Saturday, December 24, 2016

A VERY ODD AND UNTIMELY GIFT FROM ARCHBISHOP BYRNES

Posted by Frenchie

WHEN ARCHBISHOP BYRNES ARRIVED LAST MONTH,THE CATHOLIC FAITHFUL
ON GUAM WERE FILLED WITH HOPE AND WITH A NEED TO BELIEVE IN CHANGE.


Unfortunately, on  the Eve of the celebration of the Birth of our Savior, our new leader is giving us a very disturbing gift, which we are likely not to forget soon.

Many had waited since his arrival to find out how our newly arrived Archbishop would handle several cases involving some of the most egregious actors of the previous administration.

One of these cases of course is the one of the Evil Cristobal.


Our now internationally famous cross-dressing priest extraordinaire, the facilitator of the NCW on Guam, one of the very few priests not to graduate from St Patrick Seminary because of his record, a student of such bad moral and academic level that the board refused to endorse him, the same individual who slandered his fellow priests and tried to destroy their career, the eminence grise of the sulfurous Pius of Malta, the one who refused his new assignment by Archbishop Hon, was surely going to be set straight by our new Archbishop, who famously declared: "I am now yours!"

WELL FOLKS!!! SORRY FOR THE BAD NEWS!!!

Cristobal the poor excuse of a priest, a man who should  most likely be defrocked, based on his dismal past and continued arrogance and defiance, has now been officially selected by Archbishop Byrnes himself to go study Canon Law. Instead of being disciplined, he is rewarded.

This is our New Archbishop Christmas gift to the faithful of his Diocese:

We the faithful of Guam have been asked to pay for the education  of an individual who could not even graduate from the seminary, and who has worked his whole life to weaken, if not destroy our Church

I am sure this is not what most of us were expecting when our new Archbishop arrived on our shores.
This is a huge disappointment to a people waiting for justice and rebuilding. It is not an auspicious start, from a bishop so many had put their hope on.

It is obviously a move from Filoni to try to salvage Cristobal's shot  at a promotion.

It is a monumental error from Archbishop Byrnes, who should  have shown patience and discernment in this particular case.

It is a huge insult to all those who have worked so hard to rebuild our Catholic Church on Guam. The fact that this is our Christmas Gift from Arch. Byrnes to us, is really salt in the wound, it adds insult to injury.

89 comments:

  1. This action by Archbishop Byrnes is very unfortunate. It seems like Filoni is making Cristobal "entitled" to succeed. Wow, the fight must continue and no more money to the Archdiocese.

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    1. apuron OUT...apuron OUT...apuron OUT...apuron OUT...apuron OUT...

      Archbishop Byrnes, in being merciful... if nothing else, one less problem to deal WITH... or that sending adrian to the vatican, is the closest thing to HELL...

      We believe Jesus calls men to the priesthood and that a bishop has the gift to confirm his calling.
      Pope Francis recently spoke about ensuring that bishops put in the effort to discern the calling of men presenting themselves for the priesthood.

      Even when a man’s discernment is found to be true and he is ordained, not all priest are good in all aspects of their duties.

      He may give bad homilies, but might be excellent running a school.
      He might not connect well in the confessional but he is excellent is ministering to the sick.
      He might have limited skills at running a parish but he is an excellent evangelist.

      There was a reason this man has been called by Jesus to be a priest; therefore, we are obligated to respect the man because of his office. We are also obligated to look for the good in him.

      https://zenit.org/articles/pope-s-address-to-assembly-of-congregation-for-clergy/

      apuron OUT...apuron OUT...apuron OUT...apuron OUT...apuron OUT...

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  2. This is truly sad news! I am from Barrigada and Adrian Cristobal grew up with a silver spoon and has always thought that he was better than anyone else in the village. Since I left Guam in the Mid 1970s, I was totally surprised to hear that he became a priest since he never seem priestly to me.

    But I am thinking that this is one way to get Cristobal off the Island and we shall all see how long it takes him to learn the Canon Law. Depending on where he is going to learn the Canon Law, it might just take him long enough to do so that he will be eligible for retirement before he comes back to Guam!

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  3. Dear Frenchie,
    I have the impression you are to quick in your judgements and also to arrogant. Cant'you understand that Bishop Byrnes has with his decision obtained two points:
    1. don Christobal leaves the island and is out of Guam for almost 4 years.
    2. Bishop Byrnes gives Cristobal the chance of a new beginning outside of the hotility that now in Guam would anyhow surround him.
    This was mercyful from Bishop Byrnes. Now it is up to Cristobal to show himself worth of this trust.

    Happy Christmas in Mary and Jesus,

    Daniel Lifschitz

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    1. Dear Daniel, while we respect your work in exposing the Neocatechumenal Way for what it really is, your judgement on JungleWatch authors, especially when it comes to the intricacies of our local struggle, and especially when it comes to Frenchie who knows Adrian's intimate history, is not appreciated. This is one of the reasons why, despite the help you can give us, will not invite you to Guam.

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    2. I totally agree with Tim! While I mentioned that Cristobal will be gone off the Island of Guam, learning the Canon Law for how ever long knowing him, is a GREAT THING, I did not mean that all the things Cristobal did in the past should be forgotten. He is not priestly, very spoiled, and to think that he will ever make Bishop is the scariest thought ever! Heaven Help Us!

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    3. Mercy! The religiously young Son's of Guam who requested priestlyhood schooling off island were denied? If they were to do wrong (just like Fr. Cristobal has done, in which I highly doubt they would) then just maybe Bishop Byrnes will catch up on their story, approve their request, and ship them off too. Unlike Fr. Cristobal, the innocent Son's of Guam are still sitting and waiting for a turn, and their chance.

      Like Mother Teresa said "Calcutta is all around the world. Stay home and attend to your Calcutta."

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    4. I understand: The people, like Tim and others, who control the comments,are not interested in a real fruitful discussion. If my two replys will not be published, I must leave "Junglewatch" , because your methods are the same of the NCW, and will abstain me in future to interveene in your Blog.

      I will follow your "Jungle", because I am interested in news about Guam, but I was shat uppet, and obeiing your methods, I will shat up.

      Anyhow, who nows? If Bishop Byrnes calls me to Guam, I hope you will better yoursectarian behaviour and help together to rebuilt Guams catholic Church.

      Daniel Lifschitz
      A Happy new Year, with Mary and Jesus,

      Daniel Lifschitz

      Pleas publish the last three replys


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    5. This blog is about what I think. If you want a blog about what you think then start one.

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    6. Dear Tim,
      thanks that you published almost my last comment.
      I am surely not interested to start my one blog about Guam. I have my one, in italian; http: Nelnomedimariaegesù.ch Almost a year past since I visited last time.
      Anyhow there are interesting posts against Kiko other biblical themes, Islam ecc., and a Musical: "Israel, dove vai?" that you can find also on youtube. Duration 2h.20"
      My idea about blogs is that they do need a direction, but that they shall give also voice to other opinions, if they are not disturbing the trend of the blog.
      I think this was my case. Arrivederci a Guam!

      Daniel Lifschitz

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  4. Fr. Adrian Cristobal is not very pastoral.

    It is probably a smart move to keep him busy with church paperwork and away from the people.

    If he is not going to be defrocked, they have to stash him somewhere.

    Why punish the people of Umatac?

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  5. There is no doubt that Cristobal has been severely crippled in his ability to continue to function in any role in this diocese. He was at the center of everything that brought down the evil Apuronic dynasty. However, because once again the people on the street have been left in the dark, this will be seen as a reward for disobedience, especially if it is found to to be true that those same people are being made to pay for this.

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  6. This can become a good thing. He is being set up to fail. Not a bad move. If it took Monsignor David Q. (younger Q) over 8 years, I don't think Adrian will be back for a LONG while.

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    1. Adrian will fail studies. He simply lacks academic skill.
      Seriously, He will have to pay a ghost writer to prepare his papers.

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    2. This is most likely right, unless he goes to an NCW affiliated or friendly institution where they will give him their stamp of approval no matter what.
      Like the RMS has done here for the "graduated" presbyters

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  7. This is a bad dream! Really???? Reward this No Balls??? SMFH.

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  8. Adrian is VERY dim witted and not astute about studies at all. I am confident will not make it. Yes, the sad part about all this is OUR DIOCESE is footing the bill. I was hoping that Adrian would get "picked up" by another NCW based Diocese.

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    1. teacher:: Spell canon
      Adrian:...Capital 'K'( sounding it out)
      yep,he'll do well academically..LOL..

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  9. Hmmm. Maybe off-topic, but while Fr. Lito Abad was named Chancellor by Archbishop Hon on June 30th, he's no longer listed on the Archdiocesan website (http://www.aganaarch.org/curia-officials/) as such.

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    1. January 30th changes in Archdiocesan administration.

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  10. Back on topic...what about the Archdiocesan marriage tribunal? Still stacked?

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  11. While there is some consolation that Adrian is being sent out of Guam, this is clearly an indication that most church leaders choose to sweep the dirt under the rug in stead of taking care of the situation head on. It is the same response to sex abusers, shuffle them around, and they commit the same acts somewhere else within the church. When are these leaders ever going to learn? how many more innocent victims need to suffer? The actions of Adrian are clearly not one would expect from a priest, leading the flock of the Lord. This clown was proven to Lie numerous times, he is clearly disobedient, has taken advantage of his role as Chancellor to promote and propagate the cause of the NCW agenda with their plan to divide and overtake the Church, all the while aiding in the Cover up of sex abuse perpetrators, and the giving away of church assets. This guy should be defrocked instead of being promoted to study canon law. As a member of this Archdiocese, I am not willing to spend another penny on this character, he should not be allowed to extort any more of the resources of this archdiocese. I say the risk far outweighs the benefits. We should not be sending our problem child to other parishes, we do not need Adrian ruining other people's lives, in the capacity of a priest. Defrock Adrian is the only solution.

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  12. Why anyone drops a penny into the collection plates on Guam is beyond me... this is the age of information, and of the internet. Find an alternative charity; send your donations to support the church in places where they will not be used for nefarious purposes including the support/"education" of people like Adrian. The Guam church and its vatican connection seems to only understand the language of money, lawsuits, etc. being forced to do the right thing. What a pity and what an ongoing SCANDAL!! Kyrie eleison.

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    1. certainly would continue to hold money.

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    2. Adrian is really stupid.
      watching him study Canon Law will be a joke. He will not graduate he so stupid.

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    3. Imagine a cross dressing canon law student on the campus Catholic University. Imagine Tim blog readership will jump sky higher. Guam's dancing queen.
      Imagine him in bra bikini dancing in front of theological college washington DC National Shrine. This is a big Joke entertaing for blog readers.

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    4. Corrections Anon 9;47 AM..Adrian is not only Stupid as you stated...ADRIAN IS DUMB AND STUPID AMOUNT OTHER THINGS...He is a BIG JOKE...bottom line..

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    5. Is Adriana going to just walk into an institution of higher learning ....no admission qualifications? Doubt it. Adrianna, no smoking in canon law school.

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  13. agree frenchie sickening news. I suspect they are looking for a way to get him off island. sending him to school may be the only way to get him to leave Parish. If you remember years ago he wanted/started to study canon law but he could not finish. I doubt he will ever graduate with a canon law degrew but at least Archbishop Byrnes will get him out the way. But what a horror story.

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    1. The Fact that Archbishop Byrnes chose that road, is extremely disturbing. No matter the unintended consequences, the decision process, the total lack of regards of his "fellow priests" as he described them himself, the rush to "solve" an issue he obviously does NOT grasp at all, are as many red lights of warning for the future.
      While the Archbishop communicated better that his predecessor, his actions speak louder than any press conference he participated in so far.
      We shall need to be very careful from now on

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    2. yes Frenchie you are right. While we are happy adrian is going. What about our own priests who are more able to study and serve Archdiocese.What about Fr.Paul he could have gone to study canon law. There are others more able. This does show Archbishop Michael fail to comprehend situation. why not just allow Adrian to serve back in Denver or Boston. There is a parish in Boston ready to welcome him into ncw community.

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  14. This is not odd. This is shameful. Byrnes rewarded one of the masterminds behind the corruption and misdeeds and destruction of Apuron's reign of terror. He has rewarded a terrorist.

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  15. I guess Byrnes will have to learn the hard way and the only way he will "listen" is by stopping the money and continuing with the lawsuits where appropriate. Until he overcomes his learning curve, I will not refer to Byrnes as Archbishop anymore.

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    1. Archbishop Michael is a nice guy. Let's give him a few months to see if he can make a difference. I had hopes for him. Those hopes have dimed slightly but lets wait see.

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    2. That is what the Catholics of Guam had done for thirty years... "WAIT AND SEE". That is how AAA had ruined the "Belie,Hope, Faith, and Charity of a lot of the Chamorro Catholics, that is why a lot of the younger generation are no longer interested in the Catholic Teachings..., Wait and See???, the time to act is NOW. jescepedaofchalanpago

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    3. I understand that you Guam people are exasperated. But you dont have the right, if you are a Catholic, dear Anonymous, to speak in this way about your Bishop, who arrived just two month ago.
      I am afraid some of you Gays, if you continue in this behavior, will became heretics.
      With Apuron it was different: This snake revealed himself after some time what he was: a snake, and who rebelled against him, did well. Totally differend is your attitude against Bishop Byrnes. In this way you isolate him and help him not understand the real ecclesial situation of Guam.

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    4. Daniel, it is our diocese, not yours.

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    5. - Arguably comments such as "I'm not going to give the church a penny for the time being" are in the same ball park as "I've been giving the church millions upon millions" and not necessarily to be seen as setting either a good or a bad example.
      - Archbishop Byrnes, just the same as any bishop - whether dumped for life as in some countries or career-hopping in the U.S. model - is there to right wrongs. There have been no healthy feedback channels, anywhere in the RCC.
      - Tim has allowed comments saying let's see how Archbishop Byrnes acts over time. It may be that from where some of the Guam parishioners see it, the diocese is not yet functioning.
      - The main danger of heresy is in not praying for each other enough. Does the RCC - or the NCW - help people pray for each other? Glory Be said.
      - What really got to me was that I didn't understand how the Holy Spirit would go so far wrong. With my cismontane outlook I lack the extra layer of sophistication Italians, for example, have in placing bishops in the scheme of things - it relates to how much they are placed on pedestals, but at the same time it's not unknown for some people of an Italian-influenced outlook to kowtow to abuse of power. It may be that in Detroit, Abp Byrnes knew that the mere existence of a bishop doesn't make things cut and dried but there is work to do.
      - One of the things we have to be careful of is whether NCW members of a delicate conscience may re-direct an attitude to a bishop towards themselves. Address specific deeds and doers, and be more alert than in the past.
      - Church rows are no longer considered headline hitting in the UK press and the detail of ours is on the face of it different from Guam. I suspect that without the molestations, there would be lots of parishioners wanting to lay bare lots of other ills that have become associated with the NCW in Guam.
      - NCW is no longer solely about being an "itinerary" or "community" member. Much of its influence comes from bishops cosying up in dioceses or Vatican dicasteries, from volunteers volunteering at "projects", from people being appointed "church secretary".
      - Watchfulness is therefore essential, and fresh channels of feedback need hewing out of the monolith, rough diamonds and all. That's not the show-off, cynical "need for conversion" of the NCW, as long as we seek out Jesus to send His help every step. When diocesan officials don't listen in private, that's a heavy blow against those who have got concerns. Agana diocesan officials are unused to a healthy culture and they all need support to engage their better side and I am thinking mostly of those who had a better side all along. (I am going by what I see in my own locality.)
      - The NCW isn't the only source of ills - it is a carbon copy of phenomena that have appeared in the RCC one after another over centuries - but certain ills have become closely tied in with it in lots of places, as is to be expected from its fatalistic Jansenist-Ockhamist outlook.

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    6. Dear Tim,
      I am Catholic, and "my and your Diocese" is nonsense, especally today, when we know in the same second what happens in Guam and Switzerland or Swaziland.
      If you are so interested to separate "your" Diocese from "mine", please stop Jungle Watch and the messages you send dayly around the world.
      Arrividerci a Guam, if Bishop Byrnes invite me. Then it will for the time I will pass with you gays "my" Diocese and I hope you will
      collaborate with me for the good of "your" church.
      If one thinks like you, Tim, St Paul should have never left Tarsus for Antiochia and Jerusalem, and walk from there around all the Mediterranean sea, to found or rinforce the faith in Christ.
      The Church is Catholic!

      Greetings in Mary and Jesus,

      Daniel Lifschitz

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    7. LOL. I see that you are still a Kiko. I publish your comments as a warning to ANYONE who even thinks of inviting you.

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  16. What to do with a “bad” priest?

    This is the fundamental problem in general terms:

    What is a bishop to do with a “bad” priest, someone who should never have been ordained?

    Ordination is of a sacramental character, changing the nature of the man ordained. It also imposes liabilities and obligations by the (arch)diocese to the priest, under canon law.

    If priestly shortcomings or misconduct are not of such an extent as to warrant laicizing or defrocking, he has to be put somewhere.

    It is easy to complain about poor clerical performance, but quite another thing to meet the criteria and complete the process for laicization. And to decide where to assign such a priest temporarily or permanently until then.

    If the faithful think a particular priest needs to be defrocked, we should research under canon law exactly what would be valid grounds for doing so, gather evidence of same, and provide it to the appropriate ecclesiastical authority -- in this case our Coadjutor Archbishop.

    A few critical blog comments by readers will not suffice.

    This all highlights the central importance of discernment before ordination, by both the candidate and his superiors.

    (If Archbishop Apuron ordained Fr. Cristobal due to blackmail, that could weigh against the Archbishop at his canonical trial. Could that also “annul” the latter’s ordination?)

    This priestly discernment issue also highlights the urgency of shutting down the RMS presbyter factory.

    Prayerful best wishes for a joyous Christmas season throughout the Islas Marianas.

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    1. CNMI lawyer well Said.
      CNMI faces situations soon need to be made public

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  17. My gut tells me Byrnes is just another grinning Vatican puppet. Continue to withhold funds from the Archdiocese until he cleans up his act.

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    1. Extreme caution is the path to go.certainly no need to pour money into the Archdiocese until we see Trust restored.

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  18. Archbishop Brynes is not a permenant part of life on Guam. He will just assist in restoring much needed unity. Strongly suspect around 2020 there will be an attempt to place Adrian as bishop.
    Archbishop Byrnes is a good man we should not blast him. Likeable kind of fellow. However, he is also just a pawn in a last attempt for neo to keep control of Guam.
    we should be respectful to him because he is a good man but be cautious. He is being used.
    Situation with Adrian may not be such a bad fact if true. In fairness to Archbishop Byrnes he would better be served by Adrian being away from Guam for at least three years. Same with David.
    Archbishop Michael should be given the space to make his own plans on how best to restore order.
    Given the abuse cases already filed and more to come in January its best Archbishop Michael surrounds himself with new faces. Faces of priests people who are trusted respected.
    I admit it is sickening as it seems Adrian is rewarded for his evil. But i don't see it as a reward. I see it as a mutual agreed path where by it is a win win situation for now.
    Remember also Adrian is independent with his own family resources. For all we know he could be financing his own studies vacation. Frenchie knows more than I. But I see this as a path to remove him for at least three years to give Archbishop Michael space.
    Given more abuse cases that will come to surface in weeks to come best to see new trusted people in leadership positions.

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  19. I have a feeling there will be a silver lining around this new cloud. God works in mysterious ways!

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    1. well said Andrew!

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    2. He also works through men.

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    3. Did Archbishop Byrnes do wrong or right in this his most recent move? Who are we to prove him wrong or right? He may have had some ulterior good end in mind for doing so. Who really knows? And then again he may be playing a gambit which chessmaster Filoni is baiting him into. Never underestimate the sinister influence of the NCW (via Filoni) in all this!

      For lack of more concrete and convincing scenarios (not that I have any reason to doubt Frenchie’s intel), I wish to agree with Andrew Camacho that there might (underline might) be a silver lining in all this – in the end! Who knows? For myself, however, I can only speculate that many of us who are opposed to the triumvirate administration of Apuron are not in concurrence with Archbishop Byrnes’ action, and feel somewhat betrayed by the archbishop’s seeming benign gesture. It does not smack of the right thing to do; it does not smack of justice.

      Perhaps just as much as we need to put ourselves in Archbishop Byrnes’ shoes to fully understand the reason for his action, Archbishop Byrnes needs to put himself in ourselves who have gone through “thick and thin” with this triumvirate, to fully understand our questioning of his action. Perhaps Archbishop Byrnes may wish to share the rationale for his action with us, the Laity, who might just make this an issue in upcoming protests and pickets.

      I may not be "politically correct" in making this comment via this venue, but I believe this opinion needed to be made. (JRSA: 12/24/16)

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    4. Andrew, you and Tim are both correct...God does work in Mysterious ways and He definitely works through men..Who would think that Any of the Victims would start coming forward after Decades of silence..Biggest surprised was when the mother of one of the victims came forward unexpectedly..Now the rest of them are slowly coming forward too..

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  20. And what a reward for Cristobal!
    as they say in Roman Curias: "a Master in Canon Law is basically a prerequisite for a Bishop career".

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    1. there is really no reward for the ailing cristobal. He is really history now. As CNMI lawyer rightly says the problem is what to do with a priest like cristobal?
      Given comments today it is evident he is one of the most hated priests on Island today.
      He really is hated by everyone. So best he leaves. Young people spit on the pavement when they see him. so for peace and order its best he leaves. othwrwise highly possible street riots uprisings againat him and others who covered avuse.
      our protestors mild good women. If young people of Guam are motivated to take to protests we will have Guam uprising againat neo Adrian. Best he leaves for a greater good . Peace in our Church.

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  21. Adrian blow job "the way" through canon law studies

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  22. Maybe Byrnes is just giving cristobal enough rope to hang himself. While cristobal is in the mainland, away from prying eyes, he will indulge himself in his perversions, which, in this day of social media, will be found out and exposed.

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    1. A simple sabbatical would have provided the opportunity. The off to canon law thing smells of Filoni.

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    2. Correct a simple sabbatical would have been best for Adrian. He could have helped in a soup kitchen run by missionaries of chariry. He could have helped build homes habitat for humanity
      for homeless. But no Adrian only thinks of himself.

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  23. we have contacts in most canon law programs in europe @ north america. Junglewatch closely follow Adrian's moves.

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  24. 5 years in a Trapist Monastery would have been justice for the people. I would contribute to that end for Adrian. After 5 years, he would be evaluated and we will see if he is reformed. If not, back to the Monastery or be defrocked.

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    1. No matter what you do with Adrian you will never change him.Best to place him in a situation where he can do least damage. In a school if he treats fellow students badly they will make his life difficult.He has no authority as a student. As a pastor he did. To prevent Adrian damaging others send him to school. priests sisters laymen/women will soon shoot him down.

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  25. Tim, why not give adrian a going away present: a lawsuit!

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  26. Wow, what did the Trappist do to deserve Adrian. Don't wish it on him.

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  27. Adrian Cristobal becoming a Canon Lawyer?

    Bwahahaha hahhahahahhahahahhahhahahahahahahhahhahahhhhhhhhahahahahhahhhhahahhahhaaaa!

    Abp. Bynes is pure genius! Tim, that guy will never make it! Quitugua took a thousand years to finish his and he can't even use it because he's always sick.

    Way to get rid of Cristobal! Taotao Umatac are rejoicing!


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  28. In Rome they call this "promoveatur ut amoveatur" give a promotion to someone having the intent to remove him. Usually works. Give trust to Byrnes, he will bring healing.

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  29. The Irony of the situation: Adrian would be studying the very laws he violated.

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    1. I wonder if he'll notice that!

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    2. The evil doers have placed all of you - including Abp Byrnes - in a lose-lose-lose situation. A true bishop, perhaps the Pope might say, will be seen to get his hands and face dirty (and not in the neo show-off way). The Apostle Paul was criticised for this. Maybe Daniel has inadvertently omitted mention of the fact that we need to bear witness to our damage. Daniel I've not read your books yet but you could be an invaluable ally because as fellow high-up in the NCW programme movement, we hope you can help control the controllers, unlike us. In the Christian faith, testimony as to rights and wrongs - in the context Jesus laid down - is all important. We are Nil Carborundum Witnesses, in our various dioceses! In a world where there have not been healthy channels hitherto, it will take a long time before we can be assured there are going to be healthy channels. I've appeared to forget that when making some of my own comments, myself.

      My old bishop, having been hoodwinked along with us, courageously turned coat and together with a helper tried to rescue us NCW members. Their brave efforts were sabotaged by a church organist approaching the press to drive us back in the arms of the NCW programme movement for lots more years and several more suicides. Abp Byrne will take guidance in good part I'm sure. We have to watch the impact of our line on more delicate consciences, of unobtrusive people that are not apparently worthy of hate.

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  30. Yes, Sandavi is right, Vatican policy uses "promoveatur et amoveatur" and Bishop Byrnes seems to act according to it. It is apparently a contradiction to common sense, but in fact it would be easier having that Cristobal under control supposedly studying Cannon Law than staying in Guam.
    By the way, Feliz Navidad for all JW people and a warm huge for Sandavi and his family!

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  31. someone obviously advised byrnes about adrian and this assignment. the question is, who? david c? did adrian himself pitched this idea to byrnes?

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  32. Archbishop adrian cristobal!

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  33. It's understandable that we would want to give Byrnes the benefit of the doubt, but there is grave reason to believe that Filoni is calling the shots. Coincidental that the move came soon after I laid out unarguable grounds for a defamation suit.

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    1. Even if this were conceived as an NCW Cult “golden parachute”, it could be worse.

      Remember four arguments by the Angelic Doctor on the problem of evil:

      1) Free will
      2) Imperfect knowledge
      3) Good from evil
      4) Redemptive suffering

      When life gives you lemons, make lemonade! Or lemon butter, kelaguen, lemon zest, or a mixed drink -- half empty or half full (as other commenters have alluded to). World War II proved yet gain that Guamanians are a resilient, optimistic people.

      Either way, thank you, Tim, and please keep up the good work. You are entirely right not to give up our vigilance and watchfulness, the same practiced by the shepherds and three wise men.

      I’m sure a civil lawsuit would do “wonders” for the studies of the many church laws Fr. Cristobal may have himself violated so often and grievously. What marvelous rehabilitative justice!

      But if not, there are many other ways for the truth to be revealed, and for justice and mercy to kiss. Especially for the survivors, but even for the perpetrators and enablers (If they are truly contrite).

      Felis Påsgua yan Åñu Nuebu!

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    2. CNMI lawyer my friend. Justice is very slow but when it grinds it grinds exceedingly fine.
      Keep your eyes open..... CNMI will be news soon......

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    3. The only problem in the case of Adrian, is the lemon is rotten, and not worth crap. The only solution is to discard it.

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  34. Haha never happy when it is not The way you want.

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    1. LOL. Should we be? Only Kiko's are happy with evil.

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  35. Dejavue (time repeats itself). When Apuron was elevated to Archbishop, he sent David who had very little pastoral experience to study Canon Law. The late +Monsignor Zoilo Camacho held the Vicar General Post at that time and stepped down to being the Chancelor when sickly David returned after sooo many years with his doctorate in Canon Law.

    With the sad state of financials suffered by this Archdiocese, thanks to Apuron and company, why would they reward a person that blatantly disobeyd a decree to become pastoral to another parish? There are many men of the cloth that are more deserving. Are we to assume that this NEO Cult Presbyter will one day return and become the Vicar General. Such an event would be an insult to the progresses we have made to date.

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  36. Adrian barely made it at St. Patrick's . Like what other priests where saying he should not even made it if it wasn't for Apuron. So by sending him to Rome maybe the canon law school will see this and recommend him be stripped or reassigned a lesser role to ride out until his retirement. Just a thought of what Might be his plan in dealing with a problemed priest.

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  37. When Byrnes was first announced for Guam, he publicly stated that he didn't even know where it was. That was a bad start in my book.

    I don't expect him to become sincerely committed to Guam or its people. He'll just go through the motions for a few years without making waves until he's kicked upstairs and returned to the US Mainland.

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    1. yes true 9.48am. Archbishop Byrnes is just a pawn. By keeping peace for about four years he will be rewarded with a plumb mainland Archdiocese. Thats ok. Infact Monsignor James could still become the next Archbishop of Guam. I don't see Archbishop Byrnes going beyond four years.

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  38. If Fiioni gave instructions to AB Byrnes in the handling of the affairs of the Archdiocese, isn’t it apparent that the people that are responsible for all that is going on in the church in Guam are still in power, and calling the shots?

    So Fr. Paul and Msgr. James got their names cleared and given positions in the church, the title of the RMS property is back in the patrimony of the church, Quitugua, Adrian, Alberto, Pius are removed and Apuron is apparently going through a canonical trial.

    Is this all just a ruse to keep us quite? Quitugua, Adrian, Alberto and Pius were never disciplined for any of their involvement, and we are told by these same masterminds in power that Apuron is undergoing canonical trial, really?

    Apuron is possibly back in SF partying the night away, Adrian being sent to further his education, Pius comes and goes as if nothing has happened, Quitugua is enjoying life with no stress of being VG, RMS continues daily operation even after being found to be deficient in its formation programs.

    And recently the law lifting the statue of limitation for sex abuse victims to sue their offender is being question and may be challenged.

    Above all, the NCW continues to exist on the island, somewhat quiet and low key.

    Even after all the exposure of evil doing these past few years, the fact that the instruments of all these activities are still in our presence, indicates that we must continue to gird our loins, roll up our sleeves and get on our knees, for our fight is not with man, as St. Paul admonishes us “For we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.”Eph 6:12

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    1. Extremely well summarized, and your last paragraph is absolutely spot on.

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    2. Dear anon @1.45, you resume the situation perfectly.

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  39. Putrid Pius, someone is looking for you. You know who.

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  40. Our Mission, should you decide to accept it, Mr. Phelps, is to expose Cardinal Filoni, the Prefect for the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples in the Vatican, and their evil deeds on Guam. He is not to be the next Pope. Mission: NOT Impossible!

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  41. NCW CULT OUT!
    NO FILONI BALONEY!

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  42. I don't want to be part of a church with a puppet pope controlled by Kiko. I hope Cardinal Filoni will break free from Kiko and that AB Byrnes will be freed to see justice done on Guam

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    1. If you leave the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church, that means the NCW Cult wins.

      Never give up. Stand firm in your Faith, no matter how pervasive the NCW Cult influence.

      Pray for the grace of Final Perseverance.

      If we pray together, God will hear us.

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