Sunday, October 4, 2015

FURTHER ASSISTANCE FOR J. (JOHN) BAUTISTA & "CALL ME TONY"

Continued from previous post.

You see, John, Diana lays out the central problem and witnesses to it. You and Diana simply belong to a different church. Face it. Here's why.


In the Catholic Church, the real one, magisterial authority passes from pope to bishop to pastor. As Diana demonstrates here, your magisterial authority passes from pope to Kiko to catechist. 


For you, there is no bishop. And despite all of your side's protestations about our side's disrespect of the bishop, the fact is: YOU COMPLETELY LEAVE HIM OUT

So you see, John. There is NO BISHOP in the Neocatechumenal Way. Bishops are just useful props for Kiko. In fact, John, to the Neocatechumenal Way, our own "bishop" is nothing more than "Tony", as you call him here:


Diana further illustrates the NOTHINGNESS of the bishop in this admonition to a commenter:


Do you see the problem, John? You don't? Here. Let me help you.

The bishop is the "first steward" of the liturgy in his diocese.



Lay people have no business writing "the Holy See" when they have a complaint about the liturgy. The "fullness" of that authority resides with the bishop. Yet it doesn't even occur to Diana that he should be consulted about it. That's because Archbishop Apuron is only the useful prop: "Tony." And that is exactly how you treat him by completely bypassing his authority. 

Of course, we HAVE consulted him about it. And as per the counter in the right side bar, and as of today, it has been 293 days since he said he would "find it." 

Now, John, either "Tony"(your name for him) simply LIED to us (because it doesn't exist and he knows it), or he, as a bishop, is seriously inept at keeping track of documents critical to the celebration of the liturgy and is a really bad "steward." 

But to the point. The Neocatechumenal Way is NOT a Catholic "way" simply because - as both you and Diana demonstrate here - it has a hierarchy separate from what Jesus set up: Peter and the Apostles, the Pope and the bishops, which is why our Church is "apostolic" and yours ISN'T!

But truly, and this is a big LOL. The poor fools over on your side never tire of criticizing our so-called lack of respect for the archbishop. However, we still recognize him as one, a bad one for sure, but still a bishop. 

You don't even do that. To you he's a nothing. A "Tony." 

12 comments:

  1. Well said tim. This NCW is NOT the Catholic Way but more a nuisance flock that is all talk with NOTHING to support the lies they preach.

    My question to them is "why couldn't they start their own religion separate from the real Catholic Church? Why try to divide the Catholic Church in the manner they have done?"

    Its sad how this archdiocese is falling apart. Even today at the cathedral, with all the repair work being done, the roof still leaks. To me, our church is shedding its tears because of the division the NCW has caused. AAA is a lost leader who has lost his WAY. Only the Lord can save his soul. But I'll continue to pray that our faithful can regain our Catholic Church back to the way it used to be before the NCW worked its Way into the archdiocese.

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  2. The archbishop has been off-island for quite some time. Does anyone know when he will be returning from the Synod of Bishops in Rome? Will he be back in time for his own Nov. 1st birthday?

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    1. He is back as of Thursday the 1st. His brother passed away.

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  3. Drove by Chalan Pago this morning on my way to Mass. Is there a missing Prespyter by any chance? Saw many a car pulling in then pulling out. Just asking.

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  4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4oqss84xxU

    Vocation meeting Philly. Listen to 4.02:43....Bring the collection to me!

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    1. Give the collection to meeeeeeeee! ThatzA biggA collection. Bring it home to to Carmen.

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    2. Did you watch the video? What did you think of the boys called up for vocation and at the end when they tried or were touching Kiko, he seemed to be brushing them away.?

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    3. In my opinion they were hurting him. He is fragile, slowed way down, no voice I think he brushed them away from fear. Just my impression of the moment. Oh, how many of those boys were 8 or 10 years old?

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    4. Looked like all of them were between 8-10!

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  5. Dear Anon,
    The Archbishop is indeed off island, but he is not a participant of the Synod on the family in Rome which started yesterday Sunday October 4th.
    He was indeed in Rome for some private auditions prior to his going to the Papal visit in the USA last week.
    May be you should ask the Vicar General of Archdiocese to publish his agenda. In most diocese, the press office, usually openly publishes that kind of information.
    There are only 5 representatives of the Oceania and CEPAC Region who are attending the Synod, outside of the officials from the Pacific that do attend as member of the Curia, and/or invited commissions.
    Archbishop Apuron is not one of them.

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    1. As if there aren't enought troubles at thr Synod without having to deal with call me Tony. Jeeez

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    2. Will OJ stay with him or jump ship? Harold is on Guam.

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