Criminal Enterprise, Wake way members of the Way, can you not see that you are being fleeced? Has there been any accounting of your contributions? (Involuntary made to feel guilty) Where is all this money going to Kiko et al. Have you see the size of his retreat center in Jerusalem? Dem and an accounting.. Do something, you have a right to know where your money is going; Do not be blind sheep following the voice of Pius.
A Neo community of fifteen forks out an average of $45,000.00 for the catechist' s yearly travel expense. Shoot, it will be better if the fifteen community members treat themselves to a nice vacation instead of handing money over to the catechist. After all, it's their hard earned money.
But Felix, here's the deal: members usually have to ask their catechists for permission to take off-island vacations, or at least, "run it by the catechist(s)". Three different members have told me this. After all, if one has enough money to take an off-island vacation, one better be putting her fair share into the trash bag every month.
The permission might need to be secured from the community's responsibles.
Even who to marry...you have to ask permission from your catechist. Even where you work, the catechist can tell you to leave.
Second Scrutiny - the Rite of Money Laundering
Kiko read Deuteronomy chapter 14: especially verses 24, 25 and 26Tithes22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.
Thank you Chuck! You’ve been bringing out so many neo practices and misinterpretations of our Faith to light. They are not only are oppositions to Church Teachings but are definitely characteristics of a Cult. Please continue sharing.We don’t need “statutes” to prove the authenticity of our local Catholic Church. We have the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and the Real Presence of Our Lord and our God in the Consecrated Host. That we pay homage to and adore our God and Creator demonstrates our reverence and worship of HIM in the posture and gesture we assume because of His physical presence in The Holy Eucharist: and that identifies our Catholicity. The Authority for matters of Faith and Moral that we follow come from our Magisterium a successor of Peter, the first Pope appointed by Jesus Christ; not Kiko. The Catholic Faith doesn’t require anyone to go thru grueling stages of “scrutiny” after “scrutiny” to prove our worth to become members and then, to still not be guaranteed membership approval by an individual appointed as “The catechist.” Why, even a baby is readily baptized and welcomed as a member! Our Church in fact, welcomes everyone willing to be baptized Catholic. The Sacraments of initiation received by all Catholics suffices. No one in the authentic Church becomes designated as one’s “responsible” or one’s “catechist” to whom one has to personally answer and report to (once reception of the Sacraments of initiation are received); instead, we answer, only, to our One Triune God.The authenticity of our local Church is in its affiliation to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church traced to the biblical period and time of Jesus Christ our Founder, more than 2000 years ago. The word “neo” means “new,” “recent,” “revived,” “modern” even “modified”! To the faithful, these 2 things already raises red flags because it is an indication that the “neo” (“new”) religion holds teachings that are other than the 2000 year old authentic Faith Teachings of Jesus Christ.Here’s two simply common sense examples to consider about our local Catholic Church’ authenticity compared to this Catholic-wanna-be neos’ claim that they are as Catholic as one can be: first, the fact that this Neo (“New”) religion and church is founded by 2 fellow members of our fallen human race (Kiko and his female cohort, Carmen) compared to our Faith’s Founder, Jesus Christ. The second is the origin of the Neo faith which is traced to a time (within our life-time, even!) and period of communal living, and the prevalence of the ideology of “free-thinking” which ushered in the “hippie” generation. Yet, today many intelligent and educated local Catholics were easily emotionally-swayed by this novelty religion of the neo-catechumenate, and thus placed great credence and reverence for a religion which, no doubt was influenced by and sprouted in the midst of the era of the “flower power” mind of the 1960’s! Kiko’s religion focuses on CONTROL, FEAR and OUTRIGHT BRAINWASHNG methods forcing members to relinquish property, money and estate. A religion which spells C U L T, loud and clear!
The question is not what the neo is giving or what white is giving...what are you giving freely from your heart
No, no, Anon 7:25PM. whether "you are giving freely from your heart" is not the only question. Christians pursuing an adult faith are allowed to ask many questions, for example, "Where does the money go?" or "Are we being robbed?". The good news is that we are starting to get answers to those questions, and we are sharing the answers with many people around the globe. Courage!
Anon 7:25pm 9-22-15 "Tough love" is hard to detect. To apply it sometimes requires bringing up relevant facts and issues which may be harder yet to swallow.
With all this baloney, Fr. Pius still insists that God makes no demands...
They know very well that it's the talk that presses the buttons of the hierarchies, not the walk (which mere us are the butts of, who don't matter). Doctrines that are lip service and which frankly are very typical Catholic-sounding will always pass muster from "doctrinal authorities".Whilst undermining the genuine helping and faith-sustaining pastoral role of the clergy, they highlight the pedestal facet and when ordinary punters are attracted to the "initial catechesis" and even for years afterwards, we don't know the difference, and the hierarchies conveniently forget it, after all, they think it highly approvable to be placed on this pedestal.After my whole life on the fringes with my attempts at faith - and those of various acquaintances who had to operate off the parish bulletin - it looked superficially a good thing that "church authorities" were behind something for a change.My diocese this very week appointed yet another officer to help families of (mainly school) children up for sacraments - but still nothing for everybody else.This pinpoints the biggest theft of all from the Church that needed us - the real Church was robbed of individuals like me, our talents and personalities, with the connivance of those who suppressed collaborative ministry (as per the four good chapters of Easter People) in 1980. Folks like me don't have a crown and others have not been built up because of the time I sacrificed to this edifice with its forged approvals.If enough people are in on a forgery, it gets declared not a forgery - why didn't we think of it before!
Thank you, Austin, for all you do, write, and have done.You are a bright light, as a survivor who has escaped from the clutches of the NCW Cult, even after years of submission. You are an inspiration, to the far corners of the world.Happy Christmas!
Here's an English translation of a post taken from our friends in Italy, right on topic!A collection today? Reach for your wallet, brothers!We tell them, the "deepest secrets of the catechumenate"-The monthly collection for the tithe-the monthly community fees collection-The monthly collection for convivences-the collection for the last convivence-the collection for the furnishings of the room-the collection for the maintenance costs of the smaller rooms (heating, air conditioning, etc.).-the collection for [Kiko's] Convivence with the Rabbis ("... given the great success we achieved, we will try to do it every year")-the collection for baptisms, confirmations, weddings -the collection for Easter palms and restaurant (dinner is at six, but ... at 6:00 am)-the collection for the passage (catechists free)-the collection during the Shema (precious jewelry and real estate is accepted)-the collection for dinner at the restaurant after certain passages (catechists free)-the collection to give catechists (see above)-the collection to write off debts of the various communities' convivences-the collection for the white robe and the bowl encrusted with semiprecious stones-the collection for the second baptism in Israel (requires a Bank loan)-the collection for the spiritual marriage in Israel (see above)-the collection to buy the text of the Statute-the collection to buy El Kerygma (ie salvation surcharge)-the collection for operating expenses from the Domus -the collection for the tour of Kiko's Orchestra"The Lord (Mr. Kiko) be with you ..."-the collection for routine events (many ...)-the collection for evangelization (?)-the collection for the travel of seminarians-the collection for the travel of the families of seminarians-the collection on the occasion of a seminarian's priestly ordination-the collection for the Convivence of assorted prelates at the Domus-the collection for Itinerant-the collection for the costs of Redemptoris Mater seminaries-the collection for the trips Saint Kiko (including helicopter)All we need is the collection for the collections and reach perfection in fleecing the next ones.These are "the deepest secrets of the catechumenate"; heresies, blunders, weird liturgies that don't seem to fool anyone.The Money, the song of Saint Kiko!(from: The Apostate and Elvio)
Per "Deep Throat," follow the money
The NCW is a High Demand Movement. If you propose to attend less often, there are those who will pick a quarrel with you and throw their weight around while doing so. Besides the theft of 28 years of lives, there is the theft of credence. Besides those, there is the theft of integrity when one witnesses for example couples that practice NFP getting verbally abused and one doesn't get round to defending them vocally then and there (it's thought "rebellious" to interrupt). Besides these things, there is money.I often gave very little and would just about pay my way at meals and hotel stays. There have almost certainly been variations by locality and time which "aids" deniability. The lack of accounting is the huge, overriding red flag. The collection at my Second Scrutiny was "reputedly" given to local individuals in some form of need but unwisely and without the supervision of a responsible-minded, regularly constituted charitable committee (too large amounts, too few people, probable favouritism). In view of the credence issues the collections for so-called "evangelisation", proceedings at Domuses, RMSs, travel for anyone above local "community" level, capers with robes, etc etc, are completely disreputable.My old parish priest and my itinerants, and some of the "community" members and their families, continue various questionable activities in association with problematic individuals. Not only the NCW but in fact the entire Roman Catholic Church hierarchy everywhere (of which the NCW is a caricature), lacks effective feedback channels which is why this linen is being washed in public.
Another kind of theft - the theft from impressionable persons of their homelands - I have now got to hear of lots of unfortunate people deprived of their familiar and rightful surroundings and original livelihoods and pushed from pillar to post amidst poverty and harsh conditions by the suggestiveness of itinerants ("seminarians", "families in mission").I often didn't give a tithe and if I did, I often asked for it back for cash flow reasons. On those occasions I mostly got it back though not always. Now I think the "responsibles" and itinerants decide on a person-by person basis how to "play" an issue, with me they probably trod carefully to not alert me. The bottom line is, I'm kicking myself for not asking for frequent accounting, i.e could they say what proportion of the take was redistributed to members in need? And don't forget that there are all the other dubious collections we've mentioned. The expenses of the jet-setting, the flying-saucer shaped buildings, the wining and dining of international scholars, etc etc had to come from somewhere.
Kiko and his brain-dead Neocat groupies remind me of Jim Jones and the ill-fated People's Temple.
A strategy employed by the NCW is to "buy" the support of the local Bishop, by giving the Bishop a big donation from this money. The NCW "priest" takes the "donation" to the Bishop then uses this gesture to promote NCW propaganda to the Bishop, so that the NCW can continue to operate in the Diocese. I call this strategy bribery.
Sounds like the NCW is a mafia organization. Extracting money from underlings and redistributing as they see fit, mostly to feed their lavish appetites for all temporal goodies. Pretty disgusting that this is happening and no one seems able to do anything about it.Shouldn't the FBI be called in to look at the money laudering aspect and RICO type activity?Al Capone was a notorious criminal that was never convicted of his many crimes. It was finally a tax evasion charge that stuck and sent him to jail. Seems like John Camacho at Rev and Tax should send his auditors to look at a huge source of unreported money. The organization may be tax exempt because it rides on the coattails of the Church, but no individual has that tax exemption.
Archbishop Byrnes: do not take the neos money. Their money is tainted. Dirty.
apuron OUT... apuron OUT... apuron OUT... apuron OUT... apuron OUT...Consider this article on temporal goods, then consider the amount of compromised clergy like apuron in any given diocese around the world wherein the ncw are operating in...For now I'll comment on "§ 2"... after decades we learned and found out we have been financially supporting the rms playpen, the mission mooch families, and the international boboy travel club... So I'm sure there is more than material goods that have yet to be discovered regarding this apuron/ncw enterprises... it seems that erections are tony's first love, so maybe he also erected diocesan foolness foundation... Art. 4 [Temporal goods]§ 1. The Neocatechumenal Way, being an itinerary of Catholic formation that is implemented in the dioceses through services freely given, has no material goods of its own.§ 2. When in a diocese it is considered useful to financially support initiatives and activities for the evangelization realized through the Neocatechumenal Way, the diocesan bishop, at therequest of the International Responsible Team of the Way, will consider the suitability of erecting an autonomous diocesan foundation, with juridical personality, regulated by its ownstatutes, which will also be recognized by the civil authorities. This may also be supported by oblatory donations made by participants in the Neocatechumenal Way, as well as by foundationsand other individuals.§ 3. In the communities, collections are made to answer different needs. It is the task of the responsible team of the community and of the responsible teams of the Way at every level, to ensure that such collections are administered with a great sense of responsibility and respect for the law.apuron OUT... apuron OUT... apuron OUT... apuron OUT... apuron OUT...
Thank you, Chuck, for this great piece. The NCW is a well-designed money laundering enterprise that is ripe for vulnerable Catholics. There are many issues that irk me about NCW’s illegal acquisition of wealth but a couple keep revisiting in my mind. The first is about the mechanism of NCW to necessarily attach itself to a diocese, then to a parish in order to thrive. I imagine a parasitic relationship between the NCW and a diocese where the NCW (the parasite) lives off of another organism, a diocese (the host) harming it and possibly causing death. The parasite lives on or in the body of the host. That sounds like the Archdiocese of Agana and the Guam’s NCW. The second relates to the local bishop. To be able to establish its program in a diocese, the NCW has to be allowed to do so by the local bishop. To get this permission to attach itself to a diocese is the “oxygen” the NCW needs to set-up yet another money laundering branch (which they call “community”). Is it safe to assume that bishops who allow the NCW in their dioceses receive kick-backs of some form from the NCW? For Guam and Abp Apuron, we know this case is true. With its reputation as a program that teaches heresies on key Catholic doctrines and one which is a money laundering operation that lacks accounting records, a bishop should be embarrassed (at the very least) to have an NCW program in its diocese. A bishop protects the Faithful in his diocese which includes protecting the Faithful in his diocese from the NCW.