Monday, July 6, 2015

THE BRONZE SHOE - AN OPINION OF COUNSEL


After we posted about Archbishop Apuron's direct attempt to get "the donor's representative" to outright lie for him (see The Ultimate Treachery), some commenters began to refer to "the next shoe to drop."

They were right to identify the blatant and sad attempt by a successor to the apostles to get someone to lie for him as "the first shoe."

Up to that point, and regarding the alienation of The Property, we could only infer that an atrocity had been committed.

With the exposition of Apuron's attempt to get "the donor's representative" to lie for him, and the representative's stern refusal to do so, we had, in writing, absolute evidence of Apuron's attempt to cover for his conspiracy to defraud the Catholic faithful of the Archdiocese of Agana.


The second shoe, which came to be called "the bronze shoe" ("Bronze" is the attorney's last name) was referred to as "the second shoe" because, as people rightly suspected, it would provide the final piece of evidence that Apuron clearly meant to give away The Property to the control of the NCW in perpetuity, and that Apuron may also be party to a conspiracy to defraud the faithful of the Archdiocese of Agana of its largest real property asset.

The recently discovered agenda for the meeting of the Archdiocesan Finance Council held on September 7, 2011, has shown us without a doubt that Apuron knew that he was turning over the property to an entity separate from the Archdiocese of Agana and that that entity, RMS, was NOT in his control as he later claimed.

Ever since the discovery in January of the deed giving full control of The Property to RMS "for perpetual use", Apuron has been scrambling to make it known that the property is still in his control. He has done this several times in the U Matuna. And as we now know, this was the main reason he tried to get the "donor's representative" to lie for him. 

Failing that, he sought out the opinion of a Denver legal firm, published only excerpts from it in the U Matuna, pretended to make it available at the Chancery, and then when someone (Attorney Bronze) actually did go to review it, it was completely withdrawn from public view.

Why all this effort by Apuron to convince us that the property was still in his control? 

Because, as we have mentioned before, SHOULD IT BE PROVED THAT THE PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY ALIENATED, Rome would have clear grounds to take action against Apuron. Here are the relevant portions of the law:

Can 1292 §2. The permission of the Holy See is also required for the valid alienation of goods whose value exceeds the maximum amount, goods given to the Church by vow, or goods precious for artistic or historical reasons. 
Can. 1296 Whenever ecclesiastical goods have been alienated without the required canonical formalities but the alienation is valid civilly, it is for the competent authority, after having considered everything thoroughly, to decide whether and what type of action, namely, personal or real, is to be instituted by whom and against whom in order to vindicate the rights of the Church.
Initially, Rome was under the impression that Apuron still had control of the property. Thus, if it could be proved that he did not, then Rome, being the "competent authority" in this matter, would be required "to decide whether and what type of action...is to be instituted by whom and against whom in order to vindicate the rights of the Church."

In order to prove this, an opinion of counsel from a licensed Guam attorney was needed. The CCOG contracted Attorney Jacques G. Bronze, a real property specialist, to investigate the matter. Mr. Bronze's opinion does two major things:
  1. Determines that The Property is in fact alienated and that Apuron (the Grantor) has given up all rights to the property.
  2. Determines that Apuron does NOT have control of the property (which you shall see).
Upon receipt of the completed opinion in May, the CCOG forwarded copies to Archbishop Krebs and to Archbishop Hon. 

This "opinion" is not just a personal opinion, it is an "opinion of counsel". This means we can take it to court. I will talk more about civil action in my next post. But for now, the first course of action was to hand Rome the hard evidence that Apuron had 1) given the property away, and 2) does not have control of the property. 

Once this was in hand, Rome had hard evidence that Apuron had violated the canonical norms governing the alienation of property and had specifically violated the norm requiring the approval of the Holy See - which now makes the Holy See, and not just the faithful of Guam, the aggrieved party, clearing the way for the Holy See to take direct action against Apuron.

To be continued



57 comments:

  1. Janet B - MangilaoJuly 6, 2015 at 7:18 AM

    Tony got caught....not with having his hand in the proverbial cookie jar, but for giving away the cookie jar which was not his to gift.
    Tony, while the courts will not be so kind I suggest you go to a real priest and confess so at least you don't burn in hell for all eternity.

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  2. Tim, will the "Bronze" findings be published in a news paper for the entire island to see? I hope it does! I would like to see the idiots that continue to follow aaa scramble to try and defend him on this matter! Thanks Tim for what you and family had to put up with. We hope that Rome will finally act on the findings and that Tony will finally be removed from his position soon!

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    1. Mary Lou Garcia-PeredaJuly 6, 2015 at 11:48 AM

      Anonymous (July 6, 2015 at 7:40 AM), hopefully people from the mainstream media will have been keeping an eye on the goings-on here and will have the initiative to follow up. From the time of the Fr. Paul fiasco in 2013 I was hoping for some "investigative reporting" but realized the media just looked at all this as in-fighting within the Church which made for some interesting soundbites but not much more …

      But THIS Bronze Shoe development could open the doors to some SERIOUS reporting IF the Powers That Be in the media recognize the potential of how this could play out.

      Also, as Tim pointed out in the closing paragraph " … Rome had hard evidence that Apuron had violated the canonical norms … which now makes the Holy See, and not just the faithful of Guam, the aggrieved party, clearing the way for the Holy See to take direct action against Apuron." We will see if Rome will have the inclination to take direct action against AAA or if Kiko's influence in Rome will be enough to get them to sweep this all under the rug.

      Only time will tell.

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  3. Janet B - MangilaoJuly 6, 2015 at 7:42 AM

    Oh how the mighty (in his own mind) has fallen. He once proudly published his full title, Most Reverend Anthony Sabalan (see, I'm not Filipino) Apuron, OFM Cap., DD onto everything. Such pride.

    Sadly, the rotten fruits of kiko have brought poor tony to a very dark place. No more crown. No more mitre. No more fancy title. No more staff. No more resplendent garments.

    I hope you like orange jumpsuits. Your new title will be displayed simply on the back - "DOC", and the front will replace your name with a mere number - 110145-666 . The last part designating your special relationship with kiko.

    I hope you like orange. While there may still be some who will try to kiss your a$$, I warn you to beware.

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    1. Yeah, the reporter for KUAM, while covering the opening of the new medical center, mentioned his title/name as archbishop Anthony Apuron. He knows he's a disgrace to the Sablan families so he's dropped his middle name.

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    2. The DOC prisoners will love the new meat in prison, especially after they hear what Tony did to one of the seminarians. PS, be careful Tomy and don't drop the soap.

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    3. Once he is removed from office he will have no respect and would be best for him to leave Guam.

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    4. John C. Ada Toves "Typhoon"July 7, 2015 at 11:03 AM

      Tony you did drop the soap

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    5. I don't want to see Apuron in prison. I just want a humble apology for the horrible pain he caused and wreckage to lives. Had he have apologized I would never come to this blog. I come to this blog in the hope one day before I die I can read Rome removed him. But had he have apologized I would heal move on.

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  4. as the kids say these days: BOOM

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  5. Apuron's days are numbered. The "opinion of counsel" takes out a major piece of the archdeceivers's defense off the chessboard and advances our cause. Check! Checkmate is inevitable.

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  6. After reading the Umatuna article, i am not surprised to see NCW Cult Chief Presbyter Anthony Apuron continue his web of lies to portray himself as the victim. The laity needs to file a civil law suit to get back all ft the wealth this evil man has stashed away. He is no spiritual leader. Let's take that retirement home in Latte Hieghts and everything else he owns before he gives it away to this NCW Cult Cancer. Yes Janet. Orange is the ideal color with the number ending with 666 to wan others that he sold his soul to the devil in hopes of getting the Red Hat. What a pitiful sight to see this evil man in orange.

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    1. While we're at it, let's take Adrian's, David's, and Larry's land too! I'm pretty sure we'll be surprised that combined its worth something close to Yona...

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    2. Have some mercy- Larry has an autistic child who will need lifelong support.

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    3. I don't care what Larry has he has participated in evil and will have to pay for participating in evil acts.

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  7. AAA let us trace back the chain of events that led to the transfer of Yona. Wasn't this the time frame when you were having problems with your heart. Your "friend" puppet master Kiko and the NJ group were so concerned that you might "kick the bucket" and wanted to insure that they had the Yona Property forever. They therefore used you to transfer this asset to them. Look who is made out to be the "fool"???. What I do not understand is that you are still blindly loyal to these Jerks. Kiko still has his millions, RMS property and his flock. You, after all is expendable and was hoping to complete his coup de etat, until, alas, Tim Rohr exposed the dastardly deeds of Kiko and cohorts. You, my dear Archbishop is the sacrificial Lamb, I have not heard Kiko come to your defense at all. The only descent thing left for you to do is to expose Kiko. Is it all worth it??????????? So Sad

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    1. Well said 9.46am. Foolish sacrificial lamb.

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  8. Tony, next time you visit the blog look to your right to see your idol in all his glory. Kiko at his best falling apart at the seams.

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  9. Was this the time that he was talking to his friend tony?

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  10. Anon 9:46 I'll answer your question for Tony. In spite of not getting his promised "Red Hat" by having lots of ordinations, loss of respect from the laity, under daily siege on Jungle watch, under careful scrutiny from Rome; empty pews at the Cathedral the lists goes on and yet Tony is loyal enough to take one for the "kipper" If I were in his shoes (bronze) I will expose the slimy so and so (Kiko) and at least I will take the cause of my ills down with me. However, reality is that Tony will not make that move. After all of this and you are no longer an Archbishop do you think, Kiko will take your phone call?????????

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  11. Kiko already dumping Apuron making attempt to influence pope Francis to appoint Adrain David bishop. But it came to a rather abrupt end names were removed from terna list after the terna was circulated by chancery office.

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  12. Time To file civil law suit. People v Anthony Apuron.

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    1. Janet B - MangilaoJuly 6, 2015 at 1:34 PM

      Soon the World vs Apuwrong. Poor Tony just can't get a break!
      He'll look great in orange, but let's hope Fr Egivaldo doesn't suck all the juice out of him, and spit him out afterwards.

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    2. well done tim SATAN LOVE YOU.........................}:-<> got all those people hating the bishop. sweet dreams!!

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    3. Correction Coward @3PM; as confirmed by NEO CULT Presbyter Pius, the NEO/NCW Leadership is a product of SATAN. The leaders can't wait to weep the rewards SATAN has for them in their after life. There are 40 virgins waiting for you too.....JOY!!!

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    4. Joseph A. SantosJuly 6, 2015 at 4:09 PM

      Anon 3 PM, Tim had nothing to do with us hating the Bishop. AAA did that on his own. One of the few things he has managed to do during his tenure as Bishop. I'm not sure what it will take for you to open your eyes. The Bishop lied, tried to get others to lie for him. He violates Canon Law and in this case, possibly civil law, yet you still follow him like a blind bat. At least you got part of what Tim has been able to do right and that is "well done Tim". BTW, learn some grammar before you play in the Jungle again. Did you paint the sign for the Barrigada Chapel?

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    5. Anon 3 PM. Unlike AAA, Tim doesn't make this about himself. You know, as follower of AAA, I would like to blame you for his not seeing how much damage he has done to our Church. When he is with you guys, he can't do anything wrong. And that is why he is not changing. Just ask him one question. AAA, you said you are looking for the permission giving the NEO to do the Eucharistic distribution the way they are doing it. It has been 203 days since you said that. Do you still need more time. Probably, 162 days more (to complete 365 days). If he says yes, he needs 162 days, then, there is your answer. There is no permission at all. You don't need that many days if there is really permission out there.

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  13. 3:00 pm: you are so STUPID! If God is for us, who can be against us. You and your NCW leadership will be leaving our beautiful island soon and take AAA and his cronies with you to the pits of hell where you all belong. God is Good!! 😀

    James T.

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  14. Like I said good job tim look at all this hate coming out }:->

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    1. Thank you. You are welcome,

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    2. Joseph A. SantosJuly 6, 2015 at 11:15 PM

      Anon 5:41 PM, Satan loves you too buddy }:-). In fact, I'm assuming you are also anon 3 PM, the hate comes from being lied to by your bishop. The hate come from the theft of our hard earned money, given freely under the guise that it would be used to further the Catholic Faith on Guam and not for ice cream for the pieces of dung at the RMS. Yes the hate is coming out because of people like you who continue to laugh at our efforts to reestablish the Church leadership and teachings as Christ meant it to be and not some deranged Spaniard. Yes, Satan loves you because you are on his side, but we will prevail.

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    3. Ai adai, rudy, defiant and filled with gall, as usual. Beware, we might throw more stones at your glass house.

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    4. Rudy going crazy past two weeks not sure why. Even meeting parishioners the vile pours out his mouth not only attacking Tim Rohr but brother priests also. Certainly a person to be avoided if you see him in Shirley's or Hyatt or breakfast.

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  15. I do NOT want Apuron to resign! Nor do I wish him ill health!! No, I want him REMOVED!!!
    When Rome removes him for cause, the whole world will see what he and his "Way"ward fellow zombies have done wrong. and learn from it. But he and the Neo Way will not become entirely
    useless afterwards. They will always be used to serve as bad examples.

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    1. And down in flames they go into our Chamorro and Church history. A man who could have changed and reversed his destructive ways but remained incalcitrant to the end. An example of the ultimate oxymoron.

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  16. Aside from the RED HAT, could there be another reason why Apuron is doing what he is doing. Is there $$$$ money or kickbacks that was involved with giving the RMS property to the NCW under the control of the Gennarinis?

    What ever his reasons are, like the NCW say, the Lord will take care of things. In the meantime I will leave whatever in the Hands of the Lord.

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    1. Answer: Yes, he stood to profit from his "innocent" acquiescence to the will of his kiko. What's wrong with you people? Can't an Archbishop who represents Jesus Christ not be given a chance to enrich himself by a bit more meellions and meellions at the expense of his Catholic faithful? Geeezzzz...why can you all not be as creative, wily and crafty like your Archbishop. It's a ruthless world, my friends, invent your own scheme!

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    2. Even before NCW Apuron would do anything for money. Give him money and you could get what ever you want. He may have converted now but years ago he liked young men money. Reality sorry.

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    3. He would wine dine use dump seminarians in old days. So when I read he opened a seminary for forty men you can only imagine what went through our minds. God help the church of Guam.

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  17. Tim, et. Al. You amaze me. Thank you for bringing to light what has been kept in the dark. Somehow, my heart hurts for the Carmelites. Apuron stole the money from the Carmelites, bought a hotel that is not fully used with all those rooms, and then gives it all away, without even buying a house for the Carmelites in Tamuning. The Carmelites do not own that house they are living at today. God, where is our decency in this all? Just to protect a Neocatechumenal seminary from possible payouts for sexual abuse survivors who might have litigated? Protect Church money? It is sick! And unfortunately, because of it all now being exposed like this? What a shame on all of us. It is so evil.

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  18. Still waiting for action... Seems like you there will be none Timothy hahaha

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  19. DianaJuly 6, 2015 at 10:44 PM

    Dear Superales, 

    The RM seminary belongs to the Archdiocese of Agana. Jacques Bronze is a real estate attorney who does not specialize in religious institutions and corporation sole. The law firm of Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP in Denver, Colorado, whom the Archbishop hired, is a law firm that specialized in establishing corporations sole in many Catholic dioceses in the U.S. and in civil-religious issues related to corporation soles. Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP also specializes in religious institutions. 

    According to Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP:

    "The authority of the Archbishop over the entity, particularly with respect to the administration of real property, is a fundamental aspect of the canon law relationship between the Archbishop and Redemptoris Mater. The method used by the Archbishop under civil law of conveying beneficial use of the Property to Redemptoris Mater while retaining legal title to the Property within the Archdiocese of Agana is consistent with canon law prescribed structures; is consistent with civil law methods widely used by numerous Catholic dioceses in the United States both historically and currently; and is a necessary civil law structure to reflect and enforce the Archbishop's powers of jurisdiction over Redemptoris Mater under the Code of Canon Law." 

    As you can see, Superales, Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP took into account the CANON LAW of the Catholic Church......something which your "Bronze Shoe" did not because she does not specialize in religious institutions nor in corporation soles.

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  20. R-dee crawl back in your hole

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  21. Thank you for providing the truth and no more cover ups and lies from our current leaders and soon to be former disgraced leaders . We are tired them

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    1. Disgraced Archcbishop. Frankly Catholics are no longer bound to listen to him. No moral authority to teach in the name of the catholic church.

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  22. @ 9:53 PM...You surely aren't AAA. He's shit scared cause he got caught. SO..Fool with the brave invisible name, would you be by AA side when all comes tumbling down or would you crawl back and keep silent. No one that is NEO comes in the jungle and leaves with their name out for everyone to see. Identify yourself if you think or know what Tim found are all lies. The AA is man first not God, he is entitled on making mistakes but apparently thinks he has none. I really am surprise that his conscience doesn't bother him. He was given so many opportunities to do the right thing and hasn't, next thing is for him to get sued. And if he does I bet he'll serve his time off island. Praying for this to finally end.

    Flo B

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  23. Seems more like a blog than facts.

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  24. Anyone's can make theories look like facts, ever watch conspiracy theroy?

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    1. Apparently you don't understand the difference between a theory and an "opinion of counsel." For AAA's sake, I certainly hope he has smarter people on his side.

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    2. Obviously, 1:05 am needs more than the ability to distinguish disparate terminology. He or she requires elementary grammar and better discretion in movie-watching and analysis of fact or fiction.

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  25. The fact of the matter is that the Archbishop of Guam lied. He has been hiding secrets of his own. concealing them. I wish his sexual abuse victims come forward to help the people. When will Catholic Clergy Sexual Abuse survivors of Guam reveal themselves out loud. We need you to say what happened to you. We need you to come forward. Please, for the sake of the people, come forward. I know you exist. I am praying for you. Please please please help the people.

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    1. Thank you 1.09am. When his closet is opened you will find skeletons .

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    2. John C. Ada Toves "Typhoon"July 7, 2015 at 1:38 PM

      Larry, can we talk

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  26. Tim, I just want to make sure you are aware of: PART I
    Vatican City, Jun 3, 2015 / 01:33 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Cardinal Robert Sarah, prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship, revealed in a letter sent to a liturgical conference this week that when he was appointed to his post, Pope Francis indicated a desire to continue the liturgical work done by his predecessor as Bishop of Rome.

    “When the Holy Father, Pope Francis, asked me to accept the ministry of Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments, I asked: ‘Your Holiness, how do you want me to exercise this ministry? What do you want me to do as Prefect of this Congregation?’ The Holy Father's reply was clear. ‘I want you to continue to implement the liturgical reform of the Second Vatican Council,’ he said, ‘and I want you to continue the good work in the liturgy begun by Pope Benedict XVI,'” Cardinal Sarah wrote in a letter to the Sacra Liturgia Conference, which was made public June 2.

    “My friends,” the cardinal wrote, “I want you to help me in this task.”

    The Sacra Liturgia Conference is held annually, and addresses the importance of liturgical formation within the Church. It is a proponent of the new evangelization, and supports liturgical catechesis of the faithful.

    Cardinal Sarah, who was appointed head of the CDW in November 2014, asked that Sacra Liturgia “continue to work towards achieving the liturgical aims of the Second Vatican Council and to work to continue the liturgical renewal promoted by Pope Benedict XVI.”

    He cited in particular the emeritus Pope's apostolic exhortation Sacramentum caritatis, on the Eucharist, and his motu proprio Summorum Pontificum, which made it easier for all priests to celebrate the liturgy as it had been done prior to the reform which followed Vatican II.

    “In ask you to be wise, like the householder in St Matthew's Gospel, who knows when to bring out of his treasure thing both new and old, so that the Sacred Liturgy as it is celebrated and lived today may lose nothing of the estimable riches of the Church's liturgical tradition, whilst always being open to legitimate development.

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  27. “My friends,” the cardinal wrote, “I want you to help me in this task.”

    PART II
    The cardinal had noted earlier in his letter that “we must do everything we can to put the Sacred Liturgy back at the very heart of the relationship between God and man,” calling the liturgy the “privileged and unique form in which we … encounter God at work in our world.”

    Cardinal Sarah stated that the Sacra Liturgia conference, which runs June 1-4, has ample time to consider how to both maintain tradition and be open to legitimate developments, and then suggested “two critical areas in which authentic liturgical renewal in the twenty-first century can be furthered”: by making clear that liturgy is the worship of God, and by promoting “sound liturgical formation.”

    He urged that we “never underestimate” the importance of liturgy as worship of God, adding that “the liturgy is not some social occasion or meeting … where what is important is that we express our identity. No: God comes first.”

    Recalling that the liturgy “is given to us in tradition,” he added that “it is not for us to make up the rites we celebrate or to change them to suit ourselves … beyond the legitimate options permitted.”

    “That is why we must celebrate the Sacred Liturgy faithfully, with that reverence and awe of which I spoke earlier.”

    Turning to the importance of sound liturgical formation, Cardinal Sarah referred to the text of Sacrosanctum Concilium, Vatican II's constitution on the liturgy, and said that “we cannot truly participate in the Sacred Liturgy, we cannot drink deeply from the source of Christian life, if we have not been formed in the spirit and power of the liturgy … I hope and I pray that the different initiatives of Sacra Liturgia can do much to meet this urgent and crucial need.”

    In addition to making four references to the text of Sacrosanctum Concilium, Cardinal Sarah's letter also referred twice to non-papal writings of Benedict XVI, quoting from his Collected Works: The Theology of the Liturgy and The Spirit of the Liturgy.

    The Sacra Liturgia conference was launched in Rome in 2013, and has a different location each year – the 2016 conference will be held in London. The conference includes presentations of academic papers as well as the celebration of both Mass and Vespers, in both the ordinary and extraordinary forms of the Roman rite.

    The 2015 conference includes an opening address by Cardinal Raymond Burke, and presentations on the importance of beauty in the liturgy. Other speakers include Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone, Dr. Lauren Pristas, Dr. Jennifer Donelson, Fr. Alcuin Reid, and Fr. Phillip Anderson, OSB.

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  28. He used to insist on being called His Excellency Most Rev. Anthony Sablan Apuron OFM cap
    Metropolitian Archbishop of Agana Guam.

    He would then sign his name with oversized letters A S A. I mean really large letters. Years later I came to learn these were symbols for his dangerous mega size personality. In his mind he really believes he is somekind of an important social political figure. Like a monarch of Guam. In his mind he was so important he could do whatever he wanted no one would question. Years ago he got away with it but not 2015. This guy is so delusional he is one sick puppy.

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