Sunday, July 20, 2014

WE SHOULD BE CONTENT TO LET EVIL PEOPLE LIVE IN THE SAME HOUSE - A. APURON.

Excerpts from Archbishop Apuron's sermon today on the parable of the weeds and the wheat with my comments in red. (It appears that now that "weeds" have been discovered in the Apuron garden, we're instructed to shut up about it.)

Some Christians today are like overzealous servants who could not tolerate the evil deeds and the evil weeds. In their zeal to serve God they go on a crusade against what they perceive as evil with the intention of cleaning up the church, our island, the nation, and even the world. In the end they discover that they made a big mistake. 

(No, Archbishop. We have no such lofty aims. We are just trying to stop you and your neocatechumenal masters from destroying more people like Fr. Paul. Simple. Oh, yes, and from endangering the "safety of children" by incardinating certain priests who have been kicked out of other dioceses for endangering the safety of children.) 


Christians should not try to get rid of bad people from the world. We must let good and evil live side by side in the world to the day of their reckoning when they will be known for sure by their fruits. We should be content to let evil people to live in the same house, in the same apartment building, in the same neighborhood, in the same island, in the same country, and in the same world for the simple reason that we cannot absolutely identify without error who is the good and who is the bad guy. 

(This is simply staggering. I'm going to have to devote a whole other post to this. But read this again and think about the Santa Barbara situation.)

Of course we have our ideas who the good and the bad guys are. But like the servants we could be wrong. (Except Archbishop Apuron of course.) Faithful servants are those who recognize this possibility that they could be wrong and are so prepared to suspend judgement and action. Intolerance, the desire to get rid of evil people around us breeds fanatics who end up being unfaithful servants of our God. (I'm living rent free inside this man's head.)

Examples of such overzealous servants who want to get rid of people who they perceive as evil who end up going against the mind of God abound. 

(SMH! And to think that just hours before he said this he was spreading evil rumors about two priests who he wants to get rid of...we'll get to that.)

We can think of other Christians who go about hunting down abortion providers and homosexuals. 

(Perhaps now would be a good time to remind the world why Archbishop Apuron is famous as a homosexual hunter.)

The message of today is loud and clear. To be a servant of God you must be prepared to make room for those you perceive as evil. 

(Okay, abortion protestors. Put away your signs. Go home. Let them kill the babies. Archbishop says so. Make room for evil.)

The late Pope Paul VI had this comment on this very parable of the weeds and the wheat. He told a Msgr. Poblette who was assisting him at the time. "In the church today there are some wonderful wheat which is growing together with the weeds. If we uproot the weeds now we will risk uprooting the wheat with it also." 

(Of course it doesn't occur to the Archbishop that this may be precisely why the popes have been so charitable to the NCW. They are, for now, letting the weeds (kiko's) grow with the wheat.)

I believe this is an impressive statement because it shows the faith of our Holy Father regarding the experience with various types of communities that began popping up even back in the 60’s and continue to grow even today. 

(No need to bring in the neo evangelists into our Masses anymore. The Archbishop will do it himself. But lest anyone think the Archbishop is failing, he is not. The Neocatechumenal Way believes that parish-based Catholicism is dead and that the future of the church is the small community. And from the looks of Mass attendance today at the Archbishop's Mass, he is doing very well. Might as well just shut the Mass down and save on the aircon bill. 







30 comments:

  1. A very small man with a big tall green hat. That is a mob scene compared to Fr. Michael's Mass at 9:30.....Archbishop does not write his homilies. Tim you only think he's talking about you. He has lots of other people on his mind. Oh, yes he does!!!

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    1. Yes. I know. But I'm the only fanatic with a name.

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  2. Tim, you are so infuriating. CONGRATULATIONS.!

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  3. It caused me to chuckle a little, reading the column of Tony Diaz in the U Matuna today. "We have a broken bridge in our Church on Guam. Actually, make that many, many, many broken bridges. It's OK to say that,. In fact, recognizing the wound, is the first step to healing it."

    Mr. Diaz, you don't have to say it's ok to say that. You don't apologize for the truth. Thanks for the chuckle.

    "And that is why today, in the midst of difficulties and yet gaping wounds, I believe in our Church. I believe in our Archbishop. I believe in our priests." For a moment there, I believed you. Even after knowing that the Archbishop bragged like MC Hammer, "Can't touch me." (Actually, I am paraphrasing M C Hammer) I thought the Archbishop might have been misunderstood like the way the deacons misunderstood him when he "requested" them to walk the Way or else. But after reading his homily above, sorry Tony (unless I be accused of disrespect. That is Tony Diaz), but I have to pass on that believing the Archbishop.

    You know how the Archbishop can make me believe him. That he has the third quality of a true servant of God. That is to unify the Church into the one, holy and apostolic Church is if he re-instates Fr. Paul. Please don't give me that crap (sorry truly for this word but I can't think of a more appropriate word) that it is already with the Vatican and you, the Archbishop can't M C Hammer that too. "Can't touch it."

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    1. The bridges aren't broken, they are burnt...and were so by Apuron.

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  4. Seeing the almost empty church, I think this will result to something positive. Maybe our brothers and sisters from the Way will finally attend mass in our Church.

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  5. So, are you saying that aside from Father Paul being outed, there are two more priests he has in mind?

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  6. Other priests worrying.

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  7. Evil rumors like what.

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  8. I am not able to listen. What do ii need to do

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  9. Even if the Archbishop did his due diligence with respect to John Howard Wadeson (something far from certain), WHY WHY WHY is he a seminary formator??? Is there any Catholic seminary in the world where a man who has been stripped of his priestly faculties in a major archdiocese because of two credible accusations of sexual abuse of minors is given the responsibility for the spiritual formation and vocational discernment for seminarians in another archdiocese? Wow. It's not pharisaical to ask that question.

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    1. Brother Chuck, Father Wadeson had a conversion, so now all is fine! Cry in community, Father Pius judges you worthy and converted and you are good to go! NCW operates differently that the rest of the Church. Not your business you don't walk, do you? As Diana says, how long have you been walking?

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    2. It is every Catholic's business, when a priest is accused of sexual molestation of children. The church has specific guidelines about this, guidelines the Archbishop chose to ignore. So I guess for you neos Father Pius is God?!
      As far as walking, just walk away, away from our church, then you can do whatever you want.

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  10. " Blessed is the man who hath not walked in the counsel of the ungodly, nor stood in the way of sinners, nor sat in the chair of pestilence." Psalm 1:1

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  11. So if we know that a priest is sexually young boys, we should not do anything because who are we to judge, and more so, because how do we know if that is truly evil? It could be that those two boys need purification as part of God's plan! I think our archbishop has gone bananas!

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    1. Yes. It appears that now that some very serious weeds have been discovered in Apuron's own field we're supposed to leave them be. However, he had no issue weeding out Santa Barbara and publicly building a fire to burn them.

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    2. Anon at 2:35 did you chk with Diana that you can publicly admit to "NCW operating different than the rest of the Church"....oops. I was taught going against operations of The Catholic Church was DISOBEDIENCE. Please do not disrespect the Sacrament of Reconcilliation to "a cry in the community, conversion...good to go". Why the compulsion to re baptize, re cathecize, re invent The Mass and the manner of receiving The Sacrament of Holy Euchrist and re invent further the Sacrament of Holy Orders to churn out NCW version. Diana said in her blog today that the priest who were told to build NCW by the Archbishop were in DISOBEDIENCE to the ArchBishop and the Catholic Church. Please tell her that "NCW operates different from the church because it is DIFFERENT ....there LIES (after LIES and more LIES) the problem.
      Archbishop Anthony, you are sorely losing ground to the remainder of us that gave you the benefit of the doubt. The good Monsignor David Quitugua the elder was correct in reminding you that you have duties to God in compliance with the Catholic Church that includes ALL of us. Is it true that the NCW is "NOT for everyone?!" SInce when is religion not for everyone....THAT separation is the workings of a dark source.

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    3. My dear Tony, the good person you appear to be, thank you for acknowleging the disunity. You have responsibilities to unbiased reporting as the Editor of our island's Catholic newspaper, it has long been unaddressed because we are a courteous and respectful culture. Monsignor David Quitugua was on target. When he said that the Archbishop cannot bring his personal practices in the NCW and needs to shepherd his flock and clergy in union with his vows. That bridge building is not something he appears ready for from his one sided perception. It is not even sinking that the concerns were from a body of people and the clergy in plea to save the Church. Unless we have a spiritual leader in compliance with the Magistereum of Rome's Catholic Church we have merely an archbishop masquerading as a catholic.

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  12. Archbishop Apuron, so Msgr. David Quitugua the elder, Father Mike,Father Richard Father Efren, Father Paul, Father Jeff, Deacons Steve, Len and Steve, Catholic Apologist Tim Rohr and Chuck White and those of us practicing Catholocism in the Catholic Church in union with the Magisterium of The Catholic Church ....what did you call us ? Tony Diaz...do the Umatuna a favor in researching a movement by artist musician who did not even come from catholic upbringing and found religion with the gypsies. Bother to ask why the Sacraments of Baptism,Reconcilliation, Holy Eucharist and Holy Orders are being re-invented and please do not forget the Highest Form of Prayer-The Mass! are we done?!...oh no...let's work on His House and move it away from the Church.Does not smell Catholic does it. Pope and anyone else in leadership of the Catholic Church NCW?...No?!...why not? We allowed EVIL to live alongside Archbishop, look at the layers of deceit unravelled with documentation. We are embarrassed that Cardinale Tagle message at Msgr.Benavente was clearly directed to you! We are all sinners but you have the heaviest of guilt on your plate to account for non leadership.

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  13. As for Diana, she will always protect the NCW and its members. NCW priests, seminarians, et. are saints and the rest of us are sinners. When a diocesan priest voices his opinion he is disobedient. When an investigation is being done on the RMS priest, facilities, etc. and we want answers we are disobedient also. They can never do any wrong. Such humbleness.

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  14. Janet B - MangilaoJuly 21, 2014 at 7:54 PM

    Too bad the Archbishop doesn't make his own homilies. One would think that after so many years as a priest he woud feel comfortable in creating something that was truly his own. At least Fr Michael Jucutan lets himself be guided by the Holy Spirit. The question remains...who guides the Archbishop?

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  15. This is the kind of homily you will have if you use it to your advantage and not to God's! You know, if you truly believed in this, Archbishop, you would not have removed Fr. Paul. But guess what. The "weed" that Fr. Paul accepted back in Church had become a wheat. No matter, you just want to get rid of Fr. Paul? Why? I wonder not.

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  16. Imagine this homily and he knew the wadeson history.

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