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Tuesday, July 12, 2016

Neocatechumenal Leader Met by Angry Mob

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So the Neocats are being booed in Guam? God bless our brothers and sisters in Guam, then.

Back in June of 2008, we ran the following report on the insufferabel Neo-Catechumenal Way. Obviously, not much has changed, except the Neocats are stronger than ever under the funhouse Church that Francis is building. Please, God, raise up a saint among us to cast out the heretics, pagans and infidels who have taken control of your Church.

The Remnant, June 15, 2008: “The Catholic lay Neocatechumenal Way has received the Church's final approval of its statutes; the degree of recognition will be presented to the group's founders Friday,” reports Zenit (June 12, 2008). “Cardinal Stanislaw Rylko, president of the Pontifical Council for the Laity, will give Kiko Argüello and Carmen Hernández the decree expressing the Church's approval of the groups organization and charism”:

According to the founders, the Way is a concrete response to numerous pastoral intuitions of Vatican II, such as, the rediscovery of the Easter Vigil, the laity's participation in evangelization. An example of this last principle is the novelty of sending "families on mission," in response to requests from local bishops to provide, together with a priest, an initial evangelization for those areas where the Church has not been established.

In 1990, Pope John Paul II wrote a letter acknowledging the Neo-Catechumenal Way (NCW) to Bishop Paul Josef Cordes, Vice-President of the Pontifical Council for the Laity, in which John Paul wrote:

I too, as Bishop of Rome, have been able to verify the copious fruits of personal conversion and fruitful missionary impulse in the many meetings I have had in the Roman parishes with the Neocatechumenal Communities and their Pastors, as well as in my apostolic journeys in many nations..... I acknowledge the Neocatechumenal Way as an itinerary of Catholic formation, valid for our society and for our times.

In 2002, the NCW Statutes were given a five-year provisional (“ad experimentum”) approval, pending changes in the manner in which NCW communities celebrated their Eucharists. These Statutes are composed of 35 articles, expressing the nature of “The Way” (as it is called by its members), the “Spiritual Goods” resulting from it, and the manner in which “The Way” operates.

 One overriding idea comes across throughout the NCW Schema for Catechists (a training manual for NCW catechists). Namely, from the time of Constantine the Great up to the Second Vatican Council (a span of some 1600 years), the Catholic Church became detached from her spiritual roots, assumed a shallow, superstitious character, and came to rely on ritualism and dogmatism for their own sake. Kiko and Carmen teach their catechists that, instead of catechizing pagans, the post-Constantine Church was, in fact, herself catechized by the superstitious pagans who joined her. This primitivism of Kiko and Carmen views such things as the Traditional Latin Mass, the Sacrament of Penance, doctrines on salvation, etc. as compromised entities, puffed-up with unnecessary ritual, solemnity and dogmatism.

At this point in time, neither the Vatican nor the Holy Father can claim ignorance as to the true nature of the Neo-Catechumenal Way, for their teachings are not as secretive as they once were. The warped view of Church history, doctrine and the Sacraments presented by Kiko and Carmen can in no way be reconciled with sound theology or Catholic teaching. It is no wonder that Kiko and Carmen have such admiration for Martin Luther.

The announcement of the Holy See’s approval of the Statutes of the NCW comes right on the heels of a report that four bishops from Japan traveled to Rome to resolve a "serious problem" with the methods of the Neo-Catechumenal Way and its seminary in a Japanese diocese. An April 30, 2008 report by CathNews included the following quotation from one of these bishops, Archbishop Peter Takeo Okada of Tokyo, President of the Bishops' Conference:

In the small Catholic Church of Japan, the powerful sect-like activity of [Neo-Catechumenal] Way members is divisive and confrontational. It has caused sharp painful division and strife within the Church. We are struggling with all our strength to overcome the problem but feel that if a solution is to be found, the consideration of Your Holiness for the Church in Japan will be of the utmost importance and direly needed.

This is nothing new. In 1996, the Right Reverend Mervyn Alexander, Bishop of Clifton (UK), established a panel of inquiry to explore claims made by parishioners in at least three parishes that their parishes had been harmed by the activities of the Neo-Catechumenal Way. Not only did this panel conclude that the NCW failed to bring “new vitality to animate these parishes,” but it also noted that the presence of the NCW communities “conveys a sign of strong disunity.”

Unfortunately, the main focus of concern regarding the NCW and its official status within the Church has been purely liturgical. A December 1, 2005 letter of Cardinal Francis Arinze, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, to Kiko, Carmen and Fr. Mario Pezzi, cites such NCW practices as the giving of “admonitions” before Scripture readings, the kiss of peace, the manner of receiving Communion, etc. But what of doctrine? What of error? What of heretical teachings?

For the same Pope to free the Traditional Latin Mass from the shackles of the “indult” mentality AND approve the Statutes of the Neocatechumenal Way can only be regarded as a complete contradiction. Tradition and Novelty simply can not be treated as equals. Why is the Vatican pretending that serious criticisms of “The Way” – by those in the know – do not exist? No, we are not out of the woods yet, by any stretch of the imagination.


17 comments:

  1. What a Surprise to All That the Natives on Guam Are Really Outspoken! Those Chamorro Natives Are Not As Stupid As Assumed by the Leaders of the NEOs, were they! When the incident happened at the airport, the people who were there were labeled as rioters and rude! Well, What the Hell Did You Expect! The arrival of the NEO Leaders was kept secret - well not really since the True Katolikus were there with their signs of "GO HOME"! These High Mighty and Cheating Foreigners came to our shores, invaded and changed our Catholic Churches, and stole millions from the limosas that is collected every Sunday. Build Your Own Churches and Collect Your Own Monies! Leave Our Catholic Churches Alone! I Am So Proud of My Fellow True Katolikus! Continue the Fight to Get Rid of These Unwelcomed NEOs and DeFrock that so called archbishop apuron!

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  2. I find it incredible that members of the JW Nation seem to know better than the Pope and the Bishops in communion with him.

    "So then, for the honor of him who loves us, it is proper to obey without hypocrisy; for a man does not so much deceive the bishop he can see as try to deceive the bishop he cannot see. In such a case he has to reckon not with a man, but with God who knows the secrets of the heart. We should really live as Christians and not merely have the name; for many invoke the bishop's name but do everything apart from him. Such men, I think, do not have a good conscience, for they do not assemble lawfully as commanded [...] Be obedient to your bishop and to one another, as Jesus Christ was in the flesh to the Father, and the apostles to Christ and to the Father and to the Spirit, so that there may be unity in flesh and spirit" (From a letter to the Magnesians by St. Ignatius of Antioch, bishop and martyr).

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    1. I find it incredible that Popes and bishops have allowed the abominations in the Church to continue. The Neocatechumenal Way is one of them. This is an indictment of the Church leadership, NOT the faithful!

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    2. And what of all the heretics back then at the time of St Ignatius who were dividing the Church: the gnostics, the docetists, and all the others? Healing and obedience to them? How about those bishops who supported their heresy, or even authored it? How about all the bishops who became Arians and persecuted those who were faithful?

      Let's get this straight: St Athanasius, St Maximus the Confessor, and all the rest are saints because they RESISTED their heretic bishops and proclaimed the Gospel of Jesus Christ and His Apostles in its purity.

      I'll tell you like I tell Diana: if you don't know what you're talking about, then ask, or read a book. Otherwise, please shut it. You're making the world a little bit stupider with every dumb misplaced Diana quote you drop.

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    3. First of all, the quote doesn't come from Diana, but from St. Ignatius' letter to the Magnesians. As an educated person, I don't believe I posted a "dumb, misplaced" quote. The point of the post is to let Rome and other readers know that there are certain members of the Church who think they know better than the Pope and the Bishops in communion with him. Such an attitude is not reflective of what it means to be a Catholic.

      St. Ignatius's words are addressed to all in the Church, and I have posted his words only as a reminder and for personal reflection. Considering it a "dumb misplaced Diana quote" along with your other arguments\questions is simply fallacious. My intent here was not to argue with anyone, but simply to offer a reflection from an Apostolic Father for all to reflect and pray. I don't see any harm or anything stupid in doing this, rather, it's a help for our spiritual nourishment and a suggestion in order to achieve reconciliation, peace, and unity. Let's end this senseless division and renew the Church, in the words of St. Paul, through a daily circumcision of the heart. And, let us love one another intensely from the heart. Love, indeed, covers a multitude of sins.

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    4. I say that because Diana (as I recall) has posted it previously as a rebuke of any outspokenness about anything hierarchical. If my curtness was misplaced, I do apologize.

      St Ignatius' words are additionally poignant, as I'm sure you already agree, in that he wrote his letter while on his way to Rome to be eaten by lions--a fate he was quite aware of. His letters were to churches under siege, if you will, and are encouragement to us all to be faithful to Christ and His Church always. Thus, when used as a justification to actually prevent that fidelity or prevent reform in an already deformed church, I take issue. But your point is certainly well taken.

      One small point: all senseless division must be ended. But how can a division be ended when its source is still dividing? For marriage counselling to work, rather than just talking about what they share in common, they must work through the differences and not dismiss the very real injuries. Then, once the source of the injuries is at the very least restricted, the divisions can be healed and all move on in the fullness of the bond of love, with all forgiven. Just a thought.

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    6. Apology accepted. Indeed, injuries cannot be ignored, and people have different opinions as to what is/are the source/s of the division. I hope our discussion and suggestions here become a reality.

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    7. I wholeheartedly agree. God love you.

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  3. The world needs MORE and MORE TIM ROHR--@Athelstane 5 days ago

    Wow. They seem pretty riled up there on Guam.
    But maybe that's what we needed in 1965-1970: More riled up protests of the faithful.

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  4. sorry, but the words "funhouse Church that Francis is bullding" automatically made this article lose credibility to me.

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    1. You cannot dismiss the validity of the information in this article regarding the adverse impact of the NCW on our Mother Church.

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    2. He's venting his frustration that so much in the Church is a free-for-all. It's just his opinion. You can dismiss him if you like, of course. Like anything, it's food for thought.

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    3. Yes, there is some danger in posting this given that most still think that Francis is above it all. He's not. The church under Francis has turned into a riot, as evidenced by him sending us Hon.

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  5. Guam should be considered a model for other locals with Neocats intrusion. The only way to rid ourselves of this pest is to flush them out. This can only happen by an active push back from the Laity. JW has been God sent to show what is achievable by the Laity speaking out and by demanding that they build their own churches.

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  6. It's like the Irish sex abuse scandal among the Christian Brothers in their schools. It was terrible, but so many bishops let it go. When you protested, you were told you were disobedient, scandalizing, and anti-Catholic. The laity HAD to do the work, and by then heads started rolling. If most of the bishops were true to Christ like they pretended to be, we wouldn't be in nearly the mess we're in. We should be evangelizing the nations, not fighting off heresy at every turn.

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  7. "Namely, from the time of Constantine the Great up to the Second Vatican Council (a span of some 1600 years), the Catholic Church became detached from her spiritual roots, assumed a shallow, superstitious character, and came to rely on ritualism and dogmatism for their own sake."

    Herein lies the "heretical" theology of Kiko & Carmen!

    This is "heretical" in of itself for it denies the validity of Christ's Bride and presupposes that which goes against the Traditions and teachings of the Father's of the Church. Kiko's conclusions make a mockery of 1600 years of Church history.

    "This primitivism of Kiko and Carmen, views such things as the Traditional Latin Mass, the Sacrament of Penance, doctrines on salvation, etc. as compromised entities, puffed-up with unnecessary ritual, solemnity and dogmatism."

    GET OUT of the Roman Catholic Church! Take your teachings and start another protestant sect! (35,000 and growing). I implore the Holy Father to "Purge" this heretical cult from the One, True, Holy and Apostolic Church.

    “The refusal to take sides on great moral issues is itself a decision. It is a silent acquiescence to evil. The Tragedy of our time is that those who still believe in honesty lack fire and conviction, while those who believe in dishonesty are full of passionate conviction.”
    ― Fulton J. Sheen

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