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Mark Farrugia farrugiamark7351@gmail.com



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Stop saying lies against kiko arguello! Im convinced that he is sent from the Holy Spirit. Just pray for him. 

Tim Rohr timrohr.guam@gmail.com


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LOL

Mark Farrugia

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Do you believe in the neochatecumenal way?  Why are you so against it? 

Mark Farrugia


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The neochatecumenal way did so much good in my life. It helped me to really know MYSELF and I knew that Im sinner, thats why I need community (neochatecumenal) so that I could experience love. 

Tim Rohr timrohr.guam@gmail.com

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I only need Jesus. He provides everything. 

Tim Rohr timrohr.guam@gmail.com

And no, I don't believe in the neocatechumenal way. I believe in Jesus. 

Mark Farrugia


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Jesus is  presented in the neochatecumenal way. 

Tim Rohr timrohr.guam@gmail.com

MORE FROM MARK

Mark Farrugia <farrugiamark7351@gmail.com>Tue, May 9, 2017 at 10:31 PM
To: Tim Rohr <timrohr.guam@gmail.com>
The worst thing is that you haven't understand the concile vatican 2..

Tim Rohr <timrohr.guam@gmail.com>Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:10 AM
To: Mark Farrugia <farrugiamark7351@gmail.com>

And you know that because....?



28 comments:

  1. Those in the neocult guess feel the need to work harder because they lost their way to the church. Whereas normal Catholics never lost their faith and believe in Jesus Christ.

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  2. Mike Farrugia is talking about the neoCHATecumenal way, which is new chatty community that worships Kiko.

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  3. Mark,

    It was not the NCW that did all the good in your life, it was God that is the source of all that is good. Its the Holy Spirit that gives us true perspective of our sinfulness, not Kiko and his NCW, and as Scripture testifies, God is Love, Not the NCW. Why do you place so much emphasis in human beings that give you temporary security, love, and help. seek that which is above that last unto life everlasting.

    How can you say that Kiko was sent by the Holy Spirit? By what certainty do you make this claim? Kiko's Kerygma teaches that Holy Mass is not the Sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ, that bread and wine are not transformed into his body and blood by the act of consecration at each Holy Mass. There is questionable teaching on Kiko's belief of the Holy Trinity, as well as the teaching that Jesus is a sinner. These teachings are foundational to Catholic Teaching and have great implication on our Christian faith. No one sent by the Holy Spirit contradicts these foundational teaching of our faith. Hence Kiko's fruits tell us outright that he cannot possibly be sent by the Holy Spirit. He is but a mere man placed on a pedestal by many followers of the NCW and elevated as a prophet and even a saint. Listen to what Christ through his Church teaches us, after all scripture tells us that this Church that he left us with is "The pillar and foundation of Truth" (1Tim3:15)

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    1. Beautifully said.....

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  4. The NCW isnt new at all,it is a model of Post-Baptismal catechumenate to be fulfilled under the discretion of the diocesan Bishops, or as John Paul II defined it in the words in art. 1 of the Statues, as an "Itinerary of Catholic Formation:" a formation to Christian life, based principally on catechesis and liturgy, in part in the community and conducted given the specified methods and guidelines

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    1. Now, if you neo's would just actually follow your statute. SMH

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    2. Mark Farrugia, can you explain what specifi methods and guidelines you are referring too?

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    3. New or not is not the point. One is being formed in Kiko's catechesis, and Kiko's Liturgy, using Kiko's Art and singing Kiko's music and Koko's dance around Kiko's banquet table beautifully decorated according to Kiko's interpretation of early Christian worship. Get back to the Church. The Sacraments were instituted by Christ, and entrusted to the Church, she mandates certain rituals and rubrics to protect the sacredness of these Holy Gifts from God. We do not wish to follow Kiko's rendition of what the liturgy is. Who the hell is Kiko anyway?

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    4. The NCW is "a Protestant-Jewish community inside the Church with a Catholic decoration", it is a heresy invented by Kiko.

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  5. The ncw isnt new

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  6. The Farrugias are a well known Maltese Catholic family in the US and overseas. Some of them are obviously mixed up with the Maltese Neocat stinking monk.

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  7. I recently watched the EWTN program about the NCW on its Church Universal series. OH MY. It was all I could do to sit there cringing as an NCW wife publicly catalogued her husband's sins before the audience, including drug addiction and adultery, things that NEVER should have been paraded by the other spouse in such a forum. Even the priest who was hosting the show started to fidget and get visibly embarrassed as she went on and on about the sins of her husband, who was sitting there looking down at the floor. This is the result of their emphasis on sin and public confession. She finally admitted that she was not a perfect wife either, but interestingly, she didn't go into detail. Very strong cultish vibe, they definitely had drunk the koolaid.

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  8. Whats a koolaid?

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    1. You're kidding, right??

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  9. In a way, the public confession of the NCW on EWTN, may show those who are caught up in the same sins, that they can be forgiven through the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ in the Sacrament of Reconciliation. But, it is Jesus who forgives; one does not have to join the NCW for this.

    My concern is the NCW kept pertinent information to those who put on the show. There was NO mention of the way they celebrate the Eucharist as being contrary and disobedient to that which the Vatican stipulates. If there is no recognitio (written permission) from the Pope, there is no permission for the additions and deletions contained in the Mass. (Saint John Paul II - Eucharistic Encyclical and Redeptionis Sacramentum)

    Although their Statutes, after much correction, was approved in 2008, it was LATER in January 2012 that Kiko and the Way were in Rome to "accept" the anticipated approval/written permission for the way they celebrate Mass. They were shocked that they were DENIED recognitio by Pope Benedict XVI in that January 2012 meeting, yet they continue to ignore the Pope's corrective instructions to follow the approved liturgical books.

    Everyone should notify EWTN for presenting a show without first warning "to become part of the Way will require disobedience to the Popes' directives to adhere to the approved liturgical books." This is something that the Way hides from its members.

    EWTN - please issue warning of this deception.

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    1. I thought EWTN was big on rubric and ritual... how can they seriously be marketing this sick substitution for the real liturgy? And yes we are all sinners but how is becoming for a wife to berate her husband passive-aggressively and in public for millions of viewers to see? Aren't we supposed to deal with our own sins? Not edifying or inspiring in the least. And the other couple on the show had a husband who was going on and on about how awful he himself was, such a sinner, until he found the Way and that he is still a bad father yada yada. My goodness, so much focus on the self instead of on Jesus! It was all about sin sin sin... no redemption and optimism because of what Jesus did for us.

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    2. They do not believe in Jesus. He is only "presented" as the neocat states above.

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    3. Spot on Tim, and they referred to Jesus as a missionary in a way that I found so strange, off-putting because Our Lord is on an infinitely higher plane than any human "missionary". Yes missio means sending and Jesus was sent by the Father but He Himself IS the message, the Truth: "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life."

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    4. The NCW is infinitely worse than Eastern religions that equate Christ with their spacey gurus and regard Him simply as an ascended master. Those often syncretistic sects don't masquerade as Catholic or Christian, so there's no confusion about the origins of their often amoral belief systems.

      Just like Jim Jones' pathetic Guyana victims, the Neocat rank and file are suicidally stupid. However, Kiko should take heed of that grim saga because history repeats itself. Homosexual Jones hit the wall along with his homies. Thankfully, his San Francisco-based People's Temple never regrouped.

      Speaking of which...Despite all of wealthy Kiko's family values noise, he remains unmarried and childless at age 78. Why? Is he another one of those Rome-protected closet perverts?

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  10. I was laughing at Tim's retort,"so glad they thought to include him (meaning Jesus). In typical nonsensical fashion, Tim refuted the NCW claim that they are Catholic. This cult is nothing but kiko-worship, as Schneider pointed out, " It is a mere Trojan horse that masquerades as Catholic when in reality the are lecherous fawning fans of kiko's megalomanic designs.

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  11. EWTN is a heterodox disaster controlled by arrogant Evangelical converts and Charismatics. Complaints sent to them fall on deaf ears. Mother Angelica must be spinning in her grave.

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  12. The NCW provides post-baptismal formation to adults who are already members of the Church or to those far from the Church who have been attracted by the testimony of Christian life of love and unity in the communities.

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    1. Yes, that's "the line" anyway. It's the "formation" that is the problem. I know lots of people who have been "attracted" AWAY from the one, true Church "by the testimony of Christian life of love and unity in the communities" of many other "churches," including those which do not believe Jesus is God...such as the NCW.

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    2. Correction: The NCW is "a Protestant-Jewish community inside the Church with a Catholic decoration", it is a heresy invented by Kiko.

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  13. More from Mark:

    Mark Farrugia Tue, May 9, 2017 at 10:31 PM
    To: Tim Rohr
    The worst thing is that you haven't understand the concile vatican 2..

    Tim Rohr Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:10 AM
    To: Mark Farrugia
    And you know that because....?

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  14. You know what?

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    1. Not sure what you are referring to but I'll explain my question. Mr. Farrugia claims I don't understand Vatican 2, and I am asking him how he knows that. He doesn't of course. And I am quite certain, since he's a Kiko, that he has never read Vatican 2. Once again, like so many others, he is referring to the euphemistic "spirit of Vatican 2" which for half a century has given license to all sorts of monstrosities and provided the manure to fertilize the likes of Kiko Arguello.

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  15. - There's no more love or unity in the NCW than any other "part" of the Catholic Church (except probably in Guam). On an exceptionally good day, some of the members look after some of the other members, yes.

    - It's not necessary to "understand" the 2 nd Vatican Council. Overambitious from the start, the goalposts kept being moved by the periti and a brave face was put on the vague documents that ensued.

    - Following the apparent "model" and the statutes is specifically excluded, as is the discretion of the bishop.

    I have observed all these things first hand over a period of 28 years.

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