Saturday, August 2, 2014

WE WILL PRAY HIM "GONE"!

So this morning, I wake up and I see this comment from the Deacon. I thought, well that's nice of him to say, but there is no reconciliation with error. The error must be corrected or gotten rid of, before there can be healing, but, I thought, he's a deacon, and he's saying what he's supposed to say, so I posted it. 

  1. Deacon Ronnie San NicolasAugust 2, 2014 at 5:02 AM
    Let us pray to Blessed Diego Luis De San Vitores
    (Intention for Reconciliation in the Archdiocese of Agana)

    God of mercy and love, through the preaching of your martyr Blessed Diego, you brought the Good News of Jesus Christ to the people of the Marianas who had not known Him. By his prayers, help us to endure all suffering for love of you and to seek you with all our hearts for you alone are the source of life. We ask this through your Son, Jesus Christ, Our Lord. Amen.

Then, as if to substantiate my thought, two comments later, I come to this. And this is why there is no possibility of reconciliation. There is only the possibility of getting rid of error. This isn't just one kiko freak talking. Kiko freaks don't think for themselves. They think as they are instructed. They "group think". They repeat what they are told. And this is what they are told. And this is why we will increase our fight against them.


You don't know what you are talking about. What a bag of hot gas. Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true. Say something with faith.... Lets hear it....Can you say something good? You have nothing to say. You only want to destroy and tear down. First-ever seminary in the Islands and you and that disobedient conniving Monsignor want to tear it down. No! He wanted to sell it to pay all off all the financial wrongs that he's done. 
What an idiot you must be not see how completely wrong you are! In your case we can say the devil has won. I hope you don't have children who are watching and learning from you. What problems you will have with them if you do.

This is what the kiko's have been told by ARCHBISHOP APURON. And they are repeating it. It is Archbishop Apuron who is spreading this LIE. So:

To all those who say we should "pray" for this Archbishop instead of criticizing him. Calling the Archbishop a LIAR is not a criticism. It is simply fact. A fact he unfortunately demonstrates again and again. So we will indeed pray for Archbishop Apuron. We will pray for the salvation of his soul. Because that is all that is left to pray for. Meanwhile, we will pray him GONE.

31 comments:

  1. "First-ever seminary in the Islands and you and that disobedient conniving Monsignor want to tear it down. No! He wanted to sell it to pay all off all the financial wrongs that he's done."

    That "disobedient conniving Monsignor?" Do you even know Monsignor James? He is so far from those words, and has gone through this ordeal with quiet dignity. He is obedient to his God, to his faith, to his flock -- and I am at a loss as to how someone could carry such vitriol towards a man who has devoted his life to the Church.

    Who is the devil whispering to? What hatred you cast. May God have mercy on you.

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    1. This is either a seminarian or a Kiko-priest.

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    2. And remember he is only saying what Apurin has said and told him to say. Apuron is the hater.

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    3. A seminary that harbors molesters and wants to destroy our culture.

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  2. Some of my neo friends mentioned this to me, as well. They told me that the Archbishop wanted to sell the seminary to pay off the existing debt of the Archdiocese of Agana. Is this true? If that is the case, is that a bad thing? Wanting to know more about this. I hope you will do another post explaining this.

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  3. Hi Tim, I am not sure if this is necessary. But for me who wants to read everything, I am having a hard time following every word. I think maybe, no one should "REPLY" and all should comment and just refer to the anonymous, date and time. This way, we need only to go to the bottom to read the latest postings instead of going all over the place to look for the new posting in the "REPLY" section.

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    1. I agree!!! Thanks Tim.

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    2. @ 9:31,

      It may harder that way, always having to go find the referenced comment. I just scroll from top to bottom, paying attention to the times of the post, keeping in mind the time of the last post I read. This method helps ease the brain strain due to my addiction to this blog...LOL

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    3. If anyone has experience with "blogger" and can recommend a different setting for the comments, let me know. For now, we'll have to make do.

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  4. He does not want to sell it. He wants to give it away. If you go to the seminary you will see that they have a model of how they are going to transform it into kikoville. And to the person who is lambasting Tim ( AnonymousAugust 2, 2014 at 2:05 AM), get your head out of your ass man, the echo in there is causing you problems. The facts of the matter with Mons. James are slowly trickling out of the woodwork, and they're making the Archbishop look psychedelic.

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  5. Good idea. I get loss when reading the exposition and revaluation of the arch.

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  6. Considering how "Diana," in "her" convoluted thought process interprets the word "gone" where Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron is concerned, "she" will probably take the title and words from closing sentence of this post — "We will pray him 'gone'" — as a threat to the Archbishop's life.

    I commented on "her" blog and expressed concern that "she" had approved a comment stating that "ALL the post on Jungle Watch … wish the Archbishop to fall ill and die …" (my emphasis) and challenged "her" to provide proof of that claim. In response "Diana" wrote:

    "The Anonymous poster who made that comment may have interpreted the following comment published in June 26, 2014 at 11:37 a.m. in Junglewatch as meaning that the poster in the jungle wanted the Archbishop to get sick and die. According to the comment posted in the Jungle, it stated:

    "Anonymous June 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    "Archbishop best to resign. But we know you will not. So seven more years of exposing your ways. Every day we will continue this blog until you have gone. Only then is the church safe when you have gone.

    "http://www.junglewatch.info/2014/06/its-time-for-this.html#comment-form

    "According to this comment posted in the jungle, the anonymous poster already stated that he knew the Archbishop will not resign. So, since he already declared in the second sentence that the Archbishop will not resign, the following statements after that implies something else. According to the statement (Capitalization is my emphasis): 'Every day we will continue this blog UNTIL YOU HAVE GONE. Only then is the church safe WHEN YOU HAVE GONE.'

    "'Until you have gone' and 'when you have gone’ cannot be interpreted as 'resignation' because the poster already made it clear in his comment that he knew the Archbishop would not resign. Therefore, this comment above 'until you have gone' and 'when you have gone' can be implied as something more than resignation. For example, when a person dies, sometimes, we say that they are gone."

    http://neocatechemunal.blogspot.com/2014/07/why-concern-over-money.html?m=0

    The "discussion" continued as I offered a different interpretation, but "Diana" was adamant that where the Archbishop is concerned, "Gone = Death" … PERIOD.

    In light of recent revelations as a result of Archbishop Anthony Sablan Apuron waging his Media Campaign to "justify" his removal of Msgr. James L.G. Benavente as Rector while refusing to communicate with the good priest, "gone" could very well mean "forced retirement to a life of prayer," which was my interpretation.

    Only time will tell.

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  7. I agree with Anonymous at 9:31 AM. Sure would make it easier to find the new postings!

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  8. I'll help them..., I will hold the door open until they are all outside then close it and lock it, pius, david, adrian and the Archbishop.

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  9. Dear Anonymous August 2, 2014 at 2:05 AM, you really need to open your eyes. You need God's help. Monsignor James is truly a wonderful person and the conniving is all a NCW movement. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but it is a plot of the Archbishop and his minions in the Neo-cats. Open your eyes, open your heart, open your mind, then, and only then, you will find your way. And that "way" is NOT the "WAY" of Kiko freaks.

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  10. Father Matthew Blockley.August 2, 2014 at 12:42 PM

    Reconciliation is with justice Deacon San Nicolas. Greater than reconciliation we value honor and integrity for honor and integrity goes beyond the grave. Nothing less than honor and integrity will be accepted.

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  11. I think Mr. Rohr misunderstood Deacon San Nicolas’ prayer intention by a L-O-N-G shot. It didn’t sound like the Deacon was wishing to pray for the ARCHBISHOP solely. His wrote: “Let us pray to Blessed Diego Luis De San Vitores (Intention for Reconciliation in the Archdiocese of Agana)”. I join Deacon San Nicolas in this intention. Our people…need to pray for the CHURCH OF GUAM and pray for it like we’ve never done before. A lot of things have happened, BUT as Catholics…especially those of us here on this island that has such a strong devotion to Our Lord and Lady…I ask you, what can be accomplished by putting on prideful agendas? I’m sure the devil has been smiling down on us lately because of all that has been happening, yet I know that Our Lady of Camarin has already crushed his head. I wish that a lot of these things had never occurred on our island for our clergy, but we can only go forward and try to make things better. Question is are we willing to try? Are we willing to put aside our prides, pitting neo’s against non-neo’s, revenge agendas, etc? At a time when Christian’s are being persecuted in the world, is this really where our hearts should be? I believe that God is in charge….I believe that He is allowing us to “act out” so that some lesson will be learned out of all of this. And in the end, how we will we tell God of how we have loved? Thank you for allowing me to post.

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    1. Thank you so much for this sane and humble posting. It would be good if the Archbishop led everyone in the " Humility Prayer" , or that we all say that prayer,
      Thank you for your time.

      Anna Maria I.D.

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    2. Don't forget that many wars have been fought against evil, with God by their side. Yes these armies prayed for peace and justice, but it was their actions that shaped the future in the name of God. Prayer with action is more powerful than prayer alone.

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    3. Feel free to pray all you want (as if the rest of us don't). But praying and DOING NOTHING has gotten us to this point. Had someone stood up and challenged the Archbishop when he publicly rejected the pope's directive to conform the NCW to the liturgical books and at the same time publicly took sides against the non-neo church, then maybe we wouldn't be here. The fact is appeals to prayer is usually used to mask cowardice. Imagine if all Jesus did was pray. He was killed because he got in to the face of the Pharisees, not because he prayed.

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  12. The division and fight is driving the young people out of the Catholic Church! When they see our Archbishop acting without love, and misrepresenting the truth, they give up on the church as an institution! How many souls have been driven away from Sunday mass because of the actions of the Archbishop, the NCW’s and the Archdiocesan leadership?? Our Non Neo Catholics faithfully participating in the church are dwindling fast!
    Our kids are not going to fight… they will just quit the church!!!

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    1. The young people I know are growing stronger in their faith and love for the true church. In fact, many of them are on this blog waging war against the false church.

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    2. As one of "The Young" I feel compelled to affirm that yes, these recent events have NOT driven the most loyal of us away. I think the Holy Spirit has emboldened us. Many of us have quietly been discussing the presence of the NCW on the Guam Church for many years. Rest assured to any who read this, we are awake. Our hearts are on fire with the Spirit and our prayers are ever fervent. Many of us have been quietly serving loyally within our respective parishes all these years in each of the ministries within, watching as the NCW slowly entrenched itself here. Yes there are many of us who are young and do not walk in "The Way"? Why? Because our faith was always of the oldest of paths to the True Way. We were blessed to see it so early on in our lives. We are not running, we are awake now, we have mobilized, we will help restore what is right and just in the Lord. And for those of the young who walk in their paths with "The Way". WAKE UP! The Lord was always guiding you from the start, maybe in quieter whispers versus the loud ranting of a false prophet. Some of you feel closer to God in this path. But let me tell you straight up, the path of The Way is NOT a CATHOLIC way. You are a separate church hiding within the Catholic Church, pretending to be Catholic but your ways are not and are misguided. If this is your path to God, then bless you. You are Christian. BUT PLEASE STOP HIDING WITHIN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. You are a whole other kind of Church, of which many of your fundamental ways of worship are actually protestant in nature.

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  13. Many students From FD are on this page learning about the truth and waging war against the neo. It is the young people reading this blog. Tim Rohr is respected by young people . It is the young people who will save the church on Guam.

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  14. After reading this, I have a solution: The Neo's should just removed themselves from the Catholic Church and start their own "Version" of their Born Again Christian Church model. They pretend they are Catholic and then do these separate secrete Eucharist celebration in these community groups. It is just strange and off the wall. I hope the Pope, finally puts an end to this "cult like" group for the sake of our Church! Nothing personal against the Neo's, just move out and leave our Catholic Church alone. Who is this Kiko guy anyway? I heard he's a billionaire? its this true? Now he might own property in Yona? lol They pulled the rug right under us again! Wake up Catholics and take a stand. Educated yourself!

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  15. Jesus accepted ALL of us...everyone...as we are...on Calvary for the forgiveness of our sins. YES, there have been so many errors committed with regard to this issue, BUT for us to continue to draw battle lines between each other on this small island...I ask you, what will this accomplish?? This will just cause the animosity and bitter feeling that exist to grow and grow....and then what? Our Catholic faith? Our traditions? What will become of them for our children and our children's children? I don't know about the rest of you, but I did not merely grow up Chamorru.... I was "raised" Chamorru through our Caholic faith and traditions. Our faith formed my moral values. It would be so sad to see our island lose this now because our church is hurting. Someone posted that"prayer and doing nothing" is not enough.....I agree.....I am praying however that my actions are conforming to God's will and not my own. That's the difference. .

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    1. I am always amazed at how people like you who advocate for a supposed "higher way" then lower yourself to base self-aggrandizement such as your "That's the difference". But for the others who may read this. Archbishop Apuron has long since declared war on the Church you were raised in. Our current response to him is only coming after more than a decade of watching him dismantle this archdiocese and asking God what to do about it. Most of us would have left him to his own destructive devices had he not purposely and maliciously slandered, first, Fr. Paul, and now, Msgr. James. Bishop or not, we have a duty out of justice to stand for these men and resist the evil that has perpetrated against them. And stand we will. And what will it "accomplish"? We do not look to "accomplish". We look simply to stand for truth, and we will not waver. This is not the first time our church has been attacked from within. And not the first bishop to do so either.

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    2. Thank you for your comment Mr. Rohr. May God's grace be with all of us.

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  16. My son is a student at Father Duenas. The young of Guam are very concerned. They are not abandoning our church but are looking at the elders to do something about it. As the role models and protectors of our children shall we dit idly by and allow the Church to continue or do something about it now? Lies are desperate acts of a despot clinging to the remaining vestiges of his undeserved power. Living as a former Archbishop will give Apuron the humility he needs to seek salvation.

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    1. With Father Efren at FDMS, your son will have now problems. This priest is a simple, well educated and so down to earth. He is in good hands!

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  17. Sorry to deviate a little. But for those of us who want to read everything in this blog and not miss anything, we had a few suggestions earlier. And there is a standing request by Tim on how to make this possible. I would just like to add that the problem really lies with the replies since it gets attached to the posting being replied to. Well, to make the process faster. Just scroll down to all the replies and read those that you have not read yet. The new comments will all be at the bottom. Hope this will be of help. More power to the Church Militant.
    Thank for Fr. Pius for a wonderful interview. It is backfiring on you. Please have more interviews even if we don't know on what authority you are giving them. You may not know it, but you are an honorary member of our opposition to the Archbishop. If I have the authority, I would officially make you a spokesman for our group. You make Tim really look good. Thank you, Fr. Pius.

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