The Kiko's have started a petition to counter ours. Ours is to get rid of him, theirs, to keep him.
Given this, I am willing to admit defeat. Fr. Pius' Carmelite superiors will support their petition and ignore ours. Here's why:
According to everything we've learned, Fr. Pius' superiors washed their hands of him years ago because he was so much trouble to their order after he became involved with the Neocatechumenal Way. Guam is about as far away from Malta as you can get on this planet so Pius' superiors couldn't be happier. They'll probably reply to the Kiko's petition with a simple LOL and a happy face :)
Alas. Their gain is our loss. But we will persist. (Sign the petition here.) At some point his superiors will incur some liability under church law for letting their guy wander the earth destroying parishes and priests with O.C.D. after his name. Though I suspect they will exclaustrate him before it comes to that. Pius isn't worried though. He knows Archbishop Apuron will incardinate him here.
We should put up a sign.
"Exclaustrated? Banned from other dioceses?
No problem. Welcome!"
Says on his site that he was provincial as a young priest. Pope Francis held the same position as a young person and said he made a lot of errors. Maybe Pius didn't want to return after that. OR, maybe after his NCW community told him they were his new family he took it seriously, haha.
ReplyDeleteI was thinking how come Diana would make that silly insinuation about Tim Rohr's daughter influencing PDN and now Tim's working for/with Msgr James being a conflict of interest. I just realized it is not for us non-Neo's. It is for the Neo's. It is enough for them to hear something this silly and then doubt whatever the PDN publishes and whatever Tim Rohr's say in defense of Msgr James. Let us give it to them that maybe, just maybe there is conflict of interest but believing that Tim's daughter could influence PDN. What? That can't be. And then ask their heads to explain further.
ReplyDeleteI am not sure if Tim you got a copy of the supposedly complete interview of Pius in the PDN
that the Neo heads sent out to their members. I saw both the supposedly complete interview
and the "edited" interview that was published by PDN. It didn't change my view about the interview of Pius one way or another. But again, sending the supposedly complete interview
will give the unsuspecting Neo that oh they tried to present the interview in a bad light. I truly
hope the 99% Neo members start thinking a little more than just what they are told. Time to ask questions. Ask them about your approved statutes. To the 99% Neos. You know the challenge of Tim about your statutes, right? Prove him wrong and he will shut up. As simple as that.
The PDN is always limited by space. And as you know, Pius can take up a lot of it. The PDN changes things I submit too to fit their limitations. I find it amazing that they gave Pius as much space as they did. No one else has had that much personal space in a front page story. If Pius want to speak more all he has to do is what the rest of do and submit a letter.
DeleteI couldn't believe the Archbishop not saying anything more about the closure of the museum than by saying he didn't know about its closure.
ReplyDeleteI couldn't believe the Archbishop for not saying anything about what the financial experts led by Joe Rivera revealed.
Does he really think we have such short memories that he can continue to ignore these? I must admit, we do have short memories. But thank God for Tim Rohr. He doesn't have. And if he does forget, all he had to do is go back to all his papers and documentations. So, if the Archbishop is banking on us forgetting these things, that won't happen. I am sure how he wished Tim Rohr was a priest so he can promise him a long ardous and painful.........
Just some observations from carefully scanning through the names listed on the petition of support for Fr. Pius put out by the Neos in Guam.... 1. about an estimated one fourth to one third of those who signed the petition aren't even living in Guam (international neos?) 2. most of those listed hail from neo immersed parishes, namely Barrigada, Santa Rita, Chalan Pago. Neo-resistant Parishes such as Sta. Teresita, St. Jude and Santa Barbara have an estimated less than ten names listed from those parishes. Most of the signers come from San Vicente, Barriagad (given), Chalan Pago, Asan, and Sta Rita (makes sense). No prominent local politician is listed on the petition (prominent meaning gubernatorial,senatorial,judicial levels of government). Some areas of the petition are skewed. A case in point, 11 San Agustin names are listed (and those are all minors). The first name listed on the petition is Neo Priest Edivaldo Oliveira, followed by three female names, one highly suspected and reported to be Diana the neo-blogger. There are also numerous seminarian names listed. Another interesting fact is the repetitive use of Agafa Gumas, Santa Bernadita by numerous signers as their parish, even though their residence is a foreign country. This suggests that the signing of these names were initiated by one source, and hurriedly listed Agafa Gumas to expediate propagating signers onto the petition. Most names listed suggest isolated familial relations, possibly small numbered families who are members of the Way. So if you subtract all the seminarians listed, the foreign international names listed under agafa gumas, other international names, the neo priests listed, all that we're left with is a small cluster of neo families in support of Pius. Nice to know this!
ReplyDeletePius is a missionary Cathechist in the U.S., Ireland, Guam, Saipan, Hawaii and Kerabas. People support him. You still can't accept is wiser than your plan. Pitiful you have to sleep at night trying to analys things. God is stronger
ReplyDeleteHere we go with the stepford wives brainwashed kiko talk. Who says we're having to analyze this all night? This was just thought out right after reading the names on that pathetic petition. Did not God grace humankind with minds to discern His wisdom? "You still can accept is wiser than your plan?" What plan (broken English btw)? The previous statement was an analysis of that Pius support petition. Oh and sleep is great and restful by the way! And each day comes with the blessing of knowing bit by bit, the truth about the Neocatechumenal Way and the deception you're attempting to bring upon our people is being made known to ALL our people. Quake with fear because God's justice truly will be made known. And well, if you won't quake with fear, could you all at least spend a little more time writing homilies that make sense and that people can understand? Nobody understands what these Neo priests are saying in their homilies!!!
DeleteAnon 7:38PM deception brought to your people? All he was doing is to announce the Gospel, Blessed Diego did the same with out knowing the language. Brainwashed claims, same with the accusation of the Pharisses to the Christian and you sure sound like one. What you claim is envy.
DeleteBlessed Diego was Catholic.
DeleteBlessed Diego wasn't a heretic though like you in the WAY. Blessed Diego was a Catholic. You and your way are NOT, and may you all be damned for heresy sooner than later so that this debate will end finally and we can worship in the way Mother Church intended us to worship. Not some Cult Folk Dance ritual created by a heretic Flamenco Musician who likes plagiarizing and taking credit for paintings and an ex Nun who couldn't even make it as a bonafide Nun. I'm talking about your NEO founders by the way just in case you didn't realize what con artists these people are.
DeleteFive Popes endorse it, so you say all them are heretic? Yes?
DeleteHere we go with the blah blah five popes false argument again, deflecting away from the fact that you are the heretics, no one said the Popes are heretics. NAME ALL FIVE POPES PLEASE without misspelling their names? Just because the Popes gave limited approval to your statutes doesn't discredit the fact that many in the way have committed abomination by improperly deviating from the normal sanctioned liturgical rites. The popes are not heretics, YOU ARE HERETICS for not properly following your statutes. What do you not understand? Did anyone claim to call the Popes heretics?NO. YOU IGNORANT NEOS, YOU! YOU BASTARDIZED what the Popes decided on SO YOU ARE THE HERETICS AND MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR HERETICAL SOULS ALL OF YOU! BURN ALONG WITH YOUR FALSE PROPHETS AND PRIESTS. IGNORANT ANIMALS, STUDY YOUR OWN STATUTES AND WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, STUDY THE MOTHER CHURCH'S MAGISTERIUM SO YOU CAN FINALLY WAKE UP TO YOUR ABOMINATION. You're like a bunch of robots spouting the same brainwashing like lobotomized empty husks. No ONE IS BUYING YOUR BS ANYMORE so go back to your little communities, dance around your heretical circles as we rise to take our Church back! GO run along now, and don't forget your guitars and tambourines, and don't forget to light your menorah (which is Jewish btw) Ignorant apes. SO TIRED OF HEARING THE SAME IGNORANT GIBBERISH OVER AND OVER AND OVER!!!!
DeleteThanks 1:35am :)
DeleteNumbers are increasing! Come on Timmy, the fruits of Gods giving is free! Don't be sacred for he will lead you. If you seek you'll shall find! The power of the holly spirits will embrace you. So my friend come! Your invited. Its free.
ReplyDeleteWell isn't that another little bit of kiko fruit. Mocks my name, tells me not to be "sacred" (can't spell scared), tells me about the power of the "holly" spirits (plural) ("holly" may also be a Freudian slip), and then invites me to his shindig. It's like someone coming up to you with a bad cold, sneezing all over you, and then inviting you to lunch as he wipes his snot on your clothes.
DeleteDear Crazy Neo Lunatics -
ReplyDeleteFirst of all ending your sentences and questions with a "yes" screams out who you are and where you are from yes? You arrogant filth you think because you and your dumb seminary pop out "priests" faster than Dunkin Donuts does it's new batch of donuts that you have credibility? Give me a break. You are not welcome here. Your disdain for our priests that are non-neo has led us to this place of near revolt. You have no idea how far we will go to protect our beloved priests. Take your koolaide and go else where as you are not welcome here. And by here I mean Guam not just the Jungle. This is NOT your home. We have been colonized before as a people and you have severely underestimated our people. We will not let it happen again. Go somewhere that truly needs Christian assistance you freaks. You came to an island that is immersed in its faith and traditions and tried to impose your freakish Way on us. It didn't work. Take the few families that have been brain washed with you. But if you decide to leave them that is fine we will welcome them back to Planet Earth when you leave and warmly embrace them in our true Catholic faith. Sounds like a good idea yes?
Anonymous (August 15, 2014 at 5:52 AM), your statement "You have no idea how far we will go to protect our beloved priests" has piqued my interest. So far two "beloved priests" — Fr. Paul A. M. Gofigan and Msgr. James L. G. Benavente — have been removed from their respective parishes without due process per Canon Law. How many more "beloved priests" must fall under the hatchet of Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron before "we" will "protect" them? Please advise …
DeleteYes, all neocrats leave the island and build your own community elswhere and bring aaa, Adrian and David with you and all the neo seminarians and priests, we don't understand their homily anyway. Michael jucutan cannot even speak and deliver his homily. What a joke.
ReplyDeletePeople i can't believe you all have mindsets on judging others. I pitty you all on your judgment day. Open your hearts a little bit and the holy spirits will take over, God will fill your hearts with joy and love and forgiveness.
ReplyDeleteWe have already seen what has become of you. Why would we want to follow?
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