Tuesday, November 1, 2016

PDN: POPE APPOINTS NEW COADJUTOR BISHOP FOR ARCHDIOCESE

Pope Francis appointed a new coadjutor archbishop on Monday for the Archdiocese of Agana who will have the right to succeed Archbishop Anthony S. Apuron, who is facing canonical trial at the Vatican over alleged sexual abuse of altar boys. CONTINUED


Note: How appropriate that we wake to this news on Apuron's birthday!


KUAM: Rome makes major announcement regarding leadership of local catholic church




My thoughts after the video




The Michigan Catholic editorial board meeting with Bishop Michael Byrnes, March 26, 2012



I like what he has to say here. And so far he sees the right man for the job. Yes, he has a background in the Charismatic movement and is currently supportive of an "evangelization" program called Alpha, both of which veer towards the same attitudes which permitted the cancerous growth of the NCW, but subscribing to some sort of a "program" appears to be standard stuff for bishops today. More on that later.

Meanwhile, here's the message. NOTHING CHANGES. And here's what I mean. We got ourselves into this horrible mess by looking the other way for decades. One thing must remain certain. WE WILL NEVER DO THAT AGAIN. It doesn't matter who is the bishop. THAT'S THE MESSAGE. The laity of Guam have been empowered. And here's the larger message. The laity have been empowered, NOT by any program, NOT by any priest or bishop, but by OURSELVES. 

We said HELL NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE. We STOOD UP when no one else would. WE went out into the streets and embraced Apuron's mutilated victims. WE pushed that law through which put up a NO RETURN sign to the abuse of the past. WE got rid of Apuron (and we will do so permanently soon). WE have forced the return of the Yona property (which will happen soon if we do not give up). WE forced Apuron's rats (Adrian and David the Villain) from their rat holes in the chancery. WE forced Hon to get rid of Pius. And WE have caused the pope to act in this new appointment.

Make no mistake. It is the people on the street Sunday after Sunday which has caused all this. This blog has provided the motivation and information, but it would have remained just a blog without results if not for the action of the laity. And we can be damn sure that this new bishop knows this.

Many of us, including myself (for about 2 days) were fooled into thinking that Rome had responded to our prayers when Apuron was removed and Hon was appointed. We almost stopped. Within days we learned the horrible truth: that Hon was not here to fix anything but to maintain the status quo until Apuron could be restored. Remember Hon's famous pronouncement back in June: "over in two weeks" he said about the protest in front of the Cathedral. 

I believe Hon is having a gradual epiphany and finally coming around. He has seen now for himself the sheer evil Pius and Apuron planted here. He has seen for himself that the neocats, especially their presbyters, do NOT respect the authority given him by the pope. He has seen for himself the complete disregard for this Church by the arch-neocats like Tricky Dick Eusebio and Jackie "the trained lawyer" Terlaje. He has seen for himself the filthy selfishness that is Cristobal. 

But he would have seen NONE of this if he was not haunted week after week by that marching line of HEL NO WE AREN'T GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE Catholics in front of the Cathedral Sunday after Sunday. And the new guy must see it too.

This revolution has never been about the original mantra of Restore, Return, and Resign. It has been about the building up and empowerment of the real Church, the people, the baptized faithful, the people in the streets who Jesus spent almost all his time on earth with.

And now to business. Once the new bishop takes over, his first test will NOT be restoring unity, but restoring the liturgy, without which there is NEVER unity. His first test is whether he will require the neocats to conform to what is permitted in their statute, or then if not, to produce what Apuron said he would find "somewhere." The supposed permission to depart, in their liturgies, from what is permitted in the statute. 

THIS has always been at the root of the division. It was Apuron's public rejection in 2006 of the pope's demand that the neocats conform their liturgy to the liturgical books which set off this volcano that has erupted and torn this diocese apart. That REJECTION remains at the root of our division because the very Sacrament of Unity has been destroyed by the man ordained and consecrated to protect it. 

It remains to be seen what sort of man this new bishop is. Like others, I am hoping for the best. But our Church is not about this or that bishop. It is about Jesus Christ. True God and True Man. 

60 comments:

  1. Here's what I like best about him so far:

    He then attended the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, earning a Bachelor of Science degree in microbiology in 1979. Until August 1981, he served as a lab assistant in the department of biological chemistry in the University of Michigan Medical School while also serving as a part-time campus minister.

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  2. Among Archbishop-designate Byrnes’s passions is participating in marathons and triathlons.

    https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Faod.box.com%2Fs%2Fabpmvpzown3r1pu28oypvoor5agxnsge

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  3. Bishop Byrnes speaking on the new evangelization:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYGcDBOQhO0

    A quote from the video: " . . . . I got out of the way . . . ." This doesn't mean what you think it means but it foreshadows some positive changes in the future. Let's continue to pray for our church and the healing we desperately need.

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  4. Rose de los Reyes (Seattle, WA)November 1, 2016 at 4:23 AM

    Based on the biography and the video I like him, too, so far. He reminds me of our retired Archbishop Brunette here in Seattle who was an excellent administrator and was in office at the height of our local child sexual abuses lawsuits. My only questions for now are Is he pro-Neo? Does he have Neo ties? Those are my concerns at the moment.

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  5. Now you believe...LOL

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  6. Diana was right then. Your guys are fucked

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    1. LOL. Ummm yes, we are "fucked." LOL. BTW, we have only begun to dismantle you. Wait for it. :)

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    2. 4:47AM, ah yes, you must be one of those who have their Facebook cover of "I Love My Archbishop ". Antonio may be stil holding the title, but you are forgetting that he has lost his magic wand and has no power. He has been temporarily stripped of his powers. We are now going to be under a new Coajutor Shepherd with ALL the power. POpe Francis just handed Archbishop Byrnes , Apuron's magic wand.

      You be good and listen, obey and don't question! Now run along. POpe Francis has spoken. Don't forget to escort Adrian to Umatac. On your way down drop Waldo at DOC.

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  7. Thanks be to God!

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  8. Like Rose (and many others, I am sure), I want to know: is he Neo or a Neo sympathizer?

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  9. Good riddence of apuRUN the hypocrite who can't even face his accusers or his flock. Such an embarrassment to the island of guam.

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  10. W O W !

    Tim, I went into aod.org website and clipped the following:

    Bishop Byrnes has assisted Archbishop Vigneron in pastoral oversight in the northeast region of the Archdiocese of Detroit, which includes parts of Macomb, St. Clair and Lapeer counties. He also has been the director of the Archdiocese of Detroit’s evangelization initiative, which this year was branded Unleash the Gospel and which entails the Archdiocesan Synod which will take place Nov. 18-20 in downtown Detroit. Prior to being a bishop, Bishop Byrnes served as vice rector at Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit and pastor of Presentation/Our Lady of Victory Parish in Detroit. He was ordained a priest for the Archdiocese of Detroit in 1996. His full biography is available here on the Archdiocese of Detroit website.

    "Archbishop Byrnes has given exemplary pastoral service in the Archdiocese of Detroit, most recently in leading us to prepare for Synod 16 as part of our efforts to Unleash the Gospel," said Detroit Archbishop Allen Vigneron. "Now God has chosen him for a challenging mission almost a half-a-world away. Pope Francis, in sending Archbishop Byrnes to Guam, has recognized that he possesses not only the talents, but above all the deep faith in Jesus Christ that make him suitable for this apostolic work. He goes with our love and our prayers."

    Bishop Byrnes will remain in Detroit until late November to help lead the Archdiocese of Detroit's first Synod since 1969 before transitioning to his new role in the Archdiocese of Agana.

    Synod 16 - Very interesting

    Also went into "themichigancatholic.org" website - very interesting

    Above related to Auxiliary Bishop Michael J. Byrnes

    Tim, how would you compare the NCW/Guam and the Synod 16 practices/teachings?

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  11. Lou and I figure that anyone who runs marathons can't be all bad!

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  12. i wonder if he's a product of that particular diocese in michigan (was it ann arbor? i don't remember exactly) that has so many priestly vocations, which they've credited to a strong devotion to Eucharistic Adoration--which to me is in stark contrast to how the ncw collects seminarians.

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  13. I'm greatly encouraged by the video. He seems strong, articulate and orthodox, and having served as a vice rector of a seminary, he knows a thing or two about that.

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    1. served as vice rector and has studied a lot!! Hope he sees to it that priests are continually studying as in an on going basis. No resting place, guys. Further study

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  14. Laypeople of Guam, congratulation! You have managed to win over the horrible attack on the Catholic Church from within resulting in spiritual genocide of the Catholics worldwide. After what we have saw and learned from the Neocatechumenal Way, demand for truthfulness, righteousness and accountability of priests becomes natural and legitimate for every traditional Catholic. We truly had enough of this fake evangelization and ecumenism based on the renouncing of Jesus Christ! It is equally unacceptable that almost anyone can create their own "charismatic movement" (or sect) within the Catholic Church, freely promote it and basically do whatever they want as long as they pretend to be dedicated to a "new evangelization" on behalf of the Catholics. I truly hope that 50 years of experimentation were enough for Vatican to understand how damaging this practice can be in terms of the root of our faith as well as the unity of the Church. The case of Guam is the most evident example of such problems to the whole Catholic world. It is time to stop with this suicidal ecclesiastical policy! There is no salvation but through Jesus Christ who abides within us and among us in the Holy Eucharist; those who are not willing to freely accept this dogma can't call themselves the Catholics and have nothing to do with the Catholic Church (unless they convert). We will pray that Monsignor Michael Jude Byrnes is aware of this fact as well. May God bless the Catholics of Guam!

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    1. Dominican Soul wrote: "There is no salvation but through Jesus Christ who abides within us and among us in the Holy Eucharist; those who are not willing to freely accept this dogma can't call themselves the Catholics and have nothing to do with the Catholic Church (unless they convert)."
      Yes, Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and there is no question that the Catholic Church is His true Church. All this talk about a "New evangelization" has to be clarified so that no particular movement puts itself above the rest of the laity. Better yet, do away with these movements as the members and leadership tend to be elitist. The Church must embrace ALL, the way Jesus Christ embraces ALL of us. Church leaders must set the example and set high standards for priests and religious in the area of spreading Christ's teachings. Doing this is more along the line of a new and true evangelization, not some movement or organization. We need holy priests and religious to rekindle the sacred fire of the Holy Spirit in each and every baptized Catholic. People are hungry for God, and they need education, guidance, and encouragement from within our Church (to include the laity).

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    2. Christ already laid out the plan for salvation through the Church that he founded that will be the instrument in the world until he comes again. He reminds his Apostles "He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.” Luke 10:16 Why and How do many people become convinced to follow a man named Kiko and his teachings over Christ and his Church? Unfortunately this has happened with the NCW, and their brainwashing techniques. People have to understand that there can never be anyone greater than the Son of God come to save us all, everyone else who come claiming this task is a thief and an imposter. Jesus tells us so.

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  15. Like most people I share a mixed sentiment of relief and hope.

    Yet there are some issues we must face between now and the arrival of the new
    Co-adjudicator.

    The biggest one being that he shall not take over his responsibilities until the end of November.
    Therefore he shall not be able to act on the Yoña property before the fatal date.
    Ergo, what shall Hon do? Or not?

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  16. Happy birthday Apuron!! I'd rather have you than a colonizer!!!

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    1. You can have him.

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    2. 8:00 am, Dedicated to you and Apuron.
      This refrain is sung to a Polka beat. Sing with me now!
      I don't want him, you can have him, he's too corrupt for me!
      I don't want him, you can have him, he's too corrupt for me!
      I don't want him, you can have him, he's too corrupt for me!

      How about this one? So long, farewell, auf wedersen, goodbye!
      Do you need anymore? Now if we could only get Apuron's voice and songs out of 90.9 maybe I would begin to listen to that radio station again. BTW 8:00 AM, have a nice day! Mine is starting off so great! Toodaloo!

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    3. Yes, follow him all the way to hell, apparently Anon @ 8:00, between you, Judymae Quitugua and Rick Perez you can all get together with local boy Tony, hold hands and sing kumbaya, and go tell it on the mountain.

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    4. Too funny since Apuron brought in the colonizers of all colonizers, Pius and Kiko, who did not tolerate local Church practices! Everyone had to learn two-note flamenco dance and music. Lol

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  17. Janet B - MangilaoNovember 1, 2016 at 8:39 AM

    I don't think he's a neo. He spoke about the new evangelization and mentioned how it points to the laity but never defined it as a neo initiative.

    I've never heard a Kiko speak about the new evangelization without usurping it as their own. Let's hope Rome sends us a neutral bishop who can continue what Hon had finally realized as necessary.

    I'm only concerned with the term coadjutor. It means that Apurun still remains archbishop of Agana. Even if only in title, with absolutely no authority, as long as Apurun holds the title the Kiko-nuts will continue to worship their foul leader and the evil hierarchy.

    As long as Apurun retains the title they will continue to disrespect anyone the Pope sends to Guam. But hopefully, the protesters' calls to defrock Apurun will be answered soon. He definitely needs to go for our Church to finally heal and move forward.

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    1. A coadjutor is used to discreetly remove a diocesan bishop who has become involved in scandal or other problems. The Pope may assign a coadjutor in order to give him time to become familiar with the diocese that he will eventually take over.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coadjutor_bishop

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  18. Mhm timmy . . . . . . ..... ;)

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    1. LOL. You know you've won when that's all they can say! LOL!

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    2. Tim,
      looks like you got his tongue, seems to imagining something thinking about you. You trying to say something Anon @8:47? or has the reality of truth slapped you speechless.. say something man..

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  19. Janet B - mangilaoNovember 1, 2016 at 8:54 AM

    Happy birthday Apuron. BTW-Rome has sent you a birthday greeting! The Holy Father has sent Guam a new bishop. But they didn't know where to send you the news, since you remain so well hidden.

    But the Jungle Nation sends the Holy Father's message, because we know you check in here often.

    Oh happy days! Oh, and, happy birthday!

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    1. The merciful Lord giving more time for Apurun to repent and apologize to his people. Happy B'day.

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  20. Marilu Diaz MartinezNovember 1, 2016 at 9:10 AM

    Tim, the local Catholic faithful are at this juncture of our Faith and of our local Church, only because of your initial courage, astuteness for authentic Catholicism and traditions and your fidelity to the Magisterium’s teachings and promulgations -- enough that you took the risks that came with being publicly vocal and proactive about what needed to be done! Thank you! We needed the eye-openers and the push out of our state of lukewarmness. Luke warm we are no longer!

    Chuck White’s steadfastness and dedication to his on-going in-depth research and diggings on the NCW’s catechetical interpretations and practices contrary to the norms in the tenets and traditions of our Catholic Faith, also motivated and inspired the faithful to continue pursuing catechetical knowledge with the purpose or goal of becoming informed Catholics. Thank you too Chuck, and all who contributed toward this growth and knowledge through your postings on Jungle Watch.

    Two words which consistently find its way into conversations and discussion among the laity and faithful concerned about and committed to the preservation and protection of our Faith Teachings are: “authentic Catholicism”. Defining and reinforcing what our Catholic tenets are and what Faith traditions and practices constitute authentic Catholicism are what I believe would once and for all address the issues causing this current division in our local Church. My hope, prayer and expectation of our new Archbishop-delegate therefore, would be his placing a priority over addressing, point blank, these specific issues which could at least, pinpoint the root of the division and then lead to discussions about how to resolve the division.

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  21. i just listened to patti arroyo's interview with archbishop byrnes. he mentioned having met with pope francis and the "cardinal prefect of the propagation of the faith"--that would be filoni. i hope that doesn't mean that he got specific marching orders (ie, to protect the ncw) that he feels obligated to obey.

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    1. Bishop Byrnes further stated that he is the Archbishop of Guam...Hopefully he is not a KIKO friendly bishop.

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  22. WOW! Fr. Adrian C., Fr. Edi, take a lesson from the Bishop Michael Bymes "I am humbled by the Holy Father’s decision to entrust the Archdiocese of Agana to my pastoral care". He wasn't a cry baby nor did he complained about his newly assignment like you two priest did.

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    1. The people of Chalan Pago are very happy with Father Carl. His Masses are more spiritual compared to Fr. Edi who often seems as if he just got off from bed or will mentioned during the offertory he is tired after performing other church functions and to excuse him if makes a mistake. I hope this new Bishop does not send Edi back to Chalan Pago. Please please don't!!

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    2. I felt very humble when Fr. Carlos invited me to sit with him and Archbishop Savio Hon Tai..., I almost choked on the titiyas, jescepedaofchalanpago

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  23. U Matuna Si Yu'os.

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  24. I hope Bishop Byrnes will be instrumental in helping to heal the Archdiocese of Agana. I must say I am am a little nervous considering the NCW presence in Detroit. In the spring of 2015, Kiko sent one of his Missio ad Gentes to Detroit. The Archdiocese of Detroit also has pastoral responsibility for the Cayman Islands a well known offshore banking and tax haven. I have to think back to Chuck's article on Giuseppe's Islands.
    http://thoughtfulcatholic.com/?page_id=43860

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  25. Just what is apuron left with after Bishop Byrnes comes to Guam. Will apuron still hold the title of Archbishop of the Archdiocese of Agana? Or will apuron truly be out of the picture? And what about hon? will hon leave Guam for good after Bishop Byrnes gets here? (Notice I address Bishop Byrnes with respect; not like the way I am addressing apuron and hon -- I don't think I have to explain).

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    1. Apuron still holds the "naked title" of Archbishop which is why we must change our signs to APURON OUT! Nothing is more important now. The good news is that Byrnes was not just appointed co-adjutor, but was also given unique authority to completely govern the diocese "without exception." This means that Apuron is certainly on his way to being finally removed. Let's help him.

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    2. Bishop Byrnes said 'I will be your shepherd" but Apuron said from plaza in Rome I am STILL your shepherd. You know what? Apuron never felt like a shepherd to me. Not once. Hmmm

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    3. Archbishop designate is very well educated man. Hopefully, he can encourage and inspire our local clergy to take time to study and prepare to really take position of responsibility for the People of God in Guam.

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    4. Will Father Jeff become Vicar General? Or will this decision be that of Archbishop Byrnes??? Where is Jeff?

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  26. Will Hon leave when Byrnes arrives?

    With his Charismatic background, Byrnes might not be as anti-Neocat as hoped for. Michigan's bishops tolerate some of the wildest and most insular Catholic Chatismatics in the US.

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    1. Hon will leave, but I don't know exactly when. Byrnes will be here for 3 weeks in December but won't move to Guam permanently till January. Exactly when Hon leaves, I don't know. But he will leave.

      We don't need him to be anti-Neocat. We just need him to demand that the Neocats conform to what is required and permitted in their Statute. Of course that in itself will destroy the Neocats because the Statute is a ruse.

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    2. 3 weeks... does this mean that Yona property is doomed forever in Gennarini's hands ?

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    3. I hope to have an update on this very soon. I understand that some positive progress has been made.

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  27. We'll see if we have news to rejoice over based on his chosen leadership for this Archdiocese. Be weary, everyone.

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    1. Yes, we certainly are "weary." Weary of being lied to and misled by Apuron, David, and Adrian and the whole mess of rats. What we need to be is "wary," or a better word, "vigilant."

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  28. I'd wager that Gennarini will be making a visit to Detroit pretty soon, if he's not there already.

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  29. I live in Rome, but my catholic hard make my to be concerned and to feel empathy for the Guam people.
    1. Bishop Byrnes makes to me a good impression. I am sure , living for three years in Rome, he was solicitated by the NCW to join or to assist the Eucarist, and he is hopefully not a fanatic follower of the NCW. He may be even against same of their heretic inventions.
    2. He lived 3 years in Rome , writing his thesis on the gregorian university
    about a text of 2Corinthians (Death and Resurrection).
    3. May be it is better he arrives after the affair of the Apuron-Gennarini rubbery is officially accepted by Guam law. and, the seminary cannot be given back to the former owner, the diocese of Agana, without a real process: Church of Guam against Apuron and Gennarini.
    Finally the medias of all the world, even Italy,(where the medias are strongly controlled by the NCW) where for the first time , the other day a big Paper, "Libero", informed on the front page about the Guam scandal. Others will follow. If Guam loses this building, the ex hotel, it will come aut, how they managed to get other buildings for the 117 "Redemptoris Mater seminaries, around all the world.
    Better Guam loses a Building of the value of 70 millions, but the NCW start to tremble in every of the 117 "Redemtoris Mater".
    What Gennarini did in Guam, was done with the full consent of Kiko Arguello, who in the last analysis is the one who, as a dictator, decides every important thing that was, could and shall happen inside the NCW.
    4. As Bishop Byrnes arrives at the end of November, I will send him my two books in italian (he knows italian well) against Kiko Arguello. They will be published, i hope, before the end of the month:
    a) "Kiko Arguello, saint or imposter?" (400 pages)
    b) "Kiko, I want to speak to you" A smaler book, response to Kikos last (hopefully) book: "Anotaciones".
    5. If one of our brothers in Guam, knows well italian and english, please wright to me about an eventual possibility to translate my books in English and to find a publisher in US. I renounce to my rights, in favor of a fond, that with my entries and donations of others, send the two books to all bishops in USA, and in italian.
    The same is actual for Spain and south america (if La Paz doesnt translate the book in spanish, I must find an other person, please answer, La Paz!)
    I never wrote a so long letter in english.
    Greetings in the Name of Mary and Jesus,

    danielalexanderlifschitz@gmail.com

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  30. I just read the comments from Lujan on KUAM. To say I am offended is a big understatement. First and foremost a Bishop was appointed by the Pope to lead the catholics of Guam. The color of his skin is irrelevant. Basically Lujan is a racist by his comments and to think I respected him as an attorney. That respect just ended today.

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    1. Yeah, Lujan, what's the big idea embarassing everyone by your intolerance? Did you want someone in your familia? Loser Lujan.

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    2. He has the right to say whatever he wants to say. I don't agree with the statement. However it does express the sentiment of many. Unfortunately the Church has so abused our trust that we must be wary of everything and everyone.

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    3. Miss Diana ...stop taking credit for the new Bishop coming to Guam and stop asserting that he is replacing only HON. And stop announcing Apuron is the ORDINARY. btw, who is the Ordinary?

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    4. A native would've only exacerbated the situation.

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  31. Yes I agree Lujan went way overboard. He should stick to layering.

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