Friday, June 13, 2014

BEHIND THE CHANCERY WALLS - ERRATUM 2.0


The outrage over Tim Rohr's obtaining a copy of Cardinal Tagle's letter has reached fever pitch and is producing the most incredible accusations: evil scheme, international plot, even collusion with Freemasonry. Wow! 

The reason for the outrage of course is that for weeks the kiko's (militant neos) were taking great glee in the fact that someone so important as Cardinal Tagle, the archbishop of one of the largest dioceses in the world, had personally invited not only the one and only Kiko Arguello to Manila but that the Neo communities of Guam had been personally invited as well. 

They were taking great glee in this for the same reason they take great glee in even the tiniest clerical gestures of kindness and support: validation for their movement (yes it's a movement). But it's not a happy glee, rather, more often than not, it was a vicious glee, an in-your-face, see-I-told-you-so glee. And in the days leading up to the event, the vicious din grew louder, especially when the authenticity of the supposed special invite began to be challenged.

The revelation that their invite had been a fraud was a shot right through the artificial balloon that their leaders had allowed them to inflate all on their own. And because I posted the letter, I am the evil one.

But let's back up. What if I had not posted the letter? The Erratum in the U Matuna would had the same effect. Here is what it said:
The May 18 issue of the U Matuna Si Yu'os reported that Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle, D.D., Archbishop of Manila, had invited initiators of the NeoCatechumenal Way to hold a Vocational Meeting with the youth of the Philippines on June 6. That information on page 2 is incorrect. In fact, the Neocatechumenal Way organized the event, and they invited Cardinal Tagle to preside over the meeting. Incorrect information was provided in a story submitted to the U Matuna Si Yu'os.
The Erratum, albeit inadequate and unapologetic, still would have proven that the invitation was a fraud. So who would you have blamed then? Would you have demanded from Jennifer Dulla answers to questions like what did you know and when did you know it? Would you have demanded that Ms. Dulla reveal her source? Would you have accused her of an evil scheme, international plot, collusion with the Masons?

The header from the email sent to Ms. Dulla and the U Matuna staff shows that Ms. Dulla knew the truth as of May 30. The header shows that the letter, though addressed to Dulla, was sent to the editor and the executive director of the U Matuna, since their contact information is what is provided in the U Matuna, and which was the appropriate thing to do anyway. And since it was addressed to Dulla, we must assume that the editor notified Dulla immediately. 


Now follow this closely: The U Matuna becomes publicly available on Friday evenings. The correction would be available in print and for public consumption as early as June 6. Ms. Dulla had the letter a full one week before. So why didn't she tell you? Given that all of you were going to be majorly embarrassed, why did she just let you string yourselves out like that for a whole week?

I will tell you why. She was following orders. But WHOSE orders? And why would they withhold this information from you? I will tell you why. The big event with Kiko was scheduled for June 6. To let everyone know before that date would have been a major shot in the gut. 

For weeks many had been planning and saving and raising funds, getting time off of work, organizing babysitters, purchasing airplane tickets, arranging for places to stay in the Manila area, etc., etc, etc., all under the pretense that THEY, the Neocatechumenal communities from Guam, had been personally invited by the Cardinal of Manila to meet with the founder of their beloved Way

But the fact is that there was NO invitation. It had been manufactured by SOMEONE in Guam to artificially hype the event. The Cardinal was not supposed to find out that his name was used. Oops! 

Upon receiving Cardinal Tagle's letter, the order came down from SOMEONE not to say anything. Everyone would be safely in Manila by June 6 when the inconspicuous Erratum would be printed and it would all blow over by the time the pilgrims returned. 

So here are the facts:

  • SOMEONE manufactured the story.
  • Jennifer Dulla learned that it was a manufactured story on May 30.
  • She did not tell you.
  • The U Matuna was released BEFORE I posted the letter. 
  • The letter only verified what was ALREADY in the U Matuna. 
  • It was Jennifer Dulla and the staff of the U Matuna/Chancery who allowed you to be embarrassed.

If I had not posted the letter, the Erratum alone would have proved that all the vicious, in-your-face, see-I-told-you-so glee over being invited to Manila by Cardinal Tagle would have been proved to be based on a lie ANYWAY. 

But no one is asking the people who knew the truth before I did why did they NOT tell you? Why did they leave you out in the cold? Why did they let the lie live? Why did they turn their backs on you when they knew you were going to take the fall? And why, even now, do they hide behind the walls of the chancery while you destroy yourselves in print. 

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the real fruits of the Neocatechumenal Way: BEHIND THE CHANCERY WALLS. 

52 comments:

  1. speaking of masons... best quote evah -
    "...C’mon folks, this is Jehova Witness stuff filled with calvanism and a touch of Masonic mind control. And according to former members, very few of the followers know the truth, since to get through all of the training (indoctrination) can take upwards of twenty years. Just like Masons, the locals are doing good works, unaware of the actual designs and demonics of the leadership. ..." Capt. Morgen @ Fr.Z's
    http://wdtprs.com/blog/2012/01/benedict-xvi-the-neocats-and-their-liturgy/#comment-318588

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  2. Ironically SOME of these Kiko Neo seem to breed Hitlers (Neo) ideology:

    "It is not truth that matters, but victory" (Hitler)

    "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it" (Hitler)


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  3. I propose a suggestion! If you feel in your heart and believe in what you are standing for, then I suggest that you start documenting everything. If you are not walking the way and feel you are being pressured to join, document it and give your reasons. If you have been required to do things in which you do not believe in, but do it out of fear, document it.

    Do not forget to include, who is involved, who said what, time and date, the event involved and what had happened. Only YOU can prove the happenings through documentation. I am not suggesting that it be sent to the Nuncio, but documentations are always good to have!

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    1. Members asked to take on more high notice position in their parish. Techa, etc. move to legitimize. A little too late Kiko's.

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  4. Another LIE stated about the meeting at the Chancery yesterday. Can someone provide the Archbishop's letter! Post from Diana

    AnonymousJune 13, 2014 at 1:27 AM
    Tim has been proven wrong on many occasions, he just doesnt allow those comments to ever see the day. Tim doesnt allow comments that compromise him or his blog. I have made numerous comments that were not allowed. Things are a bit crazy now, all because of him.
    There was a clergy meeting held today at the chancery. This meeting was not called by the Archbishop but by a group of priests that saw the need for it. Guess what was the overall subject? Yep! you guessed it.
    Tim has gotten in over his head and he is at a point of no return. He is being reckless and mindless of his comments. It is very evident and sadly the only people following him are of his kind. The church on Guam does not need to worry about the damage of jw. There is no damage because the deceit is in the lie that jw represents the majority of catholics on Guam. It doesnt, and the blog owner knows this. The vast majority of catholics on guam are catholics by birth. They have no real concept of their faith. Many priests(non-neo) speak of these catholics who are "seasonal" christmas, easter, thanksgiving etc.. This is why the other denominations are rising. They are going door to door and reaching out to the people all the while we have a group of people who are busy with their veils and staring at the rear of a priest. I dont have a problem with this but I mention it because this is not what the times are seeking. Then tim would brag that, there are a strong young group of people who are patronizing the latin rite. Well, that same great group of young people are being given guns and not being taught how to use them. For example, I was in the presence of a conversation between a Latin Traddie and a woman who attends a Baptist church on-island. This woman was interested in experiencing the Catholic Faith and had just shared her admiration for the sacraments, she more so spoke about how she really wanted to go to confession. Well, without the need to even go there, this young gentleman Traddie decided to call out the Baptist church on all their flaws. What an approach to evangelization! I already knew where he learned it from. The young baptist woman, well how would you feel?
    You see Tim is calling out the Archbishop and anyone associated with the NCW on Guam with criticisms and exclaiming that these are issues only associated with the NCW. Everytime things are pointed out to him that are obviously in favor of the NCW, he doesnt allow the comment.
    Anyways, the jw blog has taken a turn for the worse and has fallen in line with all the other bogus blogs out there. Joy!

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    1. After reading cardinal tagle letter I now understand Tims concerns. Archbishop has lied , continues to lie, and as facts are revealed has lied to us often. Archbishop is not honest with his own blood. Sad period in Guam history.

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    2. Priests meeting was known but the clergy asked for it to be private so no comments were sent in. Was shocked to see that someone in the chancery made the post today informing. Goes to show someone in the chancery enters the jungle. The action itself shows the problems existing in the chancery. No long a respected chancery. It is a joke. Archbishop is a joke if the evil intention was not so evil.

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    3. They are afraid of me. Wonder why?

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  5. AnonymousJune 13, 2014 at 8:19 AM Are you serious? It's a religious charism not corporate organization. You have gone mad.... Would you do the same for the Knight of the Columbus? Irrelevant, dumb suggestion. NEXT

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    1. Hey, some of us are pressured into doing things we don't want to! The NCW. Should not make people feel intimidated! The KOC do not pressure nor do any other organizations! The NCW and the RMS priest pressure and intimidate! Documentations!

      I for one feel like a worm being used for fish bait! So you know what you can do with yourself. I hate to spell it out for you!

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  6. True. Serious concerns in the Guam chancery. Chancery is corrupt almost evil intention to destroy good men in the priesthood and the church.

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  7. Everyone would be safely in Manila by June 6 when the inconspicuous Erratum would be printed and it would all blow over by the time the pilgrims returned. Tim, did you see Arch and Pius so uncomfortable and squirming in their seats of honor? Speaks volumes.

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    1. Didn't see. Didn't watch. Kudos to you guys who can put up with massive insults to the intelligence.

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  8. Everyone here in the Jungle respected the privacy of the Meeting of Priest Council and Archbishop...look who barges right in. Figures.

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    1. Whomever wrote on Diana's blog about the meeting must have had inside info from those present at this meeting! I have priests who are close friends, but never once do we discuss the meetings. From this post one can assume that the leak was a NEO Priest or Deacon! Who could it be?

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    2. 10.36 your correct. Slowly they reveal their own hell to the world. Chancery created so much hell, hell is removal of God, so lies evolved one after the other. Now so many lies chancery does not know how to manage the situation. New lies almost every week. Problem is in the chancery. Already see who Diana is. Don't you think that is sic.

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    3. It was implied on "Diana's" Blog that the meeting was about excommunicating Tim Rohr. I went back to try to copy the statement from "her" blog and I could not find it. I think it might have been deleted.

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    4. Deleting comments seems to be standard practice on his/her blog, but they only delete when they realize that they revealed the truth about their lie, or someone else points it out. They won't publish the readers comment as we'll. They also delete when they realize that they said some things out of anger that showed their true colors. At least those practices help us point out their lack of integrity and dishonesty. I've every comment on JW and I can't recall a time I ever wondered what happened to the comment that was posted earlier. Just my observation... Anyone else?

      I was thinking that we should just ignore the Diana blog cause nothing will change there. Let's boycott that blog no matter what they post. Do not recognize them by responding. Let them shower themselves with their vomit. We should stick to pointing out the facts. If there is a comment from that blog that needs to be addressed, then just comment on the topic without referring to that junk blog.

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  9. I have posted on DIANA blog. NONE of my non agressive POINTS were ever posted. Boo, hoo.

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  10. Evil intention has been in the chancery for many years. It is only now climate has changed social media allows people to express truth. Chancery has destroyed people for years and frankly it is time truth prevail and archbishop and his friends stop this abuse.

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  11. Unless the archbishop arranges to meet those he has damaged and offer an apology then it is going to get painful. All it takes is him to apologize. Archbishop must respect the diocesan sons of Guam.

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  12. Tim Rohr is not over his head. Tim Rohr is confirming truth we have always known. Tim Rohr just gave us inspiration that we have to make a stand in the church for truth and justice. Had priests and laity acted twenty years ago dioceses today would not be selling properties to pay victims. We will not stand by and watch archbishop Apuron and his friends destroy this local church. We can lead the fight for the next seven years but it will be painful for the chancery.

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    1. AnonymousJune 13, 2014 at 10:35 AM TIM Rohr let you swallow his VENOM and vomit in all mix to one. I'm inspired also and prayed also. GOD said fight back and protect.

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    2. 12:20PM. Did he also tell you to stay a coward?

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    3. 12.20pm. Sad statement.

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    4. 12.20pm. Do men who pray write as you do .

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  13. Archdiocese of Agana Guam USA
    Archdiocese in Moral Decay.

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    1. Moral decay is a worrying term.

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  14. Go back to Denver where you belong.

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    1. He should return to Denver he is not wanted here.

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  15. Arcdiocese is not in moral decay. Archdiocese is being attacked by five people causing so much trouble.

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    1. Five people? And who, pray tell, are the five on your list?

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    2. Not my list dear. Now an international composed list.

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    3. Archdioce is in moral, financial, and intellectual decay.

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  16. Was agreed priests meeting was private. Someone inside the chancery gave the information out. Why because the contents which only afew knew behind closed doors is now public. Diana you need a vacation stop drinking the juice it is not good for the mind.

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    1. And I still don't know what it is other than they agreed to work on their differences. What's the big news?

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  17. It's true. I don't have a clue what Diana is talking about. Diana pleas tell us what was said at the meeting that has me in over my head. Please...

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  18. @11:05am : Archdiocese being attacked by five people? Name them!
    1. Archbishop
    2. Fr. Adrian
    3. Monsignor David C. Quitugua
    4. Fr. Pius
    5. Kiko Arguello

    Obviously you're on the inside looking out over the sunset view. This Archdiocese has fallen apart, thanks to the kikos like you!
    At another commenter somewhere on this blog - instead of telling Tim to find another US territory to live, why don't YOU go back to where you came from? Neos be gone!
    And by the way, this is not a hate message...just tired of your arrogant, wanna be everything attitude!
    Peace!

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    1. AnonymousJune 13, 2014 at 11:34 AM Archdiocese has not fallen apart is YOU has fallen apart from disobedience and malign judgement toward the clergies. WHO are you to pass this judgement. SHAME on YOU! If destroyed, you blame yourself! YOU KNOW BETTER than the CLERGY and GOD obviously!

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    2. You forgot to mention Father Alberto as a backup! You didn't do your homework thoroughly. BTW Deacon Claros may be considered an alternate! After all Kiko and Pius may not be here physically at least Kiko never will be!

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    3. Pius is here quite a bit. Anyway, he's on the payroll. Ours.

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    4. Yes. 12:18. I am from the Los Angeles Archdiocese where for thirty years we kept our obedience and our judgement to ourselves while our pastors helped themselves to little boys. Yes. Shame on us for finally getting fed up with it and "passing judgement" on that evil . And then guess what. WE, not the priests, not the bishops, WE had to pay $600 million dollars while priest went off to summer camp in New Mexico and the likes of Mahoney retires in plush surroundings in North Hollywood. The same will happen here. The people will be forced to pay for their "obedience." And many already have. Jus ask...

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    5. Oh, and by the way 12:18. Have I told you my SNAP story?

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    6. Barbara Dorris told us!

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    7. One serious issue in the chancery is Fr.Adrian. Not sure even if the archbishops is completely aware of his actions. Time will tell. Not much love for him from the clergy that is for sure.

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  19. 12. 18pm. Clergy are united for truth justice integrity.

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  20. Vatican investigation into this whole situation is in order. Archdiocese cannot continue as it now is.

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  21. Archbishop please reclaim control of our archdiocese or we will take action which will be painful for you. We will open the past and it will be painful for you and the region.

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    1. Don't be so dramatic. Out with this past stuff. Can't get much worse. Spit it out, already.

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    2. Fr. pius is paid by archdiocese along with all his travel. Yearly he costs us around 25,000 USD. If you x by four 100,000 USD a year for these guys to cause disunity.

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  22. 3.27pm. It gets worse as it is abuse.

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  23. 12.18pm. Foolish person.

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