Monday, June 16, 2014

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS

I've been stringing this guy a long a bit. He's one of those who keeps demanding to know how I got "the letter". Yesterday I reposted the email header of "the letter" just to see if he'd pop back up again. Sure enough, he bit. Here's the exchange from yesterday and today:








Tim is the letter address to you?
  1. GO SPURS! (BTW, your verb has the wrong tense.)

  2. Well answer the question. Yes or no? Is it for you? Is the letter for you or not? That is the question?

  3. Well is the letter for you or not?? That is the question?

I led this guy a long a bit to demonstrate to the reading audience what liars do when caught in a lie: they become obsessed with discrediting the person who exposed their lying rear end. And in this case, this is probably the person who originated the lie which is why he can't sleep and is addicted to JungleWatch. 

I may not know who this person is exactly (though I have a good idea), but the people he lied to DO. And exposing a lie of this magnitude is probably beginning to cause Neocatechumenal members themselves, the ones not yet drunk on KAKA, to begin to question how else they may have been lied to. 

As this doubting and questioning grows within the ranks, the whole edifice, which was only a facade to begin with, will begin to come crashing down. And since we have the only diocese in the world which has a bishop who is himself a Kiko, the unravelling of the Neocatechumenal Way on Guam will begin a domino-like collapse of the whole Kiko-contraption as other bishops will see a warning in what happened in Guam.

Thus, the kiko's need to stop me. They lied to their people and lied about a Cardinal's support the same way they lie about the papal support of their liturgy, the magna cum laude's of their seminary graduates, the money they collect, and just everything else that is the target of a direct inquiry. 

They cannot afford for their people to know all this. So long as no one can question, the lies, the transfer of monies and property, the overthrow of the church from within, all that can continue. But now, because they have been caught in their biggest most obvious lie yet, some members will start to ask those dreaded questions (such as "just where does my money go?"). And some will begin to notice that the Emperor has no clothes

But, here, let me list for the record, some other letters I have in my possession which I have either posted or referenced on this blog THAT WERE NOT ADDRESSED TO ME:

  • Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron, letter to Fr. Paul Gofigan, July 16, 2013, Prot. No. 013-047
  • Fr. Paul Gofigan, letter to Parishioners of Santa Barbara Church, Dededo, Guam, July 20, 2013 
  • Fr. Paul Gofigan, letter to Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron, July 22, 2013
  • Fr. Paul Gofigan, letter to Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apruon, July 28, 2013
  • Msgr. David C. Quitgua, Vicar General, letter to Fr. Paul Gofigan, August 2, 2013, Prot. No. 013-053
  • Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron, letter to Fr. Paul Gofigan, August 20, 2013, Prot. No. 013-057
  • Fr. A.N. Dacanay, S.J. Motion to Dismiss, addressed to Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron, August 20, 2013
  • Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron, letter to Fr. Paul Gofigan, Sep. 10, 2013, Prot. No. 013-062
  • Fr. Paul Gofigan, letter to Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron, September 13, 2013 (demanding to be restored as pastor) 
  • Fr. Paul Gofigan, supplement to previous letter to Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron, September 13, 2013
  • Fr. A.N. Dacanay, S.J., Appeal of Fr. Paul Gofigan addressed to Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron, November 7, 2013
  • Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron, DECREE OF REMOVAL, Nov. 12, 2013, Prot. No. 013-074
  • Fr. Paul Gofigan to Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron, December 6, 2013 (request to set the record straight about what the Archbishop said at the clergy retreat in Manila of October 2013)
  • Fr. Paul Gofigan to Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron, January 13, 2014 (demand to set the record straight)
  • Fr. Paul Gofigan to Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron, January 15, 2014 (expressing disappointment with the Archbishop's lack of action as regards what he said at the retreat)
  • Fr. Paul Gofigan to Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron, January 16, 2014 (advising the Archbishop that what he told Fr. Paul at their private meeting was not acceptable)
  • Fr. Paul Gofigan, letter of termination to the subject employee, October 26, 2011

And I'm not even listing the letters (or noting the phone calls) that I have received anonymously by people who wanted me to know much uglier things than what appears in this list of letters. 

So how did I get all these? Well NOT from Fr. Paul, and not from any member of the clergy, and purposely so. I have seen how the Archbishop treats his clergy and I did not want to endanger them so I made sure not to involve them from the beginning. 

What you people don't want to accept is that there is a vast lay network behind Fr. Paul. Up till what happened to Fr. Paul, the Neocatechumenal Way, despite an increasing number of clashes with the rest of the Catholic community, was pretty much left alone. However, the brutal treatment of Fr. Paul was the catalyst that solidified the army that is now gathering against the Archbishop.

And your leaders know that if the Archbishop goes, so do you. This is why they tried to grab the title to the Yona property. This is why people like you are fighting tooth and nail to discredit me, which of course is laughable because every attempt, including this one, makes my case. 

So, keep scratching. Like a good journalist I don't reveal sources. I don't have to. But YOU have to face the people you LIED to. And that's why you keep coming back here. It's over dude. Tell the Archbishop to retire. It's going to get much worse. 

36 comments:

  1. There you have it. So your answer is NO? Right? Will keep a record of this, so you have access of the records (letters) from anonymous individuals who don't want to danger themselves? Thank you, this is enough and thanks for the details. Be expecting more. May GOD have mercy on your soul.

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    1. Oh, you poor, poor, pathetic little person. Keep scratching.

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    2. My goodness Jun 16 10:51AM, you do not see the desperation that's quite obvious coming from you, do you!

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    3. Tim, back off. Diana is tired after work. She's depressed with lack of cooperation among her followers. They are not obeying. Joy. Anyhow.

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  2. Now your entire post is copied to Diana's blog. The question still arises...who illegally gave you the letters!

    Now if Diana says she is not Ms. Terlaje, the only other person I know of now after seeing all these curve balls written on her blog, MAYBE a wife of an attorney who is with the The NCW Agana community. HMMMM!

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    1. www.lawguru.com

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    2. Be very careful what you ask for!
      Unless you really want all of us CATHOLICS ON GUAM to see what the NCW stands for and where all the money is going...oh and who is the TRUE LEADER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ON GUAM! Sorry Archbishop...you gonna have to sit this one out...Havent heard from you for loooonnnngggg Time!

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    3. Anonymous (June 16, 2014 at 11:50 AM) posted here and Anonymous/”uneducated old lady” per “Diana” (June 15, 2014 at 10:19 PM) posted in “The Illegitimate Removal of Fr. Paul Gofigan: Part XIII” references to www.lawguru.com. The latter had written — tongue-in-cheek — “Careful, Tim, Diana has a LAWYER,” so I checked out her blog.

      It seems “Diana” is now trying to establish a new case against Tim Rohr in her post “Personal Letters Are Copyrights.” She’s using legal advice from the above-mentioned website — applicable to the State of Illinois on the topic of “Intellectual Property” — as the foundation of her argument. It appears that she believes Tim has violated copyright laws by publishing the correspondence from the Archbishop, Fr. Paul Gofigan, Fr. Adrian Cristobal and Aaron Quitugua on this blog. I guess she considers these letters to be forms of “Intellectual Property.” Maybe “Diana” thinks that the writings of the Archbishop and Fr. Adrian are rough drafts of a novella in the fantasy genre on which they’re collaborating? I’m sure “Diana” and “Bernie” will be first in line to get their copies!

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    4. Was going to say "funny", but their beginning to be satanic in their obsession.

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    5. Mr. Rohr, you have been diagnosed on Diana's blog. You, sir, are a graphomaniac. Word probably too above some readers knowlege. Graphomania reflects a singular neurosis common to modernity: namely, the need to have an audience, “a public audience of unknown readers.” We neurotics.

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    6. But let's go ahead and challenge their stupidity. The letter from Cardinal Tagle was NOT a "personal" letter. While it was addressed to Jennifer Dulla, the author of the errant story, it was sent to Tony Diaz and Sister Marian, NOT to Jennifer Dulla. And why was this? Because it was NOT a personal letter to Jennifer Dulla. It was a general letter to the U Matuna to correct an errant public record. The Cardinal's name had been misused in a public way and he required a public retraction. It is a shame that the U Matuna did not go further and either post the letter or at least indicate the request for the correction had come from the Cardinal himself.

      In the case of the first letter to reach the public, the letter by the Archbishop demanding the resignation of Fr. Paul, this also was not a private letter. Fr. Paul held a public office in the church. The demand for his resignation was a public act as evidenced by the Archbishop's demand that Fr. Paul's ouster be announced at all the Masses and his public replacement with a parochial administrator. Fr. Paul himself advised the Archbishop that he would make the Archbishop's demand known to his parishioners.

      I could go on, but you can't negotiate with terrorists. They were caught in a lie and now they are squealing like the herd of pigs into which Jesus cast the demons after ordering them out of the two demon-possessed men.

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    7. @8:53. It appears that Diana and her ilk are my greatest audience. We blew past 400,000 last night. Thanks Diana. Keep sending people over here.

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    8. Doubt Diana and ILK are the bulk of readers. It is us. We want to be informed about our Church and its future. We are hopeful now. After years of rumor and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..

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  3. "Illegal" Way too funny! They are setting themselves up for a huge major em - bare - ass - moment!

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  4. Please,

    I invite all to write a letter or email to Archbishop Martin Krebs the Apostolic Nuncio, who oversees our region in the Pacific. We need to get our concerns heard further. I sent in mine this morning to the Nuncio.

    here is Tim's link from an earlier post to contact His Excellency:

    http://www.junglewatch.info/p/nuncio.html

    ~Let's fix our Island Please~

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    1. I wrote to the Nuncio in January and received a response acknowledging receipt of my message the next month. The address I used was nuntius@ihug.co.nz which was provided in the tab "Contact Nuncio."

      However I honestly think our local priests will need to do as the priests in Florida did, per the contents of this article — http://ncronline.org/news/faith-parish/priests-letter-nuncio-denounces-bishop — for the Nuncio to take notice. The article states that 10 priests in the diocese took the "highly unusual step" of writing to the Nuncio and that the bishop denies that there is a problem. At least this bishop has the courage to respond to questions and criticisms. Not so Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron who has chosen to remain incommunicado behind his Chancery Walls.

      Our Lady, Queen of the Clergy, pray for our Priests, especially for our Beleaguered Non-NCW Priests.

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    2. True Mary Lou. A group of ten priests expressing concern to the apostolic delegate . If it is just one priest it will go no place.

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  5. I'll send mine today.

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  6. Yeah I'm writing the Nuncio also and copy and pasting the letters that Tim that he illegally obtain. Stolen and maliciously posted on this blog. I have 76 people doing the same.

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    1. Be glad you are anonymous because I have a happy lawyer ready to sue your ass off for public false accusations, harassment, and whatever else he feels like nailing you for. Not to mention what you will have to pay for violating the eighth commandment. So go for it!

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    2. 76 you say? Impressive. 1776 Declaration of Independence from those who taxed without representation. Archbishop's Annual Appeal. BTW, must have missed it. Are the grand totals in yet?

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    3. Go right ahead you'll run out of money.... LMAO!

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    4. Anon 12:05,

      76 is a drop in the bucket, you will see, but we know your just bluffing. Your actually scared. None of your false accusations will stick; your kind are false witnesses of the truth... And you know who the truth is right?

      Send those letters... It will only help reveal the truth. Send them, but remember that they mean nothing if you send them anonymously.

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    5. Oh, don't worry cowards. So long as you hide behind rocks you're safe...except for the Eighth Commandment. You can't hide from that court.

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    6. 76', thank you for your insight, I will submit my letter to the Nuncio, on what a big MESS both the archbishop, his buddies and NCW has done on this island. If you don't already know the buck is suppose to stop with the ArchB on these matters, but since he has clearly neglected his fold and he insist on being a "NEO ONLY" kinda guy then our only recourse is Rome. If Tim is wrong then the ArchB and his 'guys' will be admonished for making this big MESS out of hand and not handling it correctly. If Tim is right, the ArchB and his 'guys' will still be admonished for creating this big MESS. Ohh poetic justice how funny and cruel are your ways, but how right you are!

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    7. @12:05 pm. Got a little too frisky, there. Now, that Diana is home and on the computer, she is very, very disappointed with your copy and paste approach to living the WAY. You must be really hanging your head. Do not take initiatives like that 12:05 pm. Diana went to all that work to get an online lawyer and you go ahead and screw it all up the next day. Dunce cap for you at next community meeting. Now you have to back pedal with Nuncio. Bummer.

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  7. TO Anon.June16.12:05.
    You actually have a good point. By doing what you mentioned above will actually help the cause of this blog...to make the Apostolic Delegate pay a visit to this Diocese and will see for HIMSELF actual PROBLEMS with this Diocese under the guidance and care of THE ARCHBISHOP! DONT FORGET TO COPY AND PASTE....EVERYTHING! DO NOT LEAVE ANYTHING OUT! I AM COUNTING ON YOU!

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  8. Send the Nuncio those letters about the Archbishop. It will light a fire under the Archbishops Seat to wake him up.

    I'm also sending Archbishop Krebs the report on how messed up the Diocese is because it's Priests in the report point fingers at the NCW as being the main cause of disunity.

    Hold on to your hats boys and girls this is finally escaping Guam's gravity...!!!

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  9. Thank you Tim for keeping us updated about the situation in the archdiocese.

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  10. My letter to the Nuncio has been sent. Penny

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    1. My letter prompted a longer than usual response ....Nuncio Krebs is awake now. I'm a regular contributor to his inbox. I should know. Clickity clack and send. easy. Almost too easy.

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  11. Priest in Manila cardinal tagle shelters distributed the letter. Diana will get him soon.

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  12. Anon 11:02, what do you mean exactly "Diana will get him"? Please elaborate.

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  13. Painful path of Fr. Paul. Remove them 12.16pm. Follow or go simple.

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  14. Diana will remove, has already removed priests who are potential threats . Diana knows how to remove priests. Tim if you a priest you be gone from Guam by now.

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    1. DiAAAAAna! DiAAAAna! You're causing problems. Lots of problems. Guess you have pondered the repercussions. Know you are busy with work and stuff. But take some time to ponder your outcome and those who are associated with you. All of those with whom you are associated should be considered with love.

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