LOL. Looks like we are not alone. However, even this article does not expose the real problem. The policy is written by bishops for bishops to protect bishops.
If the perp is the bishop - like ours is - then there is no policy. This is why the laity have had to step in (just as we are) in the recent cases where bishops have ultimately been asked to resign. Also, this so called "charter" is non-binding because a bishops' conference cannot bind individual bishops to comply. It's all a ruse.
So the real message? The laity must be ever vigilant. Wherever possible, take back your children. Do as the bible says "train them up in the way they should go." Do not depend on the "church" to do it for you. Do as the Church itself says: be the "first educators" of your children.
And another message. Since the Mass is the "source and summit" of our faith, we can be sure - as we have seen with the neocat liturgy - that wherever the Mass is "abused," every other sort of abuse will follow.
And now, just for fun, let us once again watch the Archdiocese of Agana's most embarrassing moment - a real example of why you do not want to trust the current local church hierarchy (Apuron and his goons) with your children.
Talking about complacency and more liturgical abuse, I attended the Confirmation mass last night for the parish of Santa Guadalupe, Santa Rita. David was presiding with Krzysztof. Before the closing prayer concluding the mass, the pastor lectured the candidates for over 5 mins threatening them to come to mass, as he knows where they all live, and will come after them. This admonition should be given to the students while the candidates are undergoing catechesis, and not during the mass proper, they also had blessing of the food, before final blessing. All this took place with Canon Lawyer Quitugua, who should know better stood there... but on second thought, Maybe he doesn't really know.
ReplyDeleteWhat is interesting in the video is that Deacon Frank reacts to Udu Valdos fist pump by first looking at him, and then looking away from him. But because the dakon deacon is too far into this deception, he cannot stop the process from going forward. He knows it is wrong, yet he still goes along with it.
ReplyDeleteWhich is worse? A monkey-boy Fr OJ who probably isn't smart enough to really understand the evil he is involved with, or the dakon deacon who knows perfectly well and allows it to fester?
A quote from the website: “A significant number of allegations continue to involve international priests. Dioceses should take note of this and ensure they are utilizing the appropriate methods for evaluating their backgrounds,” the report said.
ReplyDeleteThe article makes me wonder whether the men being admitted into the RMS have had a proper background check with Homeland Security, or does HS rely heavily on the NCW's stamp of approval.
I heard that Pedro the last ordained presbyter can't come back because of problems with his papers.
ReplyDeleteNot the first time problems with papers came up. Ordain someone, then they are stuck somewhere else. More inadequacy.
DeleteAi, Lai, Deacon Frank – na ninapiniti bidamo! Todos hit ha tumongo na gof addit î debosionmo gi as Apuron, lao ti hongiyon na todo este china na un attotga sumaonao gi dinagi. (Wow, Deacon Frank; how sad what you did! We all know how fiercely devoted you are to Apuron, but it is unbelievable that you would join in on this lie!) It is bad enough for you to try to protect Apuron back in 2006 when you suggested “technical problems” as the reason for not re-playing the KOLG radio program, when you knew darn well it was not “technical problems” that prevented the re-play, but to protect Apuron’s butt!
ReplyDeleteFrank, do you really treasure your loyalty to Apuron that much more over protecting your own integrity? What made you absolutely sure that Apuron was innocent? Wasn’t it Edivaldo’s statement that Apuron is 100% innocent? It certainly wasn’t because you KNEW Apuron was innocent; you had no way of knowing! Does being in Agat at that period of time sufficient proof for you to say that he is innocent! Were you aware of every crime that was committed in Agat, simply because you happened to be in the parish at the time? Ai, Anki, na linache na rason un usa! (What a faulty explanation you offered for knowing!).
It was clear from your facial expression and from the words you read that that was not the message your heart was compelling you to say. You were being used, Frank! And the saddest part of it was that you knew you were being used, and you allowed yourself to be used. Did you gain anything out of your testimony, Frank? Did you honestly think people believed you? Did you think that your pleading on behalf of Apuron tended to exonerate him? On the other hand, I think you made yourself a laughing stock.
Ai, adai, Deacon Kiko! I have known you for a long time, and I know that you always pronounced (Kin-ta-ni-ya; not Quin-ta-nil-lya). And you say you were not coached! Ai, adai, Frankie, na nina-maase!
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ReplyDeleteFirst I want to apologize for commenting on this issue with some delay.
I have been a little distracted by some new development in my personal life, which should bring new and welcome changes, and I hope more support for our struggle on Guam.
While I resided in Minnesota in the late 90s and early 2000s, I found myself tangled in the breaking scandal of the continued coverup of priestly sexual abuse, by the Minneapolis-St Paul Archdiocese, which finally saw some closure recently.
At first, as a parishioner of an affluent parish in downtown Minneapolis, which was led by a charismatic and well loved,if somewhat controversial priest, I quickly learned about politics in a predominantly democratic stronghold, run by a majority of Lutherans.
It was neither welcoming nor unconfortable, but quite brutal in the very passive/agressive way of the "Minnesota nice" sometimes retitled "Minnesota ice".
Since I had a prominent job downtown, I got to meet many of the power brokers, and the who's who of Minnesota business, politics, sports and media in that State. This is how I quickly learned the complicated relations within the power brokers of the State of 10000 lakes.
As a Catholic in a sea of Lutherans, I was drawn to some of the few Catholics lay leaders in the State. This led to several encounters with the former Dominican priest and pioneer of research of priestly sexual abuse in the US Catholic Church: Mr Thomas P Doyle, based in Collegeville and St John University near St Cloud.
For our readers on Guam, I will introduce Thomas P Doyle.
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ReplyDeleteThomas Patrick Doyle, as his name indicates comes from an Irish Catholic family, and was friend with another larger than life Catholic Priest in Minnesota, Fr. Ryan O'Rourke, a native St Paul Irish Catholic as well.
I had befriended Fr O'Rourke thanks to a common friend here on Guam.
Thomas Patrick Doyle was a Dominican priest with a Doctorate in Canon law and five separate Master's degrees.
Reverend Thomas P Doyle sacrificed a rising career as a Vatican diplomat to become an outspoken advocate for Church abuse victims.
Since 1984 when he became involved in with the issue of children sexual abuse by Catholic clergy, he has become an expert in the canonical and pastoral dimension of this problem. He has worked and continue to work directly with victims, their families, accused priests, bishops, and other high ranking church officials.
Dr. Doyle has interviewed over 2000 victims of clerical sexual abuse in the United States alone, and has been the only priest to testify in court in over 200 cases as to the liability of the Church.
He has developed policies and procedures for dealing with cases of sexual abuse by the clergy for dioceses and religious orders in the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
As an expert in this area, he has delivered lectures and seminars for clergy and lay groups throughout the US.
In 1989 he appeared as an expert witness before the legislature of the State of Pennsylvania concerning the State's child protective legislation.
As an Air Force Major stationed in Germany, who also served recently as a Military Chaplain in Iraq, he holds sixteen decorations and military awards for distinguished service.
He currently serves a a consultant/Court expert in clerical abuse cases throughout the US,Canada, Ireland, Israel and the United Kingdom.
Doyle is the author of several books including: Meeting the Problem of Sexual Abuse among the Clergy in a Responsible Way, Co-authored with Dr Michal Peterson MD, and Fr Ray Mouton (St Luke institute 1985)
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ReplyDeleteTHE MYTH OF FALSE CLAIMS AND ACCUSATIONS OF CLERGY SEXUAL ABUSE.
Thomas P. Doyle, J.C.D, C.A.D.C.
March 2007, revised July 2008
1) The John Jay College study reported that between 1950 and 2004, there were 10,667 documented accusations and reports of sexual abuse
by Catholic Clerics in the United States. There are been no similar studies done in other countries presently reporting widespread Clergy sexual abuse such as the U.K, Ireland, Canada, New Zealand and Australia. It is widely believed that since it is accepted that only 30 to 35% of those sexually abused report their abuse, that the actual number of Clergy abuser is much higher.
2) The Catholic Church authorities have regularly claimed that there are a significant number of false claims and false accusations. These assertions are often used by the Bishops and the Catholic conferences in their strategies to defeat any attempt at legislative
reforms.
3)No Catholic diocese nor any other source asserting that there have been significant numbers of false claims has provided any documentary evidence. In fact no one who has said that there are a great number of false claims has ever produced any anecdotal or unofficial evidence.
4) Some have claimed that the legislative "window" which was opened in California resulted in a flood of false claims. In fact there were about 1200 new civil suits alleging sexual abuse as a result of the window. Of that number 800-850 were claims against a Roman Catholic Diocese or a Religious Order. The attorneys who represented the claimants reported that there were only 3 claims that were false.
These were instances when the person alleging abuse was actually making a false report.
5) There have been thousands of civil suits in the United States alone since 1985. The majority of these have been filed since 2002.
Most of these end in settlement arrived at either through mediation or through decisions reached by the parties and their lawyers.
A significant number of cases have been dismissed by the courts.
None have been dismissed as a false claim. All have been dismissed because of the Statute of Limitations. This means that the plaintiff did not file the claim within the prescribed time limits as set by the State Statutes.
6) Most (probably all) attorneys who have represented persons claiming sexual abuse by a clergy or religious put the prospective client through a thorough screening interview. There are instances where attorneys have decided not to represent clients. In the majority of cases that I am aware of the reason was that the attorney determined that the case was barred by the Statute or would be difficult or impossible to prove for other reasons.
7) There is a fundamental difference between an intentional false claim and a mistaken claim. A false claim is essentially a lie. A mistaken claim is a belief by a person that he or she had been sexually abused when in fact that action upon which this claim was based only on fantasy or totally subjective perception.
For example a person I knew of, believed a priest had sexually abused her when it turn out she had imagined the abuse solely because he had looked at her. There have been other cases when an accidental touch was exaggerated by a person when in fact it was no more than a touch with no sexual overtones or intent. In nearly all the instances of this nature, the claimant has been found to have some degree of mental or emotional instability.
8) There have been many instances when the accused cleric has denied the allegation or downgraded the report to a misunderstanding. In nearly all such cases when a proper investigation is carried out it has been determined that the report of sexual abuse was accurate.
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ReplyDelete9) CONCLUSION:
A) There have been thousands of reports of sexual abuse by clergy in the United States. These reports span a period of more than fifty years. Although Bishops often claim that there have been very few cases in their dioceses, when diocesan files are disclosed through the discovery process the documentary evidence has revealed that in fact, there have been reports of sexual abuse for decades.
B) There is documentary evidence of the 10,667 reports mentioned in the John Jay Study. Since the study was published, hundreds of additional cases have been revealed from the same time period.
C) There is documentary evidence available of 20 cases of false or mistaken claims for the same time period. There is evidence of three false claims out of 800-850 claims from California.
The reason I took the time to highlight Dr Doyle findings in these cases, is that we were inundated by similar and preposterous claims by Diana, and of course the stupid testimony of deacon Tenorio,when Roy came forward.
ReplyDeleteIt is important that we, as part of the laity are armed with conclusive and verified facts to support the victims that have come out and those who will not fail to do so. Also some of our local politicians have taken important steps to lift the Statute of limitation, as such they can use these findings to shore up more support.
We know the Neos and their supporters will come out with unsubstantiated assertions as they always do. It is our duty to be strong and correct in our answers and in our verification.
Dr Doyle is considered as the foremost specialist of that horrendous situation, many books and essays are available to help us understand and put our mind around this complicated and painful subject.
St Michael defend us in battle....
THE MYTH OF FALSE CLAIMS AND ACCUSATIONS OF CLERGY SEXUAL ABUSE
ReplyDeleteThomas P Doyle, J.C.D, C.A.D.C.
March 2007, revised July 2008
1) The John Jay College Study reported that between 1950 and 2004 there were 10,667 documented accusations and reports made of sexual abuse by Catholic clerics in the United States. There has been no similar studies done in other countries presently reporting widespread clergy abuse such as Ireland, the U.K, Canada, New Zealand and Australia.It is widely believed that since it is accepted
that only 30-35% of those sexually abused ever report their abuse that the actual number of clergy abusers is much higher.
2)The Catholic authorities have regularly claimed that there are a significant number of false claims and false accusations.This assertion is often used by the bishops and state Catholic conferences in their strategies to defeat any attempts at legislative reforms.
3)No Catholic diocese, nor any other source asserting that there have been significant numbers of false claims has provided any documentary evidence. In fact no one who has said that there are a great number of false claims has ever produced any anecdotal or unofficial evidence.
4)Some have claimed that the legislative "window" which was opened in California resulted in a flood of false claims. In fact there were about 1200 new civil suits alleging sexual abuse as a result to the window. Of that number about 800-850 were claims against a roman Catholic diocese or religious order. The attorneys who represented the claimants reported that there were only 3 claims that were false.
These were instances where the person alleging abuse was actually making a false report
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ReplyDelete5) There have been thousands of civil suits in the United States alone since 1985. The majority of these have been filled since 2002.
Most of these end in settlements arrived at either in mediation or through decisions reached by the parties and their lawyers.
A significant numbers of cases have been dismissed by the courts.
None have been dismissed as a false claim. All have been dismissed because of the Statute of Limitations. This means that the plaintiff did not file the claim within the prescribe time limits as set by the State statute.
6) Most (probably all) attorneys who have represented persons claiming sexual abuse by a clergy or religious put the prospective client through a thorough screening interview. There are instances when attorneys have decided to not represent clients. In the majority of cases that I am aware of the reason was that the attorney determined that the case was barred by the Statute or would be difficult or impossible to prove for other reasons.
7) There is a fundamental difference between an intentional false claim and a mistaken claim. A false claim is essentially a lie.
A mistaken claim is a belief by a person that he or she had been sexually abused when in fact that action upon which this claim was based turned out not to be a sexual gesture in any form. There have been cases when people believed they had been sexually abused when in fact the belief was based only on a fantasy or totally subjective perception. For example one person I knew of believed a priest had sexually abused her when it turned out she had imagined the abuse solely because he had looked at her. There have been other cases when an accidental touch was exaggerated by a person when in fact it was no more than a touch with no sexual overtones or intent. In nearly all instances of this nature the claimant has been found to have a degree of mental or emotional instability.
8)There have been many instances when the accused cleric has denied the allegations or downgraded the report to a misunderstanding. In nearly all such cases when a proper investigation is carried out it has been determined that the report of sexual abuse was accurate.