Wednesday, October 15, 2014

A LETTER AND CALL TO ACTION FROM JOHN TOVES

Make it Count - Do Not Attend a NEO Parish this Sunday!

There are many stories published, filmed, or even just passed on throughout history where a small voice was able to change the course of events.  I plead with you - DO NOT ATTEND A NEO PARISH this Sunday, October 19th.  Our little island CAN make our voices heard so loudly and so beautifully to the world of the faithful.  Our Lady of Camalin would be so pleased!  This can be your legacy - you will save our island church!

YOU MUST STAY AWAKE!  You must not give the Archbishop and those who prop him up more opportunity to play the politics of the church.  Please be realistic, THEY are in power now, and will use that power to remain unless you put a stop to it.  YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THE CHURCH OF OUR LADY OF CAMALIN!  You also have an obligation to yourselves and your children.  You must be a "DAVID" now!  The longer you wait, the more time they will have to dig their heels into the ground.  You cannot sit back and wait for your neighbor to do it and then jump in when it is over.  Make this an Island Story to be proud of and told everywhere.


There was a past news piece out here on the mainland where a small boy's father was a casualty in the Gulf.  He told his mom that he thinks his dad will be flying over their house on one certain day.  He asked if they can keep their porch light on for his dad to see their house.  She was touched and asked all she knew in her neighborhood to do the same thing. - And they did!  This piece went viral all over the media nationwide.

I am not asking you to keep your porch light on as I know how much power costs on the island.  But I am asking you to put aside your fear of retribution from the Archbishop, or anyone else, and make a very loud and strong statement by not going to a Neo church this Sunday!  Look at your fear and say to it - "move aside fear, I have better things to do!"  "I need to save my church!"

What would Our Lady say? - "Save my church!"  What would Jesus say? - "Save my church!"  What would or Lord and Father say? - "Save my church!"  What would the Holy Spirit say? - "I'd better not see you at a Neo church!"  And you really don't want to upset him.

I am not asking you take the blood of your babui and paint a cross above your door.  I'm just asking you to be the proud and courageous guamanians that I know you to be.  Please do not go to a Neo church for this Sunday?  Then we will see what you are willing to do…

This blog can provide you with the listing of parishes which are Neo.  If you are in one of them, please go to another non-neo parish for this Sunday!  You take the time to go out of your way to a different store where rice is on sale.  You can take the time to go to another parish.  As some of my fellow chammoros say out here "Put Fabot Please!"  In my own small way, I am pitching this to certain media out here.  You too can twitter, Facebook, utube, or instagram OUR story.

The End - 
of Their Abuse

Respectfully,

John Toves

116 comments:

  1. I was informed starting tomorrow till Sunday all the neocat Catechists, Responsibles, and neo priests including AAA, David, and Adrian will gather at the Holiday Resort for their beginning of the year convivence retreat. I heard Fr Pius conducts the retreat. So if David and Michael will be at this retreat, who will be managing the Cathedral? It can't be Coreen or Jackie Terlaje because their also a part of the retreat. Will the pastoral office be open on Friday? Will there be masses at the cathedral on Sunday?

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    1. There should still be the Saturday 6pm and Sunday 7:30am. Those are Fr. Tom McGrath's regular Masses. As for the rest, maybe they will be covered by Filipino priests?

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    2. Mind your own business At 8:07 pm. You are not the Rector. Coreen is.

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    3. If david quitugua (tall) says the 7:30 mass for sure we will be at another parish....Too bad ,david...I used to respect you until you kept propping up AAA and his way.

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    4. I know that the Catholic Daughters are having their mass at 9:30 am on Sunday and the AAA will be doing the mass. Call your parish ?

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    5. Gosh, are we paying for yet another 2-3 day Neo retreat at a hotel while we sit in non-aircondition churches? Quit supporting aaa's way!!!!

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    6. To all I believe Father McGrath is off island. Don't know when he will be back. Maybe someone can find out.

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    7. Anon @ 6:47: Thanks for the warning about the Catholic Daughters' mass being said by Anthony Apuron. My mom and auntie will not be attending. And yes, they will call our parish priest....

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    8. Anon 2:42 Coreen is the Rector? A layperson?

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    9. You are not paying for the Hotel. We pay our own WAY.

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    10. Fr. McGrath off island

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    11. Will Father Adrian be at the retreat?

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    12. Is Fr Adrian bringing along his turtle to share with all his little neo friends?

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    13. Does his turtle have a name? Does it begin with E?

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    14. I just found out that Father Tom is back. Thank God that everything went well.

      ALSO the neo thing ends on Saturday night....so the neos will be available for Sunday masses......go on Saturday night....

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    15. Could somebody record Pius' speech at the Holiday Inn? It could be interesting to read a transcript...

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    16. Should I disguise myself as Jackie Terlaje and just strut in ??? Otherwise, it is yet another secret meeting. For leadership brainwashing about how to fight the good fight against the rest of the Island faithful. Doubt there will be a tape....

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    17. Hey Voice of Bullshit continue on the Hate you SOB. Cus you are.

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    18. If a kiko comments in the Jungle, and nobody listens, are they still wrong?

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    19. Anon 5:20 AM, wow and your post is one full of love. Same Neo drivel. By the way you remain a coward hiding in anonymous status. Crawl back under the rock that you came from and keep your hateful comments to yourself!!!

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    20. Can anyone supply the last letter in the name of the turtle. I have a name but I'm just looking to confirm .

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  2. Can someone provide the list of non neo parishes?

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    1. Strong Neo parishes are Barrigada, Agat, Santa Rita, Chalan Pago, Merizo, Cathedral, and I don't know where else. Let us just say, instead of boycotting the other parishes, find out when a NonNeo priest is saying mass. Toto is NonNeo. Msgr James says mass at 11:30 on Sundays. I do not know about Father Paul's Sunday schedule. Tumon is NonNeo. Dedeo is also non NEO. The Capuchin parishes are Not NEOS. Check your local parishes to find out what priests are NonNeo.

      Strong Neo Priests from other parishes include Father Rudy and BIBI at St. Anthony. I do not know who is NEO in Yigo.

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    2. For starters: Yona, Sinajana Toto, Dededo

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    3. Sorry I meant to list the strong NEO parishes as Agana, Barrigada, Chalan Pago and Asan. As for the rest listed, their presence has dwindled there but they are still present or their pastors are Neo presbyters. Am not sure about Tumon though.

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    4. Agana Heights "Our Lady of the Blessed Sacrament Church" is strongly and truly a an non-neo Parish. Saturday night is at 6 p.m. and Sunday Masses are at 7 a.m. and 9 a.m. Monday thru Friday except Thursday mass is at 6 p.m.

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    5. Rudy fake neo.

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    6. Rudy is not fake, but does not practice humbleness! What priest would insult or humiliate you during mass? He has to go to more convivences to reflect. Rudy, I think it is time for you to retire permanently.

      You not only humiliate people during mass, you constantly look at your watch. You look at your watch during the homily, which I may add is toooooo long. You look at your watch after your so call reflection of the homily. You look at your watch during the after communion reflection. You really need to take your watch off when you say mass!

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    7. The polish dude from Santa Rita also a kiko-bot. Avoid him as well.

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  3. See July 14, 2014- A NEO Directory of Parishes

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  4. John Toves must live with his parents and stay in a basement with this dumb post. What a maronee.

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    1. "Maronee?" Hahaha! Minus well resort to name-calling when dishing out insults, right?

      From what I remember of John, he's a really good guy. I remember his love of music the most, I actually heard the English version of "Hagu" from him before I heard Flora Baza-Quan sing it.

      Hafa Adai, John -- so good to hear from you after all these years! So great of you to throw down the gauntlet in this very active way, from so far away. Your choice to get involved by sticking up for your Seminarian brothers is indicative of your strong moral compass. I'm so proud of you for taking this step. I'm unfortunately not at liberty to be quite as forthcoming with my identity, but I'm sure this battle cry is appreciated by many. Including me.

      A maronee, though! OMG!!!

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    2. No doubt this was posted by either an uneducated seminarian or presbyter who doesn't know how to apply it in proper context. So, with compassion, let us educate you Mr. Anonymous, before you misuse the word "marone" again:

      Marone is an italian slang word: Italian pronunciation (southern dialect/Neapolitan) of the word "Madonna", literally referring to the Virgin Mary (the mother of Christ). Equivalent would be "Holy Smokes".. A phrase to represent surprise, amazement, or down right shock. Could be used in many contexts.
      "oh Marone a mi, who let one go?"
      "Marone, this guy complains more than Woody Allen..."
      "Marone, you yap worse than 6 barbers."

      So, when you replied "What a maronee" you actually implied "What a Madonna (Mother of Christ)." Since there is only ONE Mother of Christ, what you said was actually blasphemous. Please don't use it again unless you know how to apply it. Thanks and peace. (Stop playing in the jungle dude. You're only embarrassing yourself.)

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    3. " . . . stay in a basement . . ." Really? Obviously you are not from this island.

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    4. Anonymous at 10:35, you did not post your name because you are a coward and can only call others names while you hide behind the Internet. Your lack of intelligence, integrity, and humanity is apparent. Your ignorant support of the cultist Neos is apparent. Instead of bad - mouthing Mr. Toves, who had bravely stepped forward to ask his people on island to support the church that he grew up with, why don't you look in the mirror and take inventory of your failure as a human being. I join with Mr. Toves and ask all my family and friends in Guam and around the world to spread the word and put a stop to the Neos. DO NOT support the Archbishop and his followers in their non - Christian ways. Do not perpetuate their hate and maliciousness.

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  5. I too have considered this as a form of protest. But in the final analysis, it's tantamount to surrendering the fort. Who are the interlopers in this scenario? The NCW. Who rightfully has a deeply vested interest in preserving each parish which has served the true faithful for generations? We do, of course. Will solidarity in refraining from celebrating mass in one's own parish deter the NCW? Probably not since they admittedly don't need a church or parish to propagate. Would the lack of financial support force some churches to close their doors? Possibly, but who stands to gain from this outcome?

    Sadly, the real solution should be for all the faithful to stand their ground and fight for their beliefs. But far too many prefer to avoid confrontation all together. So we attend mass like nothing is wrong and complain in private amongst ourselves. And by the time word trickles up the chain, any indication of disharmony is recieved as mere rumor or rumblings of a disgruntled few.

    Our strategy should be to challenge these neo prebyters on a daily basis. Challenge their theology, challenge their beliefs, challenge their resolve. Force them to seek the Truth for themselves and to convert to the real Catholic faith. The NCW will then abandon that parish for fear of losing members. Or they'll be overwhelmed by the constant barrage and will leave on their own. Either way, we will send the right message to the neo heirarchy - this is our parish, the house of God that nurtured the faith of my father's father and his father before him, as is now my inheritance to preserve as their legacy for my grandson's son and his son after him.

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    1. Tim, is it possible to add a "like" button to posts?

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  6. NON NEO: Agana Heights, Sinajana, Maina, Piti, Mongmong, Dededo, Ordot, Mangilao, Talofofo, Yona, Malojloj, Toto
    Strong NEO: Agana, Barrigada, Merizo, Agat, Santa Rita, Umatac, Inarajan, Yigo, Asan, Chalan Pago, Tamuning

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    1. I don't know what you mean by strong neo, but none of the Yigo priests "walk" in the muck. The only time you see the neo is when they need something, or are going to " give a sermon" lol
      They have been trying to infiltrate but the parishioners are too strong for them, so they hide in their cubby's.

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    2. Neo roaches turn on the light, stand up to them, they will run.

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  7. Thank you John! Believe this is an excellent suggestion to the people of Guam.
    The power is in the hands of people and they must make their voice heard.
    May we have a posting of the non Neo Parishes and lets get posting in social media.

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  8. OK 10:35 - I'll be a maronee and a nut-hugger. I proudly accept the labels and will wear them proudly. In fact, I will go outside of my house, thank the Holy Spirit for another wonderful day, look at God's beauty on my grounds where I live, and look for a nut to hug. Will a pine cone do? I have a four story pine tree in my back yard, a lot of pine cones! I'll work on the maronee a little later...just for you. I guess...Thank You! Now, out to the beautiful sunshine I go!

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    1. Be blinded with your bigotry John Pine Hole. Your hurting yourself with your hate blog. Deep inside you spew with HATE. Take with you six feet under. Can't wait when the Pope present this letter.

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    2. LOL! My friends, what will we do for afternoon entertainment when this hilarious chapter has concluded! Alas.

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    3. To have pine tress in ones garden means that John must live In a very nice place with nice grounds. I do not know John, but I have asked around the community and all speak of a highly intelligent professional person.Mr. Toves I believe has the good intention of helping all of us restore order dignity and integrity to the archdiocese. We should all stand united as we work together for the common cause of removing archbishop apuron and adrian . Causes of disunity.

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  9. The Archbishop informed the Nuncio during his recent visit to Guam, that he will not force Neo on anyone, therefore I suggest that the Non-Neo churches on Guam follow the example of Yona, St. Francis Parish and send a petition from the parishioners that they choose to remain a non-Neo parish.

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    1. How about parishes that are neo...can we petition them leave ?

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    2. Tanaka is full pledged bigot. That explain.

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    3. As my Mexican mother would say: "Aiy, yai, yai yai, yai!" LOL

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    4. Anon 2:25 PM, I would rather be a "full pledged bigot" than a full fledged idiot, which you are! Learn to spell and finish your sentences, "that explain". What the hell does that mean??? At least Mr. Tanaka has the gonads to sign his name. Do have any? Oops, you may be female. Sorry.
      Thanks Tommy for sticking up for the Catholic Church.

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  10. Tim may be of help to readers if Junglewatch publish a listing of Parishes with non Neo association . This will assist people to plan exactly where they will attend Holy Mass Sunday.

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    1. I'll probably do a longer post on this in the near future, but for now if you want to go to a church that is "non-neo", avoid Masses where an RMS graduate presides. The only know neo's other than that, that I'm aware of are the archbishop, the vicar general, and cristobal.

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    2. Merizo is a neo church but the older people in attendance don't know any better and will continue going like they always have. Pathetic neo's threw a fast one. Pathetic. I don't attend church there anymore. I read on someone's FB post (a "new" Neo) that the Archbishop himself is going to give him a "key"? A key to what?

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  11. To Anonymous at 10:52pm. You hit the nail right on the head!! I write this comment with all due respect to Mr. John Toves for his great idea of telling the NCW that we Guam Catholics neither appreciate nor even welcome their participation in OUR churches in Guam, not by mere words but by actually "boycotting" the Masses* celebrated by Neo-priests.

    There is a caveat, however, that we should be aware of - and that is that we do not end up "shooting ourselves in the feet" by the "boycott". The danger is this - it could be read that we are "surrendering" our churches where the Neo is thriving at. We need to be actively building our Church, and not just keeping away from termite-ridden churches. The comments of Anonymous at 10:52 says it all.

    I had written a comment over a year ago in the Jungle where I noted that our major problem in Guam is our Archbishop - where the Shepherd of the Flock has sold his flock down the river, by not just allowing but actively promoting the cult of the NCW to exist and flourish in our archdiocese, at the expense of his flock. He has abandoned his flock. We are a ship without a captain, ripe for a mutiny. Our mutiny should be to replace Apuron with a church-law-abiding bishop, who will lead ALL OF US CATHOLICS back to our Holy Mother Church, and not be beholden to Kiko Arguelles and his Neocats.

    PS: I put an (*) above after Masses, because the Neo Masses, by their own admission that the Mass is NOT a sacrifice, but a mere "celebration" of the Last Supper. We believe that Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is the same as Christ's Sacrifice on the Cross, the source of our redemption. They don't. Because it is a celebration, they can dance around their flower-bedecked table (not an altar) and sing, clap and dance, and sit to receive Communion.

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  12. Better to stay at your parish and keep a. Strong non-neo presence; just stop giving money people. All the churches of this archdiocese must hurt in order for Rome to step in.

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    1. Why would you want to hurt your church?

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    2. 12:42 We want to save the Church. Do you have a suggestion on how to log on our protest? They fault those who transferred to St. Anthony to follow Msgr James. They say we should stay where we are parishioners. Under normal circumstances that is correct. But times are abnormal. Sometimes you have to resort to things like this to let our leaders know you don't approve of their ways.

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    3. Sorry, I was addressing the question to Andrew Galvan. Sorry for identifying you as 12:42. You are more courageous than me.

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    4. Andrew Galva, As for the destroying the church, who are you referring to? I am most certain you are not referring to the NCW. Have you spoken to Maria at St Thomas Aquinas?

      Are you one of the 144,000 who are going to heaven? Isn't this what is taught in the NCW? I guess if you have not reached the plateau of the NCW you are not truly saved.

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    5. Wow, I hear that number 144,00 coming out of the Kingdom Hall of the Jehovah's Witnesses.

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    6. Very small in number. The cult only took over as a dangerous regime dictatorship because of the practice of Adrian Tony and David. Had it not have been for the practices of the regime then I think most people would have been happy to have allowed a small NEO community like couples for Christ or Christian Mothers. This regime amounts to a dangerous dictatorship which has destroyed people, taken our Land, and divided loved ones,destroyed faith and culture., Our Island home and soon our Government will be owned by the dictatorship. The plan after control the church will be to take over the Gov. Guam. friends, you may be casting votes for a calvo, or a Tenorio today, but tomorrow you may find a neo foreigner on the list for governor. Do you honestly want a political take over of Guam by the dictatorship? Consider this seriously. Very slowly the dictatorship moves to take over, then boy they suck you in and hard to remove.

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  13. Used to help out in any way at Our Lady of Peace Church in Chalan Pago, but I refrain from attending the Mass there since Edivaldo took over back in July, started attending the mass somewhere else that have non-neo priest, first at the friary, but now at San Juan Bautista. I would lie to go back to Chalan Pago for it was there that I received my First Holy Communion, my Confirmation, got married there too, but I won't go back there as long as a neo guy is presiding during Mass. I've had enough of their we are better than you attitude. I do wish that when they have their next get-together at one of the hotels, they will stay there and leave Chalan Pago alone for us Catholics. Jesus SN. Cepeda of Chalan Pago.

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    1. My BAD, my confirmation was back in 1939 along with my Baptism at the Agana Church,but all other religious education were at Chalan Pago, beginning at 1947, served as an altar server until I enlisted into the Army in 1958. Jes of Chalan Pago.

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  14. In addition to this protest, put a white ribbon around the antenna of your vehicle. White symbolizes purity or honesty. We want honesty back in our church. We want our Archbishop to be once again be honest with us. To stop using Mr. Lastimoza to get to Fr. Paul. To bring back Fr. Paul to Santa Barbara and throw out this issue about disobedience. What disobedience? Pastoring a person who wants to be right again with the Lord. That is not disobedience. That is obedience to the teaching of the Church.

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  15. Monsignor David (tall) Quitugua mentioned to Fr. Tom's 7:30 AM Sunday parishioners that Fr. Tom will be back to say his 7:30AM mass next Sunday. 19 Oct 2014. So, we will see. Mr. Tim Rohr, as mentioned again, I am a registered parishioner with the Hagatna parish so I will remain anonymous.

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  16. John, I am on board. The abuse of the Church and those wielding authority of their office(s) must stop. Tamuning is it.

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    1. We must prepare for an activism of the Church. As the Holy Father has asked us we must go out " make a mess" for only then can we bring order back into the archdiocese. Time is now to create a mess that will lead to the renewal of the authentic Catholic Faith in this community. When the shepherd has lost his way, is unable to shepherded the flock, we have to act and call for a new spiritual leader. Guam now calls for a new leader for Anthony Apuron has lost his capacity to lead .

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  17. Activism is the mechanism for change. At the front line of activism are typically college age youth who are not bound by tradition and see fit to challenge unapologetically. They are impatient, young, hungry, and passionate to make a change TODAY, and not tomorrow. My fear for traditional strategies is that it does give Apuron and proppers time to play around with the saids, the rules, and the pieces. We must not give them more time - this is my thinking.
    I struggle to defer to the wisdom of one of my heroes and the other gentleman or follow my passion. I think shooting ourselves in the foot can be a side casualty but still an effective strategy for his quick removal. I sat on Van Ness Avenue in San Francisco protesting during the first Gulf War and was arrested, and jailed (for a whole two and a half hours). This may sound foolish to you, but it was my passion. We already know what Apuron has done and is doing. Ultimate objective - removal, that's what I thought we had in mind. I also think both strategies employed concurrently would be excellent.

    Tim, I'd like to pull out and use my cut-and-paste card if that is okay.

    Wikipedia

    "Rosa Louise McCauley Parks (February 4, 1913 – October 24, 2005) was an African-American civil rights activist, whom the United States Congress called "the first lady of civil rights" and "the mother of the freedom movement".[1] Her birthday, February 4, and the day she was arrested, December 1, have both become Rosa Parks Day, commemorated in both California and Ohio."
    "On December 1, 1955, in Montgomery, Alabama, Parks refused to obey bus driver James F. Blake's order that she give up her seat in the colored section to a white passenger, after the white section was filled."

    THURSDAY, 16 OCTOBER 2014 / TRUTH-OUT.ORG

    "Pakistani education activist Malala Yousafzai and Indian child rights activist Kailash Satyarthi have jointly won the Nobel Peace Prize. At age 17, Yousafzai is the youngest person ever to win a Nobel Prize. In 2012, she was shot in the head by a Taliban gunman who boarded her school bus. She survived and continued to campaign for the rights of girls to go to school. "
    They undoubtedly "shot themselves in the foot", but they had passion!

    TED Conversations Archives 

    "Sean Clair"

    "Mar 30 2012: The arguments against social media activism are that people aren't actually getting out, demonstrating, signing petitions, and whatnot. These things are true, but "slacktivism" has its benefits.

    First, "slacktivists" who cannot or would not go out and do things in "the real world" can have some power online. By using social media activism, a great deal of people who would normally be just sitting on their couch doing nothing are now sitting on their couch doing something. This is important. It is getting people involved, and not just symbolically.

    Now, the power of slacktivism cannot be directly determined. This is because clicking "sign" on an online petition, or making a post on Twitter does not directly change things. But they lead to change. If you read or watch the news, you will find that Internet protests make headlines. They attract international media attention. When this happens, big entities get involved, like Reddit and Wikipedia in the recent SOPA blackout. That is what causes change, and that is what some people would call real activism.

    So ultimately, the power of social media activism is not that it changes things, but that it spreads awareness of things. It rallies people. It is then that these millions of people come together and change the world. But in many cases this would not have happened if not for the work of slacktivists."

    Frenchie and Cosabella, I'd love to know who you are and talk to you. Ask the "Rock" for my secondary email.

    EVERYONE, LET'S GET VIRAL!

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    1. Hello John Boy,
      how many French people do you know (beside Fabrice), with ties to Guam, with whom you broke bread, drank wine, traveled to far away churches to sing in the choir, and spent time with their mother?
      Its been over 20 years, but your memory cannot be that far gone....Lol

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  18. I will be praying for you in Australia. Your experience in Guam seems to be a frightening example of what can become of the parishes if the ncw has the monopoloy. God Bless xx

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    1. thank you Australia 5.56pm for the prayers. if you see the good Paul Gallagher give him the best wishes from Junglewatch.

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    2. Thanks John. I also believe we are to introduce into Guam a form of activism to bring about the removal of Anthony Apuron and his evil administration. Unfortunately the archdiocese is now under the administration of a foreign political cult operating in the name of the Catholic Church. . This cult has no blood of the true sons of Guam and amounts to nothing more than a dictatorship which has dominated our life, our culture, our people, our church. Three sons of Guam have sold the soul of our culture to a dictatorship for personal financial gain. We need liberation from this oppressive dictatorship.

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    3. Foreign? LMAO! You might as well take out everyone. What a dummy.

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    4. Janet B - MangilaoOctober 18, 2014 at 9:10 AM

      Can everybody say Archbishop Benedict Apuron? As in Benedict Arnold.

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  19. Thank you . I believe John Toves to be right in his evaluation along with Tim Rohr and the many people who comment in this publication. The problem that faces Guam today iCal only be resolved by the people of Guam. Archbishop Apuron has failed to restore peace and unity in the community. He continues to daily divide the community. I believe the time has now come when we as a community take the matter into our own hands and remove him from Office. .
    archbishop is an evil dangerous man and has no business leading the local church.

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    1. You fudge monkees are stirring the pot. Why is the Archbishop evil again?

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    2. Anon at 5:03 am. Thank you for your persecution. You strengthen our resolve. (I would like to solicit your expertise, Did I abuse the use of "persecution" correctly?)

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    3. Hey 5:03 AM thanks for your thoughts after your morning meditation.. I needed the laugh. You're from a 3rd world country and your feeble attempt to insult our Catholic islanders reflects your low I.Q. and juvenile mentality. As far as stirring up the pot, apparently you have a difficult time distinguishing between soup and sh_t. JAJAJAJAJAJAJA... again, thanks for the laugh. BTW you're always welcome to join the REAL Catholic Church whenever you're ready. Your archbishop is invited too. LOL

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    4. Yes I also studied 5.03pm " fudge monkees" It is not an American European language use. Suspect it comes from a seminarian at rms.

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    5. Anon@5:03 At first I was offended, then I considered the source. Now I just pity you and am praying for you. Thank you for giving us insight on what the seminarians think of us islanders. Fudge Monkees. Well, this fudge monkee (and it's spelled MONKEY) will just not contribute to your education any more. You have my sympathy and forgiveness, it's a CATHOLIC thing.

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  20. Resign Apuron!!!!!!!!!!!

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  21. One last note before I go out and thank the Holy Spirit for another wonderful day, - and find a nut to hug: As Apuron has divided the church, let us not divide our families. Please use the "agree to disagree" and continue to love each other. I've met so many couples in my profession where one is a Republican, and the other is a Democrat. Their love is genuine and very much demonstrated. During Clinton's campaign, his chairman (name I forget at moment) had a wife on the other side in the same capacity. I loved to watch them debate! I believe they are still happily married.

    So, do not do to your families what Apuron and Arian have done to the church!

    FRENCHIE - HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please ask the Rock for my email!

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  22. There will be no comments allowed which attach what is happening in this archdiocese to either political party.

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  23. Your Excellency, you and Adrian will enjoy a worldwide audience tomorrow. Imagine, now you'll both have such great fame to go along with all that power! That pretty much makes for such a delightful cocktail. I'll need to run it by Frenchie first as he is a world class Sommelier. But, don't worry, be happy!

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    1. World wide audience . I want to see the two of them on a cable network with a million viewers . ABC, Good Morning America, yes even CNN could splash their faces over the news.

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    2. By the way St. Patrick's seminary and the Sulpician Fathers were not impressed with Fr. Pius and His Gay comments. yes, the seminary was informed and some of the Sulpician Priest do read Jungle. The very Prof s of St. Patrick's who taught Adrian read about him now in jungle. common response. Where is Humility?

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  24. my child is enrolled in the CCD program at Cathedral and after the first day came home and said Mom, it's Neo teachers! Well let's just say I'm keeping my ears and eyes open to make sure the teachings are in line with the so-called "regular Catholicism" and not the other "way". The thing is if I pull out my child, where will we turn to? Which parish will accept us--we're branded as "Cathedral folks". If there wasn't this great divide in our Archdiocese, this would never have come up. Ergo, AAA gotta do something to fix this. Novel idea: step down already!

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    1. As parents, you can teach them yourself. You're actually supposed to. It is what you promised at the Baptism of your child. Do not be afraid, there are many resources available, even online Catechism class programs. I'm sure Tim can identify some of them for you. One that has never lost it's effectiveness is of course the Baltimore Catechism series. Very economical and easy to use and easy for the children to memorize and understand. If your child is ready to prepare for sacraments, you still have the first right to be their instructor and arrange with your parish for periodic examinations, retreats, etc. Parents, please do not forget the promises you made for your children's faith life at their Baptism. You will one day have to answer for them.

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  25. I am also registered in Agana Cathedral but I am looking at other options for my children for Confirmation. I may change my parish to a non neo parish.

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  26. The best catechism for the children will come from their parents. You live a life of Christ, your children will learn from that and the chances of them following suit increases. In our parish in Mongmong, our Faith Formation is centered on the Catholic Family. It is a curriculum that takes it's cues from homeschooling. In our second year, it has been one of our most successful programs. Not only have the children been learning about their faith within their families, the parents are the ones administering it! In fact, we have had a few successful stories of parents finally being wed in the Church because of this program. The best part, it's family centered and parish based.

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  27. The more viral we get, the larger media companies may pick up. But we have to get "VIRAL" going! Ask your teenagers! They'll guide you or do it for you. Get your pieces out there!

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  28. regardless of neo, the faithful has to be strong. go to mass!

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    1. No one mentioned anything about not going to mass! It was only suggested that you attend either a non NEO parish or a mass celebrated by a non NEO priests.

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  29. Yes, no one on this blog would tell you not to go to Holy Mass. It was suggested that we attend Mass at non neo Parishes or with non neo priests.

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  30. Thanks Joseph Calvo! I'd like get your email, or, you can ask the Rock for my secondary email. Thanks again! Working on a YouTube piece now for the trembling trio.

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    1. Very good to prepare YouTube piece on the evil trio. World needs to know about these
      Evil men operating in the name of the catholic church.

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  31. I did not misunderstand what he is asking us to do. I only refuse to give up my church to them---no retreat, no surrender

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    1. Anon 11:56, a lot of my friends say the same thing and I would agree if AAA were not the culprit for the coup' d' e' tat. I think we have to engage in bloodletting the Church to get rid of the poison. I'll join you, however, in fighting to maintain our Catholic local traditions. The Neo will see blood in my eyes if they try to change our veneration of Santa Maria Kamalen

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  32. 11:56 I do not ask for you to give up your church. I understand that it has become a part of your family with good memories and hopes. To remove this bishop is quite a huge endeavor. We can only do it by shaming him with a worldwide audience. I am asking that you do not attend this Sunday's mass there and go to another parish just this one time. If many do it, then we stand a chance to get our story picked up as a newsworthy piece on the global media stage which will reveal all that Apuron is doing to our island. You can help us make a difference if you do this one time. It is not a retreat or a surrender. It is a shamming of the Archbishop so he can be removed.

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    1. John, many of us have already left parishes run by the NCW presbyters. The problem I foresee with the Archbishop's mass is that the NCW members will ban together to the point that they would either car pool/ get bussed to the Cathedral to attend his Mass. If it is true that he is at a convivience, what are the chances that he will even say His 11 AM Mass? I would suggest that this be done for at least 2 Sundays. Just a thought .

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    2. John Toves ur a douche bag. Ur creating the division.

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    3. So many people have left the Cathedral. Just look at the Bishop's 9:30 am mass on TV, so empty...what use to be a full church for 7:00 pm has dropped dramatically in attendance. There hasn't been a bulletin for the last two weeks....the collection has gone down significantly. Monsignor James' mass at Tamuning is standing room...well worth it.

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    4. Oh dear, why is there no bulletin for two weeks? Well, no point in printing a bulletin, after all no need for one. nothing worth to read about in cathedral.

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    5. In regards to Anonymous 8:42 pm, John please create more division between real Catholics and the kikocancers.

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    6. Anon 8:42 PM, the division is caused by Kiko and his bots. Get it through your skull!! The regular Catholics, real Catholics, want to worship the "Sacrifice" of the mass as Jesus and the church in Rome dictates. Not dictated by a layman and woman. There is no other Catholic Church. The neo way is heresy and we refuse to follow. Understand?? Your insults only prove how hateful your kind are. Take your hate and heresy somewhere else. You are no longer welcome on Guam!!!

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  33. Agree with John we need to get world media interested in Apuron .

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    1. Yeah, get the media after him good. And let . Mr. Tim Rohr, with a suit and tie, beard trimmed nicely step out for the news conference!

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  34. What about Adrian he needs to go back to Denver parish to work.

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  35. Mr. John Toves is a blessing to the Catholic Church. Out of personal good will for the faith community of our Island, and John's love for the people of Guam, he has given his time and knowledge to come forward and assist those in need. Thank you John for the help you give and the healing you bring to so many.

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  36. WE ARE BEGINNING TO GO GLOBAL! Watch the LIVE TRAFFIC FEED near the top of the page to the right under the heading "Live Traffic". Other countries are looking at this blog! If any teenager or adult can visit a Neo mass before or after they attend a non-Neo mass, inconspicuously take your phone camera and video what you can. Put it on YouTube and entitle it "The NEO Churches are Near Empty - The Archbishop is Destroying the Island Church!" This is your chance to post a piece on YouTube that will hopefully go viral! This would also greatly help with major global media pickup! Our Lady calls to you!

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  37. Fr.Tom did say 7:30AM mass this morning and I know some of our regular 7:30AM parishioners have noticed an increase in attendance at the 7:30AM mass. I also just happened to look at the bulletin on the mass schedule that "SATURDAY*" 7:30PM (Mass in English/Sunday Vigil/Neocatechumenal Way". Never noticed that before, but I guess the NEOS are trying to infiltrate our "BELOVED SANTA MARIAN KAMELIN in the Hagatna Cathedral Basilica.

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  38. Would not surprise me if the NEO cult attempts to remove Our loved Santa Marian Kamelin from the cathedral Basilica. May be even replace her with an image of of Kiko's art.

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    1. I hope all the real Catholics would hold a demonstration of thousands if the NCW tried to take Our Lady of Kamalin away. Even during WWII she was protected from evil. Let's protect her now.

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  39. No one shall remove the statue of Our Lady of Kamalin ! I will not let the NCW poison our future generation by Kiko's cult religion .

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