Doris Concepcion, of Prescott, Ariz., says her son, Joseph A. Quinata, told her he was molested by Archbishop Anthony Apuron of Guam. Quinata died 11 years ago. Video was produced by David Wallace of The Arizona Republic.
http://www.guampdn.com/story/news/2016/05/30/mother-deceased-man-accuses-apuron-molesting-son/84888594/
AND FROM ADRIAN THE STUPID:
“In the past days, malicious and calumnious accusations against the Archbishop have surfaced, even from a deceased person,” Father Adrian L.F. Cristobal, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Agana, said in a statement. “The Archbishop strongly denies this accusation as he had done so before.”
OH GEEZ!
Cristobal added that “Archbishop Anthony urges the faithful not to be afraid, to stand for the truth and he asks for continued prayers.”
OH GEEZ!
Cristobal added that “Archbishop Anthony urges the faithful not to be afraid, to stand for the truth and he asks for continued prayers.”
SICKENING!
“(Apuron) would ask me if he can have Sonny, because Sonny would do this and that, and he needs help around the rectory,” Concepcion said. “And then he wants Sonny to spend the night with him so they can go and do something for the church, and he needed help. Sonny would retaliate, and say, ‘No, mama, I don’t wanna go,’ and I would punish him. No, you have to go, because Father Apuron needs help.”
SO SAD. SO SAD.
“I have no reason to not to believe my son,” she said. “He didn’t want to take it to his grave.”
"I DON'T THINK HE EVER WILL."
All I want is for him, if he has a conscience, to admit the truth and do what’s best for the people. That’s what I want him to do, but I don’t think he ever will. But that is my message for him.”
"AND APURON IS USING THE CHURCH"
“I’m not putting our church down,” Concepcion said, “No, we the people are the church. That’s what makes the church — us — and (Apuron is) using the church.”
My Interview with Patti Arroyo this morning
STATEMENT BY SNAP
Mother of second alleged victim of archbishop speaks, Victims respond
http://www.guampdn.com/story/news/2016/05/30/mother-deceased-man-accuses-apuron-molesting-son/84888594/
Statement by Joelle Casteix of Newport Beach, CA, Western Regional Director of SNAP, Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAPNetwork.org) (jcasteix@gmail.com, 949-322-7434 cell)
Our hearts ache for Doris Concepcion, who has so bravely spoken out about the abuse her son endured.
Parents of sexual abuse victims carry an awful and painful burden. Ms. Concepcion only wanted the best for her son. She had no idea that she was possibly putting her child in the path of a predator. We hope that Ms. Concepcion finds the peace and healing she so deeply deserves. Her powerful words and story have made is safer for victims of abuse everywhere—no matter the predator—to come forward and find healing and justice.
Two brave people have now come forward to allege child sexual abuse at the hands of Archbishop Apuron. The time for "internal investigations," bullying parishioners, and maintaining the status quo is over.
It is time for the Vatican and Pope Francis to adhere to their promises of child safety. They must immediately step in and publicly remove Apuron from his office until a complete and independent investigation is complete.
In the meantime, Apuron should and must do the right thing and voluntarily step aside. No cleric, especially an archbishop, should remain in ministry when he has two credible allegations of abuse that have not been investigated.
We implore other victims to come forward to law enforcement and civil authorities. As Roy Quintanilla and Doris Concepcion have shown Guam's victims of abuse, help and support are available.
(SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, is the world’s oldest and largest support group for clergy abuse victims. SNAP was founded in 1988 and has more than 20,000 members. Despite the word “priest” in our title, we have members who were molested by religious figures of all denominations, including nuns, rabbis, bishops, and Protestant ministers. Our website is SNAPnetwork.org)
Contact - Joelle Casteix (949-322-7434 cell, jcasteix@gmail.com), Barbara Dorris (314-503-0003 cell, bdorris@SNAPnetwork.org), Barbara Blaine (312-399-4747, bblaine@snapnetwork.org)
Joelle Casteix is offering a Kindle Version of her book for free for a limited time:
The Well-Armored Teen: Easy Tools Protect Your Teen and Tween From Sexual Abuse, Bullying, and Exploitation
NOTE FROM CNMI LAWYER
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SO SAD. SO SAD.
“I have no reason to not to believe my son,” she said. “He didn’t want to take it to his grave.”
"I DON'T THINK HE EVER WILL."
All I want is for him, if he has a conscience, to admit the truth and do what’s best for the people. That’s what I want him to do, but I don’t think he ever will. But that is my message for him.”
"AND APURON IS USING THE CHURCH"
“I’m not putting our church down,” Concepcion said, “No, we the people are the church. That’s what makes the church — us — and (Apuron is) using the church.”
My Interview with Patti Arroyo this morning
STATEMENT BY SNAP
Mother of second alleged victim of archbishop speaks, Victims respond
http://www.guampdn.com/story/news/2016/05/30/mother-deceased-man-accuses-apuron-molesting-son/84888594/
Statement by Joelle Casteix of Newport Beach, CA, Western Regional Director of SNAP, Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAPNetwork.org) (jcasteix@gmail.com, 949-322-7434 cell)
Our hearts ache for Doris Concepcion, who has so bravely spoken out about the abuse her son endured.
Parents of sexual abuse victims carry an awful and painful burden. Ms. Concepcion only wanted the best for her son. She had no idea that she was possibly putting her child in the path of a predator. We hope that Ms. Concepcion finds the peace and healing she so deeply deserves. Her powerful words and story have made is safer for victims of abuse everywhere—no matter the predator—to come forward and find healing and justice.
Two brave people have now come forward to allege child sexual abuse at the hands of Archbishop Apuron. The time for "internal investigations," bullying parishioners, and maintaining the status quo is over.
It is time for the Vatican and Pope Francis to adhere to their promises of child safety. They must immediately step in and publicly remove Apuron from his office until a complete and independent investigation is complete.
In the meantime, Apuron should and must do the right thing and voluntarily step aside. No cleric, especially an archbishop, should remain in ministry when he has two credible allegations of abuse that have not been investigated.
We implore other victims to come forward to law enforcement and civil authorities. As Roy Quintanilla and Doris Concepcion have shown Guam's victims of abuse, help and support are available.
(SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, is the world’s oldest and largest support group for clergy abuse victims. SNAP was founded in 1988 and has more than 20,000 members. Despite the word “priest” in our title, we have members who were molested by religious figures of all denominations, including nuns, rabbis, bishops, and Protestant ministers. Our website is SNAPnetwork.org)
Contact - Joelle Casteix (949-322-7434 cell, jcasteix@gmail.com), Barbara Dorris (314-503-0003 cell, bdorris@SNAPnetwork.org), Barbara Blaine (312-399-4747, bblaine@snapnetwork.org)
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The Well-Armored Teen: Easy Tools Protect Your Teen and Tween From Sexual Abuse, Bullying, and Exploitation
NOTE FROM CNMI LAWYER
CNMI LawyerMay 31, 2016 at 9:33 AM
The decedent’s statement is admissible hearsay.
When molestation survivor Joseph A. Quinata made his statement to his mother Doris Concepcion about what happened to him at age 11, he expressly did so because he was about to undergo surgery for a perforated intestine, with only a 30% likelihood of survival, and did in fact pass away shortly thereafter.
Under the law, statements made under the belief of imminent death about the cause of death, such as “He shot me,” are an exception to the normal rule excluding hearsay testimony from court proceedings. Fed. R. Evid. 804(b)(2).
Statements in the face of imminent death about other matters are also admissible under the Residual Exception, where “the statement has equivalent circumstantial guarantees of trustworthiness.” Fed. R. Evid. 807(a)(1).
This is significant because it greatly increases the likelihood of admissibility of Joseph A. Quinata’s statement in any civil or criminal case where it may be relevant.
The hearsay statements of other survivors who are now unavailable (whether through death or an unwillingness to relive the psychological trauma) may very well also be admissible under the Residual Exception, based upon independent indicia of reliability.
But because Joseph A. Quinata’s statement was made under the belief of imminent death, it is quite literally a nail in the coffin of the clerical careers of Guam NCW Cult leaders Archbishop Apuron, Father Sammut, Father Cristobal, et al.
St. Thomas Aquinas posited at least four possible reasons for human suffering, as when a loved one passes away. (1) Free will. (2) Imperfect knowledge. (3) Good from evil. (4) Redemptive suffering -- in union with Christ.
The grief and sorrow experienced by his family upon the death of Joseph A. Quinata may indeed lead directly and proximately to a great spiritual good (# 3), the dissolution of the Guam NCW Cult Leadership.
They should step aside temporarily before they are removed permanently. Let us pray that their counsel gives sound legal advice.
May the faithful of the Archdiocese be strengthened to stand up and speak out for what is right, and to support those in our midst who have suffered and continue to suffer from this criminal conspiracy.
St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!
When molestation survivor Joseph A. Quinata made his statement to his mother Doris Concepcion about what happened to him at age 11, he expressly did so because he was about to undergo surgery for a perforated intestine, with only a 30% likelihood of survival, and did in fact pass away shortly thereafter.
Under the law, statements made under the belief of imminent death about the cause of death, such as “He shot me,” are an exception to the normal rule excluding hearsay testimony from court proceedings. Fed. R. Evid. 804(b)(2).
Statements in the face of imminent death about other matters are also admissible under the Residual Exception, where “the statement has equivalent circumstantial guarantees of trustworthiness.” Fed. R. Evid. 807(a)(1).
This is significant because it greatly increases the likelihood of admissibility of Joseph A. Quinata’s statement in any civil or criminal case where it may be relevant.
The hearsay statements of other survivors who are now unavailable (whether through death or an unwillingness to relive the psychological trauma) may very well also be admissible under the Residual Exception, based upon independent indicia of reliability.
But because Joseph A. Quinata’s statement was made under the belief of imminent death, it is quite literally a nail in the coffin of the clerical careers of Guam NCW Cult leaders Archbishop Apuron, Father Sammut, Father Cristobal, et al.
St. Thomas Aquinas posited at least four possible reasons for human suffering, as when a loved one passes away. (1) Free will. (2) Imperfect knowledge. (3) Good from evil. (4) Redemptive suffering -- in union with Christ.
The grief and sorrow experienced by his family upon the death of Joseph A. Quinata may indeed lead directly and proximately to a great spiritual good (# 3), the dissolution of the Guam NCW Cult Leadership.
They should step aside temporarily before they are removed permanently. Let us pray that their counsel gives sound legal advice.
May the faithful of the Archdiocese be strengthened to stand up and speak out for what is right, and to support those in our midst who have suffered and continue to suffer from this criminal conspiracy.
St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!
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Oh the pain of that mother. The guilt she must be enduring knowing that she repeatedly sent her son to that monster. Heartbreaking
ReplyDeleteFor those inclined to further comment below, there is no letter T in “Concepcion”.
DeleteThe decedent’s statement is admissible hearsay.
DeleteWhen molestation survivor Joseph A. Quinata made his statement to his mother Doris Concepcion about what happened to him at age 11, he expressly did so because he was about to undergo surgery for a perforated intestine, with only a 30% likelihood of survival, and did in fact pass away shortly thereafter.
Under the law, statements made under the belief of imminent death about the cause of death, such as “He shot me,” are an exception to the normal rule excluding hearsay testimony from court proceedings. Fed. R. Evid. 804(b)(2).
Statements in the face of imminent death about other matters are also admissible under the Residual Exception, where “the statement has equivalent circumstantial guarantees of trustworthiness.” Fed. R. Evid. 807(a)(1).
This is significant because it greatly increases the likelihood of admissibility of Joseph A. Quinata’s statement in any civil or criminal case where it may be relevant.
The hearsay statements of other survivors who are now unavailable (whether through death or an unwillingness to relive the psychological trauma) may very well also be admissible under the Residual Exception, based upon independent indicia of reliability.
But because Joseph A. Quinata’s statement was made under the belief of imminent death, it is quite literally a nail in the coffin of the clerical careers of Guam NCW Cult leaders Archbishop Apuron, Father Sammut, Father Cristobal, et al.
St. Thomas Aquinas posited at least four possible reasons for human suffering, as when a loved one passes away. (1) Free will. (2) Imperfect knowledge. (3) Good from evil. (4) Redemptive suffering -- in union with Christ.
The grief and sorrow experienced by his family upon the death of Joseph A. Quinata may indeed lead directly and proximately to a great spiritual good (# 3), the dissolution of the Guam NCW Cult Leadership.
They should step aside temporarily before they are removed permanently. Let us pray that their counsel gives sound legal advice.
May the faithful of the Archdiocese be strengthened to stand up and speak out for what is right, and to support those in our midst who have suffered and continue to suffer from this criminal conspiracy.
St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!
I was wrong about age 11.
DeleteHis death was 11 years ago. Since he was younger than the first Agat survivor to go public, he was likely younger when the abuse started.
Anon 7:22am, I know that but Spell Check caught it and spelled it wrong. Hehehe
DeleteA truly heartbreaking account of one boy's suffering and a lifetime of torment from the memories.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Doris Conception, for speaking out. May your words and the words of Roy Quintanilla give courage to others who are waiting to speak for themselves.
Silent No More!
To think two weeks ago, instead of publishing the six candidates for the NEO Cult Presbyteriat in the official KAKA filled NEO Cult Newspaper, they decide to slam Roy in the front page...sure looks like a whole lot of our money has again been wasted in their NEO cult propaganda....
ReplyDeleteAdd on the abuse from the priest that Apuron covered up. Come on Rome. Help us out here! He should step aside, which would be the right thing to do. Then again he has never done the right or honest thing!
ReplyDeleteMy prayers go out to Mrs. Conception and for the soul of Sonny. My family continue to pray for all, most especially the victims.
ReplyDeleteTim, I just listened to your interview with Patti Arroyo. Is there such a thing as an annulment for ordination if it can be shown that the seminarian did not have the proper formation or that the bishop was coerced to do the ordination?
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like they are using a "Template", probably from the books of a trained lawyer, or a fifth-grade education book "for sure, for sure" or a course for ESL's "ArchBishop's 100% sure"...and now Adri-Anna's "malicious and calumnious"....they are sharing the same Thesaurus as Archie "Love-Nuts" Apuron or are people up on the hill out of words?
ReplyDeleteTa fan tatayi i familian Concepcion/Quinata yan Quintanilla.
CALUMNIOUS is a rather big word for Adrian. Doubtful he composed that most recent denial. CALUMNIOUS, right.
DeleteNo Balls has to step in, since Monkey balls can't make his statements to defend Likey youth balls.
DeleteJust watch the video of Mrs. Concepcion. It's heartbreaking. Who you gonna believe? The chancery and their BS video skits telling us it never happened and to keep faith in the Archbishop or a someone with a real message that only exudes the TRUTH??
ReplyDeleteTony's actions are just so horrific.
ReplyDeleteThe victims are painfully specific!
Now is the time for all victims to speak out,
For the Church to listen and not shut out.
And for Tony to leave the Pacific!
My prayers for all victims and their families!
Now is the time for healing, which we can see is now starting to happen. All victims should come out for true healing. Now is the time.
Feeling sorry for Tony Apurons family. Embarrassed for ever.
DeleteSimply heartbreaking.
ReplyDeleteOnce again, strong statements of denials coming from the Chancery, The Archbishop, should step aside immediately and should do whatever he needs to do to address this situation. He is however, refusing to step down and continues to deflect and deny these allegations. The truth will come out in the end and we the flock will reflect back that all the denials were a mere attempt to salvage his "good name". We will see once and for all that Apruon deliberately lied to safe his skin. Remember that you are still duty-bound to be truthful since you are still the Shepherd of your abandoned flock. You have a greater responsibility to the Truth because of the position that you have. Once again do what is right and step down. Tell your handlers that you at least want to do one last honorable act. You must do the honorable thing and resign. Remember you are affection the Church and the Laity by stringing this scandal longer.
ReplyDeleteDoris my prayers thoughts are with you.
ReplyDeleteThe pain you have suffered is beyond any words i can express.
ARCHBISHOP Apuron it is no longer just a few people a nation asks you to Resign!
ReplyDeleteThe decades of pain Doris has carried
Cannot be shouted down by Guam Chancery.
Mothers do not lie. I also believe Statement of CNMI lawyer. Those who are in possible danger of death tell their loved ones the truth.
For Doris to have lived with this pain and to remain balanced is a grace from God.
It reminds me of our Blessed Mother at the foot of the cross watching in pain the anguish of Our Lord. Every mother throughout the world reading this story needs to reflect on the testimony of Doris.
One thing we all have to face is that Apuron and his co-conspirators can continue to LIE AND LIE AND LIE AND LIE. They've been doing it for years and it has been working. No need for them to change course now. They seem to give no thought to their eternal fate. Their earthly power is all that appears to matter.
ReplyDeleteThis has worked for them because they are sure the people, the vast majority, will stay silent, or at least "anonymous." It's true. We have to face facts. The only reality they have to face is what shows upon this blog and an occasional news story that has only a life for a few days. Then it all goes away and we go back to the same parishes and hand over our money.
There is only one way to flush Apuron and his cronies out and that is to financially break the diocese. I have no hope that will happen. Most people are too vested in their parishes, their positions in those parishes, their status quo. Apuron knows this and is counting on it. He knows you like air con and will keep it running at all costs.
Meanwhile, all this suffering of people like Roy and Doris and who knows how many others will be for nothing since Apuron can simply call them liars, plan his next trip, and ordain more presbyters, which of course will one day push all of you out of your status quo's, but then it will be too late.
There is absolutely NO other way. You must turn off the finances, period. I know that real priests are willing to put up with whatever suffering this may bring, including saying Mass in a war torn battlefield if it comes to that.
How many "Sonny's" are out there? Rotting away on the inside because an evil man grabbed his genitals or worse when he was only 8? Never mind. Have a nice day and enjoy your next fiesta.
I posted this a short time ago but it bears repeating:
ReplyDeleteThe Perfect Crime
1. Victim is young and innocent
2. Perpetrator is older and in a position of authority.
3. Victim is so traumatised by the abuse he/she is unable to speak about it.
4. Much time passes and the statute of limitations takes effect.
6. Perpetrator is off the hook and gets away with the crime, free and clear.
7. Repeat # 1 through 6.
Wake up Guam! Speak out! Silent No More!!!
Realize this.....PLEASE.......ROME WILL NOT HELP!!! We, the laity, must fight this Tyrant and his Posse. This CANCER NEEDS TO BE STOPPED....NOW!!!
ReplyDeleteSo wait, Pope Francis visiting with George Clooney and Apuron the molester is still holding his Episcopate and running around the face of the earth with OJ?? Okaaaaay.
ReplyDeleteHope Luis is keeping up with the news. All the way from Kuttah!
ReplyDeleteOnly now was i able to listen to the video of Doris. One can hear her weeping before the video begins. Very very disturbing .
ReplyDeleteArchbishop Apuron remove yourself and allow independent investigation fo take place. You are a disgraceful man i have always known it. Face of satan himself.
This is unfortunate, if it can be proven. So far, these are only allegations and I don't see why either one of the parties are calling for a hearing in a court of law.
ReplyDeleteWell then let me help you out. There is something called a Statute of Limitations which prevents a victim fro pursuing legal action against an assailant after a certain period. Child molesters are excellent at using this system. They know the children they molest don't know anything about bringing charges against them and by the time they do the statute would be expired. Such is the case for the two victims. They have no way to pursue this in court. They need Apuron to sue them for defamation as he has threatened in order for this to go to court. Apuron won't.
DeleteI think all the Catholic school principals should ban the Archbishop from visiting their campuses until an investigation is carried out! Show support for your students!
ReplyDeleteI second that motion. Protect our children from this pedophile in sheep's clothing.
DeleteOh my dear Lord, that is one of the saddest things I've ever heard. That poor lady. May God protect her and keep her and may the soul of her poor son and all the faithful departed rest in peace.
ReplyDeleteHow can you sit by after watching that video? There is hardly any need for courts when you see this mother's broken heart. I think of the Pieta....
Not only the Archbishop, but anyone who supports him until he steps aside should be shunned and publicly criticized.
There are still many, too many people silent. What will it take?
DeleteI agree there are still many people silent and what will it take but by not putting a name to that statement, I am afraid you are just one more of the silent people. Outraged people should not be afraid to put a name to their feelings. Criticizing without a name or face has little impact. If you are afraid then perhaps just use initials.
Delete4:42 you would be amazed sir at the moves anonymous contributors are doing. Don't forget Apuron still has a lot of power. Look upon us as partisans in the forest.
DeleteGod Bless You, Doris Concepcion. Please know that my thoughts and prayers are with you and your son "Sonny" and may he Rest in Peace.
ReplyDeleteApuron is one sick and depraved dude. Chancellor Adrian is no better after his knee jerk response. Edivaldo likes sex, sex and sex. Deacon Tenorio is too flush with money from the church organizations he runs for Apuron. The VG as usual is hiding. All worthless.
ReplyDeleteAlso very correct Anon at 4.09. Except that Adrian has used his own knowledge of these crimes for his own personal benefit and advancement in the hierarchy. Pretty good for a priest that was not endorsed by the board of the St Patrick seminary, but was ordained anyway.
DeleteThe others are abetting after the fact.
That includes May who is digging herself deeper and deeper into trouble.
4:09 not much for new Bishop to operate with. Soon we'll be up to around 20 Kiko presbyters. This is a freakin nightmare
DeleteOf course Pius has the goods. He's Br Tons spiritual director. Br Ton, were you sincere with the brothers in Neo community? The bigger the sin the better, after all. I doubt it. You just sat there and grooved on everyone else's sins. And mentioned them a few times too. Whoops, shouldn't have mentioned that. But you did. Good luck guys in his community. Your secret may not be safe.
DeleteWhen and where is the gala dinner with the Korean Cardinal? Will Kimchee be there? The Gala dinner with the six new guys sporting black suits and Roman collars. That's always such a good take. How much a table?
DeleteA Gala where the $$$$$ will fund these RMS seminarians trips plus their presbyters to WYD in Poland.
DeleteJoseph's dying declaration will hold up in any court. It's time the legislature lifts the statatue of limitations
ReplyDeleteAccording to Diana's website "only one has come forward" isn't one enough? Disgusting display of arrogance and ignorance. Pray for all the damaged souls.
ReplyDeleteYes, you are right on target anon at 4.15!! Please re read my post on Thomas P Doyle that I put on last night and this morning. Sorry they were not in order....computer snafu.
DeleteBut you will see the total lack of argument from May on Diana's blog. It is so obvious.
COME OUT ALL OF YOU, WE ARE CALLING YOU TO COME ON THE MEDIA AND GIVE YOUR TESTIMONY IN SUPPORT OF apuron. This seems to be working in our favor after Dakon Tenorio voiced his support for apu apuron.
ReplyDeleteCome prophets Kiko Arguello, Carmen Hernandez, Genarinni's, Pius, Adrian'na, David the Tall, trained attorney, Diana(May Llanes), Mr A.T. and all NeoCats who still would sware that tony could not have done such malice or harm to charming little boys who would sleep over with him during the seventies and eighties.
Esta...uno, dos, ma mamaila i pumalo otros los victims. So please help us okay as we anxiously awaits the front page of Sunday's UMATUNA. HELP US FLUSH OUT tony's VICTIMS AS WE CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR THEM.
Esta...la chadik!
Thank you Doris Concepcion. May God’s blessings be with you and may the Holy Spirit continue to strengthen you with the fortitude you received to overcome what no doubt, was extremely painful and difficult for you as a mother to bare in public what your child kept to himself for so many years, but needed to reveal to you in order for him to be able to go in peace.
ReplyDeletePlease know that the Catholic faithful are with you in prayers and love, fully supporting and backing you -- for the courageous good you did not only for your son but for all the other victims that have yet to come forward. May the soul of Joseph A. Quinata rest in peace; and may the Holy Spirit guide other victims as well, bolstering their courage to come forward in order to begin their own healing.
Pie Jesu from Requiem by Gabriel Faure
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6ePmrZDTfw
Pie Jesu Domine,
dona eis requiem,
requiem sempiternam.
Merciful Lord Jesus,
grant them rest,
rest everlasting.
What a beautiful piece. Thank you Andrew, for posting this particular rendition of pureness and innocence -- the childhood qualities and experiences which Apuron robbed these young altar boys of 40 and 50 years ago!
DeleteA little off subject. Does anyone know where Fr Pablo went with his US green card? He is the one who was rector while these 6 candidates were 'studying'. Now new rector who was not at the RMS r turns around to push them ahead?
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of the six (6) candidates that underwent the Admissio ad Ordines on Friday, May 20, 2016 at the Redemptoris Mater Seminary of Guam's chapel in Yona. Has anyone ever questioned how the original number of four (4) candidates listed on May 17 in the Umatuna.org all of a sudden became six (6) candidates on May 20?
Deletehttp://umatuna.org/featured/four-seminarians-set-for-diaconal-ordination-on-june-4/
Is the NEO Cult Ordination to Deacon still on schedule to take place this Saturday, June 4th as stated on the original posting?
I think I read four candidates. How did it become six?
DeleteUS State Department issues travel warning for Europe. WYD is one of the concerns . Polish security will be strained. Keep impt documents in your hotel safe. Careful out there, Tony. Where u at?
ReplyDelete