Thursday, July 16, 2015

OH ZOLTAN, HOW I'VE MISSED YOU!

"Stolen" from Zoltan's Facebook Page

DonaMila's comment, which Zoltan is responding to, is at the bottom of this post. The underlined will be commented on.




  • Zoltán Székely Dear DonaMila, I appreciate your honest sharing, especially that you stand for your opinion by giving your name! I had criticized Tim Rohr repeatedly for promoting a culture of anonymity at his blog, when he allows vicious comments by people hiding behind their anonymity who do not take responsibility for their action by revealing their identity. I tell you only a single button should be set correctly on the feature page of any blog to allow or not allow anonymous comments! 

    In contrast, by giving your name you promote a culture of integrity, when you stand behind your comment by your whole person and qualities not hiding your identity. I can only applaud your honest decision and your personal integrity in doing so! The culture of anonymity and the culture of integrity are the exact opposite of each other, therefore they are absolutely irreconcilable! You may go either by the one or by the other, but mixing the two will lead to inevitable moral relativism and corruption. 

    Even though Tim Rohr stole material from my Facebook page and used it for his own purposes without my permission, I gave him the benefit of doubt based on our friendly relation from the past. I have always praised Tim's Monday evening Bible studies he conducted in the Cathedral's gift shop where I met many good Catholic sisters and brothers who were deeply interested in a better understanding of the Word of the Lord. Tim provided this opportunity that he is very well skilled in. Perhaps, this is what he should continue doing... When he posted my office location and phone number in a hateful manner on the front page at his blog, however, he betrayed his respectability by publishing private data of a GovGuam workplace. The irony is that he, in fact, posted erroneous information and his rude trampling around died off in ridicule. This is all about this story. 

    I absolutely agree with you that moral relativism must be avoided. Whatever is published at one blog should not be used as justification for publishing mean things at another. I know that Junglewatch will throw out each and every comment that challenges the owner's agenda. There are only a handful critical comments allowed through in order to make fun of them. It is their style. So what? I am sure Diana would never ever throw out any comment because it challenges her opinion. On the contrary, she writes "I also believe in Freedom of Expression so long as it is according to the rules of conduct." I believe her. It would be moral relativism if she would do any other way. 

    Regarding speculations, I agree with you, those are better left out. Tim Rohr "unfriended" me at his Facebook page when I characterized his Junglewatch as a source of gossip, hearsay and superstition. The problem of gossip, hearsay and superstition is that publishing them could easily lead to incited emotions, hatred and trash talk. Opening up the door for unbridled speculations is a sure sign that someone enjoys the ugly features of trash talk exhibited only at sorrowfully mismanaged blog sites.


I'm so glad Zoltan decided to address me personally in his comment. This allows me to rightfully respond. And Zoltan is always so much fun to respond to. Let's begin!!

ZOLTAN: I had criticized Tim Rohr repeatedly for promoting a culture of anonymity at his blog, when he allows vicious comments by people hiding behind their anonymity who do not take responsibility for their action by revealing their identity. 

TIM: LOL! Zoltan. You criticize me "repeatedly for promoting a culture of anonymity" yet you are a regular contributor to a blog where the actual blogger, not just the commenters, is anonymous! LOL! That's Exhibit A of KAKA on the brain. Oh, and how many times have we caught you on my blog under various pseudonyms? This is why thoughtful people can't believe they actually allow you to teach at a university. LOL!

ZOLTAN: Even though Tim Rohr stole material from my Facebook page and used it for his own purposes without my permission, I gave him the benefit of doubt based on our friendly relation from the past.

TIM: LOL! You really think that the stuff you post to a Facebook Timeline is copyrighted or something? Get your permission? LOL. A university professor and he doesn't know how to use Facebook, yet he lectures us about it. I've got news for you Zoltan. I just copied your whole comment above from your Facebook page. Ummmm, it's PUBLIC because you set it for PUBLIC. Here, everybody. Everybody go and copy all you want from Zoltan's PUBLIC Facebook Page. Here's the link. And the "benefit of the doubt". Too funny. I wish I had time to go back and find all those nasty comments you sent me. In fact, Zoltan, you were my real impetus to start JungleWatch. I figured that your comments were so incredibly KAKA-ridiculous that I didn't want to limit my enjoyment of them to just my Facebook friends. I wanted to share them with the whole world so I started JungleWatch. And now people from over 150 countries have you to thank for saving them from mental death by KAKA.

ZOLTAN: When he posted my office location and phone number in a hateful manner on the front page at his blog, however, he betrayed his respectability by publishing private data of a GovGuam workplace. The irony is that he, in fact, posted erroneous information and his rude trampling around died off in ridicule. 

TIM: ROTFLMAO, Zoltan. Seriously, a university professor. Please parents, send your children someplace else. This university professor thinks that the information I posted is "private data of a GovGuam workplace!!" LOL! Zoltan. I'm dying over here. Can hardly type. You really are so funny. Give the guy his own show folks! Now we are supposed to believe that GovGuam is a private workplace. Geez. Doesn't the administration at UOG have systems in place to catch people like you? Ummm, Zoltan. GovGuam is a public deal. And UOG is a PUBLIC institution. And your information is PUBLIC. Here everybody, see for yourself:

http://www.uog.edu/zoltan-szekely

ZOLTAN SZEKELY


ZOLTAN SZEKELY

ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR

College of Natural & Applied Sciences
Warehouse Bldg. B Rm. 10
 671-735-2832
 671-734-4582
 zszekely@uguam.uog.edu

And then you cut your own legs out from underneath your argument because you say that the information I posted was "erroneous." LOL. So then why get your panties all in a knot? ROTFLMAO!!

ZOLTAN: I know that Junglewatch will throw out each and every comment that challenges the owner's agenda. There are only a handful critical comments allowed through in order to make fun of them. 

LOL. LMAO! Just when I thought it couldn't get any better. Don't you get it? I thrive on critical comments. They are the bread and butter of this blog, because you idiots hand them to us every day just like you are doing now. I would have nothing if you and your Diana freaks didn't provide a steady stream of KAKA-drivel. Anyone who has followed this blog for more than a week will see the usual name-calling - calling me satan, poison, evil, etc. I love those. Send me some more. You know why I love them, Zoltan. Because it tells me you don't have anything else. LOL. I win, Zoltan. Every personal insult means I WIN! So bring it on UOG "Professor". 

ZOLTAN: Tim Rohr "unfriended" me at his Facebook page when I characterized his Junglewatch as a source of gossip, hearsay and superstition. The problem of gossip, hearsay and superstition is that publishing them could easily lead to incited emotions, hatred and trash talk. Opening up the door for unbridled speculations is a sure sign that someone enjoys the ugly features of trash talk exhibited only at sorrowfully mismanaged blog sites.

TIM: Oh, Zoltan. You do not disappoint. You certainly do save the best for last. Ummm, I "unfriended" you because you simply don't qualify to be my friend. How's that. I use my Facebook conversations for real friends, not for anal types with a fetish for impugning my character - Ummmm, that would be you. No. Rather, I prefer we bring that conversation out for the whole world to see. And as you well know, I have shared your every constipated comment with the whole world, just like I am with this one. But your calling my stuff "gossip, hearsay, superstition, trash talk!" Really, Zoltan, that's the best. Neither you nor your sycophant Diana have been able to publish a single document to negate mine. Not one. In fact, you and the Dingbat are Exhibit A for "unbridled speculations" and "sorrowfully mismanaged blog sites."

Thanks for the fun, Zoltan. Really. Ya'll come back now! Hear?


Diana,
I'm using my real name, like the last time I posted a query here, which was less than a year ago. Little did I know then that posting on your blog would create such nasty comments, which you had no problem posting. So I'm prepared this time to be persecuted for posting this, that is if you actually allow it to be posted on your blog, but even if you don’t it will be posted on my facebook page.

I'm deeply surprised at your willingness to post a response from someone that claims not only anonymity but also libelous speculation. Was it not just awhile ago that you stated that you choose not to disclose your identity so as to not open yourself to be attacked by Mr. Rohr and Mr. White and thus keeping your family, job, and yourself free of those ‘persecutions'. You even referenced Mr. Rohr's alleged attacks on a professor at UOG named Zoltan (Although their discourse is between them and it is their choice to interact that way).

For you to post this so called slanderous speculation regarding Deacon Steve Martinez' wife and blatantly attacking her position in her job is disgusting, alarming and downright un-Christian. Is this not something that you are avoiding for yourself by remaining anonymous and yet you allowed it to happen to her, why?

I don't recall ever hearing from Mrs. Martinez anything regarding the issues involving the Archbishop, the NCW or the CCOG. I don't recall her making comments or placing herself in a position to be even attacked. I don't recall her posting anything on this blog or anywhere else otherwise to warrant that kind of attack. Tainting the life of a woman, who by the way, has not only been respectful, welcoming, and carries with her much grace, integrity and love for our people, who, by the way, has never treated me ill, just because I walk in the way, which by the way, others have no qualms doing is a reflection of the lack of integrity you have.

I find it interesting that having been instructed by Fr. Pius himself to myself and my community to stay out of the jungle and read your blog, that he would allow this kind of attack on a woman whose done nothing to you or anyone else. Did Fr. Pius not instruct your community like he did mine, to not fight back, carry our cross and accept the persecution. Does Fr. Pius not catechize to us that these so called attacks are a response to the successful Great Missions being conducted around the world as a retaliation from Satan himself? Did he not say that we should not be surprised and be humble? So if that is what Fr. Pius tells our community, what does he say in your community that somehow instills in you and in others that it is okay now for you to allow this woman to be persecuted by allowing that comment to be posted? Is her vocation, as the wife of the Deacon, now a justification to attack her?

I wonder truly, if Pat and Fr. Pius should continue to instruct us to read your blog. And just maybe they should require you to remove the title Neocatechemunal Way (please also correct the spelling, but then again, maybe it’s a sign of how it’s not authentic anyway). And yet, now I wonder if Pat feels just as disgusted as she did when she relayed her response to us about how sick reading junglewatch was for her. If her response is not as disgusted as that, it would concern me, since after all she is my catechist.

Again, I will post this on my Facebook page for my community to read. It will probably cause much consternation and stomach ache on top of the persecution, that I’m sure will be coming forth, if you post this.

Another catechesis: Are we not supposed to no longer allow the fear of death to master us? For isn’t fearing death exactly the reason why we sin? I guess I just answered my own question as to why you would allow such slanderous comments to be posted. You fear dying (being persecuted) and thus you hide behind this anonymous character and allow sinful acts to occur.

Peace be with you. See you all at the Convivance or at the Announcements. I hope you all have the courage to at least make yourselves known and be real. For Jesus didn't hide, when he stated the truth. His apostles only cowered in a room until He rose again. Has He not risen for us all?

Here's the comment, DonaMila is referring to:




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