Monday, March 23, 2015

NOTICE: TO DEACON LARRY CLAROS, SARC, ARCHDIOCESE OF AGANA

Deacon Larry Claros
Archdiocese of Agana
Sexual Abuse Response Coordinator

March 23, 2015

RE: YOUR JOB

The Archdiocese of Agana Policy of Sexual Misconduct requires the Sexual Abuse Response Coordinator (you) "to coordinate the Archdiocese's response to allegations of sexual misconduct."

On March 18, pursuant to Section IV. A. 1. of that policy, Deacon Steve Martinez, filed a formal report of suspected sexual misconduct involving Fr. Luis Camacho. The report was filed with Archbishop Apuron and Child Protective Services (see below).

Pursuant to Section A. 2. b. of the same policy Archbishop Apuron was required to "promptly" notify you.

However, on the same day, and as reported in the Marianas Variety the next morning, you said that you "would not be involved in the incident" (i.e. the investigation of the incident).


You reaffirmed this position the following day as reported in the same publication when you said "A statement has been made and the statement stands".

Your statement on March 19 that you would not be involved with "the incident", and your reaffirmation of that statement the following day, is a confirmation that the "incident" did NOT involve "suspected sexual misconduct".

Yet, the Archdiocese of Agana was in receipt of a formal report of sexual misconduct from Deacon Martinez, who, pursuant to Section IV. A. 1. is a mandated reporter for the Archdiocese of Agana.

He did his job. What about you?


(The names of the girl and her parents have been redacted). 







134 comments:

  1. Thankyou Deacon Steve! Now Deacon Larry do YOUR job! Such shame to our Church here on guam! Archbishop and All your cronies....may our Lord show you mercy for all these KUCHI-NADAS that you allowed to take place!

    ReplyDelete
  2. I applaud you Deacon Steave for your courage as a concerned person, and responsibility as a member of the Clergy to file this formal report that will hopefully bring attention to the requirements of AAA and the Chancery that they have a responsibility to protect the innocent from sexual preditors. It is very obvious that AAA is not placing a high priority on the protection of children and the actions of Deacon Larry not to investigate this incident are clearly a cover up taking place. All this non sense has to stop, Perhaps SNAP should be contacted and advised of this potential abuse that is not being investigated properly.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. "AAA not placing a high priority on the protection of children.." could not be farthest from the truth. AAA acted with decisiveness with the case of Fr. Paul. He promised Fr. Paul immediately an arduous and painful... You are right, this nonsense has to stop.

      Delete
    2. Get that Edivaldo OFF of that ridiculous list of advisors. NO JOKE. Making us all look like fools.

      Delete
    3. Edivaldo OFF...now after PNC headliners about that jerk...get him OUT of Guam.

      Delete
  3. Janet B - MangilaoMarch 23, 2015 at 5:31 PM

    OK. So Tony, inquiring minds want to know...
    a.) what type of investigation has been done so far, nearly one week after the "incident"?
    b.) why is the SARC, Deacon Larry, not involved if the allegation is clearly sex abuse?
    c.) is it true that Fr Luis is off-island, and a potential threat to other children in other parts of the world?
    d.) the count up clock is almost at 6 days...when will your crack dream team of investigators conclude their "un-canonical investigation" without proper training or SARC coordination?

    There are certainly many other questions, so maybe a full disclosure will save us the trouble of having to ask more embarrassing questions.

    The world waits your response.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Dream Team? The Archbishop was busy ministering to the Christian Mothers today. We are told by the Pope to MOVE ON. You can just keep it up, whip it up, whoop it up. We are moving on, OBEYING what the Pope told us to do. MOVE ON! An administrator has already been appointed to those two parishes. Soon we will have a new SARC and a new Archbishop. MOVE ON! Forward!

      Delete
  4. Hey Tim. St Anthony School wanted to know if that is an authorized photo of Deacon Larry. Must have been taken a while back because he looks too happy in the photo you posted.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Same picture is in the dictionary under the word "idiot".

      Delete

    2. Today he look like an old hag.

      Delete
  5. SARC? I thought he said SHARK!

    ReplyDelete
  6. 1. What are the options of the Apostolic Delegate to Guam for this case?

    2. Will you submit the above letter to the media?

    ReplyDelete
  7. Unbelievable!!! I am disgusted at both the allegations and the pathetic attempt by the Archbishop and his crew of thugs to cover this up! The Archbishop should RESIGN NOW. !

    ReplyDelete
  8. Deacon Larry Claros shame on you!

    ReplyDelete
  9. Mary Lou Garcia-PeredaMarch 23, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    Since the beginning of the Presbyter Luis Camacho Incident, I believed that if Deacon Steve Martinez was still the Archdiocesan SARC, he would have taken the necessary steps to ensure the initiation of the required procedures, based on the Archdiocese Sexual Abuse Policy. This post is proof that I was correct.

    Unfortunately Deacon Steve will probably have his faculties revoked again for doing the right thing.

    God bless you, Deacon Steve Martinez!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. God bless you, Deacon Steve Martinez!

      Delete
  10. What about Child Protective Services?

    What can they do?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. They may choose to do nothing, but they are the ones to be notified. They would be the one to interview the youth. I just went through another round of youth protection training to work with a scout troop sponsored through the parish and they drill in your head if you suspect any abuse of a child call 224-KIDS. In my area the police would not interview the youth, but would turn that over to CPS (are trained to interview youth), although police are involved with other aspects of the investigation.

      Delete
  11. Don't understand why the SARC Deacon Larry Claros would wash his hands off the investigation. Something smells fishy here.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Larry is in the NCW, AAA is his immediate supervisor, and Pius is AAA's Boss. Turkeys of the same feathers, they all hang together. Second reason, by the NCW standards, all this is ok, because God accepts them as they are. No crime comitted, he echoed it already and was forgiven.

      Delete
  12. Thank you, Deacon Steve, for your courage and integrity. Your action is a clear sign that there is indeed hope for the See of Agana and that we will one day see the honesty, integrity, and transparency that which we hunger.

    ReplyDelete
  13. Fr.Matthew BlockleyMarch 23, 2015 at 6:12 PM


    Thank you Deacon Steve Martinez for protecting the rights of Children.

    ReplyDelete
  14. Spot on Deacon Steve!

    ReplyDelete

  15. Need to check subway security cameras to see Fr. Luis visit subway?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes he was there. One of his parishioners saw him there the same day he got arrested.

      Delete
    2. GPD make sure you pull the CCTV footage

      Delete
    3. Subway? No onions, I hope.

      Delete
  16. there's a novel idea...let's have SNAP investigate this whole incident (if they're not already). BTW, great job, Deacon Steve!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Wonderful thing about snap is you never know when they sit at the table with you. Most unlikely people are snap supporters. 2010 many on Guam disliked snap. 2015 winds have changed. a growing number support snap. For all we know snap may be following already.

      Delete
    2. SNAP has already commented on KUAM's story on this subject. So yes they are watching and expect more from them soon.

      Delete
  17. Read it! Carefully.

    ReplyDelete
  18. Thank you Deacon Martinez for filing this report, and for sending a copy to the Apostolic Delegate to Guam.

    ReplyDelete
  19. Deacon Claros - Protect our children!!! At least show your children, grandchildren, nieces, etc. that you will protect them from sexual predators. They will not forget. Your refusal to do your job as a SARC constitute your support for these sick minds.

    To the spouse of Deacon Claros (If any) - As a mother, grandmother, parent, etc., put some sense into this man. Failure to talk to him about protecting our kids constitutes your support for these sick minds too.

    Doing your job as a SARC does not mean Fr. Luis is guilty. Forget the NEO vs Traditional Catholic battle. This is about protecting our people! Just do your job!

    ReplyDelete
  20. Little Larry. Disappointing.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Larry will be shit after the fall hated on Guam.

      Delete

    2. Face of Satan.

      Delete
  21. Claros...quit playing pocket pool behind your desk and stop being a pansy to Apuron's desires. Start doing your job as the SARC.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. LOL. You kidding right? He himself makes sexual comments. Maybe it's better he does it behind his desk.

      Delete
  22. Thanks Deacon Steve, for your courage. How many more predators roam the RMS halls?
    Apparently the Archbishop is too far gone. Need a new Archbishop and soon. Will the parents sue or are they consenting to the act? Also, thanks Tim for being our lighthouse through all this. Now we need Rome to sail in and save us.

    ReplyDelete
  23. "It is my belief, based on information that has been brought to my attention, that sexual abuse has occurred."

    If victim, or parents,or Camacho personally gave Martinez the information... then I will believe!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hey 8:39, Patty Arroyo reported on her show that she was privy to written statements that are similar to what deacon captured in his letter.

      Why did Fr. Louis resign? Why go to Saipan? Why hasn't he or the Archdiocese said anything about his innocence with regards to the sexual activities? I'll leave it at.

      Delete
    2. are you serious?! if this were your daughter, niece, sister, what would you do? do you really think deacon Steve has reason to make this up or report something of this magnitude to the authorities based on someone's lies?

      open your eyes and wake up!! Luis did not resign because he was doing good things. and if all of this was false, he would be fighting it tooth and nail to save his reputation! ANYONE WOULD!!!

      kudos deacon Steve, and thank you for protecting our children!

      Delete
    3. Any number of people know the truth. Thanks, Steve, for taking your responsibility seriously. Any priests want to step up? HUH?

      Delete
  24. Martinez submitted this copy of letter to Tim Rohr, aka Junglewatch. How low can you get Steve...

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. As low as the height of the children that need to be protected. Great job, Deacon Steve! Thank you for your vigilance.

      Delete
    2. 8:42, you are missing the point.

      Delete
    3. Anon at 8:42 PM, YOU'RE PATHETIC!! Deacon Steve did what is right. Before you accuse him of being low look at the damage your Tony and his Neo masters have done to Guam's Catholics. You are like a criminal who is upset because someone snitched. You and your ilk are lower than whale turd.

      Delete
    4. @ 8:42 pm : and???? you would rather have it brushed under a rug? or quietly hidden in hopes that everyone forgets as time passes?

      Delete
    5. If anyone has gone low, that would be Luis.

      Delete
    6. Ha! When being made to jump over hurdles gets you nowhere, the only choice left is to duck under the bar. Too bad Apuron set it way down low.

      But where the copy of this letter came from is beside the point. Why the hell isn't Larry doing anything about it? He was lightning quick to excuse any participation of the SARC. Clearly this whole incident was ordered to be quashed from the get go. The statements in the press release were manufactured to give the impression of due diligence in some sort of failed attempt to render the incident non-newsworthy. Strategy failed now the chancery has to play deaf, dumb and blind to avoid contradicting itself and getting caught red handed in another public lie.

      The hole Apuron has dug for himself is so deep, you'd think he was actually trying to find the proverbial gateway to hell.

      Delete
    7. Read the letter, you idiot! It was addressed to the Archbishop of Agana and Child Protective Services, not to Tim Rohr! Tim Rohr just did his due diligence of exposing this ignorant claros reneging on his designated role as SARC. This was after he gave luis camacho a chance to tell his side of the story, a chance to tell the truth...yet the little boy runs over to Saipan. Claros' ignorance allowed the victim to be violated twice - the presbyter predator and the inaction of the SARC! Vent your anger where it is due, moron!

      Delete
    8. You are gravely mistaken. Really. But please, continue to blame everyone else for this debacle except for the one person ultimately responsible. Hint: It's not Fr Luis.

      Delete
    9. LOL. Reminds me of when I exposed the letter of Cardinal Tagle and the Kiko's went ballistic over how I got the letter instead of how Apuron had lied to hundreds of people about their being invited to Manila. LOL. ya'll are just gonna have to wait for the movie to come out before you are ever gonna find out my real source. LOL. ITS ABOUT AS CLOSE TO APURON AS YOU CAN GET. :)

      Delete
    10. 8:42, I guess it is okay for you to send your kids with these predators but not our kids of Guam buddy! Ship your kids to some third world country and join them.

      Delete
    11. Were you born an idiot or did you learn it walking the wrong "way"? I read the letter and it said "Dear Archbishop ... and CPS". Where was Tim's name in this? You just hate Tim so much you see his name in everything! Can of Spam, Tim. Can of corned beef, Tim. I'll bet when you close your eyes, Tim Rhor is engraved on your eyelids. Now do us a favor, crawl back under the rock that you came from and when you have something intelligent to say, keep it to yourself. Finally, practice inhaling once in awhile. Oxygen will do wonders for your brain. Oh never mind, you just proved you don't have one.

      Delete
  25. Hmmm. How did Deacon Steve obtain such graphic details of what transpired?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Doesn't really matter does it. He is duty bound to report. Larry's job is to investigate and determine if the allegations are credible. Luis' arrest and the circumstances theretofore corroborated the allegations. So at the very least, Apuron has a duty to order a full investigation. He has no reason not to unless of course he was already fully aware of Luis' proclivities and an investigation would reveal this foreknowledge. Hence the swift acceptance of Luis' resignation and exile to his homeland - outside of the reach of prying eyes lest he inadvertently implicate Apuron.

      And there is no canonical investigation. One doesn't dismiss a perpetrator during the course of investigating. The only investigation going on is Apuron's henchmen trying to figure out who spilled the beans to GPD.

      Their next move will be to go after Deacon Martinez for filing this report. They never counted on him refusing to join their secret society and he knows too much to let him run around throwing monkey wrenches in their grand plan. Wait for it.

      Delete
  26. I just learned that KUAM News reported on this incident (see www.kuam.com) with the heading "Priest allegedly had sexual contact with minor." I hope that tomorrow morning when I buy my papers that both PDN and Marianas Variety will also have a similar report. Also, I hope that the other Radio/TV stations will follow suit.

    Why do I hope so? Because Rome will not pay much attention to our problems unless scandals about the clergy are PUBLICIZED! And we really cannot blame them. For Rome, our problems are miniscule compared to the major problems that the Vatican is facing right now.

    They will eventually pay attention to us but we can get their attention faster if media coverage is involved. (On that point, let us join Teri on Wednesday, March 25 @4:30 p.m. for the prayer rally. If we can get a big enough crowd, the media might also publicize that event.
    And maybe we can eventually have a protest procession, again with media coverage as
    one of the goals.)

    ReplyDelete
  27. While it was indeed an unfortunate choice of words, Deacon Larry, in his role as the SARC, has no authority whatsoever to initiate an investigation. That decision lies solely on the shoulders of the Archbishop. Apparently, and through the words of Deacon Larry, the Archbishop is unwilling to call for one.
    However, Deacon Larry does not need the Archbishop's or anyone else's permission to report a need for and request for an investigation per the Archdiocese policy on sexual misconduct. Thankfully, Deacon Steve, the former SARC, recognized this as necessary. Not only was he compelled, it is an obligation as clergy to file a report when approached with credible information.
    Of all the clergy involved and in the know of this scandal, seemingly only one has the courage and the humanity to speak truth to power and acknowledge the violation. All without a kangaroo investigative council. Go figure.

    But, as Tim has reminded us all through our island's ordeal, no matter how many facts are presented, no matter how many charges are levied, no matter how the liturgy is profaned, it all comes down to this: it's the Archbishop, it's the Archbishop, it's the Archbishop.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. He did boast that he's "Untouchable" and it's looking like he may be right. Picture him dancing around the flower-laden table Saturday nights to MC Hammer's hit "U Can't Touch This". Disgusting!

      Delete
    2. The SARC makes an independent report and an investigation without interference from other authority such as the archbishop. This policy precludes a tainted report and investigation in case the leadership is deemed biased. In the military the SARC is not beholden to the commander nor does he take his cue from the commander. A designated SARC immediately and without delay puts everyone on notice that this is grave matter. In this case, claros seems unclear about his role, and has reneged on his responsibility. If there is a case of victimization, he has allowed the victim to be violated twice - one, from the predator and, two, from his inaction and ignorance.

      Delete
    3. In military protocol, the SARC initiates investigation and report independent of the commander, especially when there is danger of tainted cover up. This autonomy of SARC responsibility ensures that focus is on the welfare of the victim rather than the intent of the commander. Claros is clearly ignorant of his important role in case of alleged child abuse. He should be right up with the investigators, CPS, GPD and other agencies to ensure accurate and proper justice. His washing of his hands and tweedling of thumbs while allowing others to do his job is gross mismanagement that stems from his leadership.

      Delete
    4. The Archdiocese policy: Sexual Abuse Response Coordinator (SARC) means a priest/deacon/person appointed by the Archbishop to coordinate the Archbishop's response to allegations of sexual misconduct.

      In other words, Deacon Larry cannot initiate an investigation as a SARC as defined in the Archdiocese policy.

      In fact, in section IV Response to Allegations of Sexual Misconduct Part A. Reporting the policy outlines the procedure with the Archbishop as the initiator, not the SARC. If the Archbishop does choose to continue the process, he then activates the SARC.

      So, again, Archbishop.

      Delete
    5. I think I am finally beginning to see with Archbishop Apuron claims to be untouchable. I have to say I never thought much about the governing system in the Church, but a bishop really is untouchable, except for papal intervention. The cards are truly stacked in a bishop's favor in so many ways. One Pope has to try and keep track of over 5000 bishops, as well as all his other responsibilities. A daunting task.

      Delete
    6. Thus the famous quote about the "floor of hell..."

      Delete
    7. "They can't get me" UNLESS it is something personal....that's the rest of the quotation, folks.

      Delete
  28. As Deacon Steve came into the information, his reporting of the incident tells me that the knowledge is firsthand. Even in the workplace, if I came into knowledge or was told of an incident involving harassment, sexual or whatnot., I have a duty to report the incident through some escalation method. Bravo to Deacon Steve for not turning a blind eye.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. At the same time, we should also keep in mind that there are those who know the details, which most likely includes clergy, but have decided not to report what was presented to them.
      (And if there were other reports filed, what or who prevented or is preventing the Archbishop from convening the Sexual Abuse Review Board?)

      Delete
  29. LOOKs like we need SNAP again! AAA just never learns and his ship has finally sunk! We will not stand for this and we will see you on the Steps of the Cathedral

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. SNAP can not do much. They can help families or family members if they come forward, but if they don't, their hands are tied as in the past. They depend on cooperation from the parties involved and if everyone clams up it, not much they can do except perhaps be a thorn in the Archbishop's side. Children Protection Services is somewhat the same way. If the youth and family refuse to talk or deny, they cannot due much. Unfortunately, have seen it before, the youth denied and nothing was done. Now as a young adult , she is a serious mess.

      Delete
  30. Deacon Disappointing Larry, you need to get the heck out of the kitchen! You can't cook, serve or wash the dirty laundry. Too late my friend the Neo's are out of here. 2 week notice has been given.

    ReplyDelete
  31. Thank you again Deacon Steve for being aan of God and bringing Justice to his people.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes, thank you Deacon Steve for your honesty and integrity and being a great example of what the Catholic clergy should be. We miss you and your wife at the cathedral.

      Delete

  32. Apuron may well have won this side of the grave. but one day he will answer to God for his sins against priests.

    ReplyDelete

  33. Looks credible information concerning Luis. Luis may be free in this case.

    What happens if he repeats this with another teenager. Deacom Steve is right . Seems Luis is not safe to be near young girls.

    ReplyDelete
  34. Guam social services need to evaluate this to ensure Guam's teenagers are safe.

    ReplyDelete
  35. Ya'll are being way too hard on Larry. He's doing exactly what he was hired to do: protect Apuron. BTW Larry, here's a clue for the next crisis. Two words: Agat and Washington...as in state. Check w the boss.

    ReplyDelete
  36. Let's not forget, Larry was out there publicly touting and singing praises of the museum before Apuron abruptly killed the project. Since then, he's been deafeningly silent. It was either entirely lip service or he's surrendered his free will to Apuron and become a die hard company man. At this point he's just begging to be Apuron's scapegoat. Larry, your blind allegiance is going to be your undoing.

    ReplyDelete
  37. lots of gratitude for the courageous move by deacon steve.

    i'm still hoping that deacon larry will do the right thing. those policies are in place for one reason: justice. deacon larry: do you serve justice by protecting the neocat group at the expense of protecting the innocent? you are--or were--a cursillista! what good is it to gain kiko's acceptance but to lose your soul in the process? wake up and do what's right!

    tim: the state of washington? that's a little close and makes me nervous.

    ReplyDelete
  38. Deacon Steve, here's a man with integrity. Like I said awhile ago, Deacon Claros has lost all respect from most Catholics. He is covering for his bosses - neos.
    Pedro Santos

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. From Diana follower: AnonymousMarch 23, 2015 at 10:18 PM
      Hey Diana I think I know who reported fr.luis in because he is publishing a report with CPs he should have been released from the deaconship on the day he was given time to think if he wants to be a deacon or be part of the group that wants to be geting rid of the archbishop
      THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH...ALL ABOUT PROTECTING ARCH-A-BISHOP.

      Delete
    2. Mary Lou Garcia-PeredaMarch 25, 2015 at 11:56 AM

      Anonymous (March 24, 2015 at 8:20 AM), I admit that your Cut-and-Paste comment from "The Dianas'" blog piqued my curiosity so I went there to see what was being discussed.

      UGH — clearly nothing has changed over there. It's still the same old rigmarole, this time accusing both Deacon Steve Martinez and Tim Rohr of "INTERFERING" with the police investigation and the investigation of the Church. "The Dianas" also assert that it's "illegal" for Tim to have a copy of Deacon Steve's letter that was, per "The Dianas," filed with the SARC. Numerous comments try to correct those nonsense assertions but "The Dianas" continue with their circular responses.

      Some things never change …

      Delete
  39. What is incredible is how many scandals out Archbishop is able to create. More incredible is how many scandals Rome is willing to tolerate!!!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. @7:16 how true! For sure, for sure.

      Delete
  40. I am so disgusted by all of this - the allegations, the cover up, the non-stop scandals of this Archbishop and his NEO crew. When will this all end? When will we have peace again in our Archdiocese? Enough is enough.

    ReplyDelete
  41. Time to do more than reflect frustrations on Junglewatch. One idea is to host a gathering like December 8, Our Lady of Camalin. We should invite all villages to participate at an All Island Rosary Prayer for the purpose of asking our Blessed Mother to help heal our island and for Rome to remove the Archbishop. Any takers?????

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Why wait to gather until December 8 on Our Lady's Feast Day? Why not on Feast Day of Divine Mercy after soon after Easter week? People are in shock yet again. This on going drama is causing spiritual trauma and could be considered a form of abuse. People need healing. Prayer meetings are certainly helpful. But the one sided vengeance to non neo priests versus the virtual silence to neo priest who was arrested is very disturbing and obviously not equal treatment.

      Delete
    2. We are meeting today at 4:30 pm on the steps of the Cathedral, join us in prayer.

      Delete
    3. 6.38am very important point. A number of people are quietly suffering physical sickness, Psychological anxiety, because of Archbishop Apuron and his abuse of the Archdiocese. Unknown on this page priests people are silently suffering because of Archbishop. This is the pure evil of his leadership. He has to answer to God for the suffering he inflicted on others. Some are in bed on medication because they can't stand up all day. Causes related to trauma caused by Archbishop of Guam. So yes there is psychological and spiritual trauma to many priests going on at this time.
      Cause...... Anthony Sablan Apuron.

      Delete

    4. This Archdiocese will never heal or be in unity until Apuron retires.

      Delete
    5. We have a prayer rally set for this afternoon in front of the cathedral, 4:30. Come! We plan to schedule other gatherings. Be there! Time for Catholics to stand together, as we pray and plan for more demonstrations of our resolve to take back OUR CHURCH!! Divine Mercy Sunday sounds like a great idea too!

      Delete
    6. At 6:38. Please see Teri's invitation and bring as many people as you can. This is going to be an ongoing happening. Meanwhile, you do bring up an interesting point: the general abuse of the Church and the Catholics of Guam. I'm not sure that we don't have civil recourse in this matter and I would encourage you to discuss with attorneys about the possibiilty of suing chancery officials for damages. Look into it. Guam could set a precedent that the rest of the Catholic world just might appreciate, given that we are not alone in being abused by bishops gone wild.

      Delete
    7. At 8:11. We'd be fools to believe that getting rid of Apuron would mean getting rid of our problems. He is simply a symptom which put the cancer on sterorids. The Catholic Church was coming apart quite on its own even before Apuron began his pogrom. Sure it would help if we had a real bishop, but long before the NCW began abusing the liturgy and the teachings of the Catholic Church, similar abuses had already been proliferating quite without the help of the NCW. Learn your faith. Take your children back. Demand that Father "says the black" and "does the red." The NCW hasn't done anything that they didn't already see being done. That's why most people who joined it don't see the difference.

      Delete
    8. At 8:10. In reference to your reference to priests on medication because of Apuron. Sorry to sound disrespectfu. But it's time to buck up. Read the Lives of the Saints or something. Bad bishops are almost a fixture in the Catholic Church. In fact, they are probably the biggest reason for the sainthood of so many priests. I don't know what else to tell you except maybe check out the last line of Thomas Merton's Seven Storey Mountain: "That you may become the brother of God and learn to know the Christ of the burnt men.”

      Delete
  42. I too am feeling discouraged by the inaction of Rome to the crises (there are many) in our Diocese. Just like how our Island gets dumped on by the US and our cries for fairness in just compensation and other matters of importance go on the way side, our pleas to Rome seem unheard. Guam seems insignificant -- a lot of that has to do with our ArchB -- he has failed in shepherding and faith formation. This was never more clear when Pope Francis visited the PI and totally skipped our tiny island. Maybe we can enlist the help of Cardinal Tagle to assist in bringing attention to our struggle. We've all read and have seen how fond Santo Papa is of Cardinal Tagle. We need him to intercede and help facilitate mending our broken archdiocese! Monsignor James, ask your pal to call the hotline to Rome stat! He may be our last hope...

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Just a week ago I met a non-neo priest. I actually suggested to him that maybe Cardinal Tagle can help us get the Pope to look into the current turmoil in our church. He responded by saying that Rome has a history of acting when its already too late. Besides, he added, cardinals are weak friends but could be powerful enemies. If you ask me though, we can try enlisting Cardinal Tagle's support.

      Delete
    2. 12.57pm. There is some person who watches Junglewatch posts/comments almost 17 hours each day. This person is constantly forwarding texts, emails, letters to five archbishops including cardinal Tagle. No one knows the source but within less than 30 mins of Tim Rohr speaking information appears on Vatican desks. If Archbishop Apuron passes wind it will be in the Vatican 30 mins later. No one knows how information is passed like a phantom Ghost in Phantom of the opera.
      When Tim Rohr Whispers on the blog the whisper vibrates inside the Vatican, cardinals, Archbishops hear the whispers. when Apuron speaks no one listen, when Tim Rohr speaks earthquakes around the world . Phantom loves the opera, and it ain't over till the fat lady sings....... Fat lady will enter the stage any time, but like shakespeare, there is a time to enter the stage, a time to leave, a time to re enter. Archbishop Krebs may already know when fat lady sings.

      Delete
    3. Big problem is Arch Savio thinks Neo is OK. Rather big problem; I would say.

      Delete
    4. whoever is the person attending to business 17 hours a day gets 7 hours of sleep. That's fine for an adult. Go for it. Thanks.

      Delete
    5. The good news is is that these events are forcing us all to grow up. We have been lulled into a big brother dependency thinking that our problems can be solved from the outside. It sort of parallels the constant appeals to Uncle Sam to give us this and give us that, as if our troubles will go away when they do. We must learn how to do everything as if it all depends on us. That doesn't mean we don't pray. In fact, it means we are forced to pray all the more because we become aware of just how critical to the future our own actions become.

      Delete
  43. Riz, you seem to wear "bula" hats, but apparently can't keep up with the position titles. NOW, Riz, when you are done with this SARC business, can you change the thermometer on the Archdiocesan Appeal and show us the amount collected so far.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Riz? More like a Ritz Cracker that's a crumbling to pieces.

      Delete
    2. A very wise person once said "Your head is not a hat rack..use your brains." Riz, pay attention! So far it is looking like your head is nothing more than a hat rack. You love titles and recognition but you quickly avoid having to do some real work.

      Delete
    3. Yes, sir, Rizal, you love those clerical shirts. Too bad Archbishop won't let you wear the little plastic tab! And lots of other stuff he won't let you or other Deacons do. OUCH

      Delete

  44. Others with first hand information on the case. Error for Archbishop Apuron to remain silent on true facts. Major issue for Agana Archdiocese.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. AAA, your silence has deafened me. Clearly you have forgotten the rest of your flock. Actually you left us a long time ago. When you were asked why Catholics were subjected to confessions before the end of mass, you responded by saying "We'll see what THEY say....THEY? See you at the steps of the cathedral ....

      Delete

    2. Archbishop Apuron left his flock and his priest's the day he began destroying priest's.
      A bishop who destroys priests has no business wearing an episcopal ring.

      Delete
    3. At first it hurt that you seemed to have forgotten the rest of us. Then the more I reflected on how you have dismantled our parish, divided our families, taken our money, our land, our true priests....NOW I AM MAD!

      Delete

  45. Archbishop who allows Wadeson and camacho lose on our island is not protecting children.

    ReplyDelete
  46. I was wondering how the kiko's would respond to this given the documentation, I was hoping to give them the benefit of the doubt. But alas, they have once again shown their twisted ways turning this on deacon Steve...

    ReplyDelete
  47. Father Julius grew a scruffy Kiko Beard. Good luck. Father Julius. Let us know if you need any help down there before you get overwhelmed and do something you might not have done had you enough experience to handle two parishes.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Maybe Father Julius will need a painen hutu for to comb out the lies. Oops so sorry, to comb out the lice.

      Delete

    2. Last Sunday Archbishop Apuron looked sick. Although he has a history of fake sickness to get sympathy of people. Possible he is sick now over the Luis Camacho scandal.

      Delete
  48. When is Pedro to be ordained. Seems like a nice young man. Let him do addtional study and then let us see if new Archbishop wants to Ordain him. MORATORIUM. Masters in Theology for Ordination, PLEASE. The NORM.

    ReplyDelete
  49. leave fr.julius out of the picture..he's dealing with alot of issues with the parish of san dimas.pls lets just pray for peace..he has alot on his plate already thanks to luis n his makakaness. just saying..

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. There is no need to send Julius down there when you have two perfectly capable priests who know how to pastor: Paul and James.

      Delete
    2. That's the whole point about Julius there is NO WAY he can handle this. STUPIDITY on the part of the Tyrant. The Holy Will of God throught His Excelllency!

      Delete
    3. Send Tony down there. HE just messing up more day by day on the Hill. Let him PASTOR.

      Delete
  50. There have been several comments about Fr. Julius, his appearance and his abilities. I let a few through as part of the conversation, however, I'm going to hold off on permitting anymore. I don't know Fr. Julius, and as far as I know, he was sold the same bill of goods Fr. Luis was. The NCW does not prepare men to be parish priests and pastors. Archbishop Apuron is abusing both these men and these parishes by forcing them into that situation.

    ReplyDelete

  51. Tim, please can we have a page review chart of readership past days?

    ReplyDelete
  52. When Fr.Luis was in custody, he called Fr.____ and informed his situation but Fr._____sat on it until the next day to inform AAA......HMmmm...now I wonder why Fr.____did not inform AAA asap about Fr.Luis' problem the minute he got the call????

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Priests on Guam learning of any form of abuse must report immediately to Guam Protection office. This law is to protect children from abuse. Whoever this priest is who sat on information over night violates Guam civil law. On hearing the news from Fr.Luis Camacho direct the priest is duty bound to report to civil authority and Archbishop Apuron. Serious violation of civil law.

      Delete
  53. Firstly - I would like to know how many anonymous Tim Rohr comments here?
    Objective question;

    Firstly - did Deacon Martinez gave you permission to post this letter?

    Secondly- How did you get this letter?

    Thirdly- in what authority do you have this document? Are you a lawyer, representative of the victim?

    PLS ADVISE US?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. LOL. Anonymous comments? All 20,000 of them. Didn't need permission. Got it in an email. No need for authority. Bye.

      Delete
    2. Who gave you the E-Mail? Provide us the name?

      James Bauer

      Delete
    3. LOL. I'm a journalist. It's called "protection of sources".

      Delete
    4. The question you really need to be asking is who was the priest that Fr. Luis called immediately after being arrested. That priest was MANDATED to report the incident immediately, both to the Archbishop and to the civil authorities. But, did nothing. Even after the archbishop learned about it he did not report it to the civil authorities, which in this case should have been CPS.

      Delete
    5. Whoops! Maybe priest called didn't KNOW. Seems lots of things he doesn't know. The communities have laws unto themselves. Dancing to a different drummer. Interesting creative alternative ways of presbyters having companions we are learning too. This scandal is blockbuster. Crack open Saipan too....Funny how God works.

      Delete
    6. Archbishop, stand up to this, NOW. Explosive X rated reporting on Pacific News Center. KIDS saw the teaching of your evil presbyters teaching. Archbishop KREBS....NOW>

      Delete
    7. You post anonymously @ 5:30 PM and demand answers? LOLOLOL!

      Delete
    8. Anon at 5:30 PM, are you an investigator? What are your intentions? Looks like you're up to no good. Stick around for some fun. LOL

      Delete

  54. Journalists never disclose sources.

    ReplyDelete
  55. Wow Tim. how right you are. Any priest on Guam knowing the information Luis gave him is duty bound by law to report to civil authority. Failing to do so becomes a concern. Archbishop should have reported this within the first ten mins of learning of the arrest.

    ReplyDelete
  56. There is a term I've learned, called Deliberate Indifference, which is defined as....."the conscious or reckless disregard of the consequences of one's acts or omissions. It entails something more than negligence, but is satisfied by something less than acts or omissions for the very purpose of causing harm or with knowledge that harm will result......or......Ignoring a situation known to exist."

    As far as I am concerned, AAA as well as the SARC and the "other" priest who knew about this incident but chose not to notify proper authorities of it, should be held culpable and should be charged in a criminal setting for their actions.

    ReplyDelete