronger than the jihadis and even worse.

    Guess I am a lost soul for not understanding the whole concept of the word evangelization! What is the major function of the NCW. Is it to evangelize to those already Baptized into the faith or to teach and preach the Gospel to those who believe in other gods?

    Who is evangelizing to these terrorist? I thought The Lord said, go and become disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

    Something is wrong here.

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    1. You are right. Something is very, very wrong. In fact, the real question is WHAT IS GUAM DOING TAKING PRIESTS AWAY FROM THEIR NATIVE COUNTRIES?

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    2. yup, go SPURS. DONE

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    3. Tim, did you not hear me a while ago? WE ARE HAND PICK BY GOD. sheeesh, I am getting tired when YOUR not listen to me.

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    4. True! What I don't understand is, for example, local priests who were educated at the seminary in Menlo Park came home to be ordained. The AAA paid for their education. Why aren't these seminarians on the same plan? Educated elsewhere and paid by their diocese AAA and then in their own homeland?

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    5. Taking priests or religious from far away places does not solve the problem. And, it creates problems for the initiates. Social anxieties because of language is a big one. It can be traumatic. The Administration of RMS Yona does not have the education or experience to handle these situations as they present themselves. How can you be a companion of the other seminarians and the Vice Rector the next week. He can't. Tempers do fly. So I have heard. But, no worries. PIUS is here and will be directing the hand pick seminarians. God help them. Certainly, some of them are good young men. God Help us, too.

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    6. This is terribly serious on many levels. No time to address now.

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    7. Actually, it is 'go "make disciples of all nations'. But he didn't say to evangelize, he said you will be my witnesses. Therefore we are called to witness! In order to do this ya gotta have a relationship with Him! We will accomplish more if we bear witness to His effect in our life.

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    8. VERY IMPORTANT, TIM. Realize you are busy; but don't forget problem of seminarians coming in droves from far away lands. OK? Thank you

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    9. Yes, it is very important. While I work on it, if you would like to offer your submission for a post, I will post it.

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  5. SEEEE? (some intellectual property stolen from Diana's famous blog) Tim Rohr is a graphomaniac. He just writes and writes and writes... but never answers any question! Here's a suggestion, Tim, just make up really easy questions and answer them yourself! That's what Diana does. But, then, she has a job. But at least she answers. On the other hand, I think I would prefer to see some answers from our Archbishop, or the Chancellor, or the Vice Chancellor, or how bout the VICAR we never hear a word from him. Do we? No we don't. Is he off island? Probably.

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    1. The only thing they've ever asked me is where I got the letter. LOL. They claim I stole it, but I also have the email header of the letter. In other words, I have the whole email from the Cardinal's office. The email was simply forwarded to me from the Cardinal's office upon my request. End of story. Too funny. Very entertaining to watch kiko's caught in a lie.

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  6. These RMS familia get ordained here so they are automatically incardinated for this Diocese, am I right? Now, going back, the Archbishop writes letters to these Filipino priests stating that if they don't follow the NCW they can find a diocese whose Archbishop/Bishop would accept them and incardinate them, am I right

    So what now Archbisop Apuron, heard you are now incadinating some Filipino priests. Aside from echoing "I'm your Puppet" to Pius, are you incardinating these Filipino priests by singing "Stand by Me"?

    To the Filipino Priests: Stand by Me + Incardination= SIPSIP!
    Stand by Me. + Incardination + SIPSIP = Fear Factor

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    1. Thanks for pointing this out. Priests from the Philippines. Your congregations stood by you when you were threatened. Will you now stand by them or will the Archbishop buy your silence?

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    2. Yes. All quite funny. In any event, the letter came from Cardinal Tagle, so it is his letter. If anyone is going to sue me then it would be him. Dear Cardinal Tagle, please take note that the Kiko's of Guam want you to sue me.

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  7. Cardinal tagle will not sue Tim. Cardinal tagle does have concerns over Guam

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    1. You can bet the ranch on that 10:37 am !

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  8. Don't think any Filipino priest will sip sip to the archbishop . Filipinos do not need to incardinate in Guam. They have paradise in the Philippines why would they want to stay with archbishop here on Guam. What is your understanding of incardination. Archbisjop now wishes to buy support by offering incardination. Does this not show the mentality of archbishop Apuron. He uses canonical terms to play his own games. Priests rise above his games. You don't need to play his games. Stand for truth and justice.

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    1. Going around trying to cover his tracks where he can in many areas. Not without fear, that's for sure. Poor guy. He will not be able to undo most of it. Wow. Just looked out the window and see a big, beautiful rainbow. Hope it's a good sign for peace in our Church.

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  9. Never thought of incardination as a means to buy priests silence. However, AAA has been known to buy people off in exchange for silence. So this is possible Tim he could offer incardination to gain support. However, if this is the case the whole archdiocese will know what priest sold his character and values.

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  10. Janet B - MangilaoJune 17, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    Wow! I gotta go, but this post definitely needs more review by people to see the inanity of the kiko's.
    I'll comment later.

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  11. Archbishop offered incardination to a priest in exchange for support.

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  12. Yah. This is really amazing...but not surprising.

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  13. Sa aking mga kaibigang Pilipinong pari, Ano po ang mas mahalaga sa inyo? Ang KATOTOHANAN o ang inyong INCARDINATION? MORAL and VALUES or INCARDINATION? Huwag ninyong ibenta ang sarili ninyo at SABIHIN LAMANG ANG KATOTOHANAN!

    Translation:

    To my Filipino Priest Friends, What is more important and sacred, the TRUTH or INCARDINATION? MORAL and VALUES or INCARDINATION? Please do not sell yourselves short and SPEAK the TRUTH!

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    1. Anon 7:22 PM are you the Manila contact?

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    2. So close, but oh so far. What makes you think I only have one. BTW, you'll be able to ask Cardinal Tagle himself in a few weeks. Oh, and keep an eye on the U Matuna this week, maybe they'll actually print Tagle's letter like he asked them to.

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  14. I am a victim of clergy abuse on Guam and healing now with springs of living water healing ministry . Junglewatch has helped me accept that I was a victim.

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    Apr 25, 2014 - During a conference in Peru last week, a Spanish cardinal expressed sadness over the fact that often, the Mass is “reduced to a mere banquet, ...

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    1. Use this link:
      http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/mass-becomes-perverted-when-community-celebrates-itself-laments-spanish-cardinal/

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