Thursday, June 25, 2015

REPLYING TO COMMENTS

The PDN poll has left us with a wealth of data. I say "data" and not just "comments" because the context of the comments, the poll, affords us the opportunity to look at the comments as data - a true study of the deformation of consciences and minds by Kiko's theology. Let's start with this one:

  • J. Bautista - yesterday
    PDN asked to rate our confidence in the Arch Bishop but we are mistaken if we assume the position is to filled by popular vote. It was by popular vote that Jesus Christ was nailed to the cross; crucified. Let us also not forget that it is Jesus Christ who is the head; the leader of his Church that we should be following.
    I have little confidence in any man but ask me if I have faith in Arch Bishop Apuron and I will tell you YES. We may not like or accept the message God sends through his servant the Arch Bishop Anthony Apuron but that is our problem.




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So J. Bautista, you would rather have faith in Apuron than "any man". Well there's your first problem - apparently thinking that Apuron is more than a man. 

J. Bautista, some news for you:

Bad bishops started with Judas, and since then there have been an untold number of Judases who have held the office of "bishop" - prompting one of the Church Fathers to comment as early as the 4th century that the "floor of hell was paved with the skulls of bishops."

In the same century, St. Jerome, the translator of the only version of the Bible the Catholic Church still holds to be without error, wrote "the whole world groaned to find itself Arian". This sad comment was prompted by the  defeat of "trinitarianism" at the Council of Ariminum where most of the world's bishops opposed the essential Christian doctrine of three persons in one God...as Kiko cleverly does.

Kiko's Arian heresy was manifestly documented by a Kiko priest actually teaching our deacon candidates that Jesus Christ was a sinner and that he too "experienced the forgiveness of the Father", just like us. This is the belief that Apuron - and apparently you - uphold: JESUS CHRIST IS A SINNER. That's some serious crap, J. Bautista.

More news for you J. Bautista:

In January of 2006, your beloved Apuron publicly and brazenly rejected the authority of Pope Benedict on KOLG by rejecting a very clear directive from the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Sacraments. Apuron has since refused to obey the same directive he was given then. You can read about it here and actually listen to him say it. He has never apologized, and in fact, recruited me and several others to lie for him to cover this up. 

Feel free to follow your beloved Apuron, J. Bautista. For my part, I  refuse to live a lie or follow a liar. 



12 comments:

  1. And this:

    "We may not like or accept the message God sends through his servant the Arch Bishop Anthony Apuron but that is our problem"

    What a trite statement. What is "the message God sends through his servant the Arch Bishop" prithee tell?

    That you should pray to the Holy Spirit for assistance in discerning evil? That power corrupts? That even shepherds can be fooled by wolves in sheep's clothes? That one man can do a lot of damage?

    I'd love to hear J. Bautista's "message". Actually, I probably wouldn't....

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    1. He wouldn't respond. Sadly, if this is the J. Bautista I think it is, it's too bad. He is an otherwise intelligent person. But all the more evidence of what Kiko's theology can do to one's brain.

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    2. Intelligent people are not necessarily endowed with sound judgment when making choices. What more with the average Joe and Jane. Kiko's theology appeals to those who make decisions based on emotions, The KAKA has a way of destroying one's ability to see the truth, making one dependent on the NCW community. The Neos claim their cult is all about saving souls. Really? So what they are saying is they are saving souls while they blatantly defy the Pope's wishes for them to comply with the magisterium. Yes they dare DISOBEY the Holy Father while they expect us to obey the archdeceiver, Anthony Sablan Apuron. I say no WAY!!!

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    3. I'm sorry to say that intellegence is sometimes the obstacle that blinds the person from seeing the truth, and may be the factor in play in this case.. The intellectual pride that draws attention to one's self in relation to God.

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  2. J. Bautista,
    Do you realize what the heck you are saying? Our obligation is always to God, and to those leaders who teach the truth. Any human being who lies and perpetuates division and condones erroneous heretical teaching is not above the laws of God, and we are not obligated to obey them, even if he be the Pope. Pay attention to what our Lord teaches us in Sacred Scripture, "By their fruit you will recognize them."Matt 7:16, "Every good tree bears good fruit: Matt 7:17. Is the Archbishop producing good fruit?, Is he gathering or scattering?, Is he building up or tearing down? You are certainly brainwashed and in your cult cannot see the truth.for what it really is. The blind leading the blind...

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  3. I thought that the assertion, "God chose him" in the poll comments to be very interesting.

    We actually cannot say that. We can say that God allowed the Pope to freely choose our Archbishop, and God allowed our Archbishop to make each and every one of his pastoral choices over the last 3 decades. And He made his grace available to both the Pope and the Archbishop in the choices they made. The question is, then, have all of the Archbishop's choices been grace-enabled? Tragically, no.

    We also can say that the Archbishop's episcopal ordination was not in any sense a blessing on all future choices that he would make.

    At this point I'm wondering if members of the Neocatechumenal Way believe that their catechists have been chosen by God.

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    1. I think you know the answer after hearing testimonies from RMS seminarians during mass that God chose them despite there hedonistic past.

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  4. I would say that the Grace of God is always operative, However the Archbishop, or any man for that matter by his free will can forget, overlook or reject entirely this grace. When our will cooperates with God's grace, then we see that God's grace becomes efficacious in our lives. Our desires, motives and resulting actions are really the product of the choices we make, and as free will impiles a responsibility, the consequences of our choices are what we have to live with in the end. So God wills and predestines us all for good. It is when we choose our will over his that we fall. So the big question is, how can we tell that the Grace of God is efficacious in one's life? Jesus tells us, examine the fruits...






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    1. To anon at 11.20: Come again!!! ???? What the heck are you trying to say?? You go in circles!!
      Advise: introduce your idea, develop it, conclude in simple terms.
      Stick to words that most people understand, but most importantly that you understand and master. If not use simpler words.
      The frame of the thought you develop has to be clear.....short of that, you shall loose both your reader and your frame of thought....
      Before serving anybody an idea that is not yours, make sure you understand what that idea is, not just bits and pieces of a position you have not quite mastered.
      The fruits of your expose, is that it sounds like a 6th grade essay.
      Reminds me of the science teacher that explained to his students, that if you cut the four legs of a frog, she goes deaf, and that is the main reason she cannot follow up on your order to jump.....
      Obviously god endowed us with the gift of logic. May be, just may be, we should try to use that gift?? Remember the parable of the Talent??

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    2. Frenchie, I think Anon 11:20am is saying the same thing that I did, except that he/she is not so clear on whether the Archbishop has failed to cooperate with God's grace with his choices. We say that he has failed numerous times, and those actions are chronicled very well here on Tim's blog.

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    3. Neo-speak? All sense of logic out of whack at this stage. LOL 11:20 AM is another victim of Pius the master manipulator, tyrant, and bully.

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  5. Frenchi, Chuck,
    I guess the topic of God's Grace and man's free will is not so easy to understand. As I was responding to Chuck's comments that God's grace was is always operative and never un-enabled or enabled by man. However man by his free will can reject or deny Gods grace in which the resulting effect is the cause of his down fall. And yes we can tell the fruits of AAA's actions are clearly his will instead of God's will as the fruits are clearly documented in this blog as Chuck stated.

    The actions of the AAA are all his own, as he is given the gifts of intellect to search the truth and the will to respond to to or against evil, no one is to blame but himself. He cannot even say the Devil made him do it. All external influences are but temptations, and by God's grace can be overcome. The Human will is always free to choose.

    Sri this got you all riled up.

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