Saturday, September 24, 2016

DEAR HOLY FATHER:

You sent Hon here to "restore unity"??? Really? Apuron only raped our children. Hon is raping our Faith. He has now targeted a priest who the people will rally to protect like no one else. In fact, for Hon's own safety, it is time you remove him. The people will explode when they learn about this. Take this message seriously. 

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  1. The Bogeyman Strikes!! Driving home all I could think about is how to retaliate. I was thinking of everything from rotten tomatoes to rotten eggs and worse! Hon has done in three months what it took Apuron 30 years to do and that is divide our Catholic Church community. Now he is doing what Cardinal Baloney wants him to do and that is persecute our priest. How do we get rid of this lying bishop? Why does the truth scare him so much? I think Hon is part of a NEO SWAT team, Sewer Water And Taki! Just when we thought the church could start healing, Hon starts putting salt in the wounds. The best Rome could give us is a walking nightmare! Soon the signs at the picket will read "Fry Hon Tai"!!

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    1. When is it OK for a bishop to be mean to one of our priests? NEVER!

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    2. I don't know if he learned from Apuron or Apuron learned from him.

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  2. Better to be corrected than to think "I'm always right in what I think, say and do." I think it's clear that there are some priests in Archbishop Hon's administration that have disobeyed, for whatever reason. Have such priests been too involved with JungleWatch? Has this not affected their judgment regarding the RMS report, the Neocatechumenal Way and the situation of the Archdiocese? Are those priests (whoever they may be) who subscribe to JW going to obey a blogsite or obey a bishop? Many are fascinated with the information on this blog, so the question is: Where has the author(s) obtained all such information (e.g. letters, documents, emails, etc.)?

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    1. LOL. All the documents were attached to the report. They got the public docs from the same place I got them: government agencies. The other documents were internal documents abstained from RMS and the chancery. The evidence that RMS does not
      Provide a diocesan formation was evidenced by the products of RMS long before it was documented on this blog. Nice try.

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    2. @12:46 PM, The answer is they obey the will of God. There is no obligation for anyone priest or not to obey any unjust scheming, or planning of evil or misdeeds against the people in the church, especially if coming from its leaders. You produce proof that any of the documents presented in JW is false or fabricated, and we will listen to you, otherwise, you are just another of these Neos trying to pull the wool over our faces. You bring no answer or solutions to resolve issues that are brought upon the church by the very leaders that are suppose to be leading in the truth.

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    3. 12:46 PM, Why should we obey a bishop who lies, manipulates, and regards as as subjects who should fear him and grovel at his feet? We will respect a bishop who is true to his vows and conducts himself in a Christ-like manner. Hon and Apuron do not meet this requirement. Feel free to continue kissing their collective asses.

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    4. I just asked a question. I didn't say any of the documents were fabricated. Just wanted to know how the info was obtained.

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    5. Here are some interesting thoughts of the Archbishop Hon from the Wikipedia: In March 2011, Hon said the planned ordination of priests by the Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association means, "division [...] causes great pain to the entire body ... [the] whole body is scarred and bleeding." No bishop can be appointed canonically without a papal mandate. He continued by adding that those who have resisted the will of the party, such as Mgr Li Lianghui (Cangzhou, Hebei) are now in isolation, forced to undergo political re-education classes. He insists that Chinese priests and bishops must show “some backbone” and resist the pressures out of love for Church unity, and the memory of the many heroic witnesses to the faith of the past decades. Hon has pursued the release from prison of two imprisoned bishops (Mgr James Su Zhimin of Baoding and Mgr Cosma Shi Enxiang of Yixian), without success. In July 2011, Archbishop Hon, while addressing hundreds of delegates from Eastern Africa (AMECEA) during the 17th plenary assembly in Nairobi, stressed the ever increasing role of the lay faithful in evangelization. He said "Given that between 70% -80% of our church collaborators are women, AMECEA should make the effort to increase room for them in decision making processes", he said. He warned against the culture of death especially abortion and other "ideological poisons from abroad", which are leading to the erosion of certain African values whose sense of family the church supports. “AMECEA as a community of Christians has been useful in promoting the family beyond the limits of blood relationship and tribal allegiance", he said, in reference to the many inter-ethnic conflicts engulfing the region(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savio_Tai_Fai_Hon#cite_note-7).

      What we have learned so far from the Archbishop Hon is that it is acceptable to proceed according to your conscious if you raise your voice against abortion but not against child sexual abuse, the same as it is acceptable for a priest to show "some backbone" in China but not in Guam. I guess this double talk and double standards come out as the result of Archbishop's totalitarian mentality (itself shaped by both, his cultural background and affiliation to the Neocatechumenal Way), as well as the Archbishop's longtime absence from the confessional rooms. Otherwise, he would be able to show compassion towards victims of the child sexual abuse and understand position of the local Catholic priests in Guam. This case also explains why the traditional Catholics (lay people and prelates) can't accept ideology of complete and unreasonable obedience to any earthly authority. In the situation like this, Guam people have freedom to make necessary choices based on their own knowledge and conscious to protect each of "these little ones"(Matthew 18:5-7).

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    6. No, 4:34. You did not "just ask a question." You heavily implied that the report was corrupted by this blog, even to the extent of the visitators obtaining documents from this blog. Anything to save RMS.

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    7. Rose de los Reyes (Seattle, WA)September 26, 2016 at 12:23 AM

      To: Anon 12:46 -- "Where has the author(s) obtained all such information (e.g. letters, documents, emails, etc.)?" Many key documents and other materials, including audio recordings and links are available here in JungleWatch in the tabs entitled “The File Box”, “Certificate of Title Fiasco”, “References”, and “Orchestrated Series.” Some of the articles and essays in JungleWatch provide embedded links to a supporting evidence within those articles/essays. JungleWatch is open to anyone who wishes to read its contents whether laity or clergy. You imply that if there are clergy who read JungleWatch that the JW is their only source of influence. As in all information, it is helpful to hear both (or all) sides. For this reason, if clergy read JungleWatch, doing so provides them with another source of perspective than information that they receive from within the Church. Sometimes information within the Church and outside of the Church (such as through JungleWatch) align with each other. Sometimes they oppose. I believe it is good for clergy to be informed from all sides. It will help them bring a more rounded perspective when approaching their work.

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  3. AB Hon.....make your plans to vacate Guam. You have out used your welcome here. Exit....Stage Right.

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  4. Here are some interesting thoughts of the Archbishop Hon from Wikipedia: In March 2011, Hon said the planned ordination of priests by the Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association means, "division [...] causes great pain to the entire body ... [the] whole body is scarred and bleeding." No bishop can be appointed canonically without a papal mandate. He continued by adding that those who have resisted the will of the party, such as Mgr Li Lianghui (Cangzhou, Hebei) are now in isolation, forced to undergo political re-education classes. He insists that Chinese priests and bishops must show “some backbone” and resist the pressures out of love for Church unity, and the memory of the many heroic witnesses to the faith of the past decades. Hon has pursued the release from prison of two imprisoned bishops (Mgr James Su Zhimin of Baoding and Mgr Cosma Shi Enxiang of Yixian), without success. In July 2011, Archbishop Hon, while addressing hundreds of delegates from Eastern Africa (AMECEA) during the 17th plenary assembly in Nairobi, stressed the ever increasing role of the lay faithful in evangelization. He said "Given that between 70% -80% of our church collaborators are women, AMECEA should make the effort to increase room for them in decision making processes", he said. He warned against the culture of death especially abortion and other "ideological poisons from abroad", which are leading to the erosion of certain African values whose sense of family the church supports. “AMECEA as a community of Christians has been useful in promoting the family beyond the limits of blood relationship and tribal allegiance", he said, in reference to the many inter-ethnic conflicts engulfing the region.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savio_Tai_Fai_Hon].

    What we have learned from the Archbishop Hon, it is acceptable to proceed according to one's own conscious if you raise your voice against abortion but not against child sexual abuse; the same as it is acceptable to show "some backbone" if you are priest in Chine but not in Guam. I guess this double talk and double standards come out as the result of Hon's totalitarian mentality (itself influenced by both, his cultural background and affiliation with the Neocatechumenal Way) and his absence from the confessional rooms. Otherwise, he would be able to show more compassion to the victims of sexual abuse in Guam, as well as understand why the traditional Catholics (both, lay people and prelates) don't accept an ideology of complete obedience to anyone, but have freedom to make a reasonable choice.

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  5. I don't have any more patients I want to go in and kick them out of our church..

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    1. LOL! Dr. Ric Eusebio....is that you?

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  6. Bullying will never achieve unity. Hon, you have lost your credibility and our respect. Pray tell, reveal what your "real"
    mission is on our island. Apparently, whatever it is, it isn't working and causing you to displace your anger towards a highly
    respected priest who is a true servant of God! Ann A.

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  7. Sorry HON,NO more HONey do for you in Guam..we gave you the Benefit of the doubt upon your arrival in June but you had other ideas.The handful of people rooting for you is just as toxic as you are...You may ALL think you have won the battle but we will win ( and are winning ) the war..Go back to Rome or wherever you THINK may want or welcome you. ..You have over extended your welcome on our Island so please leave quietly while you still can.. Do it with some pride and dignity knowing you did something right..at least for yourself if nobody else.
    ...Just remember,the whole world are either reading, listening or watching every move you make here in our Beautiful Island of Guam...

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  8. AB HON,coming from a Tradition Asian family myself,Do I have to remind you of the SHAME you have and still inflicting on your family especially your Parents whether they are still alive or not??...Have you NO shame for what you are doing??..Have you NO conscience???..Is this How your Parents raised you??..To be Evil and Deceitful not only to the true teaching of the church but to GOD himself? ...HON,do you remember All the love and sacrifices your parents have made for you, How much pride they have for you when you became priest and then a Bishop??..Your Parents may not have all the Material wealth to offer you but they gave you the best they can..Your Parents gave you the most important thing in this world and that is L-O-V-E ..They taught you to have some pride and self respect . Have some sense of decency and think of the S-H-A-M-E and H-E-A-R-T-A-C-H-E-You are causing your family,friends,community and most especially Your P-A-R-E-N-T-S ...

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    1. Anon 7;41...you forgot to mentioned HONOR...Once you lose that Honor and Respect,You are a Disgrace to the World especially to your family..I guess his family especially his Parents do not mean anything to him.....HON sold his soul to the Devil ..nothing else matters but Fame,Power and his worldly Possessions..oh I forgot to mentioned Filioni and his Baloney ways..

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