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Hey u r famous again in Diana's blog : Anonymous November 6, 2014 at 6:07 PM
maybe anon@1:43 got his/her info from Father Mike Crisostomo. Who apparently out of love has alot to say......recently on his facebook he had this sarcastic remark about the chasubles at the cathedral....
"I know right...but its better this way...the chasubles may not have been washed since its last use..Ewww..."
As president of the Clergy Association he sure takes time out to encourage brotherhood among the priests. God Help us! For every foot forward, we take 5 steps back.
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maybe anon@1:43 got his/her info from Father Mike Crisostomo. Who apparently out of love has alot to say......recently on his facebook he had this sarcastic remark about the chasubles at the cathedral....
"I know right...but its better this way...the chasubles may not have been washed since its last use..Ewww..."
As president of the Clergy Association he sure takes time out to encourage brotherhood among the priests. God Help us! For every foot forward, we take 5 steps back.
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I just received this from a friend....My response to Anonymous: You know nothing as to what I do to "encourage brotherhood" among our priests.You know nothing as to how we are suffering quietly at the hands of your evil presence. Daily we are persecuted because of our true obedience to Our Lord and His Church. Yes, God help You to take your "foot" out of your mouth. You COWARD! You hide behind your anonymity while you criticize those who are truly working towards unity. But you know what, it is people like you that make me want to continue to speak out and reveal your stupidity and cowardice remarks. So go ahead. I dare you! Reveal yourself to me and to others. My guess is, you won't. You are too scared and too weak of a soul to show your true identity...I do not fear you or your kind. You are nothing but a disease that is in our church and one day we will rid our church of your malicious intentions and divisive acts.
From my Fatima Retreat 2012 with a group of Exorcists priests: Then the priest commands the demon as follows:
I command you, unclean spirit, whoever you are, along with all your minions now attacking this servant of God, by the mysteries of the incarnation, passion, resurrection, and ascension of our Lord Jesus Christ, by the descent of the Holy Spirit, by the coming of our Lord for judgment, that you tell me by some sign your name, and the day and hour of your departure. I command you, moreover, to obey me to the letter, I who am a minister of God despite my unworthiness; nor shall you be emboldened to harm in any way this creature of God, or the bystanders, or any of their possessions.
Depart from me you EVIL DOER!
I greatly fear Fr. Crisostomo will be the archbishop's next non-NCW priest victim. Most likely "Diana" is trying to provoke Father into saying things that will offend the archbishop. I hope I am wrong. I treasure the few real priests we have left. I worry which real priests will be displaced by the ordination of the "presbyters" tomorrow. Lord Jesus, please protect our genuine non-NCW priests!
ReplyDeleteFr. Mike is not afraid. BTW. NCW "priests" are not priests. They eschew the designation. "Priest" means "one who offers sacrifice.".
ReplyDeleteAnd they consider "offering sacrifice" to be the contamination of the Faith by natural religiosity. That's straight from Day 3 of their initial catechesis in the parishes.
DeletePale' Mike fights for truth. The NCW fight for KIKo! These neocats are so brainwashed they need Lobotomy. They don't have Fear of the Lord, but rather fear of Kiko. Are they afraid that by not following the teachings of Kiko, hell will be their destinatioN? Fanatics they have become.
ReplyDeleteSounds like Mike got Hurt. Awwwww. Take it like a man. You have time browsing in social media or loiter in MCDonalds?
ReplyDeleteHarold, aren't you supposed to be getting ready for something?
DeleteTim don't you have children to take care of? Hope to see you at the ordination with your small group of protesters. :)
DeleteNo need to protest what everyone can see is a farce. And yes I'm taking very good care of my children by showing them what could become of them if they ever entertain becoming a neonut. Thanks for providing the example. Good luck, Harold.
DeleteOJ's group of young ones again? Could this this Benjamin L.G.,? Maybe Ivan B?
DeleteWhomever you are, take care of the bills at the Cathedral! I am sure that putting your two-cents in will be most appreciated by the new administration!
Anonymous 7:08 - I'm a neutral person whose passion is helping people. I've listened to both sides and chose to stay neutral. But to clear the record, your group is out-numbered! This is my first comment in this site. I have close friends on both sides. FYI, groups who speak the loudest are normally the minority....like pro-gambling...
DeleteAnon 10:06........by your comment, you are no longer neutral. Choose your side.
DeleteHarold!, sounds like your ESL classes are paying off!...It seems like you are writing (or someone may be writing this for you?) in a better sentence structure. Keep at it and you would most likely be understood in one of your homilies (not that many will listen to it). Although condescending as the usual NEONUT I congratulate you for your ESL improvement. Good luck today with what appears to be an ordination for priests.
ReplyDeleteLike I said to the earlier anonymous: You are a COWARD! You hide behind your anonymity while taking cheap punches...Reveal yourself, you demon! BTW, I do not loiter in McDonalds, like other groups after Tuesdays, Wednesdays, & Saturdays gatherings at Kings/Shirleys. Of course I have time. I don't spend it taking cheap punches and then run away and hide behind my posts...Reveal yourself you Coward....You are a sad case for Christian Evangelization. You are a waste of time for others who truly deserve to be saved. "Take it like a man?"--BE A MAN AND REVEAL YOURSELF, YOU DEMON-FOLLOWER!
ReplyDeleteFr. Mike....WE ARE RIGHT BEHIND YOU! :-) Pls. know that you are in my prayers! Hu guaiya hao Pale' Mike....God bless you for all that you do.
DeleteI believe that there are two reasons why the Neo bloggers on Guam prefer anonymity:
Delete1) more than one of them hide behind one pseudonym. One can detect two or three writing styles in their posts. One is a relatively uneducated English-speaker who is known to refer to "escape goats" and the like. Another writes English very well, albeit with their sectarian slant.
2) They fear getting criticized by their hierarchy of catechists for something that they write, and a pseudonym gives them a sort of "plausible deniability."
This anonymity greatly undermines their witness, because people give little credence to anonymous words about Christ. There's absolutely no personal risk in the effort, and even non-believers (or especially non-believers) can see right through that.
Daring to speak with my real name and face...
Wow Mike what kind of man are you? I expected more outta you. Instead you bash people on this negative blog. I listen to homilies and I love it. However after reading your comments... idk..
DeleteWow, coward. I expected more outta you. ... NOT! Fr. Mike puts his name to his comments. He is not afraid like you. Run along now sissy. Go play with Diana.
Delete@3:56pm... If u don't know, and you attend the mass at IHOM, the I think you best move to a NEO run parish. You may feel a bit more comfortable there. We don't want to see you shaking your head during Pale' Mike's homily. You will become nothing but a distraction. To the congregation ! Vamos
DeleteHey Anonymous or should I call you, COWARD! I will be at the Ordination. I dare you to reveal yourself to me then and there. Take it like a man, and come to me...You can't miss me, I am the big fat guy waiting for a coward to show up...Hope to see you!
ReplyDeleteI was at the Ordination at 930am...waited for anonymous to show up...but as I said, he is too weak of a soul to reveal himself...the devil hides behind his tail.
ReplyDeleteHe was up in the altar hiding behind Apuron's tail. Same thing.
DeleteSomething missing! No announcement of assignments of the new Presbyters! Suspense. HMMMM.
DeleteI was watching the ordination on-line. I too noticed there was no announcement of their assignments. I am worried that we at the cathedral will get "Father" Harold-perish the thought. I also heard the archbishop ask the attendees for donations toward the cathedral maintenance. I'd like to see the nearly all NCW crowd donate maintenance money to the cathedral-or to any parish they use!
DeleteDidn't you see that right after they were anointed as priests, AAA congratulated the three, but his congratulatory remark was the longest for Harold be his name. Even whispering in his ear? Likewise Harold gave the AAA the longest blessing,
DeleteHarold are you aiming to be the Archie here. Seems like in the mainland, after the RMS get ordained, they are assigned to assist at a parish for at least two years. After that, they are sent to missions. OOG do they remain and are assigned as pastors.
You now need to go out and reach to the people of China. Aren't you all the 2,000+ being ordained to covert China as per Kiko? ai don't think AAA will let Harold go off to a country in turmoil. He is the boboy!
Kiss, Kiss, clap, clap, clap. Posted on Diana Blog...she probably won't post it. : ((
ReplyDeleteSorry, Diana, the Ordination was an exclusive NCW celebration. Hardly any Agana priests, Michael the Jucatan Master of Ceremony with Arch tellng him what to do. Neo Choir and Neo congregation. New Seminary down in old Carmelite Monastery. So, now, what? Do we have to build our own Cathdral? Divisive to the Nth degree. Sad. Hope you are full of joy.
AAAALOOOOHA could t even sing to the NCW tune for the other parts of the mass? He must be losing his golden voice for singing!
DeleteClap Clap is good! Sad for you Anno 4:32pm. Follow Jesus my brother don't reject his love for you... Come and join you will be lifted and moved..
DeleteThank you 4.32pm. I have been waiting to get news what happened this morning at the ordination. Not many Agana Priiests present at mass. Sounds it was not such a great event for he archdiocese.. Well, now Harold is ordained lets see how long it lasts.
ReplyDeleteYep!,...thought it would be so. The ordination (the lowercase "o" is intentional) was quite a spectacle. Yes, a lot of kiss, kiss, clap, clap, and boy what a bunch of crap! Glad Pale' Mike did not know care to know their names while giving the certificates to be handed to them. No need to, the Parishes who do not have a NEONUT Pastor are fully aware they are not in the mood to entertain a NEONUT movement.
ReplyDeleteThe ordination was truly a farce. Still, it had AAA with the extra kick in his step while he was walking out smiling that now that there are 3 more NEONUT priests out there. Good luck with the Chamorro Leksionario that he gave them. It should have been an ESL manual first, once they've mastered it, then the Leksionario should come after a few ESL exams that qualifies them to learn another language. TRULY HILARIOUS.
Here is the stranges part of all. My son who is a bonafide Altar Server was with me. He turned to me during the Consecration and said, "Dad, why aren't they kneeling?". I said to him, because they feel the NEOs feel can modify any part of the mass as they wish. How funny, a 13 year old telling me that the NEONUTS are not following the RUBRICS! Did they not see that in the MISSAL?
Interesting to hear my son also tell me, "Dad, why are they talking during the Consecration". The NEONUT priests up on the Altar were whispering to each other. So noticeable to a 13 year old Altar Server that they can already feel that this was not a "true mass celebration". He said to me, "Dad, how come it doesn't feel like a real mass?". This was not even from my influence. I asked him to look and feel what the mass would be like today and tell me what you see or feel is different. He was so acute about the difference that he could not wait to tell me after the mass. As the so called ordination celebration progressed, he continued to shower me with the differences of what is usually done at our Parish and others that he's served in versus this so called ordination mass.
Oh yes, and AAA's comment on the air conditioning that they almost were cut out because of the power bill was SO HIGH. Well, I never once heard this happening with the previous administration. It was so warm inside that people were using the program to fan themselves. That was too hilarious to see.
Good luck NEONUTS. IF I WERE NOT EXPECTED TO BE THERE, I WOULD NOT HAVE GONE. WE DID NOT HAVE TOO MUCH OF A CHOICE.
WE WERE INVITED AND AT THE SAME TIME, TOLD WE WERE EXPECTED TO BE THERE. I WOULD HAVE GONE EITHER WAY ONLY BECAUSE I KNEW 2 OF THEM. I WAS INTRODUCED TO THEM WHEN THEY FIRST ARRIVED ON ISLAND AND WOULD HAVE AT LEAST SAID CONGRATULATIONS. AFTER THIS TYPE OF AN INVITE, WE LEFT IMMEDIATELY AND DID NOT CARE EITHER WAY. THIS ORDINATION WAS A GOOD EYE OPENER IN SEEING HOW AAA TREATS THE NEONUT PRIESTS AND THOSE WHO ARE NOT IN "THE WAY".
To bad, so sad, but I really don't mind because the NEONUTS don't matter. They are just a part of matter that we normally flush down the toilet anyways. They flush out money from their members, abuse it and now now money to pay for the power at the Basilica. How sad it was that people were literally fanning themselves with the ordination booklet and wiping sweat from their brows.
WOW!...COULD NOT BELIEVE IT!...AAA HAD AN EXTRA KICK IN HIS STEP AND A RATHER LARGE SMILE ON HIS FACE BECAUSE HE WAS PROUD OF TODAY'S SPECTACLE? GET REAL AAA!
"As president of the Clergy Association he sure takes time out to encourage brotherhood among the priests. God Help us! For every foot forward, we take 5 steps back." -- and this because of the comment on the unwashed chasubles?! Are you freaking serious? And yet you do not see or do not admit that the Archbishop has lied and continues to lie to the faithful of Guam (re seminary, Fr Paul and Msgr James, the Museum among others), and thus has created a HUGE DIVISION among the clergy and among the faithful?!
ReplyDeleteWell, seemed like servers had no training to serve the ordination mass. Apuron looked like a lost child. just hope he did validly ordain these men, but it become questionable if his intention was to ordain them catholic priests. At the same time was it the intention of Harold and company to receive orders according to,the church. If I was on my death bed waiting for the last rites, I would not want to see Harold or any NCW presbyter. I would expect to see a validly ordained catholic priest and not some fake created by a fake archbishop.
ReplyDeleteVery snappy Master of Ceremonies! The Jucatan!
DeleteFor whatever it is worth. Putting name and placing my support for Pale Mike.
ReplyDeleteThose are not the Cathedral's alter servers. They are the seminarians. The Cathedral servers have a lot of experience serving at an ordination mass. They have not been asked to serve for special masses including ordinations since Monsignor James has been removed.
ReplyDelete"Cui Caput dolet, omnia membra langment."
ReplyDeleteThe Arch studied latin, he should get it.
Thank you 11.30pm now it makes sense. Altar servers were not cathedral altar servers but seminarians. Who ever is in charge of liturgy in RMS should be fired. Servers had no idea how to serve an ordination mass and appeared to have no self awareness.
ReplyDeleteThat is because the TABLE needs to be moved to the center of the Cathedral! First project after they pay GPA. Trash bag. The big black yard size ones.
DeleteTrash bag? Did they even put up the donation sign? They would have collected meelleeons and meelleeons at yesterday's ordination mass! Forgot..their money is not dirty, only ours is.
DeleteNeed to double check...if you make a drop into the collection box on Sundays, make sure you post on your envelops/checks...FUNDING FUND. I don't think this gets assessed for the % to the chancery. Will get back to you on this one!
Sorry meant to say Building Fund instead of Funding Fund...BUILDINGS FUNDS!!!!!
DeleteDeacon Steve for decoration, while RMS seminarians scurry around the sanctuary. Where did Jucatan get the cassock?
ReplyDeletePale Mike, God Bless you....this cancer must be exposed and removed from the BODY of Christ.
ReplyDeleteMost NEOs are "victims". We pray the Holy Spirit to open their eyes that they return to the ONE, TRUE, APOSTOLIC FAITH.
We also pray for the NEOs that spread this cancer that they too may return to Holy Mother Church.
Our Lady of Camarin pray us!
Bruce & Jesusa Williams
We need to pray that this Archdiocese of Agana Guam returns to the authentic catholic faith and spirituality of Rome. Unfortunately, Anthony Apuron has knowingly with intention led the people of God astray. We must now guide this community back to the fullness of truth in the Holy Roman Catholic Church.
ReplyDeleteWell, Tim, I hope you keep on file the comments people send to you. I do not. Back in mid may 2014, a comment appeared on a post regarding Liverpool cathedral England. A name was mentioned and I always remember names on the page. Drinking my gin and tonic this evening, yes I prefer Gilbey's gin, it goes direct to my brain cells, and makes connections. Well, I discovered a name on the page in a comment again today. His name has now been appointed to the secretary of state Vatican city. Are you and Frenchie connecting all the dots, or is it the Gin that has gone to my head. I'm already on my third Gin and Tonic. Stay tuned.
ReplyDeleteand I have a message for you Father Mike. I have the greatest respect for you because you preach a wine of truth, justice, and unity of the church. You have worked very hard to create unity among the priests, and to reach out to a bishop who obviously has no desire to create peace and unity. yes, Fr. Mike, you are a respected voice of Guam. Continue to preach the wine of truth, justice, unity, with the joy and love that you do. Do not be afraid to preach this wine, because the wine will set us all free.
ReplyDeleteWell, I'm on my fourth Gin and tonic now, I'm celebrating Our beloved Holy Father Pope Francis and the appointment of Monsignor Paul Gallagher ?
To be frank, Father Mike’s hope that the divide in this archdiocese can still be bridged through dialogue has irked me many times. However, I believe that the situation in the Archdiocese is at a point where his efforts as a mediator have been met with resistance and deaf ears.
ReplyDeleteIn the real world those who make shoddy executive decisions would have long ago been behind bars for malfeasance and misrepresentation, yet here in this archdiocese those who squander corporate resources flaunt their fluffy self-importance and wanton disregard for the will of donors.
Indeed this inane comment against Father Mike is indicative of a void between the ears of that "anonymous coward," and many more of their ilk. Father Mike, more than anyone else I know, has championed rational resolutions to a real problem. He has gone out of his way to engage the current leadership, and has rallied us priests who find ourselves in the fringes of the Archdiocesan family.
Yes, some of us are persecuted because we do not get fair and equal treatment from the spiritual leader entrusted to lead this Archdiocese. Many of us ask, why is this so? Have we done anything so heinous that we and our families are subjected to public vilification?
We are confused because we have done our duty as priests and desired nothing but respect for our labors. We have dedicated our service to the faithful Catholics of this island and yet find only crumbs dropped from flower-strewn "tables" of those who hold us in obedience to their Chancery proclamations.
Let us not be afraid to fight for our principles. Let us be willing to fight for our faith, our church or for our priests who find themselves silenced by a vindictive administration. Are we not willing to fight for your tithes that are not properly accounted for, and spent for fanciful soirees? Do we not see the farcical gesture of having a secondary seminary?
Let us see ourselves as a people with the conviction to say Enough Is Enough, and put our face on it? No longer will we tolerate those whose hypocrisy, lies and wrongdoing continue to fester on this island.
Father Efren, I am with you. Enough is enough. As if it was still in doubt that the real reason for the removal of Fr. Paul was not what was given, we find that in 1999, Mr. Joe Lastimoza served 3 years of community service at Santa Barbara. It was all right then and not in 2010-2011. Enough is enough.
ReplyDeleteFr. Efren, WE ARE WITH YOU! Just say the word absolutely we shall follow!
ReplyDeleteFr. Efren, I am with you too! And, as 8:07 writes "Just say the word absolutely we shall follow!"
ReplyDeleteThis blog is full of shit... you only post what you wanna post..
ReplyDeleteUh, obviously Tim posts what he wants to post... That's literally the point of a blog... to post what you want to post... Why would anyone create a blog to share things they don't like?
DeleteUse your brain, bro...
You wanna make accusations against Fr. Mike? Then use your name coward an I'll post them. Otherwise how was your first week as a priest?
DeleteO brave anonymous @3:33 PM: Get your own blog.
DeleteAnon 3:55.. Yup come on, put your name on your post BRO. You know nothing of anything. You are a mere puppy holding on to the tail of your PROPHET as a shield.
DeleteYour parents were probably still changing your dampers or wiping your nose when "JOY" aka NCW came into existence. Let's talk facts here!
1) X joins a community and is engaged to Y who wishes not to join. X is encouraged to bring Y into the community. Y still refuses! X is then Introduced to members of the community and paired up with the statement why don't you guys go out and see how things go. X dumps Y for Z because X is discouraged from marrying Y.
2) B I is a gay or a dike and lives under my household. I am told to cut B off because B is evil and corrupt! I will go to HELL if I do not obey!
3). X and Z get married. Godparents are not asked to be witnesses, as is customary here on island because they do not belong to the community. X and Z get their best friend from their perspective communities to be witnesses.
4). X becomes pregnant and Baptism takes place at the hotel. So naturally there is the encouragement that Baby W have NEOS as godparents.
5). Every aspect of your lives must be focused on the NEOS community.
Why? They rest of us are not in the program. Here is where you see the division in believing that only members of the communities are responsible enough and following the faith to the teeth. They rest of us are outsiders!
How many affidavits are in the hands of the KING PIN, where the material wealth of members are being signed over to? How many have neglected their ailing parents, spouses, children, etc. because the NCW comes first? How much more of a division can you people bring into our lives!
So BRO, whatever accusations you have against Pale' Mike you better be ready to defend your statements. We will be ready for you, BRO! BTW BRO, give it your best shot!
Harold is going to be a problem for this archdiocese . Never should he have been ordained a priest .
DeleteAnon 3:33 - I've been blacklisted in Diana's Blog. But, I didn't go around crying like a little girl the way you do! It all fits...you don't post your name, you cry like a girl, you appear to have no spine - You Are NOT a man! Go little one, find a skirt to get behind. Stop taking up oxygen!
DeleteBTW Howard, congrats on your ordination! Too bad Diana did not pass my coaching to you on your first homily. Wow, you have BIG teeth! Osmond related? Tu sabes que dicen las senoras con dientes grandes tienen BOCAS grandes! Perfecto para ti! Hablame tu lastima de una persona!!! Oh, maybe you should try out for a Pepsodent commercial.
DeleteThey all seem to be coming out of the same mold. Vicenzo is already a problem. Vicenzo is a classic example of poor Neo/Redemptoris Matir training and elitist mentality. He rejects the sinner and anyone that he senses is not worthy of his time and not a potential neo victim. I walk into church and he is not welcoming. He deliberately turns away. I must have a special secret non-neo candidate devil mark on my forehead.
ReplyDeleteHow do you think that rejection feels to any Santa Rita parishioner, particularly to a congregation who for many decades had Capuchin leaders who were personable, warm, loving and accepting. These neo priests stand at the pulpit and condemn those who are gay, single parents, co-habitating... Condemning members of his parish's family.
Fr. Fabio was the horrible first experience of our parish to the neo-nazi ways. He would make insensitive and ignorant comments like "God did not make Adam and Steve" and that homosexuals were psychologically flawed. Fabio's replacement seemed promising but flashes of neo thinking are coming out, I'm sure with pressure from AAA.
I've talked to many parishioners who felt the rejection and sought non neo parishes for spiritual relief and acceptance. Santa Rita parishioners are non confrontational. They've been taught to respect and love their spiritual leaders. Many are driven out of their home parish. With their accents it is easier to tune them out then to listen to their rantings, but more fulfilling seeking a non-neo parish no matter how far the drive. God help the parish Vicenzo will be going to.
Where is Fabio now? That is what happens to priests ordained with RMS. They will get themselves ordain and maybe stay for a while (3 yrs) then they wlll leave the diocese all in the name of NCW. How many NCW have been ordained for the Archdiocese and how many are in the island?.Any idea who has the number/s?
ReplyDeleteYou all here are the devil's advocates... so sad.. Tim the pastor. .. too funny
ReplyDeleteYou must be one of us, devils's advocates. ..you keep visiting and posting. ..you are the funny one...
DeleteSad reality is Apuron and his cult have built up a snobbish elitist mentality of a " new society " in the church of Guam. Tragic aspect is apuron's new society, is made up of foreigners who know nothing of our life, history and culture of am island nation. They respect not our culture, tradition, or faith. They have only used our island and resources for personal gain. Lania these NCW priests need to leave our island .
ReplyDeleteI guess we could transpose an old French adage on culture to religion.
ReplyDeleteThe adage goes like this: " Culture is like Jam, the less you have, the more you spread it"
For the neos, Catholicism is like Jam, the less they have, (and they really have little Catholicism)
the more they spread it.
What more proof do we need?
Their whole attitude, their beliefs, their gospel and their demeanor is Anti-Catholic.
The only reason they are able to be here, is because the Archbishop has lost his soul, and any iotas of self respect.
He is the paramount of duplicity, and depravity, how can he stay?
Only because we let him, his minions and his evil masters, Pius the Sam Nut, the Gennarinis, Kiko and his mistress, the defrocked nunn of the above, stay.
This is what must be stopped.
It is getting clearer and clearer by the day.
Each and every one of these demonstrations, shines another ray of light on their somber ways and on the malevolent deeds of their cult.
We all know that the thing evil fears more than anything, it is the light of truth.
So on this Sunday we should all help, in our own personal and humble way, shine that truth and expose these evil doers for what they are. Evil doers....