The parishes are receiving thousands of dollars in bills from a French publishing company for something they did not order: the Jubilee book, i.e. Apuron's legacy in hardcover.
A "foreign guy" is personally delivering the bills.
A "foreign guy" is personally delivering the bills.
Pastors (except for Apuron's pets) are being caught off guard. They had no input into this. The "foreign guy" is simply showing up at parish offices and presenting the bill.
Apparently this is the punishment for those "bad pastors" who did not "meet their quota" for the Appeal.
Apparently this is the punishment for those "bad pastors" who did not "meet their quota" for the Appeal.
Obviously this STINKS of NEO.
Note to parishes
DO NOT PAY. RETURN TO SENDER. You are being billed by a company for something you did not order. They have no legal right to demand payment.
How stupid. Had Apuron billed the parishes there probably would be little they could do. But by letting this stupid NEO company do his dirty work, every parish billed directly by the publisher is on a legal footing to DENY PAYMENT.
Obviously this is a desperate attempt by Apuron to fund his RMS boy-toy playpen.
Every pastor has a right not only to refuse payment, but to appeal to Rome. Sadly, most pastors will probably just pay the bill to keep the archbishop off their backs. And that's what he's counting on. But remember, pastors. Remember where that money came from. It's not yours.
Certain info on this invoice has been redacted for obvious reasons.
Every pastor has a right not only to refuse payment, but to appeal to Rome. Sadly, most pastors will probably just pay the bill to keep the archbishop off their backs. And that's what he's counting on. But remember, pastors. Remember where that money came from. It's not yours.
Certain info on this invoice has been redacted for obvious reasons.
The publisher is
And here's the payment instructions. SMH!
Morning has broken!
ReplyDeletewow, i haven't looked at the blog for a couple of weeks, and obviously i've missed quite a bit! and it seems apuron is still descending, eh? i hope this all ends soon, and in a good way for the faithful of guam.
ReplyDeleteEditions du Signe seems to be a pretty fancy company. Nothing but the best! Call me Tony!
DeleteThe AUDACITY! They don't miss a trick, do they?
ReplyDeleteOh well, we'll be seeing smoke from the chancery again with the burning of the Jubilee books dumped at the entrance.
Smells of the same trick that's been used to take parish money and use it to pay off-island Kiko relative to design neo churches. After all, Guam has no architects and engineers and now apparently has no print shops. Really, the manner in which the archbishop and his supporters use to take money from the parishes that did not order these books is nauseating! Enough already!
DeleteArchie and his merry men continue to laugh all the way to the bank. There's still meeellions and meeellions of dollars on Guam to be had by the Kikonuts. Guam is good!
DeleteNow that you are fully awake. anon 11:14 Clear your sleepy eyes to see how our parishes are again skinned alive by Apuron. Why are these books published in France. Guam and the US are not good enough. Sorry, I have to assume it has to do with the Neo connection. Enough!!
ReplyDeleteOh, I've been fully awake! I'm just wondering if the Parish priests' were aware of what is to come down. I believe that if this was the case the Parish finance council would have had an input on the matter.
DeleteSend the books back to the ONE who master minded this Jubilee book! I for one wouldn't buy or support nything that was initiated by the Archbishop.
As far as I am concerned, the $$$s are all this MAN thinks of when it comes to the RMS seminarians/NCW. Have him sell it to the families and friends of those in the seminary.
Esta yu' empåchu nu i kombalåche! (I'm fed up with this s**t).
You're right Tim. No need for parishes to pay a penny for what they did not order. For all we know this is just a scam. Did pastors get any instructions from a trusted source. Oh, wait. We cannot find any trusted sources at the Chancery. Never mind...refuse to pay. Let the kikos pass a trash bag around again.
ReplyDeleteClap clap.
BTW - what is a approximate amount. If it's $25 I won't worry. But if its thousands of dollars for each parish this is serious abuse of fiscal responsibility by Tony and his crack team of thieves.
It's thousands of dollars.
DeleteSo parishes are given a bill for 600 books for them to pay. Books are sold 30.00 each, when they sell the books are they again given to the thieves on the hill?? What a piece of work. So desperate for $$$$$. Please Lord let this end soon.
DeleteFlo B.
Books will run anywhere from $35 to $65 per book depending on the parish because of the shipping costs and related promotional materials.
Delete$30.00, already being sold at the churches!
DeleteAlready half price! Cool
DeleteWire transfer best way to pay. Thanks for information. Monsieur !!!! Frenchie, a relative??? Seriously, birthday boy? Hand delivered? Mighty strange. Thanks, Tim.
ReplyDeleteYes, wire transfers: the preferred method of Internet scammers and those who prey on the innocent, the aged and the unwary!
DeleteToy-boy playpen...RMS circle jerk with Apuron as the pivot man.
ReplyDeleteI believe the term is boy-toy.
DeleteTrue. I 69'd it
DeleteExtortion! That's what it is. Another Neo racket. Are the feds keeping tabs on them or are the feds asleep?
ReplyDeleteThere will be thousands leftover...just like his CDs.....sorry. : )
ReplyDeleteThe book is such an old idea. Too bad Archie would forget the book and invite the poor of Guam to celebrate at the best tables. AND, give all your envelopes to the same. That would be a happy jubilee for all.
ReplyDeleteWhat else to burden the Parishes? So kind and benevolent a Bishop. A true Saint in our midst. And persecuted too.
ReplyDeleteSimple solution for all the faithful. REFUSE TO PAY AND RETURN TO SENDER. Case closed!!!
ReplyDeleteWonder what AAA's cut is in these monies? I have to hand it to him, this is surely an original in book of tricks. Order the books, deliver few hunndred to each parish, once in their possession, send a collector to collect monies. Parishes have the merchandise. Archie will come back with reason, he is corporation sole for the Archdiocese, therefore he is able to speak for all parishes. What a racket..
ReplyDeleteDO NOT BUY THE BOOK...
ReplyDeleteVery expensive toilet paper.
ReplyDeleteIt's not as soft as CHARMIN! I'd probably get crack burns using 'em. Not worth using on my tooshy!
DeleteNot absorbent. Slick pages. Slick, indeed.
DeleteAbsoloufely sickening to say the least.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the.poor. The growing number of homeless on Guam. what about the pastoral. Ministries? what about the retired men and women priests and religious? What about the sick men and women religious. if Archbishop Apuron truly loved his church he would be supporting priests religious to raise funds. instead he self promotes himself in a book.
In a church today where we promote service to the poor and a simple life for priests this man promotes himself in such a Royal manner it is disgusting sickening even to read. Absoloute disgrace to the church.
When the usher at the church entrance told me it is for sale for $30, I just a made a sign of the cross! I hadn't seen or read the book yet, but I'm willing to bet you a dime to a dollar there will be a good chapter in there regarding the "era of evangelization" of the people of Guam by the invasion of the archdiocese by the NCW - thanks to the invitation of the archbishop. Why would you want to spend $1.00 in reading about our invasion! DO YOURSELF A FAVOR! DO NOT PAY! And pastors, stand up for your rights to refuse to pay - unless you pre-ordered it in writing. And then it becomes your personal responsibility; don't tap on parish funds - those monies belong to the people! Don't be a "ninny". For once, support your parishioners, over the archbishop's demand for payment. It is not a violation of your vow of obedience to refuse to pay!
ReplyDeleteSeems like this is his MO, hand out pictures of himself to everyone. With exception of his NEO community, he never shows up in any of the ministry groups in the archdiocese, he just sends them his picture. His visits to the parishes is every 12 years, however he never fails to send updated photos of himself. Vanity of vanity, these pictures are vanity....
ReplyDeleteThe number and amount of "blow back" is indicative of the frustration and anger of the Faithful at the antics pulled by our Neo Archbishop, Anything and everything he does is for the benefit of his Sect. Apuron, resign and take your neo flock with you. You are a disgrace to our Church.
ReplyDeleteDid he give a copy to the Pope in Philly??
ReplyDeleteOLBS parish priest told me that the parish was going to get part of the proceeds of the sale. I wonder who told him that story. I told him it was a "Neo Book". I just thought he's new and has't caught up with the latest - he should read up.
ReplyDeleteWho is pastor atOLBS now
DeleteI wasn't sure what is the name of new priest at OLBS - Fr. Marvin Bearis OFM. He says he's from Hawaii. This Sunday he told the parish that all proceeds from Book will go back to the parish.
DeleteDeacon Agbulos was back after a long vacation to preach this Sunday about giving to the church. I don't know if it's just me & the knowledge that his wife works for AAA but he sounded very "Neo".
Correction, these books were purchase or force to purchase by AAA to our prior Parish Priest and our New Priest "Father Marvin" is selling them so we can recover Parish's funds. Father Marvin is not new to Guam as he was here 6 years ago as Brother Marvin and was Ordained a Priest in Hawaii. "Our Lady of the Blessed Sacrament Church is his first assigned Parish since becoming a Priest. We Agana Heights people Welcome Father Marvin as our Parish Priest. If you recall we told AAA that we wish for our Parish to continue as a non-neo Parish. Our Lady of the Blessed Sacrament Church is our Church, we (The People of Agana Heights) build our Parish Church and will remained our Parish Church.
DeleteThanks for the correction. Obviously to stay out of trouble, we can see why some priests are saying that the “proceeds are going back to the parish.”
DeleteTechnically, that’s true. However, what needs to be clear is that the “proceeds” have already gone to the chancery or to wherever the chancery is directing those proceeds.
The parishes were given a bill and the pastor - some pastors - apparently paid it, again, probably to stay out of trouble.
But obviously “staying out of trouble” is why we are in so much trouble now. For years pastors and parishes kicked the can down the road in hopes of staying trouble free, or neo-free. No one has stood up to these bullies.
Let us also correct the perception that the parish is “ours”. It is not. Parishioners have ZERO say over the future of their parish. Canonically and legally, the parish and all its assets belongs to the bishop. He can close the parish tomorrow and you will have no say in it. He can make your parish neo tomorrow and you will have no say in it.
This is why from the beginning I have been on a crusade to wake people up, especially those who are “snug” in their non-neo parishes.
So-called Capuchin parishes are the most vulnerable because Capuchins are not diocesans and serve only at the pleasure or invitation of the bishop.
So wake up. Get involved. Stop hiding in your parishes. Get out there and help us get rid of this scourge. You have no idea what Kiko and Gennarini have planned for you and now that Apuron has lost all hope of a red hat he no longer has to play nice.
Parish Priest & Parish Council from our churches should think before paying the Bill for the booklets. We trust them with the monies that we donate each Sunday.
ReplyDeleteSorry I was busy all day.
ReplyDeleteI have just been reading the documents provided.
Several points.
Les Editions du Signe are a printing and editing house based in the Alsace region of France, and specializing in the printing of religious editions.
The whole filing of corporate papers for the company, the documents necessary to operate in France are all in order.
It is incorporated as a SA or Societe Anonyme, similar but not in all details, to an Inc. in the US system.
Their Capitalisation is quite high, compare to their gross yearly revenue, and to the minimum required.
1 425 000.00 Euros for sales of 3 877 300.00 Euros in 2013.
The main share holder is named Christian Riehl, and seems to be in charge of multiple roles:
Chairman of the Board, General Manager, director of Marketing and Sales.
Other administrators are: Mrs Lydie Riehl and Mr David Riehl.
All the board and tax documents as required under French laws have been filed on time.
They employ between 20 and 45 pers.
This is it for the company in question.
So we have a family company that is incorporated in France, and which according to my brother who is in the editing business, is a reputable company started in the late 1980's.
They do religious editions, but also cook books, and "bandes dessinees" which are popular in Europe.
So as far as the printer, they are at first observation a legitimate company.
Now in regards to the invoice and the payments instructions, it gets a little more complicated.
(continued)
(continued) Invoice and methods of Payment.
ReplyDeleteThe invoice in itself is printed in on the proper type of Invoice, following the French regulations, which are applicable.
It does not seem that they added the VAT (Value added tax), which is normal since this sale is an export.
Since it was edited, it is hard to tell what kind of tax they charged. You have
a HT (hors taxes) which means without tax, and a TTC (toutes taxes comprises) which means all included taxes total. This needs to be verified by the person receiving said invoice.
Also there is a line for transportation, which apparently is charge to the receiver.
One issue on this invoice, is that unless they have an account in France in foreign currency, all services charged have to be remitted in Euros. As you see the work is being charged in US dollars.
Finally for the invoice, it is not clear if a duty tax was added, since this is an import on the territory of Guam, and if so: what is that amount, where does it show, is it included in the transport price?
Last point on the invoice, there are no discount, but the payment time is quite generous, even by French standard : 210 days from the end of the month of the sending of the order.
In this case the end of June 2015, hence the bill's due date is 01/31/16.
This is a known tactic in Europe to push the payment into another fiscal year, and by doing so, allowing for confusion in the actual payment of the service. Sometime allowing for a claim of delinquent account, that is not collectible, while in fact it has been paid in a third manner.
Now for the nitty gritty: the payment instructions:
As you notice the payment instructions are of two orders, one by wire transfer to a Bank in Michigan, the other by check to a third party, an individual not related to the company who is based in Ohio.
This is extremely fishy.
Number one it is against the law in France to be paid outside of the location which did the billing : located in France, and except in some rare cases it has to be done in Euros. Therefore the payment should be sent to the outfit in France.
If worse comes to worse I suggest you send a check to the address in France with the billing number as a reference. They will have a tough time cashing it in legally since the invoice is not in Euros.
On the other hand, you have individuals that are cashing money that does not belong to them through their bank account, this is called money laundering.
Plus a person knowingly cashing amounts of money which include taxes that have been collected, which obviously will not be remitted, is called wire fraud, and defrauding the government.
So far this is the best proof we have of the complex way the Genarinni clan pushes, for their slight of hand, in pushing money from account to account so fast and in such a way. (an account can be closed easily, and another opened someplace else also very fast).
Of course there is also the issue of fair market value. What is the price of each copy. Is it a real price, or is this over inflated....... I think we might have found another thread of a very complex money laundering scheme.
Whoa.....I don't think they were planning" poor little uneducated Chamorros" to lift the veil !!!!
In the meantime, there is urgency for the parish councils to meet and decide if they want to return the order they did not order, request in writing, written instructions from the Chancery.
Request clarification from the Archbishop on how to proceed. (also in writing)
There are going to be sparks with this.
Can somebody also find out, who that "foreign" person delivering the invoice is ?
This is big my friends..... Hands in the proverbial cookie Jar.
Sending the info to the French tax bureau... Somebody should send the same info to the IRS in Michigan and Ohio. This is good!!!
Thank you Lord!!! Your ways are full of mysteries, but they sure can be revealing.!
On further thought as I reflected. All my friends who produced these kind of coffee table books printed and published thousands of copies with just a few sponsors. So the reality is you should be able to produce a coffee table book which is simply given away never sold. My friends have produced beautiful coffee table books 500 pages printed by 3d colour machines and then given away free. Simply because a handful of sponsors paid for it.
ReplyDeleteSo for the archbishop having to sell his book to make money , after 30 years as archbishop is actually a poor reflection on him. I know there are many wealthy individuals on Guam who could so easy have sponsored that entire project. That is if he was a loved archbishop. Just look at the way he conducts business. No class no style. it's all about money to Archbishop, Money and self promotion. Archbishop, I hope one day before your end you learn one thing money cannot buy is respect. Making a book on yourself frankly will not buy you respect . If you want respect on your 70th birthday I suggest best thing you can do is to amend the grave mistakes you have made in the past 30 years. Just to amend afew of them will bring you the respect of the entire community. The people are not hard to talk to archbishop, they simply ask your respect and loyalty.
More info,
ReplyDeleteThe NCW in France is not very active, since they were opposed quite forcefully by several Bishops starting in the 1980s.
Never the less they are present in about 4 dioceses, one of them being Strasbourg, which is the region this printer comes from.
Are they kiko followers? I do not know, but these type of strange dealings, could suggest a closer scrutiny might be welcome.
There is a RMS seminary in Strasbourg, and apparently this printer does a lot of their work.
I will keep on digging.
I don’t know much about Strasbourg, but I doubt the Cincinnati, OH person to send a check to is a Neo. She is an ex-nun, author, and very active with the Archdiocese of Cincinnati which I do not believe has experienced the “joy” yet.
Deletehttp://www.ursulines-ur.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=758%3Aues-june-newsletter&catid=18%3Aeducation&Itemid=21&lang=en
http://www.catholiccincinnati.org/venue/home-of-mary-cabrini-durkin/
This brand of JOY is painful.
DeleteDiana, read it and weep, it is very obvious that the anger, frustration and sense of betrayal is very clear, very strong, and runs very deep. Here is a shorter version of the posts. We do not want the Neo's or your archbishop on Guam. Pack up and leave and yes, please bring tony along.
ReplyDeleteyou mean Brother Tony right?
ReplyDeleteDear frenchie, I am sure that I speak for many of us here, thankyou so mch for your efforts tofurther shed light into the darkness Tim has exposed.
ReplyDeleteHere is another reason that I encourage everyone reading the JW blog to come out for the Silent Prayer protest Sunday, October 11 at 10 a.m. in front of the Cathedral Basilica. Bring you family and friends.
ReplyDeleteTim, please use Frenchie's post from Oct. 10,2015@1.36 a.m.; 3:02 a.m. & 6:01 a.m. as one of your HEADLINES. A lot of people do not finish reading the comments, and these comments by Frenchie is well investigated & enlightening. I also love & agree with the comment by Fr. Blockley, Oct. 10, 5:34 a.m. PLEASE READERS, READ FRENCHIE'S POST AND TAKE A STAND. WE LOVE OUR FAITH & OUR CHURCH. WE MUST FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT. GOD IS WATCHING OVER US.
ReplyDeleteis it invoiced to the specific parish? if so, that really would be fishy. on top of what frenchie has said, wouldn't that be enough to constitute fraud on the part of the people who placed the order?
ReplyDeleteYes it is.
Deletesmh.
Deletethousands of $ may not be big enough for the ftc to care. plus there's the question of whether the parish is legally within apuron's control, so that if he did approve the merchandise order, then the archdiocese will still have to pay up, even if the parish itself doesn't have to pay for it.
okay, i knew i've heard of editions du signe before. last year they published a graphic novel about the history of the archdiocese of seattle.
ReplyDeletesee:
http://www.nwcatholic.org/features/nw-stories/journey-of-faith
and:
http://www.nwcatholic.org/features/nw-stories/journey-of-faith
the big difference here, though, is that neither the parishes nor individuals were coerced (as far as i know) into purchasing any copy. however, i myself have been wanting to buy a copy because it sounded interesting, but i kept putting it off and forgot about it.
i can ask around as to how payment was made to editions du signe.
sorry, i duplicated the links to those archdiocese of seattle pages. here are the correct links:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nwcatholic.org/features/nw-stories/journey-of-faith
http://www.seattlearchdiocese.org/Assets/CFF/General/4272_JourneyofFaithRevisedFlyer.pdf
I have been away from the jungle for sometime and just as I returned, this bs happens. I join the others on this blog in protest of this, the latest and one of the worse examples of tony's (I refuse to give him a title anymore) money-making scams, devious schemes and outright FRAUD!!! I am sure by now that the various catholic organizations, schools and affiliated businesses have been approached to strong-arm or cajole them to buy these booklets. This Napoleonic, sorry excuse of a man has no limit to his egotistical self-promotion and vanity. I would like to take this opportunity to once again, thank Tim and Frenchie in their devoted pursuit of truth and accountability in order to rid our beloved island of the evil that has entrenched itself in the Catholic hierarchy and some of our parishes. Their detective-like skills, content knowledge, and global connections are truly amazing! Let's all stay vigilant, watchful and patient as we collectively make our case to the Vatican and the world that this tiny, Catholic island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean will not succumb to the tentacles of the NCW or any other evil organization that dares to show its dark shadow on our beautiful shores.
ReplyDeleteEvery little thing shows up on this blog. Haha
ReplyDeleteMy parish is selling this book as well. He governor and his wife was in attendance and after mass bought a book of the history of the diocese of Guam as well as pictures from the various parishes. It is up to you if you want to purchase one or not. Your not being forced to. But then again all the drama is here in this blog so lets blow this shit up and heat this place. Haha. So selfish and all but we are fighting against each other. Lets add more to the fire. Amen
Haha, yah, add more to the fire, like the book. Haha. Amen.
Delete@10:29 Yes, all the Lies the NCW, and Church leaders have been blatently displaying haha, and the deceit and cover up that have been exposed haha, and the heretical teachings that are being taught at the RMS haha, and the coverup of abuses and misconducts by RMS priests haha. You dare point out our drama in the jungle and forget that this drama was all a result of the improprities that your cult is perpetrating on our isand.. Stupid Ass...
DeleteHi Little Thing. Welcome to the blog!
DeleteThis wouldn't have gone this far if Apuron just came out clean. So yes, more fuel was added to the fire and now it's out of control.
DeleteIf Pius just kept his huge ugly nose out of our affairs the fuel put in the fire wouldn't have escalated.
Sorry to say, I believe in my heart that the reason why Apuron wants Sanvitores canonized a saint is because he wants it to be his LEGACY.
Let us wipe our asses before burning it.
ReplyDeleteOnly one sad thing about the book. It also commemorates bishops, priests, religious and faithful laity living and deceased. Too bad TONY Apuron destroyed so much we can't even love our memories. God forgive him. Jubilee blessings to Archdiocese of Guam. Have hope in the Future under a new Archbishop.
ReplyDeleteThe sad thing is that the book is well done, primarily because Apuron didn't have anything to do with it. It actually has real scholarship, thanks to Fr. Eric and Fr. Tom McGrath.
ReplyDeleteThe EVIL here is the manner in which Apuron is EXTORTING payment from the parishes. I say DON'T buy it for now. We will see somethings more clearly in a couple of days.
Agreed, Tim. Don't buy the book. Just saying it's sad.
DeleteI will wait for the Fire Sale, then maybe I'd get one just to see the work of Father Eric and Tom. But of course, of course, the picture of Apuron goes into the fire pit. Kinda symbolic.
DeleteThe sad thing is that the Books each Parish is selling are all paid for as force by AAA and now the Parish is selling them to recovery the cost. So it truly does not matter as AAA got his money already. Just so sad as I use to truly look up to this Bishop and now I walk away or turn the page each time I see him. I just don't want to cross path with him.
DeleteBased on Frenchie's investigation of why this French company is allegedly billing the parishes directly. Here's my take: Someone paid the French company for the books, or it is still an open account. But most probably, someone took their invoice form, probably without the permission of the French printing company, and is billing the parishes in dollars with some profit, and having funds remitted to US accounts. That is fraud.
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