Tuesday, August 30, 2016

THROW THE BUMS OUT!

Posted by Tim

In response to the CCOG criticism that RMS only has 3 "permanent" professors for 7 listed departments, Pius the Samnut told KUAM today:

"Eight permanent professors and five adjunct professors are teaching at the Institute. In addition, three priests, former students of the Institute, Fathers Miguel Angel, Julio Caesar and Edivaldo have already acquired the Licentiate in Theology at the Lateran University in Rome or at the Lugano University in Switzerland; Father Fabio is studying to acquire the licentiate; they will continue their studies toward their Masters and eventually make part of the permanent faculty of the Institute."


Notice that the Samnut does NOT say WHO those eight permanent professors are. He doesn't because he can't. You can be sure if there really were eight permanent professors he'd be listing their names and every credential they have. Instead he jumps to the "former students of the institute." What a joke. 

Also notice that he says: Father Fabio is studying to acquire the licentiate. Meanwhile, the Umatuna of December 8, 2013 stated:

His Excellency Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron, OFM Cap., D.D. has just released four of his diocesan priests to go on mission. Details are being worked out but in a meeting on Friday Nov. 29, 2013, the archbishop blessed Father Santiago Flor-Caravia of Chalan Pago, Father Fabio Faiola of Santa Rita, Father Edwin Bushu of Santa Bernardita and Father Aurelio Stoia of Merizo and Umatac as they embark on a new phase in their lives.

“Go and announce to the whole world the good news,” said the Master.

Father Santiago will go to Japan, Father Edwin to Kenya and Tanzania while Father Fabio and Father Aurelio to Asia. They all have been trained in a Redemptoris Mater Seminary which has the aim to form seminarians with a specific missionary spirit, that after ordination the priests are available to go wherever the archbishop sends them.

This was a lie from the beginning. Fabio never went to Asia. He went home to Italy where he has been living well off of our collections and after sucking us dry for the years he spent at the seaside Yona palace. And today Pius confirmed it: "Father Fabio is studying to acquire the licentiate."

Also, it says Father Edwin (Bushu) went to Kenya and Tanzania. RIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHTT. LOL. Bushu has been seen around the diocese several times ever since this announcement was made and here he appears in a picture standing behind Archbishop Hon just a few days ago.


And here's another LIE:

"...after ordination the priests are available to go wherever the archbishop sends them."

That's complete B.S. A diocesan bishop has NO authority to assign a priest to anyplace outside his diocese. All those "on mission" guys are doing nothing other than playing presbyter to neocat communities around the world and enjoying a nice vacation on our dime.

THROW THE BUMS OUT!

28 comments:

  1. These preysbiters are NOT legitimate priest! Incomplete and protestant theological formation invalidates their ordination. The validity of the masses they preside over is questionable.

    With the premise of illegitimate formation what purpose is served by the acquisition of the Licentiate in Theology at the Lateran University in Rome or at the Lugano University in Switzerland? NONE! It's called "deception".

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  2. Thankyou Bruce i have long been questioning the validity of the Masses of these priests. I know the church supplies what lacks but i doubt even that principle as these ncw priests have no intention to confect the bread wine into the Body Blood of Our Lord. If i have mass said for the dead i need to know it is a real Mass not a fake mass. Serious issue. I for one will only receive Holy Communion consecrated from those i believe authentic catholic priests.

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  3. So, after all, they have to obtain their Licenciate out of Guam.
    Said in other words, they can not acquire the Licenciate in Theology in Guam.
    RM's formed in RM Guam Semminary have to finish their studies out, yes or yes.
    And what about some itinerant working as associated professor at Guam University? Does he go to work without bag, with a simple tunic and sandals? Of course by feet? Of course waiting for a charity coffee or sandwich thrown from heaven?
    These are Kiko and Carmen's ideas of poverty and leaving all for the Gospel!
    Just living in the neocatechumenal world. Happy Hannukah and nice flower raimbow power.

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  4. Actually Fr. Edwin was in Kenya for about two years--he just recently returned. He and I talked about Africa together as we have both lived there. Fr. Edwin speaks Swahili as well.

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    1. And you believe him because ?

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    2. Our conversation was detailed, and he asked very pointed questions about Namibian socio-economic development. There was nothing feigned about his
      participation in our conversation.

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    3. I don't doubt he's been to Kenya, but NOT as a missionary as we were fooled into thinking. If he was there at all he was in the warm bosom of some neocat community who coddled him like he was coddled here. If he wanted to be a missionary to Kenya then why not join an order that sends missionaries to Kenya. Instead he joins the neocats in Guam where he is warm and well-fed on our dime and then vacations in Kenya, flying back here frequently (again on our dime) since he was seen so much around Agana since his "mission" was announced that people wandered if he had ever left. And even if he was in Kenya, Apuron had NO authority to send him there. It's bullshit.

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    4. FYI Edwin or Billy Goat...WAS in a religious order as a Brother. Didn't work out.

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  5. First principle.
    Never believe what a neo tells you.
    Impossible for Fr.Edwin to have learnt swahili.

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    1. It was Fr. Edwin's second stint in Kenya. He had lived there once before.

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    2. Guile adds nothing to our conversation. We permit his comments for fun.

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    3. if he lived there before then that was probably his vacation--err-mission of choice.

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  6. Edwin did not have the intellectual skills at his age to learn Swahili.

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    1. They don't need to speak Swahilli...they are sent to minister to the NEO team sent there... Same like Japan.

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    2. Edwin older than Brother Ton. Why are we ordaining old bully goats? Grouchy goats at that. Heard Edwin shout yet? Wait for it!

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    3. Simple, 9:45 AM. Cushy retirement benefits courtesy of Apuron's promises. They justify it by process of incardination, then they leave to some arcane "missionary" place, while collecting allowance and pension on Guam Faithful's dime. All this while financing a pink elephant of a seminary and not leaving anything else for the Archdiocese's other programs. Leeches, that's what they are! Leeches that insult the people of Guam while depending on Guam for their sustenance.

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  7. Where's Adrian in the picture? Is he the elitist of the diocese and thereby gets a pass? What a joke in a cloak he is!

    RIP Fr. Pat

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    1. and........where oh where is Alberto (the now chancellor)funny how I heard that those working in the parishes where told to sign that they will not be listening (media, news papers nor talking about the going on situation.) sounds like a gag order to me.

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    2. Adrian has been defiant of Hon. He has his own world, and knows that he cannot be touched. What a joke he is.

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  8. Unfortunately when looking at these four "pictured priests", I do not really see wholesome priests among them. I am used to seeing Priests who look like that they are the True Representatives of God! Ones that you can relate with the Catholic Church and talk about God. I would personally will not go to any confessions to any of the pictured ones. Too Unpriestly For Me!

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    1. No one is forcing you to go to any of them.

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  9. the main point is that apuron had no business or authority to be sending these people on "missions" outside the archdiocese of agaña.

    the second point is that these aren't true missions. they're extended visits to neocat groups in those countries.

    it's revealing that i see how neocats love so much to boast about their numbers and the places where they've been sent, and yet i rarely see much, if at all, about what they actually do in those places. do they feed the hungry, clothe the naked, care for the sick, bury the dead? do they build housing? do they provide education to children and help their mothers? most importantly, do they preach the Gospel through their word and action? all you have to do is look at what they do on guam, and you'll have the answers to those questions.

    if apuron truly was interested in helping out missionary work, he could have promoted the support of established, real missionaries and asked for special donations, etc. i'm thinking, for example, of mother teresa's missionaries of charity (especially because she's going to be canonized this weekend). it's like an insult to real missionary work and real missionaries, the way neocats market themselves as such.

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    1. Actually Rey . They do in the measure that they can. I'll make a bet that the youth evangelize more than you do. the youth will even give what they have to help a poor person, but they don't make it known. When you give to the needy, do not let your right hand know what your left is doing. Do you do ALL those things you mentioned above?? Hmmmmm

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    2. LOL. Rey is not pretending to "go on mission" and sucking the money out of the archdiocese. What a fool. If we are not supposed to let the right hand know what the left hand is doing then why this big public send off in front of the pope each year? Stupid. The NCW is all about "look at me" numbers, and you pretend to lecture Rey. Who let you out of your crib? Hmmmmm.

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    3. The public send off is for missionaries. LOL stupid. How are they sucking the money out of the archdiocese? The parishes do not pay for these priests trips lol. Stupid again. How are we "looking at ourselves" ? We don't care about numbers. How are you even a grown up? Your arguments here aren't even legitimate . Hmmmmmmmmmmm

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    4. Yes, it's a public send off. Letting the whole world know what the right hand is doing.

      The priests who are sent "on mission." They "belong to the archdiocese." We paid for their formation - what there is of it. We are paying for them to go on mission. If not, then prove it.

      You don't care about numbers. LOL. No wonder you don't use your name. LOL.

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    5. You paid for their formation ?? Prove it too. You pay for them to go on mission? Are you sure? Prove it. The communities are the ones paying for their airfare? If you pay for it then how come you don't have their itinerary on hand?? And what is wrong with a public send off? Lol it good because we let the world know that the pope approves. Or should EVERYTHING be kept in secrecy as what you are implying here. And why are you speaking for Rey? You control him too? Lol your arguments are in circles. And I don't use my real name because your the idiot who allows it to be like that on this site right? LOL

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  10. Where would I be able to find a list of of Neo priest in Guam? Is Fr. Mario from St Joseph parish, Inarajan a neo priest?

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