Thursday, July 30, 2015

TIM, CAN YOU PICK AT THIS?


  1. tim can you pick at this? found this in the neo blog

    DianaJuly 27, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    Dear Joane Santos,

    1. Father Paul was removed due to disobedience. He was told to remove Lastimosa in 2011. Lastimosa was still doing the same duties as he had always been doing, so in 2013, Father Paul was removed. It never had anything to do with the NCW. If the Archbishop really wanted the NCW in the Dededo Parish, he would simply remove Father Paul from the Dededo Parish the day AFTER Patricia Cottman banged her fist on the table.

    2. The finance board was removed because OBVIOUSLY their best interest was not in the Church due to the fact that they wanted to sell the seminary. The fact that they were unable to sell the seminary is irrelevant. A finance council is supposed to be a good advisor looking out for the best interest of the Church. Advocating for the selling of the seminary is NOT in the best interest of the Church.

    As for the rest, I already covered that. 

In 2011, Apuron ordered Fr. Paul to terminate the employment of Mr. Lastimoza. When Fr. Paul was called in two years later he was accused of disobeying an order:

"You disobeyed the direct order given by the Vicar General" are Apuron's exact words in his July 16, 2013 letter to Fr. Paul. 

When Fr. Paul produced the evidence that he had obeyed the "order given by the Vicar General", Apuron changed the charge to "refusing to terminate the de facto employment" of Mr. Lastimoza. (Decree of Removal. August 20, 2013. Prot. No. 013-074)

Apuron changed the charge because he had been proven wrong. In his Appeal to the Decree of Removal, Fr. Paul's canonical advocate criticized Apuron's changing of the charge saying: “the charge against Fr. Gofigan has become an elastic concept."

He went on to call the Archbishop’s actions against Fr. Gofigan “a canonical procedure that has gone awry” and accused Apuron of:

  • mangling canonical procedures, 
  • ignoring provision of the Code, 
  • making a feeble attempt to correct the bungled process, 
  • violating the rights of a pastor, 
  • and ruining his good name.

He concluded by questioning Apuron's real motives - something we continue to do on this blog, writing: 

“The concerns raised by the Archbishop could have been accomplished even without the bungled attempt at removal, therefore one really wonders what is the real purpose behind the move.”

As for Apuron putting in the NCW after Cottman pounded her fist on the table, he certainly could have. But Apuron doesn't call the shots in the Archdiocese. Gennarini and Pius do. And they are much smarter than Apuron. They know they have to sneak in the NCW lest we detect their evil intent. This is why they waited for something they could take Fr. Paul down with - or so they thought.

They didn't count on me reviewing the parole records of Mr. Lastimoza and finding that Apuron himself had permitted the same man to work in the same parish in the same capacity thirteen years earlier.

But then they didn't count on a lot of things, did they.

I'll "pick on" the second thing later. 

17 comments:

  1. John C. Ada Toves TYPHOONJuly 30, 2015 at 8:45 PM

    You cannot be from Our Father. I am not anywhere near done. Adrian, get ready. David, you too. Loose honest cannon here. Try!

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  2. Today at a meeting of priests I was reminded of the horrible and evil administration of Apuron and his minions creating a hell in pacific. This man is evil pure evil operating on Guam today. Evil no other word to describe this man.

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  3. John C. Ada Toves TYPHOONJuly 30, 2015 at 11:51 PM

    Adrian, David, I know this is a holy war. Be careful brothers.

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  4. 1:11PM is that you Tim ????

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  5. Since you were asked to pick on the comment Diana made, can you dig into another topic...


    TOPIC: IS SAN VICENTE SCHOOL, THE ONLY CATHOLIC SCHOOL UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE PASTOR? IF IT IS, WHY?

    IF so, does ADRIAN make all the final decisions for the school? Does he pay the bills and collect unpaid tuitions? Does he act as the go between for NEO families who don't pay tuition?

    Maybe someone from the school finance council or school administration can answer. Maybe Adrian can answer it himself.

    Rumor on the street is that the enrollment dropped drastically because of ADRIAN and the control he has over the school.

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    1. I believe John Taitano answered this question last night at the CCOG meeting in Barrigada. But let me put it this way. Adrian is a disease. Run.

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    2. Thank you. I wasn't at the CCOG meeting in Barrigada so whatever Mr. Taitano said I am not aware off. Thanks anyway.

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    3. I should have explained further. The person to contact about this would be John Taitano. I didn't follow everything he said and to be honest, I didn't care to. Adrian is a disease. The only possible solution to anything he is involved in is to run. But feel free to contact Mr. Taitano for his explanation.

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    4. Been told Barrigada school low numbers financial bad management social deviant behavior taking place.

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  6. It is a holy war John. It is good against evil Apuron.

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  7. Fr. Matthew Blockley.July 31, 2015 at 9:06 AM


    When a catholic bishop has lost his moral ability to lead no person is bound to follow the individual bishop. One must follow ones conscience which is above the authority to an immoral authority of one who holds ecclesial power but abuses it.

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  8. Dear Archbishop Anthony Apuron, today, will it be the day that you'll take control and stop this mess that's happening in our Catholic Church and the division of the faithfuls! Since you've obtained and adopted the neo practices on our island, in our Church you've forgotten to maintain the rest of the faithful who you once upon time you taught us, you guided us, you Shepherded us. What happened now! This news about the problems between the Neo and Traditional is becoming old news. I'm looking forward for the next chapter-new chapter to begin.

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    1. Since today the AAA will take control, why not have the SUPERINTENDENT OF CATHOLIC SCHOOLS TAKE CONTROL OF SAN VICENTE FROM THE HANDS OF ADRIAN. LET IT BE A DIOCESAN SCHOOL INSTEAD OF A PAROCHIAL SCHOOL.

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    2. Word on the street is that the teachers at San Vicente are being told to reapply for their jobs. Could it be they're to be replaced by neo teachers? Hmmmm....

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  9. Janet B - MangilaoAugust 1, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    Maybe the neo teacher who got tossed out of St Thomas Aquinas for sex issues will find a welcome home at San Vicente under Adrian.
    Amazing how if you're neo you can get away with anything. That teacher at St Thomas had no sanctions, but if she were at a public school she would be prosecuted. If she were at DOC she would be prosecuted. AND, if she were not a neo she WOULD be prosecuted.
    Same goes for presbyters like Luis and sex, or Angelo and teaching heresy to deacons "Christ was a sinner". Fr OJ Egivaldo - boys will treat girls like oranges and suck the sweet juice from them. Fr Fabio - "the Saints are marching out of the Church!"

    Tony - your head is so far up your apuron you cannot see the light of truth.
    Rome-will you ever say anything, or do you not care about heresy, and sex abuse, and REAL financial mismanagement?

    The people of Guam are greatly troubled by the deafening silence from Church leaders, (the Chancery AND the Vatican).

    WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE SAY SOMETHING?
    And if it's you, Tony, please make it truthful for a change.

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